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Wednesday a.m. Rangers things

And Texas just keeps hanging on in the playoff race...

Jeff Wilson says rookies came up big yesterday, with Julio Borbon's two home run game being one of the big surprises.

Evan Grant notes that Marlon Byrd set a team record for most hits in one day, with 7 over the course of the doubleheader.

Wilson says the defense has been a strength of the team this year.

Elvis Andrus has a new hairstyle.

And Kevin Sherrington says that the Rangers' failure to make the playoffs is the Curse of Juan Gonzalez, since they haven't done anything since trading Juan after the 1999 season.

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the Curse of Juan?

how about 37 years of no playoff series wins and only 1 playoff victory. we aren’t the Red Sox, so let’s not try to act like them and invent stupid curses.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Sep 9, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

The better story line is the education and reinventing of Tom Hicks that brought the franchise from its high point to a low point in less than 3 years but now has it poised for five years of dominance.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe ts the curse of Tom Hicks?!?!

heh

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Considering that Nellie Cruz is the baseball grandson of Gonzalez

Juan begat Coco who begat Nellie (actually, I guess Coco also led to Lee who led to Borbon! – a great grandkid) It’ll be fitting that Cruz is the most Gonzalez like player on the team and is going to lead us into the promised land.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 9, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

that was an incredibly dumb article by sherrington

waste of time

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Sep 9, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

more on Elvis' offense

I don’t know where you can sort split statistics since the ASB, but over the last month, Elvis has been the 4th most offensive production from SS. He’s behind only HanRam, Jeter, and Tulowitzski.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Sep 9, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

reply fail

I meant to post that in the subthread below.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

well Kevin

is a man of science. I wouldn’t expect simpletons like us to understand.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Sep 9, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

It keeps improving, so I'll keep pointing it out

Elvis Andrus since the ASB: .303 / .370 / .465; .834 OPS.

Also, why have an article about his haircut, without including a picture of the haircut?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I only followed the link to see the picture. Then, I had to read the article, which made me unhappy.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

No joke

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

batting 2nd

Is Ron planning to bat Elvis 2nd next year?

“He can hit the ball to the right side, he can bunt, he can hit-and-run, and he can steal bags,” manager Ron Washington said. “I’ve got him there sooner than I want him there without Michael, but he’s showing that it doesn’t matter where you put him in the lineup.”

I would prefer Andrus and Borbon share leading off depending on the pitcher. But is Ron planning to with Borbon, Andrus, MY, Hamilton at the top of the order next year?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 9, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would you be opposed to that lineup?

I like it personally. HOWEVER, the odds that MY has this type of yr again is slim and i could definitely see Washington keeping him there for far too long if he does struggle. Guess the lineup would shape up like this:

Borbon
Andrus
MY
Hamilton
Kinsler
Cruz
Davis
DH (smoak, FA, or Murphy i guess)
C

08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.

by Michael Cave on Sep 9, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, the odds are slim..

Just about as slim as this year, according to many in here. Quite frankly, I think his skills aren’t close to diminishing yet, and his approach seems solid.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ed Coffin has many times compared Young to Molitor

If that is the case, we can expect solid production for quite a while.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, do you move Young to DH next year or the year after?

Davis to 3B? Smoak to 1B?

If the infield configuration is CD at 3B and Smoak at 1B, probably have to wait until 2011 to move Young to DH, which means the Rangers will need to find a DH during the offseason, if they don’t resign Byrd (in which case Hamilton or Murphy could DH).

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why move MY to DH when

he is a better fielder than Davis?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I simply do not know how Davis' and MY's defense compare.

I guessed MY’s defense would be in decline, and it turns out there are no 3B FA to target after 2009 or 2010. So, I went with the only internal option the Rangers have.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd hate to lose Davis' picking skills at first

By the scouting accounts, Davis is a better major league first baseman right now than Smoak. Break Smoak in at DH, maybe let him play first a couple of days a week while Davis DHs. Roll with that for 2010 and then figure out what you’re going to do fielding wise in 2011.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like that idea a lot

break Smoak in at DH. Let him have a few games at first to get his feet wet. Also, keep working on CD at third. I love CD’s picking skills but his UZR over at first right now is slightly below 0.0. Does Smoak have more range?

08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.

by Michael Cave on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Molitor got better as he got older

But then, Molitor wasn’t all that great offensively in his 20s, largely because of injuries.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 9, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

well Young is having the best season of his career so far

at age 32, so…

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love Michael Young

but Paul Molitor was a much better player.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could live with that.

I would like to see Josh be the DH next year. Or at least get 50% of his ABs as a DH.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 9, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox weren't cursed, the Cubs aren't cursed and the Rangers aren't cursed.

If you consistently come up a loser you just suck. Boston stopped sucking and now it looks like the Rangers have stopped sucking as well.

by macromorgan on Sep 9, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't tell Cubbie fans that

they’ll lose their identity.

Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

by Ryin A on Sep 9, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Something to do with a goat I think? Or a cat?

Who the hell knows. One thing I DON’T like about baseball (out of almost millions of things I do like) is how superstitious everyone is. But I guess it’s to be expected when every play simultaneously hinges on the skills of the players involved and random chance.

by macromorgan on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too!

I’m definitely buying some. What a perfect way to spend my paid vacation time this year…

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Sep 9, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Birthday falls right into the ALDS,

yeah, I’m going to the playoff games.

"We mean what we say and we say what we mean." -The Purke Family

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mine is right before the ALDS starts

and just after the regular season ends. So, even if we are playing in the ALDS….. no baseball on my birthday.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by Lisa W on Sep 9, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're young, just have a multi-day birthday party...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 9, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

My birthday falls during the WS

Man I’m pumped although it will be a road game.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with getting a second mortgage to watch

Scooter throw a gem on the road during the world series.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking real hard about it

If they do make it to the WS I just might have to get a ticket and fly to the game.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Sep 9, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im in

Im actually optimistically cutting corners right now on a few things to save up the money just in case. Wouldnt be that bad right? The options would be Philly, St. Louis, Colorado, and LA. Hell id drive to St. Louis.

08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.

by Michael Cave on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it happens maybe

We can get something going for a road trip.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Sep 9, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it's on the East Coast, I'm in

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on Sep 9, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two for Tuesday

every tues. should be a DH day. two straight tuesdays. 4 wins. sweet.

by mo on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

pointless article at BtB

A nice payroll chart but no payroll discussion in the open letter to JD.

BtB

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 9, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah, it's silly
Having two young catchers on your roster (both of whom started the season with more value than they have now, thanks to you and Ron Washington) just accelerates the service clock and impedes development. I’d go with Teagarden (if no other reason than defense), but apparently you disagree: you’re playing an awful lot of Pudge recently.

Umm… yeah. JD and Washington aren’t trying to make the playoffs or anything with playing Pudge.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

JD should really hire this guy to be the GM and manager.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm disappointed in that.

The team is 2 games back in the wild card and he’s grousing about Pudge over an ineffective bat like Teagarden? And the catcher situation might have been handled differently, but I’d say it’s the uninspired hitting that is the chief cause of their values being lower. Neither Salty nor Tea has given the team a reason to say, ok this is definitely the guy.

And what is with half of an open letter to Daniels/Hart being about a player(s) not even on the team? Even if they signed Mark Prior he wouldn’t factor in even a tiny way until next season. A post with potential frustratingly unmet, much like Saltalamacchia’s bat.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Sep 9, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it was the Curse of Juan

wouldn’t bringing him back a few years later have lifted the curse?

by MikeEl on Sep 9, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

as stupid as the thought is

at least pick something that makes sense…

by MikeEl on Sep 9, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

This just in...

Wash loves Marlon Byrd.

Seriously though, Byrd has been good at the plate (even though he refuses to take a walk) and in the field. However, Marlon Byrd is not a gold glove CFer and he certainly isn’t as good as Andrus is defensively. Wash’s love for Byrd is just insane.

I’m starting to think Wash will quit if JD doesn’t bring Byrd back next season.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 9, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

OT: Iphones

Is ii worth it to spend the extra 50 bucks to get a 16 gig instead of 8?

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on Sep 9, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Confused...

I thought one was $100, then the next nicest was $200…

http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/

I’d imagine it boils down to how many apps and mp3s you want to carry on it… I’m close to getting one, too.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Sep 9, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm getting the 16 gig refurb for 100

The 8 gig is 50.

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on Sep 9, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

depends

it totally depends on the amount of music you need. The apps for the most part aren’t huge (but they will probably get bigger as they become more advanced). I have the 16 gig but I only use about 10 GB — but then I don’t have my entire music library on here mainly b/c I’m lazy.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Sep 9, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be nicer...

if they just embraced standards JUST A LITTLE and included room for a memory card upgrade.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 10, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

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