85-70
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 5:12 PM CDT
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I'm ready for this season to be over.
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Magic Number for the Angels after today:
1
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To at least tie, I mean.
2 to win outright.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Not over" "Theres still a chance"
Lulz
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
there was still a chance.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 27, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no,
there really wasn’t
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Sep 27, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ice cube and Hell come to mind
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the one bright side of that shit show
Reality check.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it feels more like 70-85 not 85-70
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I cant wait for the offseason at this point
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Sep 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To me, the season has been over since the OAK series
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been ready for a few days now.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely in the Trust Tree
of all-time dumb losses for the Rangers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could've used a couple of those 15 runs we scored last night.
Wharter
by Wharter on Sep 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We scored six and held them scoreless through 7.2
Should have won that game without a problem.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So those who are wanting Wash gone...
With whom do you replace him?
Who are the possibilities? Will we even consider firing a coach and hiring a new one when we don’t have any money to begin with?
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point, anybody.
The man is a buffoon.
Ric Renner is a giant douche.
by txhc on Sep 27, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he ran out O'Day CJ and Fx2 to hold a lead...
What WAS he thinking, sending out our most reliable arms.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Sep 28, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Valentine.
He’s a very smart man.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Choice
Bobby V would be my first choice. Also like Mike Hargrove who wants back in as a manager. I also like Tony Pena, he wasn’t ready (like Wash) when he took the Royals but I think he has learned a lot at NY.
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
by RangerEddie on Sep 27, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby V?
So he can come in here and shred some young arms?
Pass.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Sep 27, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This x 1000000
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby V.
He’s a great choice, if you don’t mind Feliz and Holland having their arms trashed by the time they are 25.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
i don’t see why people fall in love with Valentine. Some just have very short memories
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Sep 27, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well he managed the Mets more recently than the did the Rangers...
and in a recent poll of 5000 Mets fans 97% of them had a favorable opinion of him and t would like him back. They absolutely love him in Japan.
Maybe these 97% didn’t get the memo that he sucks even though he managed there more recently?
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
X
http://www.metsblog.com/2009/08/07/opinion-bobby-valentine-and-the-mets/
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even bother checking that the link was MetsBlog.
Seriously, dude. I’m a member of that blog for the soul purpose of laughing at them.
Spend five minutes there and you’ll realize why this is an indictment of Valentine.
by philkid3 on Sep 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever been to MetsBlog?
Who the hell appointed Mets fans as having a credible opinion?
by philkid3 on Sep 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just pipedreaming...
I doubt if that would happen. The Mets love him and the Nationals may be interested too…the Rangers aren’t going to pay him 4 million, they’d much rather go with someone like Wash they can get for 500K given the financial constraints.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might hire Bob V if we had someone on payroll whose only job was to regulate innings.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Sep 27, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*regulate Bob's usage of innings
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Sep 27, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Nolan could temper that..
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davey Johnson
He would be my first choice to replace Washington.
by Darrell McKown on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's like 80 years old
And has no interest in managing any more.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote for Ted Williams frozen head
Maybe he will be better the second time around.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 66
And he managed the US team in this year’s World Baseball Classic.
Also, I thought he was linked the Orioles job a couple years ago as well.
by Darrell McKown on Sep 27, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be 67 before spring training starts
And he’s basically been out of the game for 10 years.
His time has come and gone.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
How about someone who just sits there and does what he's told?
Someone with actual intelligence might be good, but I’d worry about him meddling. Get a puppett who can deliver speeches that make the players laugh and feel inspired, tell him what the rules of the bullpen are, and then pay him as little as you can.
by philkid3 on Sep 27, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the releif pitchers share a bigger part of the blame myself.
And AJM just posted the why for me below.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what happens...
…when you play a guy out of position.
It is part of the trade-off.
Maybe Ron should have thought of that and made a move to get Omar in there at 3B with a 5 run lead in the 8th.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really going to be a hilarous farce if Ron gets manager of the year
MY’s gold-glove level farce.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raffys GG was more of a farce
I think he played a total of 10 games at 1b that year.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Yes the record is much better but how much better could it of been with a great manager?
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which, for a manager I would think is a significant amount.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well this game was one of them...
and he’s butchered a few over the course of the year just like he did this one by waiting too damn long to pull people, it’s more than one or two.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
How many wins do you think this team would have right now with a really good manager?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least 3 or 4
A good manager? You mean one who time and time again didn’t leave guys out there too long to lose leads? Knew how to do a proper line up card and made defensive substitutions when necessary?
I’m not saying he doesn’t bring some good things to the table but these are crucial decisions that cost you games and have cost games this year. We’ve had this discussion about games like tonight numerous times this year.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are overestimating...
…the impact of a manager on a team’s win/loss record.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to determine the impact of in-game decisions
I think if he had filled in a “optimal” lineup card every day, that would have had more impact on our record than his in-game decisions.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his in-game decision sure were questionable today
you have a starter rolling, only at 97 pitches and you pull him out, then give 2 relievers quick hooks when they didn’t get a guy out. Then in the 9th, when Feliz was warmed up already watching to see if he would get the call to enter the game, Wash continues to let Francisco pitch, who had already given up a run and loaded the bases with 1 out. FX2 should have been out right there. I think Wash was guilty of taking guys out too early and leaving a guy in too long. He is also guilty for letting Jones bat in the 9th. That is the perfect situation for Borbon. I know Borbon hit later in the inning but there is a different mindset when there are two outs. Borbon could even lay down a bunt and possibly steal a base as a leadoff in the inning. Stupid managing cost us this game. I was at the game cheering, and I left astounded.
This game mirrors our season. We started out well, fizzled a little bit, held on near the end, then fell apart. Sianara.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Sep 27, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The multiplier effect.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Sep 27, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even if it was 2
that would be a huge deal.
by Agreen07 on Sep 28, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think with any manager most of that stuff tends to even out with the stuff they get right/get lucky on.
I think 2-3 wins is probably the biggest difference in your overall W/L a manager can make, which is why the teams record isn’t a terribly good way to judge the manager. It’s what he does or doesn’t do in significant sitatutions like today (or like Joe Maddon in the postseason last year) that can be telling.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this 2 to 3 W/L difference bit
is comical. If that stat were true every team should/would have the same mgr for 30 yrs.
I guess the Rangers only lose 3 more games had you managed them this year?
by red shoe ranger on Sep 27, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would venture a bet to say
that Mike Soscia, one of the best managers around, is a VERY big reason why the Angels win almost every year. I think people underestimate a managers influence on a game. Basically, the consensus would say that the Angels would have been this successful if Trey Hillman was running their team instead of Mike Soscia. That’s a load of BS. ….. and don’t give me that payroll BS either.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Sep 27, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw LaRussa in there
Who would have thought the Cardinals would have won the NL Central this year?
He moved an outfielder to play 2B (Shoemaker) and had only one bat in the line-up until they got Holliday from Oakland.
I’m not a fan of LaRussa, but the man knows how to win.
by T Coleman on Sep 27, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
I fully agree I’ve watched Scioscia manage many games with knowledgeable Angels fans, rarely if ever have I seen a WTF moment like we see here on a regular basis. I’m not saying he doesn’t make mistakes ….just not the mindblowing WTF did he do that for mistakes that overtake threads here.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
I’d love Scioscia. Unfortunately, of the group of managers that are actually available, no names come to mind.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Sep 28, 2009 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q.
How many “wins” better is Wash over Hillman?
Just trying to flesh out the logic behind your assertion, or reveal the fact that it is devoid of any…..
by red shoe ranger on Sep 27, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the gut only makes defensive substitutions in the 9th.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
by RA Dickey on Sep 27, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash might realize...
That when you’re up 5 runs, you can go ahead and do a defensive replacement in the 8th goddamn inning.
by venturafearsnolan on Sep 27, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C.J., O'Day and Frankie
Face 11 hitters.
Allow 4 hits, 3 walks, 2 HBP, and get 2 Ks.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bet you CJ won't be taunting the ghost of billy mays now
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 27, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
idiots
I think yall are idiots for wanting the offseason to be here. In two weeks you will be missing baseball and complaining about how you are ready for next season.
I have really enjoyed watching the rangers this season even though they haven’t been strong the past few weeks. Did you really expect this team to make it with Young and Hamilton out over the past month?
I know that I am going to watch every game from here on out and enjoy watching the development of the young Rangers.
by Blev2 on Sep 27, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, he mispelled "tool"
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
by RA Dickey on Sep 27, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
In two weeks you will be missing baseball and complaining about how you are ready for next season.
This is true. But it’s time for 2009 and it’s shennanigans to end.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes unelss we completely suck next year. then we'll want 2009 back
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 27, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like we want 2008's offense back this year.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"In two weeks you will be missing baseball and complaining about how you are ready for next season."
In next season, the Rangers will not be out of contention.
by philkid3 on Sep 27, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash you are certifiably an idiot..
not that I needed any more evidence of that.
Stupid mangagers cost you games, sorry that’s the way it is, and your bullpen management has sucked all year, with that ridiculous big easy hook of yours.
Your bully mis-management and line-ups make my head spin
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what
exactly would you have done with the bullpen this game?
by Blev2 on Sep 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of pulling FF for Feliz nothing.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly..
not let Frankie languish out there when he clearly did NOT have it.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree totally
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible Feliz wasn't fully warmed up yet
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also possible that he's gassed...
…and is throwing like shit right now.
by JDT217 on Sep 27, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone catch Barnett during the postgame on FSSW?
As much as I hate him on the radio I will at least give him credit for straying from the normal TV broadcast team script of pumping out the sunshine and lollipops. First he questioned Washington leaving Davis at third for the eighth. Then he said it has been a season of learning, perhaps even for the manager. I expected TAG to grab him by the shoulders and scream, “what are you saying!?!?! Don’t you know they’re listening!?!?!”
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Sep 27, 2009 5:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I think it comes from working with Nadel
Nadel isn’t afraid to call a turd a turd, and I would imagine some of that has rubbed off on Dave. Now, if he could just learn how to do play-by-play…
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave "Tell it like it is" Barnett?
Ala Victor “Tell it like it is” Rojas.
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 27, 2009 5:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully ...
they’ve told Daaaave he won’t be back next season thus we have him speaking with an unworried mind as the 2009 season winds down.
by shroomer on Sep 27, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay, this!
To be fair, he is much better on TV. I sorta wish Buzz would come back full time on the radio. I kinda miss his ex-player angles on things.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Sep 27, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't mind him.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Sep 27, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not ready for the offseason
but I am ready for the sale of the team.
by Blev2 on Sep 27, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember when FF used to be absolutely money?
Frank was dominant to start the season, then go hurt or sick or whatever and hasn’t been the same since.
He’s failed in some spectacular ways this year. For me the Boston game springs to mind right away.
RP performance is super hard to forecast, but I think you design next year’s bullpen based on what you think Francisco is going to be like next year.
So the questions are: is this guy okay and what are your expectations for next year?
by alon91 on Sep 27, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's fine
He had a bad day today, but so did O’Day and CJ.
Considering his health issues and some of the questionable useage Ron has put his arm through this year, I think Frankie has performed well enough overall to retain the closers job next year, but if he falters in spring training I’d expect CJ to be right in that mix too. Really I think they could both share the job and probably should, based on expected lefty/righty matchups in the late innings.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wolfpack shit the bed, repeatedly today.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
by RA Dickey on Sep 27, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 92 mph straight fastballs are really fun
I love watching them get dominated by hitters.
by Agreen07 on Sep 28, 2009 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I'm ready for this season to be over."
Didn’t you say that last week?
One of Ron’s weaknesses is his hard on for veterans. There is no reason Vizquel should not have been in the game in the 8th inning to replace CD at 3B.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 27, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to replace Davis, but to move Davis to first to replace Blalock.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what they were saying on the radio
was that Ron had left Blalock in there in case his spot came up in the bottom half of the 8th. Not even considering how pitiful Blalock is at the plate, its a freakin 5 run game! You don’t need more runs at that point. Ron has to get his best defense in the game.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Sep 27, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Washington committed a fireable offense today in the 8th and 9th.
If any other manager in any other town did what Ron Washington did, there would be loud calls for his head.
Ridiculous. I’m sick that I went out there to watch Washington murder the slim remaining playoff chances.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 27, 2009 5:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
thank you!
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try to keep an open mind
And on the positive side of critique. But just once, and maybe he did this, I’d like for Wash to say “this one’s on me, I took some chances that didn’t work out”. But a bullpen that can’t hold onto a 5-0 lead with two outs in the 8th inning trumps whatever Wash did or didn’t do.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Sep 27, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
All we truly know is that the bullpen blew it. You can’t really disagree with Wash rolling with his three best bp options in O’Day, DJ and FF. Granted, he could have brought in Neftali for FF but hey, that wasn’t a criminal mistake. Those guys should have performed but they didn’t and that happens too.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Sep 27, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on another note
I sure don’t miss julius jones
by Blev2 on Sep 27, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd miss Orange Julius
more.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Sep 27, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that joint still around?
I used to crush Orange J when they were in the illustrious Golden Triangle Mall.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Sep 27, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it's part of Dairy Queen now I think...
I always see them along with a Dairy Queen.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Sep 27, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Robert Griffin from Baylor out for the season with a partially torn ACL.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That kills Baylors season
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Sep 27, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very saddening
It looked like a team that could maybe sneak into a bowl. Well w e’re about to find out how good of a coach Briles is now I guess.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Sep 27, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile
The team he left behind looks like it could go undefeated this year.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Case Keenum is rediculous.
He looked unstoppable at times against Tech last night.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Sep 27, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word down here is Sumlin...
…is going to stick it out at UofH until Mike Sherman gets fired.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why when he coaches the Steelers?
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 28, 2009 12:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If it makes anyone feel any better
The M’s melted down today as well.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nope it doesn't make it any better.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their meltdown was due to performance
while ours was due to the incompetence of a manager. Ours hurts more.
by behindthebag on Sep 27, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
The performance of the bullpen cost us the game.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt the bullpen sucked, but I still think the loss could have been avoided
had he put Davis at 1st/Vizquel at 3rd to start the 8th and had a shorter leash on FF who looked completely out of it.
by behindthebag on Sep 27, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like every bullpen move Wash made today...
…left a lefty pitcher facing a righty hitter or a righty pitcher facing a left hitter. I just couldn’t figure it out.
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
by TedFord on Sep 27, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He do what he do.
Ric Renner is a giant douche.
by txhc on Sep 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington pitched terribly
today.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Sep 27, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say C.J., O'Day, and Frankie all sucking
had more to do with it than the manager.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think Washington totally and completely mismanaged the 8th and 9th?
Because I do. And yeah, Wilson, Frankie and (less so) O’Day were not good. But Washington simply did not put them in a position to win.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 27, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only BP move that was wrong was
Leaving FF out there too long. O’Day and Wilson got no one out that is what cost the Rangers the game.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington should have stuck with O'Day for one more batter.
But he gets way too trigger-happy.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 27, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you the one screaming on the post-game show?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Sep 27, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see the game
So I don’t know what O’Day looked like. CJ was horrible from the looks of the box score.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 27, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash made two mistakes
Should have put Vizquel in there for defense in the 8th, and should have pulled Frankie earlier in the 9th.
Neither of those moves, though, was as bad as the performance of our three key relievers.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 27, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would have happened......
Since it was a non save situation if he put Feliz in to pitch the eight and ninth….
by RonWashingtonsBadinGameDecisions on Sep 27, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would of happened
if Davis doesn’t make the error in the 8th?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 27, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron helped things along
But our top three guys blew the game today.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, RW gave us a nice solid nudge toward losing
but the bullpen has to do a better job there.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
by RA Dickey on Sep 27, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many more wins would the Rangers have had this year IF
they had a real manager?
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
by TRFAN on Sep 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much logic fail here, I knew LSB wouldn't let me down
Between this and KRLD, I’m about to piss myself from laughing so hard.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Sep 27, 2009 6:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What logic fail are you talking about specifically?
by LiamP on Sep 27, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed pretty hard at MetsBlog being proof of Bobby-V being a good manager.
No offense ment to LAMF. I just have a good history of using that blog as the pinnacle of how stupid a sports-related website can be, and it was perfectly hilarious, like a sit-com.
by philkid3 on Sep 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh I'm not offended in the slightest..
There were tons of links and articles praising Bobby Valentine and his managerial skills. That was just one of the firsts one I came across.
It’s difficult to take anyone seriously who makes a blanket statement about a teams fanbase being ignorant when they really don’t know the fans that well. Metsblog may not be the best source but as a former New Yorker I can promise you that New York sports fans are not ignorant.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 27, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are, in fact, some intelligent Mets fans places like Amazin Avenue.
That said, MetsBlog is not just “not the best.” It is, without a doubt, the single least intelligent baseball community I have ever come across on the internet.
As far as the Mets fans I’ve come across on the internet in general, they may not be the most ignorant I’ve seen in general, but they’re probably up there. At least the ones that wander on to their computers to talk about sports, I definitely don’t think of New York as the shining center of sports knowledge. I don’t find many fan bases or regions to be that bright, though, other than (like LSB or AA) isolated pockets, so it doesn’t make NYC that unique, either.
by philkid3 on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know who you've run across on the internet..
but I’ve met many Mets fans personally who are great and knowledgeable fans including my friend Kenny who is the city sports commissioner. They are just as bright and in touch with the scene as any sports fans in the country. To make a blanket statment about 5000 people that you know absolutely nothing about is silly. I’m pretty sure that just about any poll of Mets fans would come back with a pretty damn favorable rating of Valentine maybe not 97 percent but it would be up there. I lived there when he managed, watched a lot of their games and I know the fans loved him and still do and they are NOT all idiots.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 28, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington doesn't take his own defensive substitution advice...from only a week ago.
“Washington said he considered pulling Blalock in the ninth, moving Davis to first (here he has played excellent defense) and inserting Vizquel at third. "But I trust Hank," he said. "I like Chris over there at third although Vizquel is better. It was a trust thing." And would he handle it differently down the road, given what happened in the ninth? "Yes, I would," he said.
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/09/19/post-game-show-rangers-3-angels-2/
by 3hacks on Sep 27, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He did that in the ninth
Pulled Blalock, moved Davis to first, Vizquel in at third. You could argue he should have done it an inning earlier, but he didn’t fail to follow his own stated opinion/lesson learned there.
by mgb5 on Sep 27, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this is the year where he learns the 8th is just as valuable as the 9th.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by Chase Irwin on Sep 27, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It was a trust thing."
Quick, somebody email Wash with an opportunity to move 7 million dollars out of a Nigerian Bank!
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 27, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
that doesn't even make sense
how can a person manage a team yet not be able to possess logic?
by Agreen07 on Sep 28, 2009 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God.
This is the “Ranger” way to end a home stand. This will be the last home game I go to this season! (Har har)
by bruce182 on Sep 27, 2009 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I ’ m an Angels fan and was at the angels game today. I was watching the scoreboard throughout the game and pretty much thought the Rangers were on their way to sweeping the Rays. That had me very worried with the 4 game series coming up.
I was very relieved to see Tampa come back to tie and then take the game. That kind of got us off the hook because now we need to just win one game. Trust me the fans here were starting to get nervous. That must have been tough for Rangers fans today.
by CaptainCarlos on Sep 27, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We're a pretty calloused group.
But I do thank you for your concern.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Ryin A on Sep 27, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was still a longshot to catch the Angels
but it would have made the 4 game series much more interesting.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Sep 27, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for popping by
We were all curious as to the Angels fans’ thoughts about the Rangers game. We’ll be sure to pop by Halos Heavan in the future to let you know what we think of various Angels games.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Sep 27, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't think
they had it in them, but The Rangers delivered one more kick square into Ranger’s fans nuts. Ouch.
by red shoe ranger on Sep 27, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well that sucked.
I don’t feel better having ingested a decent amount of alcohol, either.
Also, that dude up there can go DIAF.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Sep 27, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My Angels and Cowboys
would really make me happy if they both won tomorrow. Cowboys can’t afford to fall behind new york too much and the angels could use a couple of days off before we play boston again. I would have liked to have seen the Rangers make it to the playoffs also because they don’t give the A.L. West any credit. I will keep an eye on the Rangers offseason, it should be intersesting.
by CaptainCarlos on Sep 27, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Spoken like a damn Ranger fan.
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should signAroldis Chapman....
So…it was pretty apparent…… to everyone…… that Frankie didn’t have anything today pretty early on right? Or was that just me….?
Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."
by Section 339 on Sep 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or sign Billy Wagner to a one-year deal and/or Jon Rauch
and have an open competition for the closer’s role.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Sep 28, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The market this winter does look to be pretty heavy on relief pitchers
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 28, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wagner is a win-win
He’ll come relatively cheap, most likely will take a one-year deal, and if he doesn’t win the role, he’ll still be a huge upgrade over Easy-Eddie.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Sep 28, 2009 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something of possible nostalgic interest
As detailed here, I unearthed an old VHS tape loaded with some cool KXTK 39 segments from the ‘99 season, some long lost SportsCenter bits (when Rich Eisen was still around and it was an entertaining show), and the final outs and resultant stadium/clubhouse bedlam from the pennant-clinching game in ’99. I’ll try to start posting some of those up on BBTiA tomorrow.
by Joey Matschulat on Sep 28, 2009 12:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yay texas
it was all about 2010 to begin with anyways right?
by Agreen07 on Sep 28, 2009 1:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPNDallas
Any early opinions?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand
how you dont pull FF a batter earlier. Frank has made it very clear that when he is bad, he is a steaming pile of shit.
Also, congatulations to the rangers for being the biggest cock teases on earth. Everytime i start to walk away they hold up a piece of candy and lure me back just to kick me in the nuts again. Why i keep coming back knowing they will just let me get the tip wet, then give me the blue balls again, i will never know.
Testicals. That is all.
by Kdavis on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Just when they...
suck you back in a little with the slightest glimmer of hope…
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Sep 28, 2009 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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