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by Adam J. Morris on Sep 6, 2009 3:25 PM CDT
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Jesus.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by Chase Irwin on Sep 6, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's the spork?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 6, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 6, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My idea
Lock Holland in a room and make him watch videos of Lester pitching….
that is exactly how Holland should approach every game as far as im concerned
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
way to suck against a crappy team, Rangers.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Sep 6, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
also, fuck that fuckin game....
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Snead has promptly looked like shit
"I tend to like young Latinos" -Jason Parks
by SaltyDawg on Sep 6, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Just give the ball to McCluster.
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 6, 2009 3:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,what a non call unsportsman like conduct.
Memphis WR let out some frustration on that CB.
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 6, 2009 3:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Snead making me look bad.
Another INT
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 6, 2009 3:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
And also BTW...
I don’t wanna turn this thread into CFB talk too, but I had this typed out in the other thread and it got locked down…
First thing… I’m an Aggie. But I’m not the typical “OMGZ Martellus Bennett and Mike Goodson! Big XII title here we come!” Aggie fan… LOL…
I too thought the Sherman hire smelled like a pile of dirty diapers when it was announced. I thought we needed someone like Briles, Patterson, or Turner Gill to come in and shake things up, break the Aggies away from standard ‘traditions’ and try to really spark something new down there immediately… They went that way with Fran and it turned sour, so it’s clear why they were nervous to do it again… At the time, the only way a Sherman hire made sense IMO was if the AD and boosters were willing to wait for him to readjust to the college game… And we all know about the patience of the Aggie fan base.. One way or the other, we need to hire a coach and give him 4 or 5 years to turn the thing around. It isn’t happening overnight. Look at Texas. The Horns were largely irrelevant under Mackowich, and Mack Brown didn’t turn them into perennial Big XII title contenders overnight. That’s what the Aggies expect, and it’s terribly out of touch with reality…
But Sherman has made some very clear strides in the short time he’s spent in College Station… That game last night was MILES ahead of anything the Aggies put together last year… Well coached, very well executed. I counted at least 10 or 12 freshmen playing EARLY in last night’s game, not just garbage snaps like at UT or Florida. They’re committing to the youth movement, and that’s EXACTLY what they needed to do… It’s pretty evident he’s starting to figure out recruiting. What’s he’s putting together off a 4-8 season is nothing to turn your nose up at… He’s hitting the trenches hard and trying to build inside out… The philosophy, I think, is something they’re coming around with. They just need the on-field production to back it up, because that’s what kids are looking at more than anything. Nobody wants to play for Baylor or Mississippi State, and that’s what Texas A&M has been the last few years…
I’m still not convinced he’s the guy, but he’s certainly a lot further along than I thought he’d be just a year into his tenure…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But give me Briles. I love the Stephenville connection. A guy who can recruit small town Texas.
by Kyle Mc on Sep 6, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Art Briles is a damned good football coach...
It’s only a matter of time before Baylor becomes the stepping stone though…
Briles is a Texas dude through and through but Baylor University isn’t anybody’s dream job. Not even a small town Texas boy…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
that will be a problem…i see him leaving if he does good…
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and your vision ..
it’s too much, sometimes.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by Chase Irwin on Sep 6, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you can still go fuck yourself
glad to see you care about me enough to respond to me about something random like this
appreciate it man
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Briles because of the Rule-Sweetwater-Hamlin-Stephenville connection
But Sherman and his boys are excellent recruiters, much better than any of the naysayers thought. In fact, they’re showing that they may be the best recruiters in Texas, or darned close to it.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this better be a joke...
unless texas doesnt exist they arent the best in texas…furthermore, OU is ahead of them in texas…and maybe LSU
if you just want to look at texas schools though…it is more like this….
1. Texas
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2. Aggie
3. other schools
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your hatred of A&M is well noted
Of course the nod still goes to Mack as the top recruiter in Texas, but Sherman and his guys are darned good. Given what they’ve got to work with (mediocrity the last decade and a previous coaching staff who burned practically EVERY bridge with Texas high school coaches), they’ve done far better than a mediocre recruiting staff could do. Corey Nelson, Jarrett Fobbs, Jake Matthews, and Luke Joeckel aren’t ALL committed to Texas A&M with a mediocre recruiting staff in charge.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i hate aggie
you love them, neither of us are unbiased
you said, “they may be the best recruiters in Texas”, that is just flat out wrong and you deserve for that to be promptly corrected
aggie is showing some signs of life…but they are far from actually being alive or relevant yet
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch out though
More and more players want to play for Baylor now that they’re actually showing some signs of improvement. If I was a senior in HS, I’d choose Baylor over A&M just for the fact that I’d get ot play with Robert Griffin
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Sep 6, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just not convinced Baylor is here to stay...
They struck gold with Briles and RG3 (and my God I love me some Robert Griffin)… But Baylor is a program that only has so much upside potenital to me… I can see Texas Tech/Kansas/Missouri type success, where they’re bowling more often than not and even once in awhile really jump up and challenge the top… I just can’t ever see them perennially challenging for Big XII championships… Too many other things working against them…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully for A&M, the big time recruits don't agree with you
Griffin isn’t making that big of a difference with the elite recruits right now. A&M’s recruiting class is shaping up as a top ten class and very few of the current commits gave Baylor a look.
For all the troubles the last few years, A&M is still viewed on a much higher plane by blue chip recruits than Baylor or even Texas Tech.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a top 10 class?....sure....
IF they get a top 10 class (which they wont) it will merely be b/c of size…not talent
they currently have 7 4*s and 13 3*s…also, only 2 of those 4*s are considered high 4s
furthermore, they havent beat texas for a single recruit this year except maybe corey nelson, and that is just a maybe
also, tech and bu have also caught up to aggie a lot, but ultimately they are still a little higher…mind you that gap is closing fast and a few more years of getting smacked around and they may find themselves behind those 2
as for aggie this year, admittedly i was surprised by the game last night, but we’ll see how they do the next 2 weeks. Even more importantly though, we’ll see how they do when they play arkie and OSU back to back
cfb is a funny game at times and funny things can happen…but i still think sherman is a shitty coach and he is going to have to prove otherwise to me
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you leave out Jake Matthews who quickly eliminated Texas from consideration and focused on A&M and USC
Tech and Baylor have closed the gap and Tech especially has embarrassed us on the field as of late. But they’re still not beating A&M for recruits. Tech has pwn3d A&M the last decade thanks to superior coaching. I don’t disagree that a few more years of what we’ve seen and A&M will be at the back of the pack, but I don’t think we’re going to see more of Fran’s crap under Sherman.
Last season disappointed me, no doubt. Sherman and his OC Nolan Cromwell had a tough time adjusting to the college game. It didn’t help matters any that the depth chart had many guys who a) weren’t talented enough to be getting regular reps at that level of football or b) didn’t quite have the desire needed to help turn the program around.
A is still a work in progress. The talent level is better this year, but much of it is concentrated in true and redshirt freshmen, and they’re going to have an adjustment period. But those guys, namely the RB, WR, OL, and LBs, are studs and are going to make a big impact before it’s all said and done.
B has been corrected already, according to people in the know. This is, by and large, a group of kids who hate losing more than they love winning, and that’s a character trait first on the list for the kids Sherman is recruiting now and in the future.
I’m not going to make a whole lot of value judgments off last night because it was still a crappy team we played against. But for the first time in a long time A&M did exactly what they needed to do against an inferior opponent: beat the snot out of them on all sides of the ball. Too often in the last few years we’ve won those games, but only because we had the superior talent. That wasn’t the case last night, we just absolutely killed New Mexico. That’s not to say that we’re “back” yet, but it’s what we needed to do last night and that’s all I can ask.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody beats Texas for recruits Texas wants...
Especially not coming off 4-8 seasons with no established success under a new coach… Stop being ridiculous…
Recruits don’t and never will value Texas Tech and Baylor over Texas A&M… The Aggies will ALWAYS out-recruit those schools. And Texas will generally ALWAYS out-recruit everyone in Texas as long as Mack is there…
Baylor and Texas Tech will never be what Texas A&M has been and can be. If/when Texas A&M finds the right guy, they’re an elite college football program… Baylor and Texas Tech have found their guys, and Texas Tech is about the peak of what those programs can be, a perennial bowl team that most years will not compete for conference championships…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tough argument
i dont necessarily disagree with you, but i do think it has become more debatable over the years
money and fan base will always help aggie…location isnt doing them any favors
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think location hurts them?
They’re driving distance from Dallas, Houston, and most of Louisiana… I don’t see location as an issue at all…
I just think 2007 and 2008 were the ugly result of Coach Fran’s failed recruiting philosophies, both geographically and athletically…
Why Fran shut down TAMU recruiting in Dallas/Fort Worth, I’ll never know… And he was very much attracted to the late-rising workout warrior than kids that actually produced and show actual skill/talent on the football field…
Taking some chances with workout warriors is fine. Building recruiting classes around them isn’t.
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking about the lack of D-FW recruiting makes me want to vomit
Fran ought to be kicked in the nuts for that. Thankfully Sherman’s first act was to say “WTF?” and make DFW a priority.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
i mean this more in terms of the type of area
i think aggie will always have a bit of an uphill climb with the black players from houston and dallas
i think we can agree that Fran was terrible…period…im still sad they fired him
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean
other than Oklahoma, of course
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
by BAC on Sep 6, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas beats OU for more texas kids than OU beats texas
yes, OU occasionally beats texas, but the other happens far more often
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure there is anything funnier than the Aggie blow-hard.
Aren’t you dumbasses 1-7 (one win came at home in OT) v Leach?
You have the money, the pro coach, the recruits, the big-ass stadium but seriously, think you can stay within 21 points of Tech when you go to Lubbock this year?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aint it sad...
With the Red Raiders at an all-time high and the Aggies at an all-time low, Texas Tech still isn’t viewed nationally as a better football program than Texas A&M?
It’s alright Outlaw… You boys just beat a tough North Dakota team by 25 points at home… Enjoy that thrilling W.
by N41D on Sep 7, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure they are, actually.
by brettgardner on Sep 7, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better team right now does NOT mean better program...
by N41D on Sep 7, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas Tech currently
has the far superior football program to Texas A&M and it’s been this way for several years now.
Deal with it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...
I went to Tech, but I’m not a homer. So what exactly are you talking about?
Cause I don’t see what makes A&M a better “program” than Tech, but I’m willing to listen.
by brettgardner on Sep 7, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know any reputable national sources in the media that picked
A&M to finish ahead of Tech in the Big 12?
Everybody I saw picked the Aggies to definitively finish 6th in the Big 12 Soutn.
Ever since the great Zach Thomas took a Pick 6 to the zone (in ’95) in the waning moments to beat your ass, Tech is something like 11-2 v the Ags.
For whatever reason, since the Big 12 came into existence, Texas A&M became a bad joke and Texas Tech is head and shoulders above your underachieving joke of a football program.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, better team does NOT mean better program...
The Texas A&M program has assets available to it that Texas Tech does not and most likely will not have any time soon… It just is what it is…
Texas A&M’s problem is an entirely incompetent athletic director… Nothing else.
by N41D on Sep 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
you have assets but you’re too fucking stupid to know what to do with said assets.
We make chickensalad out of chickenshit every year and laugh our asses off at Texas A&M.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And only 2 of those 4*s are high-4s?
Pull your head out… They have 5 guys in the Top 250…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doublechecked...
It is 5 Top 250 in the most recent rankings…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was about to correct you - Nelson, Matthews, Ogbuehi, Joeckel, and Ivan Robinson
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm...
pretty much every 4* is in the top 250..a small number arent though
general consensus is 5.9 and up is considered high 4
aggie has a solid recruiting class this year, nothing more, nothing less
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are plenty 4 stars outside the Top 250...
Almost 100 actually…
Recruiting rankings are retarded anyways. Too many biases… ESPN and Rivals both weight HEAVILY to guys that are playing in the respective all-star games… Rivals puts significantly more weight on offers than anything else.
ESPN does their high school basketball rankings and doesn’t even have somebody stationed in Texas.
I’ve seen too many coaches say they could make one call and turn a guy from non-prospect to a solid 4* with Rivals to put very much weight into their rankings…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Rivals' list is notorious for having some problems
The weight put on offers is something that hurts a kid who commits early on and then tells the other schools to go away. Take, for example, Jameill Showers. He was Sherman’s #1 QB target very early in the process and he committed. Once he told all the other schools he was going to A&M and they were wasting their breath, the calls and offers stopped. Thus, his offer list is A&M, Houston, Purdue, and Baylor. Had he let the process play out longer he undoubtedly would have received more than just those four offers, but because he didn’t his Rivals rating is adversely affected.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had Showers as a high 4* in their initial rankings...
And he’s since dropped… The fact he committed early to Texas A&M hurt him. If he committed early to Texas, he wouldn’t have fallen off like he has…
The talent around him at his HS this year is gonna kill him… Going to a school largely populated by Army families makes for terrible turnover…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a lot of the rankings thing...
They weight heavily towards schools that have a history of developing talent…
Not really a fault, it’s just human nature… “Oh, Texas turns kids like this into players, so he’s gotta be a very good prospect” …
They take a TON of things into account, and it makes for very unbalanced, uneven rankings across a sample of kids…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that i agree 100% with
recruiting rankings have a whole lot of guessing in there and a whole lot of bullshit to boot
rivals…espn…whoever, none of them are perfect and they just represent something to use as a form of analysis
the issue is that it is basically the best joes like us can do since we simply cant travel all over the country to watch each kid. Even then, much of the rankings are about projectability.
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baylor should be kicked out of the Big 12,
and the Horned Frogs put in their place.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Sep 7, 2009 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of all the private schools from the old SWC nobody has had a better fate than TCU.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know you hate UT...and i hate aggie...
but cant we at least agree to revel in the joy of OUs loss?…:P
also, i cant believe aggie has an offweek in the 2nd week
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, we can certainly agree to revel in that joy
I feel bad for Bradford after his injury because I think he’s a good kid, but I don’t feel sorry for the Stooper and his program one bit.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
i dont ever like to see people get hurt…
i will say this though, this is why you go pro if you are a 1st round pick…Gresham and Bradford were insane
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
I can understand Bradford coming back… The UF game had to have left a sour taste in his mouth, and the track record for underclassman QBs coming out early isn’t very good at all…
He’s still gonna be a first round pick in April.
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll see about that
im not willing to make any guarantees about that until i see how/when he returns
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I certainly don't hate UT...
Like I said, I’m not the typical Aggie fan… I love nothing more than when the Aggies ruin a Longhorn season, but I don’t hate them…
Respect the hell outta UT for what they’ve been under Mack. Respect and hate cannot go hand-in-hand IMO…
by N41D on Sep 6, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck you man...
oh wait…nm…move along…:)
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Wilson's comments on Holland
Sure, his fastball still clocks at 93 or 94 mph at times, but his command isn’t where it should be. He has thrown 115 1/3 innings, 35 fewer than at three levels last season, but many of them have been taxing innings. At a time of the year when the Rangers need their starters to give them a chance to win, Holland has failed to do that in three straight starts.
Maybe he needs to go back to the pen.
http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/foul_territory/
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 6, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Davis - Choose your SSS from The Show
16 for 73 (.219)
12 for 45 (.267)
1 for 14 (.071)
Please, make this kid earn his job with performance in The Show instead of giving it to him. If he can’t earn it, he shouldn’t be here.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 6, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yawn
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 6, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See BuckyB's response
Team doesn’t have any good hitters anywhere. Useless to bitch about this.
by Black Francis on Sep 6, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about this one?
.203/.226/.340 (.566 OPS)
by Darrell McKown on Sep 6, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bore
clearly no better options, no use discussing
by BuckyB on Sep 6, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blalock sucks but hes better than davis
by CY Feliz on Sep 6, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he's not.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Sep 6, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis: .211/ .262/ .416
Blalock: .237/ .278/ .466
blalock > davis, right now
just because a player is younger than a vet doesn’t mean they can suck endlessly and use that they are young as an excuse when you are in a pennant race. blalock is bad and hes old but he is better than davis and right now we need to put the best player out there
by CY Feliz on Sep 6, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right now?
if you want right now, lets go post all star break. Does april really matter at this point?
CD has a poor (for a 1b) .747 ops since returning. But its a hell of a lot better than Blalock’s putrid .566 post ASB.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 7, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean't this year
And just because a player goes down to AAA and comes back doesnt mean their stats just restart for the year.
by CY Feliz on Sep 7, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you may as well use 2008.
September 2008 is as relevant as April 2009 to how he will perform in September 2009.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 7, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol no its not.
we can send down any of our hitters, they will easily hit AAA pitching, call them back up and we can say they are a new hitter but they are really just the same horrible batter.
by CY Feliz on Sep 7, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your argument here is really ignorant...
If you think CD looks the same now as he did before going down to OKC then perhaps you weren’t watching the games.
The fact that the only person who agrees with you on this is the board idiot should tell you something. Or perhaps it should just tell the rest of us something about you.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Sep 7, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of both.
Anyone with the awesome power of eyesight should be able to tell that Chris Davis is not the same player he was when he was sent down. While the results haven’t been overwhelming his approach at the plate has improved tremendously. Anyway there’s no real option but to play him, and with he and Blalock both in the lineup most nights my monesy says Davis will reel off a hot streak before Hank Blalock does.
by Black Francis on Sep 7, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
12 for 45 with 3 weak ass infield hits (and only 2 walks) makes him a different hitter?
He’s still the most disappointing player in MLB this season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he looks better but its only 2 weeks.
anybody can look good in 2 weeks. honestly. ignoring age, i’d rather have the guy who has performed better this year playing. now if we weren’t in a pennant race then i would want CD playing every game.
by CY Feliz on Sep 7, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's too bad that Blalock wasn't drafted by or acquired thru trade
by JDaniels or he’d be playing.
I’ll gladly STFU about Davis when he proves that he’s earned this job. He hasn’t done it yet.
As it is, he’s been given this job only because the GM drafted him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has nothing to do with JD’s ego. they just think CD will play better than hank down the stretch and i think the opposite
by CY Feliz on Sep 7, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock was staggering at the end because he'd played 44 games
in a row or somesuch. He was gassed and needed a break.
But when he gets two hits on Wednesday night (and you’re already down Young) and then lose Hamilton, why the hell does he sit the bench for three days in a row? And then you plug him in the 5 hole on Sunday…what the hell did they expect?
If Davis truly is better, take the fucking training wheels off and the pacifier out of his mouth and put him in the 5 hole.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis shouldn't get the extreme SSS
because his sorry ass was shipped to OKC.
That 4 for 28 steamer he left before going to OKC still stinks and hasn’t been erased.
The 3 for 44, 7 for 60 and 1 for 22 streaks along with the .260ish obp are all still very alive and well
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Apparently we’ve found the third remaining Blalock supporter on earth.
Davis, since coming back from the minors: .286/.295/.452 (after hitting .327/.418/.521 after being demoted).
Not great, but better than Blalock, who since the ASB is: .203/.226/.340
Davis turned himself around in the minors while Blalock wasted away before our eyes. There’s absolutely no reason why Blalock should still be playing over the guy who not only is probably going to give you slughtly better production right now, but also has a future with this team as well.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 7, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this year blalock is better
and see above for rest
by CY Feliz on Sep 7, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dirty little truth about Hank F & Davis spoken.
Chris Davis is the most disappointing player in the major leagues this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 7, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
could CF be TD?
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Sep 7, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He whose name shall not be spoken
…is usually a little more verbose, and plus he hasn’t been shy about coming back with a different number after his name. I don’t think they’re the same person but I guess you never know.
by Black Francis on Sep 7, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still dont get what a PS3 game has to do with anything
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Sep 6, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'm going to take a break.
There’s no real reason to watch this team play for the next week.
We were 3 back in the Wild Card (5 back in the West) a week ago, and have made up no ground.
I gave this team a lot of my free time this week. Thanks for nothing.
by oc on Sep 6, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we'll miss you
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 6, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In about four weeks, you'll have the biggest break from this team you could possibly want
I don’t get people who watch the games, get over-involved in them and then complain about wasting their time. That’s Revhalofan BS.
I know there was almost zero enjoyment to be derived from todays game, but sheesh. Try to enjoy our last month of baseball for awhile.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
by lonestarJon on Sep 6, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
3-run shot by V. Martinez over Octavio Dotel
Octavio Dotel…
6-1, Red Sox
by oc on Sep 6, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Most important offseason in history coming up
We either make decisions gearing up to become/remain contenders for a extended period. Or go the way of the Royals and suck for another decade.
The choice is yours Hicks/JD/Nolan.
Choose wisely.
by SaltyGoesYard on Sep 6, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Umm, I'm pretty sure we have a LONG way to go before we become the Royals
That’s hyperbole even for you, SGY.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Sep 6, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn I might have to subscribe to BR sometime
First time I’ve seen that stat finding tool.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi#form:2
Only lets you see #1 and then later parts of the list without being subscribed.
But even then I can see that as it stands Feliz has the lowest whip by a pitcher in over 15 innings… ever. Well, for a season.. I’d like to know what #2 is to see if he has any leeway to fall off a bit.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 6, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
others
Can actually lower it all the way down to a minimum of 5 innings and Feliz would still have the whip record, as well as K/BB. And h/9 for a minimum of 15.
If anyone has BR please run a few of these lists and share the link (you can generate a list that non-subscribers can see).
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 6, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is derek holland
one of our five best starters at this point? sure, when he’s on, he’s probably our best starter, but we aren’t in a position to let young players cut their teeth. i think his next time through the rotation needs to be skipped.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Sep 6, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at this point
the only 2 starters I trust are Hunter and Feldman. After that, its not even close.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Sep 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland is fine
His luck with Balls in play and Runners left on base has been awful all year long.
I like steak.
by Conjunction on Sep 6, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lazy Attempt at Objective Answer (100+ x/Outs)
tRA
1) Hunter 4.63
2) Feldman 4.65
3) Millwood 5.59
4) McCarty 5.63
5) Nippert 5.68
6) Holland 5.71
pRAA
1) Feldman 4.87
2) Hunter 2.84
3) Nippert -3.57
4) McCarthy -5.12
5) Holland -7.48
by philkid3 on Sep 6, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As stinky as things look at the moment,
we’re still just 3 back in the wild card. Three games can be made up very quickly if Boston hits a dry spell while Texas simultaneously gets hot. I’m gonna assume there’s some soul-searching on that plane ride to Cleveland, and maybe even some players-only speeches tomorrow in the locker room by Mikey or Omar or Pudge or Marlon. If we sweep the Tribe, the train is back on the track. Strange things like this happen all the time in baseball.
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
by TedFord on Sep 6, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't bring JD into the meeting.
The meeting is about him and his failure to make playoff-run moves.
by Clueless on Sep 6, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh?
And idiot of the day goes to….
Fuck Mike Estabrook
by Horns130 on Sep 6, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people don't understand that you can't buy with money you don't have.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Sep 6, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very fitting handle
Testicals. That is all.
by Kdavis on Sep 7, 2009 4:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
where’s Inkara and that damn picture of Rangers logo with the fork in it? Whenever the Rangers have had a couple losses like this he posts that picture and they win the next few games.
Sadly, I don’t know if it will help or not. This team just can’t get over the hump. They just can’t put together that win streak of 6 or 7 games to draw them even with the BoSox or the Halos. Time is running out and that is the only thing that can save them right now. I just wish this offense had it in them.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Sep 6, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did someone specifically raise the rec requirement to get on the list?
I know 8 recs would be on there in the past.
I’m certainly not complaining though, probably for the best.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 6, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i gave you number 10
like all the shirts…would definately buy one
by JDavidd on Sep 6, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Ben or AJM did...
to keep one of Miles’ posts off the rec list.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Sep 6, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah thats the other post i was wondering why it wasnt on the list
but i thought maybe they had the power to specifically take a post off the rec list, which would be nice =p
Looks like the limit was raised to 10. Nothing wrong with that, more people reccing things now anyway.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 6, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like 10 did it for you
free shirt for me? :)
by JDavidd on Sep 6, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why thank you =p
Unfortunately I have the little problem of not having much money so I regrettably inform you I shall not be able to send out free t-shirts. When I make my millions on my obscure rangers t-shirt empire I’ll send you 100 of them. I’ll keep you updated =)
if only.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Sep 6, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've gotta tell you, man
I really like your shirt ideas, and I want to buy the one that has Feliz-Holland on it.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Sep 6, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Olney
Anyone an ESPN Insider? Hicks should take the best offer he can get. Would MLB buy the Rangers like they did the Expos?
•Olney hears that there are now just three contenders to buy the Rangers.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 7, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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