Friday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2010 8:50 AM CST
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PrintJeff Wilson writes about the official announcement regarding the Khalil Greene signing, with Ron Washington saying that he won't hesitate to use Greene at all four infield spots as needed.
Wilson also writes that an announcement on the sale of the Rangers could come as early as today.
T.R. Sullivan has his Friday Happy Hour blog notes up this morning, as well.
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BMFF Sr
Needs to get out of the limelight quickly.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Just for the Heck of It: FINISH THE DEAL
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
If they're anything like me
they won’t get a damn thing done on a Friday. It can always wait till Monday!
But, then again, I guess that’s why I’m not an executive.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Hmmm
Sounds like executive material to me!
by Oracle Galvez on Jan 22, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Has Greene ever played any first in the bigs?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
No.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions
Nope.
No 2B either. Only played 3 games of 2B in the minors.
If he can play the left side of the infield though, it shouldn’t be too hard for him to slide over to the right side with some work this spring. It’s not like he’s an OF or something.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
So K Green (who hasn't been good in a while and has never played 1B) is the fall back option
if Davis sucks it again in 2010?
JD’s baby all the way.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I know it's a sin to agree with Josey in here
but I had the same thought…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Well
if Fat Andruw Jones can do it, I’m sure Khalil can figure it out
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Do we have a fat guy this year?
We need a fat guy.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jan 22, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
guardado's gone....
Frankie’s kinda fat
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Corrected
Frankie’s kinda fat phat.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Hunter isn't exactly the most trim
I would say
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I'm a fan of Tommy Hunter.
Scuffling against the Twins in late August without his best stuff, a line-drive back to the box nearly rips his nipple off.
Hunter gets pissed off but settles down and pitches well.
I like that.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yep, he doesn't seem to get rattled
he had that big defensive play to get the force out at home against Det as well. It was a 1 run game, and at the most crucial point, he stepped up and made the play.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I agree, I love Hunter's mentality.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Alright...
It’s decided, Tommy Hunter is the fat guy for the year, plus I like him because he throws down gin and tonics at Newberg Night
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jan 22, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
He's not very polite today
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Is he ever polite?
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Good morning to all....
Speaking of obp and the glaring Ranger weakness of 2009…
In 7 big league seasons, K Green has exactly 2 seasons where his obp was above .300 (.320 was his zenith).
I hope Green has less than 75 ab’s this season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
utility IFer
on this club is not exactly a position where you worry about the player getting exhausted.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Do they still make TVs?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Probably
But you can only find them in backward countries like Saudi Arabia, Madagascar, and Utah
by bdk03a on Jan 22, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
i laughed.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
i thought it was pretty good
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Recced for comedy sucess
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I liked it, mainly bc when I try to come up with obscure countries..
..Madagascar is usually the first one I come up with.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Djibouti
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Good one.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Djibouti of course!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Chad always struck me as funny.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Larry is a funny country too.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
stupid
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
i love that you've discounted your own humor.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
sometimes you gotta call it like it is.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
maybe 7 seasons
but only 2 seasons where he qualified for a batting title (502 PA’s) and 3 others which were 400+ PA’s.
His 2004 (.273/.349/.446) showed such promise.
Also, he gets a serious beat-down from his home park. Career splits are:
Home: .225/.289/.365
Road: .264/.314/.477
He also has no appreciable lefty righty split.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
What about Smoak? Moreland? Murphy? The RH 1b free agent to be signed (Garko, Tatis, etc.)?
If Davis is sent to AAA, we have a ton of legitimate options to play 1b. This is one of the stupidest arguments you’ve ever made.
You know the drill. Don’t bother responding. You’ll lose.
Smoak hasn't conquered AAA (neither has Moreland).
When they conquer AAA, we’ll consider them to be fall back options.
Murphy has never played 1B as a professional muchless in The Show.
Garko & Tatis aren’t here.
K Green is the fall back option at 1B when we go up against tough leftys like Kazmir, Lee and Anderson.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The clown
that is a perfect description for Josey. While he sits at home thinking he is really getting us, he is actually just cheap entertainment. Just like a clown, you laugh at him when he’s at the birthday party, but when he leaves, he never crosses your mind again.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
You've never said who you would prefer as the fall back option
You’re not going to find an established major league starting 1b who is willing to sit at AAA (behind Smoak) and wait for Chris Davis to fail. That’s nonsense. Most teams would love to have a fallback like Smoak waiting at AAA. He’s one of the top three (if not the best) 1b prospects in baseball.
As for having a RH platoon 1b on the roster, will you be satisfied if we sign a Garko/Tatis type player before the start of the season? I want a yes or no answer to this question.
Remember when Andrus was going to fail because he never conquered AAA
Man, that was a fun offseason.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Hadn't seen your comment till now
I’ve been making the same damn comment to Wails re: Smoak over and over. He never responds. It makes me sad.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
unnecessary
just make your point and move on. he hasnt said anything insulting this morning.
by nathanbaum09 on Jan 22, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
you must not have read
all the way down.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I wish I hadnt read all the way down
complete waste of time
by nathanbaum09 on Jan 22, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
I'm ok with it.
Josey has a history of ignoring my points because he’s not smart enough to respond. If I remind him of that quickly, he is more likely to go away. I’ve seen it work before.
He's not the fall back option you jackass
He’s the backup. If Davis “shits the bed fantastic” I think they would turn to a trade or a Smoak for the everyday replacement….not Greene.
The same Smoak who had his
doors blown off by AAA pitching.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Shit Josey
You should be a scout. All these scouts and minor league “experts” raving about Smoak…but you got some kind of inside information in that little brain of yours. I think you’re onto something….
funny.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Smoak is on the way
it just depends on the team needs. He wasn’t a 100% last season and still held his own. His splits weren’t good but again he was playing hurt. Also, I think that everyone can agree that he could play 1st better than anyone else currently on the 40 man roster. (besides Davis, but we are talking about replacing Davis if we have to.)
by Warren P Funk on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
doors blown off?
In very close to the same number of at bats between AA and AAA, Smoak got 12 fewer hits. over 50 games.
Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It’s 25 hits. 25 hits in 500 at bats is 50 points, okay? There’s 6 months in a season, that’s about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week – just one – a gorp… you get a groundball, you get a groundball with eyes… you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week… and you’re in Yankee Stadium.
— Crash Davis
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Does it matter?
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
David/Spur breaks down the Rangers offensive projections over at BBTiA
● Using OBP and slugging predictions from Bill James, CHONE, and Marcel to calculate the Rangers optimal lineup for scoring runs produces the lineup below that is projected to score 873 runs during 2010:
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
What were we projected to score last year?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
boy did we underperform.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
seems a little high
well there is me, and my plants.
Sir, at the U.S. Census Bureau, we don’t count plants…
Okay, than just make it 1
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
We have some...
…candy bars.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Reference?
I hate being left out of a quoting thread
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jan 22, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Christopher Walken
SNL skit where Tim Meadows is the U.S. Census guy. He asks him how many people live there and he says 80. He’s counting his plants and candy bars etc. You really have to see it because it’s hard to explain.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Favorite Christopher Walken skit:
The Continental. Would you like some champagne? ha
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 22, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
ShaumPawnYee
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
*Yay
bleh
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
oh no..
i have spilled champagne all over your boobs…
Let me wipe them…
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
hahahaha
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 22, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I have the CW dvd of all his best from SNL
It is the only DVD I’ve watched multiple times.
I think the writers step up their game for certain hosts.
by txranfanted on Jan 22, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
80? Seems a bit high. Put me down for 4. I'm so bad at guesstimating.
So you work full time?
No. There are these huge chunks of time, at night, where I just sleep for like hours. It’s ridiculous.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Who lives here?
Well me, my wife, a couple candy bars.
A couple candy bars? We don’t count candy bars.
Ok, well then, two. I’m so bad at guesstimating.
(Growl)
What was that?
That’s my wife. She’s a bobcat.
Your wifes a bobcat?
Don't worry - I have a permit
Sir, that’s a permit to do street performance.
She’s part of the show.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
A .100 point swing in Davis OPS would be huge
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
yeah, on second look at BBTIA it is
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
But it shouldn't be
And you’ll see places where it’s not.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
That's weird to me if true
if you add to numbers tha contain decimals, how do you eliminate decimals from the final answer?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Because it isn't a straight rate of anything
it is an accumulation of two things that is displayed as a number.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
why?
.300 + .300 is… .600
And its listed on espn, cbs, fox sports, fangraphs, etc….
the preceding post was a great success.
But .300 and .300 of two different things
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
so why not have it be 600 trillion?
i don’t see how making it a whole number makes any more sense. its a made up number, why is one more logical than the other?
i don’t know, i’m no expert here.. you are probably right. nonetheless i think this is one you are going to have to let slide, heh.
the preceding post was a great success.
It's not so much a whole number
as a representation. As far as statistical sites, my guess as to why they display it as a decimal has always been that they obviously calculate it as a sum of two calculated decimals, so it’s just not worth the trouble to translate that.
I agree, it’s not worth my trouble to point out. I usually don’t say anything.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
OPS+ doesn't have a decimal
but OPS itself only makes sense to have a decimal like Dshep gave the ex. above
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
yeah im pretty convinced on this now..
Its an original number derived from two others.. it can be in whatever form the creator of the stat defines. And its defined as two decimals added together.
the preceding post was a great success.
Last thing I'll say
I agree that it can be whatever the creator of the stat defines. That’s the only reason that OPS+ is displayed as a percentage, rather than a decimal, for aesthetic purposes. All I’m saying here is a) OPS is not a raw number, but a bastardization of raw numbers, and b) I believe that it’s “creator” or at least folks who represented it originally intended for it to be displayed without a decimal. Again, you’re reading a decimal rather than a percentage into the definition just because you’re used to seeing it that way now on websites that show OPS.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Multiplying a ratio by 1000 does not make it a percentage.
If On Base Percentage was really a percentage, we’d say something like… “The league average OBP is around 34%”
We don’t say that, we say .340, or 340. Neither is a percentage.
Huh?
On base percentage IS a percentage. And it’s completely legit to say that a player gets on base 34% of the time.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
We're saying the same thing.
We use the term “percentage” but we actually use the form .340 or 340.
Neither of those numbers is 34.
.340 is a ratio, not a percentage.
340, if you want to be annoyingly precise about it, means nothing. It’s just leaving the decimal off.
Again, huh?
34% = .34 = .340. Those are all the exact same thing. Yes, we’re saying the same thing, but your statement “If On Base Percentage was really a percentage” makes zero sense. It is a percentage, no matter how you say it.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
The percentage
would be the ratio x 100.
They all represent the same thing, but they’re not the same thing.
The is dumb.
The is dumb.
great sentence! that says it all
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
He doesn't like the word the
can’t blame him, it is overused
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
I prefer the alternate to the ---- teh
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I find myself only using the word the if there's antecedent basis
Hard to do on a message board, though.
The semantics in this discussion
would give Noam Chomsky headaches.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
If he wasn't dead, you mean
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
/Hugo Chavez, natch
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I suppose only current news is good for a one-liner?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
As Kris Kristofferson might say...
Don’t let the bastards get you down.
Oh, wait, that might be too old as well…
OBP = (H + BB + HBP) divided by (AB + BB + HBP + SF)
SLG = TB divided by AB
OPS = OBP + SLG
Plug the numbers in for a player and theres a cut and dry number you will arrive at. It will have a decimal.
the preceding post was a great success.
you are completely wrong
you can only add those “percentages” if you had the same denominator.
OPS is a number
"OPS is a number", well thanks professor science.
per wiki:
Since OBP and SLG have different denominators, it is possible to rewrite the expression for OPS using a common denominator.
This expression is mathematically identical to the simple sum of OBP and SLG:
the preceding post was a great success.
Heh, Professor Science
is my favorite off-screen Dinosaur Comics character
Here’s a pic, linked so as not to set off the OC alarms
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I should have been more clear
you can add whatever percentages you want. Like people said in other examples below, you can add the percentage of orange sales in florida in february relative to the whole year to the percentage of times i curse on this board relative to all of my posts. And I could come up with a formula for that percentage as well (cross multiply the numerator and denominator over the product of the denominators).
But it doesn’t mean anything. Adding two ratios means jack unless the ratios have the same denominator.
There’s a reason that nobody refers to OPS as a percentage (like nobody says OPS percentage).
Now, you then have the option of just writing it as a whole number or continuing to write it as a percentage. But it’s just stupid to continue using the decimals when decimals usually denote a percentage/ratio. There is no ratio here. You can’t say OPS is the ratio of X to Y in any clear or concise form.
But apparently a lot of people do write it as a decimal so what the hell. doesn’t mean they are right
I
A decimal doesn’t HAVE to denote a percentage or ratio. As you said, noone uses it as such for ops.
Maybe it is stupid for it to use a decimal anyway, but it can be both stupid and correct if thats how the term was defined, used and popularized.
Its not like its some popular random internet slang, its how its listed on every major websites, newspaper and broadcast.
the preceding post was a great success.
i'm pretty sure that's not how it was defined and initially used
but can’t argue that the decimal seems to be more popular
what are you basing that on?
Do you have any source at all that it was initially listed otherwise?
the preceding post was a great success.
google searching it
Everything I see acknowledges that its bad math, not a true statistic. Just a crude way to combine two stats and compare players.
But thats not the fault of people who use it as such.
And I don’t see how saying you can’t add obp and slugging together is any more relevant to its use with a decimal than it is without one, you are still adding the numbers.
Think I’m finally done with this now.. wow that was wasted energy.
the preceding post was a great success.
.600
houiles
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
well if i made up a stat call mours, and declared it was
miles plus hours.. it would equal .600
“On-base percentage plus slugging percentage. See OBP, above, and Slg, below, for definitions”
its one plus the other. .300 plus .300. Thats the definition of the term.
the preceding post was a great success.
Yeah, that’s a pet peeve of mine. I think that yahoo lists it as a decimal, for example. It is not a pure decimal, but a sum of two unrelated decimals that, in its original form, didn’t appear as a decimal.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
So I went back a did a search of all the times I said "OPS of..."
And i’m very guilty of putting a decimal in front. It will not happen again.
Yes,
JD has staked so much of This Thing’s 2010 future on the shoulders of Chris Davis.
If he has another crappy year, this offense is toast. I’ll take the waaaaaaaaay under on 873 runs scored as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
You are so right
If we screwed the pooch, shit the bed, kicked the dog, and only scored 872 runs while allowing 740, like we did last year. That would just suck so badly.
That would translate into a 94 win season. I’d hate that. I’d just die if we won 94 games. man that would suck. and it would be all Chris Davis’ fault. If the Rangers won 94 games, I think we should fire Wade Phillips. :)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Overall numbers look pretty good.
Get that production, maintain (or improve.. hopefully borbon does well) last years defense and get 150 ip out of harden and things should be pretty good.
the preceding post was a great success.
btw, good thing you have that troll script, it's about to get loud in here.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
doesn't seem too out of bounds
minor league OPS 704, major league OPS 702.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
he'll probably hit better eventually
but I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think it may not be 2010. He’ll still just be 21, and he really has never hit much since rookie league. Just be glad it’s his glove, and not FFace’s glove at SS.
Pudge Rodriguez didn’t break an 800 OPS until his 4th year in the league when he was 22. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some early struggling with Andrus, due to his age.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
This should be fun
SI_JonHeyman #mets are acquiring gary matthews jr. from angels, according to an AL source. story will be up soon on si.com.
The Angels just got better...
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jan 22, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
No
don’t let them unload that albatross
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
HH about to have a sitewide circle jerk.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Also called
a weekday over there…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
So says the person in a circle jerk
celebrating the fact that Cobra Lewis and K Green are both Rangers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Who are you referring to?
me, Ryin, or Boomer?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
He hates all 3 of us
Just a blanket statement by him.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
I don't "hate" anybody in here.
I do think there are a large number of naive baseball dumbasses that can’t look at their favorite team realistically.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
I'd agree with that
And you, sir, are one of them. You just fall on the other end of the unrealistic spectrum.
"we’re a bunch of knee-jerking yahoos who like new and shiny things." -- FirebatM3 July 10, 2009
by Oddibee on Jan 22, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oddibee
I’m unrealistic for currently thinking (although it’s subject to change when spring training begins) This Thing is gonna finish with 85-89 wins?
My problem is that the glaring weaknesses from last year weren’t fixed and JD is foisting expectations on too many players & pitchers to do things they’ve either never done or didn’t do last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Can't judge the future yet
But you were unrealistic for predicting 72 wins last year. You base many of your predictions on pure emotion just like the “naive baseball dumbasses” you are referring to. It is just that your emotions are more based on hatred of JD than love for all things Ranger.
Same root problem, different symptom.
"we’re a bunch of knee-jerking yahoos who like new and shiny things." -- FirebatM3 July 10, 2009
by Oddibee on Jan 22, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
My 2009 win projection
was very much in line with what most people who weren’t Ranger fans thought was going to happen.
We were a 76 pythag win team in 2008 that had lost Milton Bradley, was bringing in 20 year old to play SS, had finished the previous season 19-29 and we didn’t have a dependable closer (CJ was hurt in 2008).
Lots of red flags there and exactly why I (along with Vegas, PECOTA, BP, SI and several others) thought they were going to win 73 games or so.
I completely underestimated how much Nolan Ryan would will This Thing to 87 wins (which was his prediction before the season) by implementing Massive Change.
As for this off-season, it’s JD’s baby all the way. Official predictions for 2010 will come from me towards the end of spring training.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
So
you don’t do your own predictions, you just piggyback off a bunch of other people’s predictions and call them their own.
I know I personally can’t wait for your prophetic predictions of this year…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Not true at all.
Before 2004, I had the Rangers as at least .500 (they played .500 ball their last 88 games with mostly young players) while most projections had them losing close to 100 games (Evan Grant had them losing 95 games).
20 games into that season, I looked at their run differential and said they’d win 88-92 games (they won 89 games).
In January of 2007, before any projections came out I said they had “75 win talent.” They went 75-87 that year.
Before 2008 I said they would go 76-86 (they won 79 games but their pythag was 76-86).
I definitely look at where others have the Rangers projected (objective information is a good thing) but my projections are my own.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
You're pretty good...
But I’ve predicted every single season’s win totals accurately for the last 15 years…..I can’t prove it, but just trust me on this.
You too?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 22, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry Cave, you're on record saying the following:
Saw this over at Minorleagueball.com (awesome site run by John Sickels) and thought I would rob the idea a bit with a Rangers twist. Seems like this would be fun to do on a morning after a big DH sweep and AJM being unavailable.
Premise: In the comment section write a few predictions or opinions you had that were dead wrong. A lot of posters here (myself included) like to point out everytime they are right but sometimes dont readily admit when they were flat wrong. Ill go first of course (and yes some of these I can still be correct on but the probability has decreased a great deal):
1. I thought the Rangers would only win 83 games (knock on wood).
2. I thought it would only take 86-88 wins to take the AL West title.
3. I was on board with dealing Feliz (but not including Smoak, Perez, of Holland), and other parts to the Blue Jays for Halladay
4. I was wrong about Blake Beavan. I thought his FB would come back in full force this yr and his K rate would increase
5. I thought Chris Davis was going to hit around 40 HRs this yr.
6. I thought Hank Blalock was still alive.
7. I thought Taylor Teagarden would wrest the starting job from Salty via merit not injury
8. I thought that IF the Rangers were still in the playoff hunt in September it would be because Kinsler is having an MVP caliber yr and not MY.
9. Lastly, I thought if we were in the race this late it would be because of our juggernaut offense not our pitching and defense.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
You really have
no sense of humor do you? Also, you were noticeably absent from that thread werent you? Hmm, problem with reality much? haha <— This denotes a joke. Also, you may want to look at this you mental midget:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 22, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Number 8 was actually true
Despite the offensive numbers, Kinsler was HUGELY more valuable due to his superior defense
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I know you lie Cave!
;)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Way to get a joke
Rodney :-). Obviously, Josey Wales does not.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 22, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Not me.
Every year my pediction looks about the same:
98-102 wins, world series title.
Damnit, if you’re going to be a fan, you can’t be realistic as well.
This year, I predict they’ll win, 99 games, sweep the Yanks in the Division round, take the Tigers in 6 in the ALCS, and defeat the Cubs in a 7 game classic won in extra innings on a Chris Davis Home run. The ball will fly gracefully through the air, and be caught in the home run porch by one Josey Wales, who will then throw it back saying, “I WON”T GIVE LITTLE BOY DONUTS CREDIT FOR THIS!!!!!" Then the fans around him will lynch him, and hang im from the rafters.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
What's your question?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Let's start with this one
As for having a RH platoon 1b on the roster, will you be satisfied if we sign a Garko/Tatis type player before the start of the season? I want a yes or no answer to this question.
If we bring in another 1b who can hit lefties, will you be satisfied?
It's completely dependent
on the player they bring in but to trying to sell the fans that K Green is THE answer when/if CDavis shits the bed or needs to sit because our opponent is throwing Kazmir or Lee is insulting.
You aren’t getting a yes or no answer until I see who they bring in so feel free to stamp your feet right now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Typical
no real answer, just a bunch of words strung together to insult JD and Davis
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
The answer
is that I’m not currently satisfied because K Green is THE option to replace CDavis.
Yeah, if they swing a deal for some badass who can play an adequate 1B, is patient & disciplined and kills LH pitching, I’d love it.
Have I mentioned this off-season is JD’s baby all the way?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
who's else would it be?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
No
and you haven’t told us JD’s biggest gamble this offseason
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
No one is selling the fans that GreenE is the answer
That’s a fantasy that you’ve come up with. No one else thinks that. Anywhere.
But I’ll play nice and ask the question another way so you have the opportunity to answer. Below are a list of potential RH 1b types. For each of the following names, please confirm whether you’d be satisfied if we acquired that player (yes/no answers only).
Gomes
Garko
Tatis
Dye
Nady
Tracy
Millar
no Nomar love?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
That's pie in the sky, cstorm.
When one of those players comes aboard we’ll put him under the scope but until then, the answer to Chris Davis shitting the bed or sitting down v a tough lefty is the immortal Khalil Green.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Again
no answer. Just more strung together words to insult Davis and JD
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
is it impossible for you to answer
a direct question
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
That's chickenshit, Josey
If and when the Rangers sign one of those players, you can’t comment. I gave you the chance now and you shit the bed.
Seriously, this must be very sad for you to admit that you can’t take a stance on something.
(FYI, we have one roster spot left for an offensive player, and there is a very high likelihood that we will acquire a RH 1b. This isn’t pie in the sky; you’re just shitting the bed again.)
by cstorm15 on Jan 22, 2010 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's gone Cstorm
He can only post the same drivel and nonsense so many times before he overheats and has to take a break
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
This is where the cowboy rides away.
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“/>pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/tin-foil-hat.jpg” >
Who gives a shit what Josey says.............................
by Lil' Jonny Donuts on Jan 24, 2010 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
There is a good possibility that
Green isn’t going to be the everyday backup 1st baseman. Wash could have just thrown that out there because IN A PERFECT WORLD the utility inf. could play all positions. He will get some reps in ST and we will see. BUT… Smoak will be the solution if Davis falls flat. It will happen so just get the FUCK OVER IT ALREADY!!
by Warren P Funk on Jan 22, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
No he
is off dazzling asses or something like that
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 22, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
I know you don't do facts very well
but when have I ever said I was for having Lewis or Greene on the roster? I’m undecided on both. It’s too early to make predictions any of it. I’ll probably wait until around October to let you know how many I think the Rangers will win…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Josey
here is the great thing about you. You recognize the fact that baseball is a game of failure. So, you come on here and you spout negative b.s. about pretty much every Rangers player and every Rangers transaction etc. with the knowledge that since baseball is a game of failure, you have a much better shot at being right then if you predict people to succeed. Take the Andrus example. You promised us he would fail. The percentages said he would fail. If he had failed like so many other 19/20 year old kids in the majors, you would have come on here belittling everyone for hoping/thinking he was ready to play in the bigs. Since he beat the odds and succeeded, you get to say, I was wrong, but I’m glad I was beacuse it helps me team. Your predictions aren’t earth shattering or prophetic in any way. You simply predict everyone will fail and when they do, because baseball is a game of failure, you celebrate like you are a baseball genius.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Andrus failed on Andrus
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Not true
plenty on here predicted he would be fine defensively and possibly hold his own offensively. You are developing into Josey’s lapdog. Every post with a tiny little insult towards him is followed up with you jumping in to defend him…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
I don't remember anybody seriously
saying that Andrus “would hold his own offensively.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
You're probably right
But most thought his D would more than make up for it combined with MY NOT being at SS. All you bitched about was AA errors and the horrible injustice done to MY. Most of us were right and you were wrong. Fortunately, everyone was wrong about E’s offense.
Oh, don’t forget all you harped on was the fact that E came from AA. Here you are again saying that Smoak “has” to conquer AAA.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
no ive never defended anything he said
ive actually promoted opposition to him, just not insults.
by nathanbaum09 on Jan 22, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
And I'm on record as saying
I think this team is about where they were last year…somewhere between 85-89 wins.
I haven’t said anything about them taking a step backwards.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
You rapscallion you...
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Whatever, he hates y'all two, not me.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Omar Minaya
is a douche. It’s like he searches for the worst contracts and makes a concerted effort to go get them.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Probably trying to make more front office friends so he can get a job once shitcanned.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
That word doesn't mean what you think it does
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 22, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
fucking mets....
and what do the Angels get?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Beltran
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
wait... is this for real?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
No
and supposedly Angels are picking up a huge portion of the salary
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
No, sorry
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Surely the Angels are still responsible for a lot of that contract, right?
by Brett Perryman on Jan 22, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, that's funny
If you suck enough that they trade your ass just to get rid of you — bonus!
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Nice little severance bonus
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
what's left on that contract of his?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
It was 5 for 50.
Don’t remember how long he’s been gone. Dammit, that makes the Angels better again.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
i read the angels could pick up as much as 20,000,000 of it
that doesn’t help
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
GMJ is owed..........
…..$11 mil in 2010 and $12 mil in 2011.
Plus he gets the $500,000 ‘bonus’ for being traded.
HGH is a wonderful thing.
So the Halos are paying $20MM of the $23MM owed to him
It that is so that is not a bad deal for the Mets.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
I haven't hear exactly how much the Angels are picking up
I’m sure it’s the majority of the deal.
However, even if he’s not costing the Mets a penny, if they play him, then is costing them something. A shot at winning.
I think I read that in 2009 that GMJ was so awful that if he had paid the Angels for the right to be on their roster, they’d still be hurting their chances of winning.
+1
he’s below replacement level. no matter what, this is a stupid deal
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
and you get the bonus of him thinking he deserves to start everyday
and the attitude that results.
the preceding post was a great success.
Wow.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jan 22, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
GMJ, is there only good defensive OF
other than Hunter, who is declining.
Let the Angels run with a defense that includes two of the 3 – Matsui, Abreu, Rivera. The other DHs
Depends who they get back. I wouldn’t think they would get anyone of real value, so who provides their depth if someone gets hurt? Reggie Willits?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
whoa, nevermind what I just said
GMJ has a – UZR/150 and – UZR the last couple of years, so his defense is no longer even good. His WAR has been -0.8 the last 2 years as well. Why would the mets want somebody below replacement level? If they gave up anything in this deal, even a pack of gum, it’s a stupid stupid deal
WOW!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
OT: Red Sox farm director interview
over at minor league ball, pretty interesting:
http://tinyurl.com/yelqp34
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Yah
Enjoyed that. I have to think most baseball executives end up being really articulate…they have to beat out so much competition for those awesome jobs.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 22, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
OMFG -- regarding GMJ trade --- Mets are so stupid!
the mets are, appartently, sending the Angels a “low-salaried pitcher” from their ML roster.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
holy cow...
Niese?
Nieve?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Not bad
A nice 1696% return on his investment since 1995.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I don't understand this . . .
Said Daniels: “It’s going to be better than Andruw Jones. I can promise you that.”
by Randy Richardson on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions
it's from the Jeff Wislon
article about the Khalil Greene signing.
by Randy Richardson on Jan 22, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know exactly who he's addressing, but I have a high degree of confidence
that it’s better than Andruw Jones
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Jan 22, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In fact, I have no idea at all who he's speaking of, but as long as it is a baseball playing live human under tha age of Julio Franco
I’m pretty sure it’s better than Andruw Jones
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I think he's just talking bout transitioning to1B defense.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Brian Stokes
going to Anaheim. 70 something innings for the Mets last year. Numbers not overwhelming
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 11:07 AM CST reply actions
Kinsler comments on offseason
From a Rangers’ caravan last night:
“We basically covered every question we had going into the off-season, with very little spending money,” Kinsler started. "JD made some very smart moves at the winter meetings. You never like to see a teammate get traded, especially someone who did so much for the organization in four years like Kevin [Millwood], but JD and the rest of his guys thought that move was necessary.
“When we were able to get Vlad [Guerrero]… the signings we had before that were exciting, but to be able to get Vlad, it just got us all excited. We realize that this is our year. It’s all up to us now.”
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I can't wait either.
Considering the financial situation, JD got a lot done. Hopefully it comes together.
This is going to piss someone off
How dare the players side with JD.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
bullshit
their actually siding with Nolan, but he ordered them to support JD this time just to further his efforts of world domination.
This is all Nolan and the players will stand behind him
is the wink necessary?
Fuck Mike Estabrook
You are so right how could I have missed all the signs?
lol
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
you know
it’s good that they think JD did well this offseason but pointing to Vlad as the linchpin is … telling.
Yeah, I'm certainly not holding up Kinsler
as a sooth sayer or great analyst, but I liked that the players are excited, and I really liked the “it’s all up to us now” part of that.
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I'm not sure
I understand the excitement Angels fans have for this trade. You are paying a guy a terrible contract to not play for you. He wasn’t starting or blocking a young prospect. He was a vastly overpaid 4th OF who is now a vastly overpaid player for someone else.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 22, 2010 11:11 AM CST reply actions
When was the last time Angels fans had to worry about money?
I don’t think their management has said “we couldn’t afford X” in the last 10 years. All they know is that someone who sucked and would complain about playing time isn’t on their team anymore.
And given the general tendency to overrate chemistry and intangibles by Angels' fans
(Maybe rightfully brought on by, like, a decade of outperforming the Pyths) I can see why an Angel fan would think this is the bee’s knees, while the rest of us chuckle at how bad the GMJ signing turned out
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
There have been rumors of them cutting budget this off season
And that is kinda proven by their FA activity thus far.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I love it...
when people try to force a reasonable or serious response from Ass Antlers.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
BAD Radio rolling screenless and a caller asks Sports Sturm
“Why is soccer so gay?”
Genius.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Who gives a shit what Josey says.................
Who gives a shit what Josey says.............................
by Lil' Jonny Donuts on Jan 22, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Better question
Mr. Wails – what are you doing to that alpaca? I’m afraid we’re going to have to bring you in.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
OT: this just in....Burger King to sell beer at a few of it's NEW restaurants
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2010-01-21-burger-king-beer_N.htm
I did not ask you if you have herpes I said is that a hairpiece?!?
So...
3 items from the .99 cent menu and a frosty beverage?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.