Rangers sign 16 year old Colombian catcher for 1.3M
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"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 18, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
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@jorgearangure The reported $1.3m Rangers give Alfaro would be most ever for a Colombian prospect
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Wow
We need Andy or goyo to fill us in on this young lad.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Sheesh what good are you then!
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Bummer
Thanks anyways.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
No
Just what’s out there from googling around from when Philly almost signed him. Good pop times, good power projection, and raw with the bat otherwise.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 18, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Somebody's slippin...
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 18, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
So many young Latin boys...
so little time.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
This is interesting
The Phillies were reported to have signed him at this amount in December, but that wound up not being true. Late bloomer (relatively speaking) apparently.
I love A.J. Preller :)
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Doesn't this have to be a pretty strong signal
that a deal is close, or are they just chewing into their preset 2010 budget?
That's what I was thinking
Actually, I was already thinking that after they signed Lewis. Signing Vlad, Lewis, and this kid in such a short span of time makes me think they’re pretty confident a deal is going through soon.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Maybe
But how is this signing any different than Vlad or Lewis? Both of those were done during the exclusive negotiating period. Compared to the reported purchase price of the team, this only changes things by 2 thousandths of a percentage point. The scounting of this kid was a sunk cost and as long as the $1.3MM is pretty much market value, I’m sure Greenberg or MLB said “what the hell.”
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
No way MLB would say that
1.3 for an international guy who isn’t a big impact reputation would not slide by.
But as far as it being different from the other two, no, I don’t think it’s that different, aside from the fact that it’s a step further. Those moves impact the immediate future of the club in a pretty serious way, while this is more of a luxury. But it’s the same sort of general thing, spending money where Hicks might not have had the cash to do it if he were making the call, and MLB might not be willing to do if they were.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 18, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Plus, they have a Columbian Connection now
So they can work around the clock!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Thank you for commending oc
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Thank you for your support
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
i love that preview
it makes me think of that family guy when they talk about going to war in iraq.
I WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT WANTED TO GO TO WAR!
dont make chuey tear your arms off
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Cool.
Surprised that we are signing this guy while the ownership situation isn’t resolved.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
Exactly!
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
good-looking cut!
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
That's what she said.
…sorry, couldn’t resist.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 18, 2010 4:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The M's counter!
@mlbtraderumors Mariners to sign Kevin Quintanilla, a 17-year-old righty out of El Salvador. http://bit.ly/7lid0D
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
He forgot to throw
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 18, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
He actually looks more like he's passing gas in that pic.
Probably a result of the excessive eating that went right to his thighs.
M's are afraid of us
We have our own move counter move like the Yankmees and Saux have.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
I wonder if we were one of the teams in on him
Anybody know what Fesa is? I think it is a sports academy but my Spanish isn’t great.
Anyway, this is the Mariners’ third signing so they seem kind of tapped in. Of course, the last few guys from Fesa don’t look like they have panned out
i take that back
looks like Mariners did pretty well with Erasmo Ramirez (a different one), who had a good Venezuelan Summer League debut and was named Minor League Pitcher of the Year.
Love it....
I hope we are even more agressive in signing foreign players once the new ownership is in place. It is a way of sustaining your talent on the farm once your big club starts drafting so high that it is hard to grab those bluechip prospects.
If gives you a chance to be a winner while also refilling your bucket full of talent.
by death of the cool on Jan 18, 2010 4:48 PM CST reply actions
I'm very curious as to the logistics of L.A. scouting/signing
How do bidding wars occur?
How does a team claim a prospect?
Do all 30 teams become aware of a prospect through his agent or only the ones who’ve watched him pitch?
Anyone have a good link explaining this process?
Try this
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
No link
But the kid’s manager/coach is often one of the biggest drivers of these deals. There was a big stink about those guys taking money under the table to get a kid to sign. Think a Nats LA guy was implicated in that type of thing.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Jose Rijo got popped for that crap didn't he?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
yup
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 18, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Buscones
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 18, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
If Profar is rated so highly
Where would this kid be ranked in our system?
Somewhere in the 30s maybe? I would have him behind Sardinas from what little info there is out there.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 18, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Would the Rangers really give some kid 1.3 million
if they only saw him as in the 30’s? They’ve got to have him pretty high internally for that.
Go Rice Owls!
Maybe a depth issue?
They already have a few highly rated catchers.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
is it weighted at all between
projectability vs. ceiling?
In other words, does a can’t-miss prospect or a could-be-great-but-nobody-can-tell guy get rated higher?
by kevinkinsler on Jan 18, 2010 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
Well, two things
First, when he asks where would he be ranked, I’m thinking more externally than internally. And externally, just about everyone is a little hesitant to go hog wild over guys who haven’t played yet. You see an elite player in the international market like Vinicio being ranked in the teens or twenties in the Sox system (and no, it’s not appreciablly if any deeper than Texas in the 20s and 30s). Cuthbert is another elite guy in the class, and he’s in the teens in a not very deep KC system. Given that Texas is a deep system, with this guy likely figuring a bit lower than those guys (Vinicio was a two million bonus), I’d think it would follow that we’d be talking late 20’s to 30’s. We are to 25 in the community rankings, and Sardinas isn’t getting major support, and he has to figure ahead of this guy as well.
Second, I have no idea how the Rangers would view a rankings situation, and I doubt that they engage in that formally. But if we’re actually judging based on value to the organization, yes, I would think that this kid is probably higher than the thirties, even though it has not invested the time that it has in its more veteran prospects, and he’s so far away.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 18, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
I'm guessing we paid a premium for the position, eh?
Or is this guy on the same level prospectily (yeah, made up a word) as Profar and the other more expensive LA prospects?
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This is interesting...
A Reds prospects blogger has put together a ranking of all 30 teams prospect values based on John Sickels grades.
Of course it only counts the players Sickels evaluated, so it’s not a complete picture, of every farm systems, but it’s an interesting comparison of what you could probably call each teams top tier of prospects.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Flawed
Lower rated prospects must be over-valued in Wang’s dollar amounts
Indians: 1 A, 1 B+, 4 B, 4 B-, 14 C+
>
A’s: 0 A, 1 A-, 2 B+, 1 B, 7 B-, 11 C+
>
Rangers: 1 A, 2 A-, 1 B+, 2 B, 3 B-, 11 C+
I don’t get it. I don’t think there is much doubt that a GM would prefer the Rangers
Alfaro
Legit major league potential with hit tool and raw power to go along with a plus arm. People are very high on this kid. Greats signing. I love it. I can’t wait to see how he develops with professional instruction.
We shall see
I love 16 year-olds with power potential and defensive chops. I guess we will see if his hit tool develops with proper instruction. So many young kids flash plus tools in the cages only to struggle in live action. I haven’t seen Alfaro in person, so I can’t really agree or disagree with the available assessments. I’ve been calling around to get a better scouting report and so far the consensus seems to be that he has legit power potential, a great arm, feel for the position, and a swing that shows promise, but is quite raw. In other words, his price tag is the first line of the scouting report.
just curious, do you work for a particular org?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
cool....so, are you a freelance scout or something (is there suchathang?) Just do this for fun?
I’ll leave you alone after this…thanks man.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
It's Complicated
Freelance in Mexico/Fun in the States. Officially moving to Mexico in a few months where I will be a full-time evaluator of young men.
By the way, great ’stache.
Are you not worried with everything going on down
there right now?
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Some concern
Mexico City is a dangerous place, but I love it. I’ll be bouncing around the country, spending most of my time in Mexico City, Xalapa, and Puebla. The drug violence is a legit concern, but I’m not a high-value target, so unless I get caught in the middle of something unfortunate, I should be fine.
The dangerous aspects of Mexico intrigue me. When I first moved to NYC, I lived above a deli in beautiful Bed-Stuy Brooklyn. It was a total war-zone. I loved it. Now I live in Williamsburg with a bunch of hipster kids with skinny jeans and Vampire Weekend t-shirts. The city is too safe. I need another war-zone in order to thrive.
Stay safe and keep us updated
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Oh yes, please have an adventure of a lifetime
And be well!
Viva Los GDTs NMLR!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I've been stranded in the combat zone, I walked through Bedford Stuy alone
Sorry, couldn’t resist- Made me think of Billy Joel
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
raises hand
similar Bed-Stuy experience over here, boss – similar odd attraction
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
Step 1: Administer full body beating to said hipsters until they pass out from pain and/or from finding something about the way you are beating them "ironic".
Step 2: Remove their damn Vampire Weekend t-shirts.
Step 3: Replace with classy-as-hell Bear Coat baseball jersey*.
Step 4: Wait for hipster to regain consciousness.
Step 5: Administer second beating, this time focusing on the genitals so as to prevent the hipster from breeding and to avoid getting any stupid hipster blood on awesome shirt.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"Don't let the haircut fool you. I'm exceedingly wealthy." -Bill Gates.
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2010 2:04 AM CST up reply actions
If I was the boss of an illegal empire you would be my enforcer.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Lived in Humboldt Park in Chicago, I miss it.
GD I never shoulda got married.
If there are any youngsters out there thinking about getting married, at least wait until you’re 30. I’m glad I did but maybe 40 woulda been better.
I hate you Jason Parks.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Lived in pretty safe places all my life
and loved every minute of it.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
No kidding.
Pretty sure the people in true war zones would be quite willing to trade places, should anyone ask them.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
Mexico is the best
You are gonna have a blast living there.
Buena suerte, carnal.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 19, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Check out Cuernavaca, Morelos if you haven't already.
by inactive lsb user on Jan 19, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I want to
My wife has been down there before to study the temples at Teopanzolco. I really want to see the Palacio de Cortes and the Gardens.
Thanks for the info.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
Cool, thanks.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"Don't let the haircut fool you. I'm exceedingly wealthy." -Bill Gates.
by thedirkatron on Jan 19, 2010 2:05 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone have a link....
or know where to find a list (if one exists) of where I can find a list of all the players that the Rangers have signed out of the country that have received a worthwhile bonus?
This may not get seen way down here and/or a list may not exist so if needbe I’ll make a fanshot out of this.
This is awesome.
First Payano and now Alfaro. I love this. We just keep adding talent. I’m a bit surprised at the dollar amount, but I’ll take it.
Alfaro was pretty much the second ranked catcher in this year’s class behind Sanchez (NYY for like 3+ Million), right?
And assuming DePaula’s is still radioactive cause of document fraud and Wag Mateo’s old man eyes are as bad as rumored, might Alfaro have been the best remaining signable j2 guy out there?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"Don't let the haircut fool you. I'm exceedingly wealthy." -Bill Gates.
Ah
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 19, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
I think there is some sort of caveat
on just about anyone still out there, but I’d probably consider Carlixte in that class as well, until his signing with KC is confirmed. And Mateo is obviously a unique case, but I have to suspect that he would be the top talent available still, in reality.
But yeah, it’s pretty nice to see them just pick off top rated guys in the down season.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 19, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
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