Saturday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 9:06 AM CDT
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Welp it's back to being the laughing stock of the league again..
the Rangers are the first AL club in 45 years to manage just one run in five games.
Thank god Murph hit that home run or it would be five straight shut-outs ugghhhh
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
I think you'd be hard-pressed to call...
…a team on pace to end up with a win total in the high 80s the laughing stock of the league.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
ok laughing stock of the league ..
at the moment…is what I meant….the offense or lack/thereof is historically bad.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
The Rays lost 11 in a row
Were they the laughingstock of the league?
Come on.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
The only thing that might make us a laughing stock
is the level of offensive futility that we’ve had in the last 5 games.
What do voluntary mean?
Yeah
And even that…I don’t know. The Pirates or Royals or someone like that, as laughingstocks of the league, sure.
The Mets or Cubs, with $100+ million payrolls laying gigantic eggs? Maybe.
A team that’s been in the playoff hunt all season scoring 1 run in 5 games? Not so much.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I really agree
just saying.
Though if this keeps up we start risking becoming a punch line in the national media.
Makes all the midseason stuff of the rangers will always hit but the pitching can’t hold up look a bit stupid from them though.
What do voluntary mean?
choking laughing stock of the league
that’s for sure. even worse than the Rays, I’d say
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Sep 19, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's rediculous AJM
The macs were the laughing stock ofthe NBA and they were in the frickin finals. A collapse of historical proportions are always laughing stock eligible.
Now, do I think the Rangers are currently a laughing stock, no. I just think your reasoning, a teams record, or pace, can prohibit a team from being a laughing stock is failed logic.
by red shoe ranger on Sep 19, 2009 11:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mavs
Mobile typing fail.
by red shoe ranger on Sep 19, 2009 11:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
here's a headline...
Rangers bats comit mass suicide.
by Ryan2907 on Sep 19, 2009 9:15 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe the bats are water logged?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
we should start a petition titled --- "DON"T SIGN RUDY"
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Kevin Sherrington column
Rangers are playing playoff baseball! Given their history, that’s not a good thing.
That article is dead on
The fans showed up last night, loud and supportive and got paid back by a lack of offense. It was such a power down, i felt that sad piano music should have been playing in the background as we all exited the stadium not even wanting to stay for fireworks.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
If I hear another quote from the players saying the fans aren't supporting the team
I might break something. Kinsler needs to keep his mouth shut.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
How many quotes have there been?
One?
A week ago?
Two weeks ago?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinsler has been on BaD radio multiple times this year
talking about this. Plus Murphy said something, and so did Feldman I believe.
What’s your point?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Joey
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm aware of the Kinsler quote
He said something a little over a week ago. If he’s been on BaD radio multiple times this year bitching about the fans, then this was the first time anyone has talked about it.
The “Kinsler should quit bitching about the fans and stop sucking” meme has been beaten into the ground.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok, that's like, your opinion, man
But, you’re wrong that Kinsler on the radio wasn’t talked about before last week. I gotta run, so I’m gonna pull a Josey and let you do all the work, ha.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinsler
he hasnt exactly put it that way multiple times, but he has come off with that attitude most every time ive heard him on bad radio.
When he was in boston calling in he was talking about how he liked to play there because the fans actually understood the game, etc. Which i cant disagree with just seems somewhat wrong to say.
But as I said before, I respect his candor.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
But would you agree
that the ‘Kinsler just needs to stop sucking’ meme is still fresh and clean?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Since the All Star break:
Kinsler swings, pops to centerfield, puts his head down, jogs to first base staring at the ground….rinse and repeat.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."
by Pocket Ninja on Sep 19, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
809 OPS since the ASB
And 10 of 13 steals.
That’s not exactly the suckfest your post suggests.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
OPS is not the Best stat to quatify a quality performance
bring something more than that.
and 10 of 13 steals. did you just pck the 2 stats that work for your argument or what. those steals aren’t overly important in the overall picture either.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Its all important
Why do you think Kinsler’s been horrible? Nothing he’s done this year has shown him being anything worse than an average 2B.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Top 5
Name Team Batting Fielding Replacement Positional RAR WAR Dollars
Chase Utley Phillies 44.6 8.7 20.9 2.2 76.3 7.7 $34.4
Ben Zobrist Rays 33.7 23.0 18.1 -0.7 74.0 7.4 $33.4
Dustin Pedroia Red Sox 11.5 11.4 21.5 2.1 46.5 4.7 $21.0
Felipe Lopez - – - 10.4 6.9 20.6 2.0 39.9 4.0 $18.0
Ian Kinsler Rangers 10.6 7.4 19.3 2.0 39.3 3.9 $17.8
Read it here with much better formatting.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
His BABIP is also .050 lower thqan career too
Assuming a normalized ~.300 BABIP, he should be better next season. I’m sure all fans hope so, at least.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
BABIP is so low
not because he is unlucky but because he hits so many popups and fly balls.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
amond 2B
Kinsler has the LOWEST line drive % at 15.1%, so stop defending him
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
and the highest FB%
at 54.7% , what else do you want to bring up. I have lots more
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Kinsler is a good player.
The problem is hes not the great player we saw at the beginning of the season. And is a worse player this year than last.
What do voluntary mean?
i agree
but his approach has been very poor, and I’m sick of people defending that approach. he needs to improve or he will quickly become a Blalock offensively, but at least he will still be a good defender and can steal a few bases.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
There's not a fucking person on this board that will defend his approach
That’s not the argument that people are trying to make.
Feilder per UZR -7.3 in '08
+7.4 in ’09, so not really worse this year, at all. Did everyone expect more with the bat after his mammoth 1st half, yes, which leaves a sour taste with the way his season has progressed, but overall, he is still a top 5 player.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
*Fielding* sheesh
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
for me, I expected more
with the way he performed last year, and the first month of this year. I felt this offense went as Kinsler went, and he was extremely important to our success, and that is still the case. He needs to improve his approach, and his continuing ability to seem oblivious of the way he is performing is disconcerting.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
How about you fuck off?
I am merely presenting the evidence that he is a top 5 2nd baseman in MLB.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
getting a little upset??
i’m an talking about his approach at the plate. If you can’t see his faults, then fine keep discussing stats that involve defense. Close your eyes, and maybe you’ll wake up and it will all be just a dream.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
LD% is nice
But it doesn’t take a single thing away from what he’s done this year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=2b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2009&month=0
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=2b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2009&month=0
In case you missed it the first time
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
It should be
Use whatever metric you want. Kinsler has had a very good season. Bitch about his approach as much as you want, but it just doesn’t take away from what he’s done in 2009. Maybe in 2010, it gets to the point where his approach prevents him from having a good season with the bat. That isn’t what is being discussed here though.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Ian's first couple of months skew his stats
His stats would indicate his worth more if his numbers were consistent from month to month.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 19, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
Why is a player who puts up an 800 OPS every month more valuable than a player who puts up a 1000 OPS in April, June and August and a 600 OPS in May, July and September?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
there is something to be said for consistency
he is really bad for 3 months, really good for 2 and hurt for 1.
so he’s really good 1/3 of the year. and 2/3rds of the year not so good or injured.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Okay
If he had an 800 OPS each month for 5 months, and were injured for a month, his team would win more than if he ends up with an 800 OPS on the season but his monthly OPS for each of the 5 months he plays varied widely?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
most definitely
you impact more games that way.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Michael Young has been such a disappointment for the Rangers this season
Yeah, sure he had a 1.065 OPS in July and a .945 OPS in April, but he never hit anything near that in the other months of the season. If only he was more consistent.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
he did hit near that
2 other months were .890 and .884. He has been consistent.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
" better next season."
See Hank Blalock
Sure hope 2008 wasn’t Ian’s career year.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
i'm not talking about defense
i’m talking about offensively and WAR accounts for defense. I really like his defense, but not his approach at the plate. and an 800 ops doesn’t mean he has been amazing this year. Should I start to list stats now?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
i don't think many people expect Kinsler to
be Average. He was an all-star that was playing well and did not have the swing from the fences approach
a .250 BA and .814 OPS (which is strongly skewed by his HRs, which is a main problem with his approach, he swings for the freakin fences) aren’t what I expect out of Kinsler. I’m sorry, but I expected more. Kinsler’s slugging etc were higher last year with 18 HRs vs 29 this year. He was hitting line drives, not popups.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
He is still an AS
The point of saying he’s been average at worst is that no matter how you choose to view his 2009 season, there is no way you can say he has been worse than average.In reality, he has been much better than an average 2B, but here he is treated as if he’s no better than Joaquin Arias.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
i expect more than average.
Kinsler is held to a higher standard in my opinion. I don’t think Arias should ever have had an MLB AB this year, that is hardly the same.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Kinsler has been much better than average
People just choose to ignore that because they don’t like the way he makes outs. Instead of blaming the people that deserve the blame for the lack of offense, players like Kinsler and Byrd keep getting all the hate.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
you can't blame all the offense
on 1 or 2 players. I am merely discussing Kinslers approach at the plate, and something has to change.
who would you blame?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Davis, Blalock, Salty, Teagarden, and Hamilton
Those are the guys that didn’t perform this year as they were expected and failed to do so to such an extent that it brought the whole team down with them. Lots of factors to look at, but if you want to point the finger at specific players, this is who I look at.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
x
isn’t there only one player on this team with a BA over 300 this year?
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
those have dissappointed this year
but only 2 of those are playing per night right now. You are putting this offenses problems on 2 players.
i remember when our bench was supposed to be a strong suit, and Tag was saying anyone of these guys would be starting on another team. How does that look now? Our bench is terrible. We need another power bat in the lineup next year. We can’t count on Hamilton staying healthy all season.
sigh.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
The Ranger bench is terrible?
A bench of David Murphy, Omar Vizquel, Taylor Teagarden, and Andruw Jones (which is what the bench has been most of the year) is not terrible.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm putting the blame on the guys who have failed
AJM’s post the other day was a good one that talked about this very thing. Take a look at this. Look at the sOPS+ which is the OPS+ for that specific split. The two positions that have been below average have been 1B and C. 1B specifically has been absolutely horrible. So that is why I “blame” those players for this team’s offensive woes.
Then there’s Hamilton who was expected to be this team’s top slugger and to be producing in the heart of the lineup. Clearly, that hasn’t happened. These 5 players have combined to drag the entire offense down.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
You just said he hasn't done anything worse than be an average 2B this season
But you’re saying here he’s been much better than average
by oc on Sep 19, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
He’s 8th in the majors among 2B in VORP, which is just offense.
I think my post from earlier this week said he was either 6 or 9 runs above average for second base.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it was my fault for being unclear in that first post, but like I just said in the post you're replying too
My statement was merely saying that no matter what statistic you choose to look at, none of them have shown Kinsler to be even a point below average offensively. The reality is that he’s been much better than just average. This was simply my response to all the posts from people here where they look at Kinsler as being horrible offensive player.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Do you know of anybody who had an OPS
above .900 for a season that wasn’t a good hitter?
It’s a pretty good stat.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Kinsler doesn't have an OPS over 900
at won’t at the end of the year, so we can’t really lump Kinsler in that category can we
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Well
It is the best stat I can readily find with a post-ASB split.
I don’t appreciate being accused of cherry-picking stats, either. OPS and steals basically encapsulate a snapshot of the three main elements of offensive production — getting on base, hitting for power, and stealing bases.
What would you prefer I use?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Clearly, PU% and SFF% are all that matters
If you pop up and swing for the fences, you should be DFA’d instantly.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Nobody mentioned DFA
but should we ignore this 5 month trend? I really like Kinsler as a player, but more than anyone, Davis included, Kinslers trend and approach this year has been really disappointing,
and AJM, I understand what OPS is, maybe you’re not cherry picking, but you were being too positive for me at the moment. I like OPS, but you default to it way too much, it can be skewed by a high slugging as we saw in the case of AJ.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
SLG is very important too
OPS tends to overstate its significance by a bit but since wOBA and EQA don’t have in season splits, that’s all we can use.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
That's not the point
The players performance isn’t gonna be better if we have alot of die hard fans.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
So if these past few games are sellouts
They don’t get shutout 4 out of 5 games? Interesting….
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
No...
but you can’t exactly say BPIA in as intimidating place to play for opponents.
I agreed with your point, we lost because in key AB’s we had these 3 people at the plate.
1. A player cut by the LA Dodgers.
2. A rookie with 200 AB’s.
3. A 4th OF-er, AAAA player.
Ah, but apparently
you can overcome those deficiencies if the fans would just come to the damn game.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
And so it ends
Not with a bang, but with a pop-up.
"we’re a bunch of knee-jerking yahoos who like new and shiny things." -- FirebatM3 July 10, 2009
Safe Word
I’m trying to remember my safe word, but since I can’t, I expect this “Deliverance” style bat rape to continue.
by Mister Naxal on Sep 19, 2009 11:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Love the picture of Cruz at the top-says alot about our offense.
Posted these numbers last night: for the season 1135K/424BB. Pathetic.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Probably the most frustrating 2 weeks of being a Rangers
fan I’ve personally ever had…was so excited about the Seattle series after dominating Cleveland only to completely (and I stress the word “completely”) fall apart a couple of days later…frustrating beyond belief to see a season with such promise end like this
Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Sep 19, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions
Is it over yet?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Coping With Depression - The blaming stage...
I guess the goodwill bandwagon fans are gone (again). That was quick.
And I feel the depression too.
Getting beat by Kasmir? Ugh. It just demonstrates why I have such strong anti-Hicks feelings this year. I look at this slumping lineup right now and realize it was vulnerable all along. We relied too much on hopeful, cheap solutions – Andruw Jones, Murphy, et al. Our bargains worked for awhile, but we never addressed them correctly.
Using Blalock was strictly about money. Meanwhile, our pitching staff was awesome in 2009! In fact, our pitching we probably never be this cheap again. Back in the day, we traded Danks at a time when people thought we were “close.” And yet, this year we were close and no deals? I can’t blame JD. I can blame an owner who loves to brag about his soccer investment – as Arlington burns. Honestly, I can’t blame the players – like so many wish to do – this team hustled all year. It was a great year. One of my favorites.
I think it needs to say "HAS plummeted out of contention.".
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
At least the pitching didn't crap the bed last night
2-0 is much easier to swallow then the beat downs Oakland was putting on us.
Next Years Free Agents?
Is it too soon to talk about free agents for next season?
Do we want Figgins at 3rd, then move M-Y to DH? That would be a base stealing, uber-defensive club.
Too soon?
You have to have $$ to sign free agents.......
Yes, Padilla and Blalock are both off the books for 2010, but guys like CJ and Kinsler and others will be due for raises next year.
Much like last winter, no big free agents will be added to this roster.
Nah
Borbon could be that guy and how many base stealers do we need? Elvis is good at it too.
I don’t even want to hear how much MY would bitch if he got moved to DH.
I personally rather have MY at 3B and bring in Bradley for DH.
Young
He doesn’t even hit well enough for a CIF why would anyone want him to be a fulltime dh?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Well
This season he hit well enough to be a solid DH, but I don’t think that’s likely to continue.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Its just a matter of which is the real Michael Young
This year, or the previous 3.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Question for those who watched on tv
Were the rangers pitchers getting as squeezed as it seemed to me watching in the park?
My angle wasnt the greated but it sure looked like they werent getting many close pitches called strikes.
And on the flipside a few high and inside pitches were getting called for kazmir
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Yes
it was Dale Scott.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 19, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Scott has an egg shaped zone
But frankly, Hunter was missing “up” more than he usually would. Feliz got swings on some marginal edgers and at least one call fast and inside, but lost at least two breaking balls called inside. I don’t recall much else.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Sep 19, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not depressed at all
Before last night, my brain kept creating scenarios where the Rangers could make the post-season; if we do this and this happens or if we win those and blah blah blah
But now, a quiet peace has come over me; the full realization that, as good as the ride has been at times this season, it is over.
It’s like someone who knows the meteor is about to hit the ballpark and is resigned to their fate. They are just sitting there eating a hotdog while everyone around them panics…
Yeah, I think I’m ok…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
While it's ok to be sad about the team not making the playoffs
I really don’t get the need to lash out at so many of the players, coaches and management. Some of you act like they all wanted to lose or just aren’t trying, which is bullshit. I guarantee they are taking this harder than we are.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Sep 19, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Reminds me of that scene in Fever Pitch
Like we’re looking over at Kins, Andrus, and Young having dinner while we’re sobbing into beers.
Only the opposite, kinda.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Im just happy they have done this well
I certainly didn’t expect to even be considering playoffs this season.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Oh get the fuck out of here with that
They’ll get paid in a couple of weeks and hit the tee box. Good to know that line-up of dipshits has their golf-swings ready
by oc on Sep 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you really think...
…that we care more than the players do that the team has sucked the past several games and that the team isn’t going to make the playoffs?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Not so sure...
There are some HUGE fans out there. That said, I think most of the players do care much more than many of the fans.
I’m sure there are a couple players that don’t lose much sleep over it though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I think I spent a lot more money on this team this year
Than you, Rodney and t ball combined
by oc on Sep 19, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on how you define "this team"
I spent about $700 on tickets this year.
I bought a hat at one of the games, when I couldn’t find my other hat, and it cost about $30.
I probably spent about $100 on food and drinks and what not up there.
So, $800-850 this season.
Oh, and parking, that was $64 for the 8 games I paid for from the guy with season tickets who I get tickets from each year, plus $8 for Newberg Night. So that’s $72.
So somewhere in the neighborhood of $900.
I’m sure quite a few folks have spent more than me, but it isn’t like I spent an insubstantial amount.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I probably spent a little bit more than that.
I also don’t make nearly the money you do
i probably shouldn’t attempt to quantify my disappointment, after all it was me who spent the money.
But I can tell you that my level of disappointment with this ballclub is certainly right up there with the players.
It’s too bad I’m not playing with them. I would have stopped trying to sit on my back leg and jack the shit out of the ball at every AB months ago
by oc on Sep 19, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's possible we care more than some of the players
Remember, everyone here (not all fans, just everyone here) are DIE HARD Rangers fans. We do it for love, not money. We will always love the Rangers and only the Rangers. For some (not all) of the player, this is a job that they are paid for, and the Rangers are just the current employer in a long line of employers. On the flip side, I’m sure some of the players care as much or more than we do.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 19, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You really are 12, aren't you?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Eh give it a whlie please
If people are still complaining in 2 months fine, but during the middle of the great collapse.. meh, fair game.
And I’m not defending myself here, my disappointment has instead been shown by just not posting the past few days.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DShep on Sep 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
After being in first or second place in the division all season
Now they have to try and keep from finishing 3rd since the Mariners are hot and seem to be finishing strong, the playoffs are over, how about just trying to win a few freakin games to finish up like men rather than crying wimps, they need to have some pride, get mad and finish this thing strong, if they do that at least they can hold their heads high into the off season.
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
Nah. Lose em all
Get a better draft pick. Don’t lose your first rounder for signing a Type A free agent. I’m all about finishing 16th now.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 19, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: The last 5 or so games have been pretty embarassing....
not as embarassing as Wolf Blitzers epic fail on Celebrity Jeopardy though…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD5lbUwpbC8
I don’t know why but I figured he’d do well on there..
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
Wow
I love how they gave him $1000 to compete in Final Jeopardy. It was like giving every kid in little league a trophy.
by lildrummerboy on Sep 19, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
haha I know I felt bad for him...
You don’t know which pasta is fettucini? really Wolf?
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
Dana Delany
Benjamin Button-esque. That’s a 53-year-old woman.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Sep 19, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam
Were you a little bit into the sauce when the podcast was made?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
I was suffering from a nasty cold
Why?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't sound drunk
but you were saying things about the team and players with a style that screamed “I don’t give a shit who’s offended,” which is an approach greatly appreciated by me.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
I generally don't care too much who is offended
Now, that being said, I probably temper my comments a lot more, now that there are 25K hits per day, than I did on the blogspot blog when 100 hits was a banner day for me.
I don’t go out of my way to offend people, and I’m aware that folks in the media and within the organization read LSB.
That said, I also don’t get any perks from the club, or any particular access, so to the extent I temper my comments, it is out of a sense of propriety and just trying to be civil.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 19, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
It's pretty hard...
to take a step back and realize that this season has been a huge success when the last week has been so tough.
I’m pretty pumped up for 2010. That said, there are some big changes that need to be made and little to no $ to do it with. My suggestions :
1) Let Rudy walk
2) Deal Millwood – I realize many here may think he has no value. However a guy who will have pitched close to 200 innings by the end of the year with and ERA around 4 does have some value. It will have to be a bad contract for bad contract type deal. Like the one for Board Game that many here have suggested. The Rangers have plenty of options for the rotation next year and don’t need Millwood to be one of them imo.
3) Bring in at least one high OBP type guy. Not sure the Rangers have the $ for a guy like Bobby Abreu, Nick Johnson, or Jermaine Dye though. Again, Board Game could be an option if the Cubs will eat that salary too. It all comes down to cost.
4) Bring in another catcher or bring back Pudge, he may not have much left, but he can’t be worse than what the Rangers have got offensively from that position this year and he will bring in some fans.
5) Of course the obvious make a run at Ben Sheets fits in here somewhere.
6) Find another lefty for the ‘pen besides BGL. I can’t stomach another year of Eddie.
7) Most importantly, someone in this organization needs to get through to the players currently on the team and those that will be back next season that their approach at the plate has to change. If this doesn’t happen I fear the Rangers will be in the same position next year as they are right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Pretty much agree, SLC.
For the rest of the year, RW needs to roll with:
CF Borbon
SS the King
2b the Hardhead
RF Cruz
LF Byrd
DH Murphy
3b German(and Omar)
1b Davis
Catcher
If Murphy is in the field, one of the others is the dh. Roll with it and see what they do when they aren’t being juggled all the time.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Board Game
I relish the thought that we could get him back. Last year that dude showed the best approach at the plate of any ranger I have ever seen. He took outs personally and every at-bat was a battle. I would love to see him back and I don’t care if he is kindof crazy and doesn’t believe in dinosaurs.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Sep 19, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have to think...
that the Cubs will do pretty much anything at this point to get rid of him. Deal Millwood for Board Game straight up (including contracts).
That means the Cubs only eat 8 mil to get rid of a guy who can’t stay in the OF and has caused some controversy with the team. Plus they get a quality #3/4 starter (especially in the NL) in return. In fact, now that I think about it, I may even ask for a prospect in return on top of Board Game if I’m JD.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I'd love to see it happen
one-for-one, they pay the 8 mil difference. You get your big-time dh for 6 mil per year(if I remember the numbers correctly). A bargain after paying Hank 6 mil this year.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
I think Millwood has some value
Just blame his second half drop off on the oppressive heat in Texas. You can probably find some team that plays in a cooler climate or in a dome to trade something of value for him. If you extrapolate his 1st half numbers into a whole year, he is a top 10 pitcher in the league.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 19, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahoy thar ye mateys. September 19 is talk like a pirate day. Arrr.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
arrrr!
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Sep 19, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally forgot this
I love Talk Like a Pirate Day
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 19, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I talk like
a modern day internet downloading free stuff kind of pirate.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
This season's failure is summed up as
JUNE SWOON and SEPTEMBER SLUMP
Those two months, involving some of the worst Ranger offense in our history, leave a sour taste that can sully an otherwise very successful season. I really enjoyed most of this season, even through the frustrating lineups and approach at the plate, and I look forward to them being competitive for years to come. However, This offseason is critical. We cannot have the same approach at the plate next year, which likely means Rudy has to go. I honestly think we need to add a bat, possibly an Abreu or Dye as our DH. Trade Murphy, let Byrd walk. We can’t have them in the middle of the order any longer, and if they are here next year, most likely that is where Wash will put them.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Would ya??
Kinsler, Cruz, and one of Poveda/Main/Beaven
for
Greinke, Callaspo
Sign Omar, Abreu, and Sheets
My thoughts exactly
KC would probably demand at least two of the big 4, and I wouldn’t blame them. Cruz and Kins wouldn’t be as cheap or under club control as long as Smoak, Perez, et al
That's why they call them business sox
No
We need more offense and losing 2 of our best offensive players will kill us next season.
I understand how Rangers fans are brainwashed to think that the team always can use more elite pitching but the current need is offense. The high ceiling pitching is getting here. The high ceiling offensive players are not.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
this sucks
I’m not even sure football can make me happy today/tomorrow
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Blalock batting 5th tonight and playing 1B.
Davis batting 8th and playing 3B.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Blalock has all of 5 ab's in the past 16 days...
and now they’re batting him 5th!?!?
Not sure how I feel about this because I think he’s being set up for failure plus he’s the type that’s never had to play in a part-time, muchless buried role.
And they finally play him when the team has 5 forks in their ass!?!
Last night was put all your money on the table, this is it, we have to win all 7 games v the Angels.
So when they lose that game, doesn’t it mean you’re supposed to play the kids for the rest of the season?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Well
What kids do the Rangers have that can play 1st or 3rd?
Davis is by far the youngest player on the roster that can play either position.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
If this were the Ten Commandments movie
Josey would be Dathan, and Blalock is his golden calf.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Rnagers @ 6pm...
or…
UT v. TxTech @ 7pm
What is a fan to do?
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman Monte
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Sep 19, 2009 4:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Watch football.
Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
by SarasotaRanger on Sep 19, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be watching football
after 700 but closely monitoring the at bats of and his teammates reaction to, one Hank Fucking Blalock very closely.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Jesus
just watch the game. It’s not a conspiracy.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Sep 19, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to hate myself for doing this...
How exactly are you going to “monitor” “his teammates reaction to” Blalock? Is there a special dugout feed that you get as part of your satellite/cable package?
I’ll go out on a limb here and predict that if he gets a hit, they’ll smile and clap. If he hits a homer, they’ll high-five him as he comes back into the dugout. Edgy stuff, I know.
This is how he'll know
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
this is when dual tuners is handy
you can bounce back and forth and the dvr’s buffer lets you back up if you missed a big play
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
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