Evan Grant: Tom Hicks "dragging his feet" on Rangers sale
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 14, 2010 7:59 PM CST
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Evan Grant has an update on the ownership situation, although it boils down to, Tom Hicks is still dragging his feet and stalling the process because he doesn't want to sell, and there's not a whole lot that anyone can do to make him go much faster at this point.
Sigh.
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Fuck you Tom Hicks
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:01 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
I wish death on him
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
heh
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
ho
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Motherfucker.
I know it’s an overreaction but fuck Hicks.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
by coolaid on Jan 14, 2010 8:03 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
It's really not at this point
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Second this
Fuck Hicks!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 14, 2010 9:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The team will get sold.
It’ll all be fine. Just need something to write about.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Call me if you need help with the extraction.
or a safe-house
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
I will be greeted as a liberator
making both unnecessary.
by Black Francis on Jan 14, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Only if...
you take out Leno for me, too.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 14, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Who are the 12 disciples?
In addition to a seller who doesn’t want to sell, there are 12 investors in the purchasing group to be vetted
Has anybody seen a list of who the 12 investors are (other than Nolan and Greenberg)?
Thanks.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
nope
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
At this point
I’m not pissed anymore. I’m just bored.
At this point theres nothing about this process that will affect the team’s construction for another 6 months or so, and you know MLB isn’t gonna let Hicks keep the team. So what do we care if Hicks wants to drag his feet, so long as we’re ready to actually sign our first round pick this year?
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
baseball Jesus is not pissed?
this won’t do, we may have to demote you to baseball Rabbi
baseball jesus is tired from punishing haiti.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jan 14, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
They don’t make Jews like Jesus anymore.
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
by shroomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Jesus could make it past the 6th inning.
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
by shroomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't that demotion be to Baseball Disciple though?
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
I really hate this MOTHER FUCKER
The Rangers are on the verge of something special and he is just fucking everything up. Someone please run this cocksucker over with a large SUV.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Jan 14, 2010 8:10 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Run him over, then stop, back over him.....and then repeat several times.
God I hate Tom Hicks……
La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!
by Captain Fubar on Jan 14, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Seems pathetic,
at a certain point he has to sell. HSG is going to need cash to meet interest payments
by Randy Richardson on Jan 14, 2010 8:11 PM CST reply actions
I hope his 25,000 sq. ft. house burns to the ground
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Jan 14, 2010 8:12 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Did anyone realistically expect the process to move fast and smoothly to beging with?
I think most of us knew it would be like this, but actively and subconsciously tried to deny that possibility.
No, but ...
we really kinda believed that Hicks was going to let it go. Now, not so sure.
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
Why?
Everyone hates him. MLB doesn’t want him. His presence alone is a hindrance to this team. Why stall? He’s not going to keep the team. He should know that much.
GOD let's hope so.
Because this shit is ridiculous. NOBODY likes him, and it is painfully obvious. Hopefully if he keeps dragging his feet MLB finds some way to force him out. I hate this piece of shit.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
Name a bigger, more genuine prick on the planet, quick
I mean, Pat Robertson is all I got, and at least he’s good for a laugh
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Jan 14, 2010 8:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
x
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jan 14, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
You suck ...no you suck!
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 14, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Sheets
sorry, somebody had to do it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 14, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
AJM's mancrush Fernando Tatis might make a good 25th man
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
I don't want to be overdramatic,
but I hope nothing even remotely good ever happens to him at any point during the rest of his life…Hell is too nice of a place for him
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Jan 14, 2010 8:34 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
So who's gonna do the honors and post his phone number?
by Too Legit To quit on Jan 14, 2010 8:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Is it too much to ask for Hicks to get leprosy on his testicles
by death of the cool on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
damn i guess you can't say anything anymore without some non compos mentis running with it
I did not ask you if you have herpes I said is that a hairpiece?!?
as funny as this was...
i’m glad the visual image is now gone…
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
His creditors
need to force him to sell. They’ve postponed collecting payments so he could get the sale done. Now he’s got a buyer so they should be demanding their money. That will get things going.
Hicks is a waste of human flesh.
I can jack off on the side of the road and come up with a better than him.
Shooting him would be a waste of a bullet.
I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.
He’s not worth the insurance claim to run him down.
He wouldn’t make good shark bait.
I wouldn’t let my dogs graze on his carcass.
He’d make a buzzard puke.
Useless as tits on a boar hog.
Pond scum has more worth as a human being.
That pretty well sums up my feelings about the worthless piece of shit.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Jan 14, 2010 8:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
hey man
tits are tits
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 14, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I have nipples, can you milk me?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Great movie
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
so uncomfortable to watch
I can see myself getting into any and all of those situations.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 1:50 AM CST up reply actions
Wow, my hatred for this man has grown to embarrassing levels.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Probably won’t matter much but here is the Rangers email form…
<a href="https://secure.mlb.com/help/email.jsp?c_id=tex&primarySubject=Other&secondarySubject=None&dest=fanfeedback@rangers.mlb.com" target="new">Rangers email
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
If it were any of you
you wouldn’t want to sell your major league baseball club either.
Go Rice Owls!
THEN DONT USE IT AS COLLATERAL
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jan 14, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
Fuck Liverpool
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Fuck liverpool
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 14, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I feel bad for Liverpool fans
He’s screwed over Liverpool even worse than he did here, and it’ll probably only continue to get worse …They could realistically be in a relegation battle, especially considering some of the injuries
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Jan 14, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
maxi is a decent signing
still doesnt mean hicks hasnt pulled off a worse catastrophe at anfield than he ever did here in about 1/4 the time. but hey….
when they go broke, they’ll be Leeds but, hey…
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Hey now
Have faith! YNWA!
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
So
For lack of a better place to put it, this is my 35,000th comment on SBN.
A milestone in not having a life.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by lonestarJon on Jan 14, 2010 9:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Congrats Jon
You have had an amazing career as a poster. At your young age you caould build a record that will stand the test of time. You are the Roger Maris of your day.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Barry Bonds?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
*
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
I was hoping
for the being miserable part.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
Well, I already set the single season record
What was it, 19,951? I dunno if that can be broken, though I suppose the Rangers going to the postseason and creating extra GDT’s could make it possible.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
I really hope someone gets the chance if that is the case
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Now that I think about it, if the Rangers ever win the WS, my 2009 mark will likely fall.
Should anyway.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Question is will it be you who breaks it?
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
People that get a chuckle out of their loneliness are pussies
by oc on Jan 14, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
NIce...
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 14, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
We're rooting for 20000 this year
So keep busy. Bring the heat
lsj quest for 20k
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 14, 2010 9:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We'll see
But if I do join the AF sometime this year like I hope/plan, I doubt I’ll challenge that mark.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Good Luck my friend
"THAT WAS MY SPECIAL MONDAY MORNING TAPE, SPECIAL, FOR YOU!
It's fucking Monday afternoon, you should get out of bed earlier."
- Jack Black & John Cusack, High Fidelity
by PM Productions on Jan 14, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by lonestarJon on Jan 15, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
AF huh...
what do you want to end up doing?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 1:53 AM CST up reply actions
Where's your origin of birth lsj?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
oh....well, yeah, if you've lived there your whole life and never dug, time to get on out.
Best of luck to ya whichever way you go.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
just make sure it's camaro friendly :)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Well, I've always hated every SoCal sports team
And all things Texas have kinda intrigued me since I was a kid, so the Rangers caught my fancy in 2004 when I was looking for a team to beat the Angels in the AL West.
I kinda stuck with them as my favorite team through 2005 and 2006 (though I’m not sure why), reading the box scores in the newspapers and catching the sports ticker on the 11:00 news every night to see how they had fared, collecting season preview magazines, that sort of thing.
Then I discovered the Ranger blogosphere in winter 2006-2007, and that’s when I learned about stats beyond batting average and slugging percentage, found out I was right all along when I used to insist to my Dad that David Eckstein sucked and Tim McCarver was a crusty old fart, and just generally got hooked.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
all started with trying to stick it to the ol' man...like it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Did you make 35k legitimately
or are you roided up?
Well, Well, Well. Another I hate Hicks thread
What a novel concept. Anything to Grant’s ramble besides more conjecture? I didn’t see any.
Normally I'd agree, but it's time for that son of a bitch to pass the reins
by oc on Jan 14, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
not yet
it needs it’s own month. February 1st. All signings will be gone, we’ll need something to tie us over until ST starts…it’s perfect
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 1:54 AM CST up reply actions
Get out of this town, asshole
You’re not welcome here anymore.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
by Lord Humungus on Jan 14, 2010 9:32 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I usually jump right into the Hicks hate
but at this point, I don’t really care. At the beginning of this offseason, when we were all worried about whether we’d even sign a major league free agent or be forced to tread water and sign NRIs like last year, if you had told me we’d grab Harden, Vlad, Oliver, Colby Lewis and Khalil Greene, I’d have been ecstatic.
Sure, you can’t give Hicks any credit for that, and we’d be better off if we had looser purse strings, but I just can’t complain right now.
That said, I do wish anal fissures on that man.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jan 14, 2010 9:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I support this statement.
And would like to add an infection with Ascaris Lumbricoides.
I DARE you to google image search it. =)
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Gross Captain Doo Doo!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
"this hot dog im eating represents your team's self respect and pride"
-tom hicks
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Dollar hotdog night
Only night I can afford dinner!
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Jan 14, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
they sell $1.50 hotdogs every game in CF
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I have heard this.
But I have gone out there and I can’t find where this happens. I’m calling B.S. Where is this magical $1.50 hot dog stand?
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
Captain's corral
built into the building just a bit to the first base side of dead center field. It’s primarily intended for kids but prices there are generally lower than elsewhere in the park and there is certainly nothing stopping an adult from buying there if they want to.
Yep
It’s right next to the Grand Slam Gift Shop.
Last season, the corral had a ballpark food value deal. Hot dog, small nachos, peanuts, popcorn, and a small drink for less than 7 bucks.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Captains corral
Anytime I went by there to get cheap food it was just totally jam packed inside. I figured I would pay a little more and go to a place with a smaller line that wouldn’t give me claustrophobic feelings
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
This was another thing, the place was always packed.
But still, from what I saw of the prices they had listed on the menu when I went out there I remember them being normal or pretty close to it.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
Yeah, I figured thats where you guys were talking about.
I never went in there but I looked in there and could see the menu and prices and all that and they had normal prices listed. Personally I think the best deal is the All You Can Eat seats in the upper home run porch. Like $30 or something like that and you get a seat in the upper porch and all the chicken sandwiches, nachos, hot dogs, popcorn, peanuts, and soft drinks you want.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
Dont have that extra .50
Had to sign Khalilbot
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Huh?
Tom Hicks is still dragging his feet and stalling the process because he doesn’t want to sell?
I don’t think that’s what Grant is saying at all.
Sure, he never wanted to sell, but Grant’s closing statement is “It’s clear now it’s all about the cash.”
This is a very complicated deal, and I’m not surprised at all that they can’t close it in 30 days. I wouldn’t be surprised if this drags into February, and wouldn’t be concerned until the parties start talking negative about each other to the press, or we go another few weeks with no resolution.
$500 million transactions involving multiple investors, multiple banks, and several other parties simply take a while to sort out, and it’s foolish to think that the parties are going to cave on their negotiating position to accelerate a deal by a few weeks.
by Darrell McKown on Jan 14, 2010 11:04 PM CST reply actions
I tweaked the column last night as more information became available
The bottom line on all this remains that getting a deal done with this many people and this much debt is complicated. In a business negotiation, the only motivating factor to get both sides moving is the deadline.
Should we take
spending on Vlad and Lewis as a sign things are moving forward?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
John Morosi
has some rough #s for the Lewis contract. 2/5 with 500,000 according to a “source”.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
Sounds good
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
That's...
a decent chunk of change.
I never thought I’d see the day Colby Lewis got $5 million from the Rangers.
And yet, here we are.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 14, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
only 2.5 per year
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 14, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
2.5M more than i thought he'd ever get
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
FWIW
In that Japanese league highlight video somebody linked earlier [btw, my early entry for a Lewis nickname: Whitesnake] Colby throws a changeup that is absolute sick. Maybe if he can combine CU’s like that with some FB control and the little slider he can be pretty useful.
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
I think it's pretty clear...
that the front office saw some things that they really liked from Lewis.
This deal isn’t bad. If they get a number 4 or 5 average innings eater, it’s a good deal. Lewis has an upside that could make the deal a great one.
In the video posted today, he looked filthy.
You’re next Ben Kozlowski!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 15, 2010 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
Guess they really do think he can start in the majors, if they're giving him that.
Not really sure whether that number makes me like this acquisition more or less though. Maybe a little more.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by lonestarJon on Jan 15, 2010 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
I'd have more faith
in the scouting team than in the accountants.
Also, keep in mind that almost every contract for the Rangers has been overreported this winter (Harden at 7.5, Vlad at 7). I think we’ll see the final contract at 2/4.5 or so. Similar to what Lewis would have made had he stayed with the Carp.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
Posted this in the other thread but...
I must be missing the obvious but why did Kuroda and Kawakami and the other guys got significantly more money than Lewis?
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
Maybe unfamiliarity of hitters
and a longer history of performance. That and I think the “unique” factor is part of it too.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
T.R.
with a miniupdate on ownership. Apparently, a MLB baseball source expects it to be done tomorrow, but if it doesn’t, we might start all over.
Mostly conjecture and paraphrasing here.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
So he's definitely a starting candidate right away?
Harden, Feldman, Holland, Hunter, McCarthy
Harrison, Lewis, Feliz, CJ, Moscoso, Nippert
down the line: Hurley, Kiker, possibly Scheppers and Perez
That’s a lot of depth. And really, a lot of quality depth. The top 5 arms, if healthy, possess the makeup to give us a very strong rotation…any one of the names following could explode in a good way. And when they’re not in the rotation, they keep the bullpen stacked.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
jeez
I’d hate to see the catcher we receive in return for CJ
considering it won’t be Mauer, I would be unimpressed
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Would you trade?
Salty, Perez, Ross, and another prospect for Weiters? Would Baltimore make that trade?
they view wieters as a future cornerstone of their franchise
that makes him untradeable
Thye don't need it bad enough to deal away Wieters.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
hell no
no more catchers for anything other than cash unless they have a proven MLB track record
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
If they really gave him 2.5mm/year like is linked above, I'd think he's likely to be penciled into the rotation.
Harden and Feldman in ink.
Lewis and Hunter in pencil.
And then a whole parade of dudes fighting it out for the 5th spot (McCarthy, Harrison, Nippert, Holland, Fleas, Moscoso, etc)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"Don't let the haircut fool you. I'm exceedingly wealthy." -Bill Gates.
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2010 3:03 AM CST up reply actions
sounds pretty good
might even be a little back end heavy which would help on this year’s payroll. Seems like a pretty good deal for someone with upside, usually players don’t want to lock themselves into a second year at relatively low numbers for fear of being underpaid in year 2 if they do well in year 1, with the obvious exception of older players and journeyman types who are just happy to get the highest amount of committed dollars.
Shaking Out
I think we’ll see Harden, Feldman, Hunter, Lewis and McCarthy/Nippert with Texas…
Harrison, Holland, Feliz, Moscoso and Kiker in AAA. Holland showed last year he needs more consistency and control (placement control, not feel for pitch control.) Feliz just needs to flat out get stretched and refine the offspeed pitches and Harrison needs to get more consistent and build up strength.
I think the loser of McCarthy (if not traded) and Nippert is the long man. Mendoza might be Galarraga V.2 as far as “no room, best of luck somewhere else” and not like “bad baseball decision, latches on somewhere else and we have 2 years of ’Great Job JD.”
"…although it does kinda show how little faith they have in Cruz, whether that be the org as a whole or just our beloved, bespectacled, kool-lovin’ skipper."
by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2010 5:48 PM EST
Not a chance
Rotation of Harden, Feldman, Hunter, Holland, and McCarthy to start the year.
Lewis, Feliz, O’Day, Wilson, Frank^2, and others in the pen.
Harrison, Kiker, Hurley, Poveda, and Beavan at AAA.
going further into the system:
Kirkman, Main, Perez, Shceppers, and Gutierrez in AA
Murphy, Bleier, Font, Boscan, and Pimentel in Bakersfield (High A)
Brigham, Wieland, Tullis, Ross, and Trevor Hurley in Hickory (Low A)
Not sure about short season ball, the team probably isn’t either, though I’m sure Richard Alvarez will make an appearance and maybe others.
Unless...
Lewis looks horrible in ST I have to think he’ll be in the rotation. Like D.A.Tron said, they gave the guy 5 mil and Hunter and Holland still have options.
My guess is Harden, Feldman, Hunter, Lewis, and BGL in the rotation to start the year.
Then you have Holland, Harrison, Kiker, Moscoso, and Poveda in OKC.
Hurley is in extended ST to start the season. Feliz and Nippert are in the ’pen with the Rangers. McCarthy is dealt.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I think CJ stays in the pen
and Harrison or McCarthy get the last spot. Feliz and Holland begin the season at AAA
I think this is more likely
Though I wouldn’t be surprised if feliz broke the season with the bullpen.
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Why not?
He finished last season well and has no real trade value at the moment.
Better to give him a shot if he has a good spring.
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did he piss in your cheerios or something?
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Mr. Burns supposes the count on the box looks a bit like him...
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by thedirkatron on Jan 16, 2010 3:56 AM CST up reply actions
so it's an option game with Holland?
I just don’t see any reason not to start the year with him at least competing for a spot in the rotation – if he dominates ST, start him
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by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
No...
obviously he’s a strong option for the rotation. If he dominates in ST perhaps the Rangers will go with him. I don’t think it’s just an options game with Holland. Did he look great at times last year? Yes. Did he also struggle at times and look like he could have used a few more starts in OKC? Probably.
I think the team just sees him as a very important part of their future and they want to do what will be best for his development. If that means starting the year in the rotation, fine. If it means getting a little bit more seasoning in AAA, then that’s fine too. Again, this is just what I think the Rangers are leaning towards with the moves they have made. I don’t have anything other than my gut to back it up.
I think this team wants to go with the guys who will help them win the most now. If Holland isn’t one of those guys to start the year then he will be in OKC imo. They want to develop the young players, but not at the expense of winning. Putting Holland in the rotation to take his lumps may not be an option now. I would like for him to be the 5th starter, I just don’t think (with this move especially) that the team is 100% sold on that idea to start the season.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
well, personally I think he's taken his lumps
I see no need for him to take anymore in AAA; he’ll get more confidence perhaps by dominating there, but I think he’s got the makeup (once again my opinion) to take those lumps at the MLB level and not lose confidence. However:
I think this team wants to go with the guys who will help them win the most now. If Holland isn’t one of those guys to start the year then he will be in OKC imo.
This, I agree with. I think they’ll see who the best 3 are past Harden and Feldman in ST and roll with those 3. Then plug and play where the holes leak.
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by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said...
I’m with you. I think he’s taken his lumps as well and would be best in the rotation all year, unless he just flat out sucks and is hurting the teams chances of winning. However given his overall #‘s with the Rangers last year (and the limited amount of time he spent in OKC last year) I think the team is thinking it wouldn’t kill him to spend some more time in AAA. I could be way off base though too.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
where the hell is Neil Ramirez?
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by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
probably Hickory again
He’ll probably push Tullis to the Hickory pen, or be slotted into the Bakersfield pen (possibly in a tandem starting arrangement with Font). Just missed him….
He’s got time, and with the number of guys ahead of him…
This is an unbelievably stacked system, and we could easily lose a half dozen to injuries and failure to develop or whatever and still have a great farm system for years to come.
Compare it to say, Houston’s……
I'm so angry I just pooped.
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by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2010 3:00 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
We could throw eggs at his car
His house was published in D Magazine. And I know how to get a hold of some eggs.
That's why they call them business sox
Seriously, who here really didn't see this coming?
He’s going to do it again. He’s not going away. Just bidness as usual for Hicks.
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