Friday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 7:54 AM CST
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T.R. Sullivan has a lengthy piece up, in which he talks to Tom Hicks about his tenure as owner of the Rangers. Hicks acknowledges some mistakes with free agent signings, and also talks about the problems John Hart had with the media once he came to Texas, among other things.
Randy Galloway has his Tom HIcks column up this morning, and doesn't have anything good to say.
Evan Grant writes about BA having the Ranger farm system checking in at #2 in baseball, behind Tampa Bay.
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On Matt Purke
I don’t have any problem with what MLB did. Back in July, they are looking at a team the other 29 teams are having to fund, with an owner who has gotten the team into the financial mess it was in, and who, at that time, hasn’t shown he was overly serious about selling the team. I think it’s pretty reasonable to them to say “we aren’t going to give you more money to sign a guy for a lot more than most team would pay him, given that you are already broke and don’t have a plan to fix your problem”. Forget the whole thing about slotting, from a pure business perspective it didn’t make sense for them allow it.
That said, I’m glad they didn’t let us spend $6 million on a high school pitcher. (And before you say, but it would have been Hicks’ money, no it wouldn’t have been. The team was apparently running on a line of credit, so that $6 million would have just added to the amount the team owed MLB — or prevented the team from paying back — and I suspect become Chuck Greenberg’s problem to deal with).
by Darrell McKown on Jan 29, 2010 8:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
From Mr. Hicks:
“These are entities that run as a business, and Jerry Jones has always made money with the Cowboys. I didn’t always make money with the Rangers.”
Anything decent that Hicks says is immediately forgotten when he whines about this kind of stuff. He has taken so much criticism for these sorts of comments that you would expect him to keep these thoughts to himself. He just can’t resist…it’s almost sad.
by ncrangerfan on Jan 29, 2010 8:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he's coming off really bad these last 24 hours
It makes EG’s “he doesn’t deserve scorn” column look pretty silly.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2010 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No freakin joke man.
He has got to have more pride than just about anyone around the DFW area. I know is a wealthy, financially, and with thing inherently brings “pride” but dang man, this is just crap. You know Jerry and Cuban have the same pride but they know how to go about it. You dong hear them coming out talking like this. Just shut the hell up and go away already. You were a terrible owner and you screwed this team so many times over!! I so hope we dont see this goof face at opening day this year and Chuck and Nolan better throw out the first pitch!!!
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jan 29, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The old question:
If you ask how much something costs, you can’t afford it. If he’s complaining how he lost all this money, you shouldn’t have bought the fucking franchise, you douche!
At any rate, wasn’t it Forbes that said that the Rangers were making in the order of $10 million a year since he slashed payroll under $70 million?
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it was a 10 million in "operating income" they made
No telling how much actual profit they made especially considering the financial situation HSG got the Rangers into
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jan 29, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly the team
made $ 25 million in 2005 and Tom Hicks was on with The Musers laughing and bragging at how the team (that went 79-83) was now “very, very profitable” but I guess our scorn is still …ahem..“unwarranted.”
Kudos to RG for a good column today.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK so he made money that year
He probably made money a few years. How much money did he lose during his time as owner? The years when he had the 100+ million dollar payrolls how much money did he “make”?
You think Chuck Greenberg and the group of investors that own the team now aren’t going to care if we are operating in the red or black?
As much as we as fans want our owners to only care about winning it is a business venture for them. Mark Cuban is the exception not the norm. And given that we are now owned by a group of people and not one individual I would imagine the books are going to be a much greater importance than had one real wealthy “fan” bought us
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jan 29, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
big steve, do you also believe the scorn for Hicks
is “unwarranted”?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some of its warranted sure
Do you believe that at no time during his ownership of the Rangers he ever cared about winning and making money was his only concern?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jan 29, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, in fairness
You are a bit biased when it comes to what Grant writes.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am?
I like EG…what are you referring to?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only thing I never liked that he wrote
was his commenting on CJ tweeting. I used to give him crap for that, but that’s about it.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I may be mixing you up with someone else
Or just remembering the C.J. Wilson stuff.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's the only thing really
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 29, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats wrong with that statement?
Do you think pro sports owners don’t care about making money? Thats the ultimate goal for probably 99% of owners. Sure winning a title is great and I imagine most want to win but money is the ultimate goal. Whether its in the year to year operations or in the value of the franchise rising for when you sell it off. If you think Chuck Greenberg and the group that bought the Rangers now doesn’t care about making money you are crazy. Its how they go about doing so that will determine how most fans view them.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jan 29, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Hicks really leveraged the Rangers to buy Liverpool, then Hicks crossed a line.
It’s one thing to ask a team be profitable. It’s another thing to siphon so much money out of the team and leverage any remaining value in the team so that you can pay for other failed business interests.
If you want to find a real reason why Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban are better owners, here’s one: they’ve never let another business venture take priority over the team. Or, more accurately, they’ve never put themselves in a position where they had to make such a decision.
by cstorm15 on Jan 29, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yes, this is the defining the very essense of Hicks
He used the Rangers as collateral to obtain other assets. I hope MLB makes this illegal for anyone ever to do this again. In fact, I think doing this was criminal.
by SanDiegoKev on Jan 29, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"He used the Rangers as collateral to obtain other assets."
Apparently, you’re not familiar with the way big business operates?
by swampdonkey on Jan 29, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Hicks isn’t the only American to use his stateside sports assets to buy an EPL club:
George Gillett- owned the Montreal Canadiens when he bought into Liverpool
Lerner family- owns the Browns & Aston Villa
Glazer family- owns the Buccaneers & Manchester United
Stan Kroenke- owns the Nuggets, Avalanche, Colorado Rapids, and is part owner of the Rams & Arsenal
So Hicks wasn’t doing anything that a number of his counterparts weren’t already doing.
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
by RCCook on Jan 29, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't make it a tactic
that the club’s fans should enjoy. If it hinders your team, just because some people do it, you don’t have to grin and bear it.
by Brett Perryman on Jan 29, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks (and the Rangers) aren't the only ones that got kicked in the teeth by this economy
by swampdonkey on Jan 29, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
However
I’m not aware of another major sports team that practically went into receivership, and whose owner had to be forced to sell (fighting the whole way), because of this economy.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What Hicks did isn't the problem. It's when he did it.
If the economy hadn’t capsized on him, it likely wouldn’t have become a problem. Businesses typically leverage their assets and/or refinance their debt, but if you do it and then the economy tanks, things get ugly. So, it’s not so much what Hicks did, but when he did it.
by swampdonkey on Jan 29, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Most Big Business
is not exempt from anti-trust regs and receives favored status. Time to remove the anti-trust exemptions if this is the way business will be done.
by SanDiegoKev on Jan 29, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt money is the ultimate goal for 99% of owners
Owning a sports franchise is a horrible way of investing your hundreds of millions unless you have a team like the Yankees, Red Sox, Lakers, Cowboys, and a few others. Not losing money is important, but you usually don’t see owners investing 500 million dollars like other businessmen and making the same kind of return on that investment.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 29, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How exactly do you get from...
“Anything decent that Hicks says is immediately forgotten when he whines about this kind of stuff.”
to
“Chuck Greenberg doesn’t care about making money”
Yeah, we get it. Greenberg wants to make money just like Hicks wants to make money. All owners want profitable franchises. One of the ways to do that is to improve the public perception of your franchise. One of the ways to NOT improve the public perception of your franchise is to complain about how fans support other teams in the area more. Cuban, though he complains about scheduling conflicts all the time, and Jerry Jones speak to the press and public in a similar manner to how Greenberg is now and it makes a difference in how their teams are perceived.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to beat a dead horse,
But it’s really simple. If you want to make more money, then field a ball club that wins consistently. It’s really that simple. Win and everything else will fall into place.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
by txhc on Jan 29, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So I broke down and bought opening day tickets on Stub Hub
Nothing fancy….just right-centerfield bleacher seats….I paid nearly double, but i figured that it would only get more expensive, and I didn’t want to take the chance of it being sold out the day single game tickets go on sale.
by death of the cool on Jan 29, 2010 8:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think today's Newberg Haiku
Sets the tone for the season well.
BA’s number two
Good and all, but rank that counts
Is now AL West
by Conjunction on Jan 29, 2010 9:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Poetry corner
Haikus are easy
But sometimes they don’t make sense
Refrigerator
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jan 29, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Are you gonna tell that one every time the subject comes up?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 29, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
poetry in the corner
Haikus are stupid
whether or not they make sense
masturbatory
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 30, 2010 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I find interesting
TR’s Take:
Whatever success or disappointments the Rangers have had over 12 years, Hicks insists it was not for lack of trying….Hicks is forthright in admitting that he made mistakes as owner. He does not shy away from that.
Galloway’s Take:
Under Tom’s watch, with his business failures outside baseball leaving the team in a leverage hellhole, all that fandom goodwill ended….His 12-year legacy as the owner of the local baseball club is currently the most soiled of any in any sport ever within the confines of North Texas.
I don’t want to make any rash generalizations, but doesn’t it seem like these two writers just picked a side and decided to make an argument? I don’t know… maybe it’s just the state of journalism today, but why does it always have to be slanted with opinion from the writer?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow, that's just all kinds of f'd up....
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Sullivan’s story doesn’t seem to be all that laced with opinion, to me.
Galloway’s does, but he’s a columnist. His stories are supposed to be “slanted with opinion”…that’s his job.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it just felt like both had their own agendas...
that’s what I don’t like about it. I understand that’s how Galloway makes his paycheck, so I guess I shouldn’t let his shtick get to me.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Sullivan, to me, was writing a piece where he basically was saying, “Here’s what Tom Hicks has to say.” If anything, it seemed like he tried to stay away from opining too much about Hicks’ tenure here.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you're probably right
maybe it’s my anti-TR bias showing. Maybe I’m just in a bad mood today…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With respect to any and every writer's commentary on Hicks
My initial dislike (circa first year he bought the club) was based on the fact that he’s a predatory investor, whose modus operandi would not be good for a major league baseball franchise. Overly speculative, at times wildly out of balance with economic drifts, and excessive use of leverage. And that’s not hindsight. I still believe Hick’s public image was, and has been, greatly influenced by his phrasing of things that mean something to him as a speculator, but are rangy and off-kilter at best to people outside the leveraged buyout circus. He is neither dumb nor inarticulate – he simply lives in a different, hellish world than most.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jan 29, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Perfectly said
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jan 29, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When is Galloway
never slanted with opinion?
I can see TR’s take a little bit, he’s essentially a company man and as of right now Hicks is still his boss. I think he did a pretty fair job though of quoting Hicks and letting him take responsibility for his mistakes. I personally think that was one of TR’s better articles recently, it’s more like the stuff he used to write at the Star Telegram.
You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.
by Escher on Jan 29, 2010 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks is a jerk, yada yada yada
I’m moving on from this topic.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 29, 2010 9:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You'll be back...
they always come back…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
+1 tball,
This topic is starting to rank up there with the likes of the Texas/San Diego and jon danks trades.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jan 29, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Chris Davis
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
by AceJC on Jan 29, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let the healing begin
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Jan 29, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The War is Won.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All very good choices.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
by AceJC on Jan 29, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But we've been told our scorn for Hicks
is “unwarranted” and that we shouldn’t be tap dancing on his ownership grave.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While I don't agree with Evan Grant on yesterday's piece...
…you have to admit that he makes a few salient points, like that it was technically the most successful ownership tenure in franchise history.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Jan 29, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josey only admits to points being salient if they are rabidly anti-Hicks
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For once...FOR ONCE...
…I just want him to acknowledge that there exists a middle ground. He doesn’t need to agree with it. Just acknowledge it.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Jan 29, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He made a few salient points
but to be fair, he glossed over anything perceived as negative as well.
EG may be in good graces with Tom Hicks and his DMN superiors may be pleased but he cashed in a lot of journalistic credibility yesterday.
As mentioned yesterday, that’s the kind of shit that TR Sullivan would write.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And we have been told you will never be banned
But we will still bitch about you.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Jan 29, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dave Cameron via Rob Neyer on a possibly new market inefficiency
What will the next big inefficiency be? It’s impossible to predict, of course, but I have a guess – old players.
-snip-
Teams have become cautious with the contracts they give to aging players, not wanting to get burned paying too much to a guy who may end up not having anything left in the tank, but I feel like we’re passing the point of caution and shifting towards a market failure. If a guy is a good player at 35, you should not expect him to be useless at 36. Yes, you regress his projection for aging, but players who go from good-to-terrible in a single season are the exception, not the rule.
Given the contracts that quality older players have been settling for over the last few years, I think we may see teams in the market for value increasingly going for the graybeards.
by tyd3311 on Jan 29, 2010 9:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kind of a , well duh, moment
That article would have been with the curve about the time Abreu was signed last offseason. Right now everyone assumes the older guys are not going to get the kind of contracts they did a couple years ago. The pendulum has swung.
I think that the cycles of market inefficiencies are getting shorter. We may already be at a point where you can’t say that this year the market inefficiency is “x”. Too many teams are more savvy about value, and they will find specific players that may be undervalued for whatever reason as opposed to a “type” of player that is being undervalued. The shopping by most teams this winter seemed smarter to me than years past.
The MLBPA might try to say collusion, but I think teams are just getting smarter on average about value.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 29, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So Moneyball II
will chronicle Brian Sabean’s genius?
by Brett Perryman on Jan 29, 2010 9:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that'll make it easy for Beane to write the sequel
The first one was about himself, the second he’ll just have to cross the Bay.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Moneyball
There is an (unintentionally) funny column in the Boston Herald today, which rips the BoSox for caring more about these newfangled stats like OBP and UZR, rather than RBIs and fielding percentage that dumb teams like the Phillies and Yankees use and get to the World Series by using.
There is, of course, the requisite carping about Moneyball, and refers to Billy Beane as “the godfather of this con job.”
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really get his point anyway
the Red Sox signed Beltre, Scutaro and Cameron. All plus defenders, but it’s not as though they don’t carry a bat to the plate. The guy is an idiot.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 29, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Did that writer miss the two World Series titles Boston won this past decade using those newfangled stats?
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
by RCCook on Jan 29, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Borges = poor man's Murray Chass
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 29, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Judging by Billy Beane's actions
his next big inefficiency is Pitchers who didn’t pitch anywhere last year.
Ben Sheets, Justin Duchscherer, Joey Devine. Next he’ll be signing Mark Mulder…..
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jan 29, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WAY OT:
Been trying to figure this out; just as a little background, this text is from a girl that really likes me and I don’t so much feel the same way for, so being that I don’t want to lead her on, I don’t want to start some dialogue over text messaging with her, but can someone tell me what this means, please?
Her: “Edge of my seat for 8 months!! Can I guess what you’re doing next Tuesday…”
Me: “?”
Her: “Wow”
WTF?
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
just her the
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*just giver her the*
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the attempt, but I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
I really wanted some idea of what is going on this Tuesday?
Movies, music and videogames come out on Tuesdays, but there’s no movies I’m dying to buy, she’s not really into music or videogames… So weird.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S IT
God, thank you! We both love that show!
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
The LSB Problem Solving Crew.
by bhudson on Jan 29, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even blind squirrels find nuts.
And if you have a large group of blind squirrels, the chances go up.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your're most welcome
Lost of enthusiasm for it around my house.
by other_shoe on Jan 29, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Lord, I see the answer all the way up here a the top and think
“That was nice of him to help him out. Time to move on…” Then I scroll down and realize the dialoge for this dilemna takes up half the thread. LSB is some helpful sons of bitches.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
by AceJC on Jan 29, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just tell her to get lost and that you're not interested.
That simple.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
by txhc on Jan 29, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of common friends
and she honestly is a sweet girl. No need to be rude; also no need to get into a drawn out text message discussion and make her think I’m interested.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you aren't that interested in her
Bang her, then don’t call her for a week, then take her out, bang her, rinse, repeat. (guarentee after 3 weeks she’ll move on)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jan 29, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's how I worked it with Mrs. Dorothy Mantooth.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and if she doesn't
then at least you have a once a week booty call.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jan 29, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see that in a movie once?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 29, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but like you said you don't wanna lead her on.
If you’re not interested you should just tell her. You don’t have to be rude about it. Just let her know where you stand. Only problem is she’ll probably just end up wanting you more, lol. Girls are weird.
Gay for many Rangers prospects.
by txhc on Jan 29, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"If you’re not interested you should just tell her. You don’t have to be rude about it."
Next time you text or speak with her, cut it short by telling her that you have to run to pick your girlfriend up. That gets the point across without the personal rejection of telling her you’re not interested.
by swampdonkey on Jan 29, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, nice.
Gay for many Rangers prospects.
by txhc on Jan 29, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe she thinks you're a groundhog?
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 29, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Take her to the Newberg party and have OC slip her a mickey or something.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Main question: is she hot?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing no since Pants isn't biting on the advances.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very good looking gal.
Very, very sweet girl, too.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You you call her a gal
that mean she’s probably not hot
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
by sprite on Jan 29, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
she has a nice personality
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
She's pretty hot.
I think the term “gal” is classy. Better than saying “broad.”
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
before she was my wife
she almost broke up with me for referring to her as a broad. I kept doing it, and i think that’s what made her mad… but she hates it.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I refer to my wife as my "ol' lady"
it’s a term of endearment not meant to demean her in any way…she hates it and now that I’ve seen it written down it is quite piggish.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You should have her watch Sons of Anarchy
Being someone’s ol’ lady is the goal for women in that show.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jan 29, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never call chicks broads
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jan 29, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, bitches hate that.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
by JBP on Jan 29, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
lol
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, try using "dame"
That’s old-fashioned and classy!
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
by RCCook on Jan 29, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that
I always end up saying broad because I get a kick out of trying to guess which face I get back when they hear it. I’m gonna start mixing dame in there too though
by CS3 on Jan 29, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer Fraulein
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And I just spit my drink everywhere.
Thanks.
Oh and rec’d.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
by txhc on Jan 29, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what they hate even worse?
When they pull a bit of the ol’ nag, respond with a “Yes Dear.”
They HATE that. But it gets the point across.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
by Brian Thomas on Jan 29, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
Couple questions:
Is she a family friend?
Are you in the same year and degree plan and have a bunch of classes together?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a 30 year old attorney.
No more classes for this guy, ever. Still have nightmares about law school, though. True story. Pretty sure AJM does, too.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I second that, except the nightmares relate more to the bar exam and the weeks leading up to results
FP, where are you practicing? You’re an Ag, aren’t you?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Aggie
Practicing in Downtown Dallas.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mind if I shoot you an email off LSB?
I like to build as many Aggie lawyer connections as I can.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Are you kin to Casey?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FP
You overrate my feelings towards you.
You’re a mindless cheerleader that isn’t very smart when it comes to expressing meaningful opinions related to the Great Game.
Nothing more, nothing less.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there anyone on here
whose opinion you respect, or are we just a bunch of minions who should bow at the knee of Uncle Josey everytime he has something to say?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
I think Adam, Jamey (when he puts away the pom poms and the subject is not related to anything regarding JD / Tom Hicks) and mjh (when he’s not trying to convince the world this really is a mid-range baseball market) all know their stuff.
Adam will try to muddy up the water or put words in your mouth you never said (typical attorney bullshit) to distract the witness during a discussion and is prone to taking his ball and going home when he’s getting his ass handed to him but all in all, I know I better bring my A Game with him.
Jparks and Joey over at BBTIA are both very sharp.
A few others have their moments from time to time but lack overall consistency or can never put away the pom poms.
I do like to read Big Ed Coffin’s takes because he’s a good writer but there is also a high element of What The Fuck Is He Really Trying to say with some of his Old School dissertations.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pot? Kettle?
and is prone to taking his ball and going home when he’s getting his ass handed to him
Black?
by cstorm15 on Jan 29, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's racist.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
by AceJC on Jan 29, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
I also like how that post can be translated to say "basically except for those who own/contribute to blogs, I’m the only one with an intelligent opinion.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't reply to everything
because sometimes I don’t see them, sometimes the people in the discussion are more interested in insults than advancing the discussion , sometimes the discussion has run it’s course or sometimes the discussion is in a rabbit hole unworthy of my time.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"sometimes the people in the discussion are more interested in insults than advancing the discussion , sometimes the discussion has run it’s course or sometimes the discussion is in a rabbit hole unworthy of my time."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You’re more responsible for those three things than the rest of LSB put together.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unworthy of your time
I can’t imagine how much time you spend on here to suggest that answering simple direct questions in threads you hijack would warrant too much of your time.
You provide nothing of substance.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 29, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The best thing about this post
is you are completely serious.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All these SMU lawyers running around.
Glad I’m not the only one (or going to be the only one).
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
For a while, about every couple of weeks, I’d have a dream where I was a third year and didn’t know what time my final exam was, or it turned out I was a credit or two short and wasn’t going to be allowed to sit for the bar, or something like that.
Every once in a while it would be high school, or college, and I’d have too many absences to graduate or I’d have missed a test or didn’t know when a test was because I never went to class, but usually it is law school.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is one of two varieties:
1) I have not been to the class one single time all semester and I panic that I know nothing,
2) I have forgotten that the test is that day and I’m not at all prepared.
I literally have to wake up and reassure myself that I am no longer in school, I no longer have homework, and I don’t have to ever take a test again.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See
My dreams aren’t about being prepared…apparently, I’m so inherently arrogant, even subconsciously I think I can b.s. my way through any test.
My dreams are about not knowing when the exam is (and I missed multiple exams in college, resulting in "F"s in those classes, because I got the exam date wrong) or getting dropped for too many absences.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny...
….mine are always of the “I don’t know what the fuck is going on in this class” variety. I think it’s because I railed against studying so, so much in college and law school. College I could get away with doing no studying….not so much in law school.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My first year of law school...
…I made the decision that I was really, truly going to study, for pretty much the first time in my life.
My undergrad GPA at UT was barely above 2.0 because I put no effort in, and I felt like this was a chance to sort of prove, if only to myself, I could get good grades if I wanted.
So I buckled down, worked my ass off first year, and ended up ranked in the top 10 of my entire entering class.
Then I was like, okay, I proved my point, and put it in cruise control the rest of the way, with my GPA dropping accordingly.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
First year? Dean’s list. Graduating? Barely top half. My paycheck proves it.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering how much slant there is toward people who do really well in their first years, particulary their first semesters...
You might have been better off.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't buy an interview being top quarter.
Therein is the genesis for my complete turnaround in work ethic.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I came out of first year in the top quarter and had the same problem
So I understand your position. At least you weren’t graduating this May, like some of us poor souls.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I CALI’d (highest grade) one class at Tech and it was last spring, my last semester. It was a seminar class and I never once opened the book nor did I try to compete with the obnoxious environmentalist gunners to talk in class. But 70% of the grade was a paper and I decided to CALI it just to prove I could.
The paper was 10,000 words minimum. I cranked out 15,000 on a unique topic that was far more entertaining than the dead horse topics everyone else chose. I know the gunners were pissed when they saw I beat them.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My first year I figured I was just smarter than everyone and didn't do that much
Got horrible grades. Next semester I studied my ass off to the point classmates said I studied more than anyone else. Same grades. To this day I don’t think there’s anonymous grading. A guy that was top ten told me later that in one class he had to get 104% on the final to get an A in the class. He got an A
So I went back to a medium level of effort.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree.
I pissed off the Dean of my Law School by telling him that grading was too subjective and inconsistent. One prof wants to see that you can issue spot and apply the rule of law. Another just wants to see if you can regurgitate the rules of law they taught you during the semester. He took exception to my assessment. But hey, if he didn’t want my opinion, he shouldn’t have asked.
by Topgun22 on Jan 29, 2010 12:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You've heard the "throw the exams down the stairs" analogy, right?
I’m pretty sure that’s how it works.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here, but with med school
I also had a gap between undergrad and med school, so I had time to grow up a bit. Unfortunately, the class I entered with has ended up being the best class A&M has had possibly ever, so it didn’t ever show up in class rank…which was a bummer.
It did, however, show up on Step1 scores, where our class’s average was 10 points higher (on a 160-280 scale) than previous classes. My score ended up being good, but I have had a few dreams about taking it again…they are not pleasant. I imagine this will happen once I get into the clinics and start getting pimped also.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm taking Step 1 in June
Any suggestions?
Oh and to stay on topic, I did really well on my MCAT but even now I’ll still have the occasional nightmare about it. Maybe it was because I literally had no clue what the first three questions were on the test and I was on pins and needles the rest of the exam, but there was something about that test that just really stayed with me.
by TRanger on Jan 29, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds similar to my experience on the second day of the bar exam
That day, for non-lawyers/law students, is a six-hour, 200 question multiple-choice exam over general topics like contract, constitutional, property, and tort law. When you first look at a question, none of the four answer choices can be eliminated. This thing is nightmarish and the average person misses about 75 questions.
I got through the first 20 questions and started wondering what I was going to do for a living after I failed this thing. I was confident on none of them.
Things got a little better, but I would say that, out of 200, I was confident in probably 25 of my answers.
And yet, I made a score right about the median.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's by multi-state story
I’m cruising along and on question 155. I go to put down my answer and saw I was filling in the bubble for question 156. So I had to go back through every question from #1 on to check and make sure I put in the right answer (I didn’t circle them in the book, just in filled in the bubble on the form). Turns out I had worked on 148, filled in the bubble, changed my mind and filled in the bubble for 149 instead of erasing 148. Took about 15 minutes to do that, ran out of time and randomly filled in the last 10 answers.
Freaked me out for months but it turned out I got a really good multi state score.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the story of my life, word for word
Slack ass at UT doing just enough to graduate.
Studied as a 1L, then cruised to my J.D.
by Topgun22 on Jan 29, 2010 12:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Recently, mine are about having to go back to high school
and even as an adult not being able to call BS on the half-assed approach to history and English. I guess that puts me in the arrogant camp too.
by other_shoe on Jan 29, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My lawyer nightmares
I’m going to trial and notice that I hadn’t taken a deposition or done any discovery and barely understand what the case is even about and have no witnesses lined out. Horrible nightmare.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, you're 30 now, that's when my conscience started working also....
I’ve thought about going to law school in the not so distant future…guess I’ll take these comments into consideration.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!
Okay, that’s not totally accurate advice, but I felt obligated to say it anyway.
But in all seriousness, think about why it is you want to go to law school. If you think it’s a quick ticket to wealth or you think the added degree will make you more marketable, I’d caution you against it.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so what is the right reason to get a law degree?
sue people?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't sue anyone.
My clients do.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
obviously, it was poor attempt at a joke
My wife has considered Law school for some time now, I’d like to hear y’all’s points of view as to what the right reason to go to law school is.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There are a variety of "right" reasons, I just wanted to point out some terrible reasons
Some people go to law school because they have dreamed of being a lawyer their whole life, can’t get enough Law & Order, etc. I knew quite a few people in law school who fit that mold, and that’s a good reason, but that wasn’t me.
I went to law school because I had some particular circumstances and opportunity that would make lawyering worthwhile. That and the fact that a legal background jives with some other entrepreneurial interests and ambitions that I have.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much my reasoning as well.
Whatever you decide, don’t do it because you want to “change the world.” I know a ton of people that came with that in mind and had their souls crushed.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No joke, I knew several people who had that mindset
It was quite disheartening for them to learn that they couldn’t change the world on whatever pet public interest topic they had and afford to eat.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the reality check...I'll stick to current plans.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you...
But there are just so many bright-eyed incoming law students who think they will definitely be the next Denny Crane and will definitely get that big firm job paying $200k out of the gate, or that every firm operates like the one from the Practice, or that every case is ultra-sexy with incredible drama, or that they will change the world.
There is a reason that law students and lawyers have such ridiculously high alcoholism/depression rates.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, Denny Crane...so you don't hang out on a balcony sucking down 18 year old Scotch and Cuban cigars?
I know no one is trying to discourage me man, didn’t think that at all.
I never thought I would make a lot of money doing it, wasn’t really the point in doing it.
I would honestly go nuts with all the reading.
I’ll stick with helping the depressed alcoholics…you lawyers remember me will ya? Should be licensed in a few years :) $200/hr, 15% OFF IF YOU MENTION LSB.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The "change the world" people
You mean the polisci majors that won’t shut up during con-law? Or the people who talk about whether a decision is “fair” or not? I loved those people.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the philosophy majors spouting off about natural law.
My experience has actually been with the “save the world through environmental law” people, and the “America can’t afford to tell the rest of the world to F off” people with international law aspirations.
I actually know a guy who came in wanting to be an environmental crusader … it lasted until he got his offer from Patton Boggs.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The wrong one is for a paycheck
You have to be interested in the law and what you do or you’ll burn out. People that think it’s easy money and/or they didn’t know what else to do after undergrad don’t make it.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
The simplest answer to that question is that you want to go into a profession which requires a law degree.
For most people, that’s being a lawyer.
The question then is, why do you want to be a lawyer?
I did it because I worked in a law office while I was in undergrad, decided it was interesting work I’d be well suited for, and I there wasn’t anything else out there I had a burning desire to do.
I tell anyone interested in going to law school that they should, if they can, try to work while in college for a law firm, so they can get a better idea about what the work is from day to day.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's very good advice
I did not do it myself, but I spend enough time talking to attorneys who shot me straight that I had a good idea what I was getting into.
As one of them told me (and you learn this working in a law office), lawyering is not just “arguing” like lay people tend to think. It tends to be lots of reading and writing and if you don’t like those things you don’t need to be a lawyer.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, guys
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
AJM has some great advice – make absolutely sure you know what you are getting into before you sign up for the ole student loans.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
As one of them told me (and you learn this working in a law office), lawyering is not just "arguing" like lay people tend to think. It tends to be lots of reading and writing and if you don’t like those things you don’t need to be a lawyer.
Yep. People who go to law school because they like to argue need to go do something else.
Most of my time is spent reading stuff, writing stuff, meeting with clients, or talking to people on the phone.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Arguing is not a beneficial skill
Public speaking, persuasive writing, researching and some people skills are what’s required.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I look for in a lawyer
Bill: At my cousin Ruthie’s wedding, the groom’s brother was that guy Alakazam. You know who I’m talking about?
Stan: The magician with the ponytail?
Bill: Right. Well, he did his act, and every time he made something disappear, Vinny jumped on him. I mean, he nailed him! It was like, it’s in his pocket, or he’s palming it, you know? Or, there’s a mirror under the table. I mean, he was like, he was like, wait a second, wait a second, it’s joined in the middle, and there’s a spring around it, it pops it open when it’s inside the tube. It was like Alakazam’s worst nightmare. Vinny was just being Vinny. He was just being the quintessential Gambini.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a good profession for people who like to argue?
Blogger?
Reality show contestant?
Political pundit?
Customer service representative on Apple’s iPod warranty repair line?
Whatever it is that Josey does?
by cstorm15 on Jan 29, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Liking to argue != being good at it.
Though I guess even those that do it for a living aren’t necessarily good.
So I’ll go with internet message board hero.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can always be on Sports Shouting
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by rlb02a on Jan 29, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To chase tail?
I went to law school because I graduated with a degree in aerospace engineering and knew I didn’t want to spend the rest of my career in a cube. Plus, engineering wasn’t a good match for my skill set. I was an adequate engineer, but I was an even better writer. Also, to echo meno’s point, I worked in a law office during college as a legal courier.
That said, given the number of unemployed lawyers right now, I’d say you need five things to go to law school: (1) the desire to study 24/7 your first year of law school to make sure you’re in the top 10%; (2) a post-graduation employment plan where you make enough money to offset the expense of law school and the loss of income for those three years; (3) a backup plan incase #2 doesn’t work out; (4) another backup plan, just in case; and (5) an acceptance letter to a Tier 1/2 university.
Before going to law school, I read Planet Law School. It’s a little over the top, but it will put you in the right mindset to do well your first year.
by cstorm15 on Jan 29, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're committed to being at the top of your class, you can probably still make most top 100 schools work
I’m trying not to be too elitist.
by cstorm15 on Jan 29, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of it depends on where you're trying to land
If you’re trying to land at biglaw/big metropolitan area, yeah you need really good grades.
But it’s not true to say you will be unemployed unless you’ve got really good grades. Specific skill set, interest in a unique practice area, or geographical connections will treat you just fine.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's where the math comes in
You don’t have to be top 10% to find a job, but you have to ask whether the job you find makes sense economically considering you lose three years of salary to go to law school and you have to pay for tuition and expenses. If you do that calculation and realize that going to law school may be a losing proposition (whether in the short term or in the law school), you then have to decide on a personal level whether you truly have a passion for the law.
Actually, in my limited experience, if you’re putting any legitimate analysis into post-law school life that rises above the level of daydreaming, then you’re probably doing more than a large percentage of law students, and you’ll be just fine. Going to law school is a big decision, and it’s important to have all the information you need.
by cstorm15 on Jan 29, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree totally
Problem is, too many go to law school with their eye on the 160K biglaw job. But there are only a limited number of those jobs to go around and lots and lots of smart, talented people who want them. Seems like a lot of people never consider supply & demand until it’s too late and they didn’t get a single OCI interview.
Then they blame their law school’s career services.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, SMU's OCS sucks.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't even qualify as "talk"
as much as it does good old fashioned angst.
I get crap from Big Ed Coffin for telling the LSB world (with only one post) that my Brandon McCarthy projection was nails but Law School What Should I Do Drivel flies by without comment?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 30, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tale of two people
My friend was top 10 with a great resume as an aid in DC before going to law school, got a big salary in a big firm in a big city. Carried a briefcase for someone else for two years, hated it, decided to transfer to one of their smaller sattelite offices. Still didn’t like it. Now he does compliance for some company.
I was bottom third but did very well in competitions. Got a job for an insurance defense firm. Got a lot of experience in a few years and moved to another, larger firm that paid better and does lots of corporate work but needed someone to do litigation and admin contested case hearings. I’m still actively practicing law and am happy with it while my friend is more on the fringe of the law.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as a person in law school
i don’t know if that’s true. you have to be like top 5 people in your class – or basically get in good with a professor – to make sure you aren’t working in a <60K job. But the word is Texas is a better market right now.
by ab03 on Jan 29, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know a guy who graduated from Boalt Hall
has a job that sounds riveting even to this layman, and he seems to want to blow his head off workwise.
But I guess that’s a different part of the whether-to-lawyer debate.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Jan 29, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another good book.
The Destruction of Young Lawyers, by Litowitz.
http://www.amazon.com/Destruction-Young-Lawyers-Politics-Society/dp/1931968314
Crespi made us read it in our first year. Talk about a wake-up call.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See im also thinking about going into
law school after im done with the my MBA and MS (accounting) and pass the CPA exam (all of this will be done withing 2 years). Honestly, the reason i want to do it is that have a law degree would be quite advantageous for what i ultimately plan on doing. Most ppl who do what i want to have a background in accounting and law (usually a CPA and a lawyer).
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 29, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know a guy that's a CPA with a JD
He’s a real estate developer.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Jan 29, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CPA/JD is a good combo
One of the attorneys who advised me about law school (and who I clerked for after my 1L year) is a CPA and an attorney and was an attorney for the IRS for a few years straight out of law school. He has his pick of the estate/probate work in Abilene.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For me
it would be to do a few things in the financial world. Well not just a few but several things. I work in finance and a lot of the upper management has their background in law not finance. Plus if i do decide to go full bore into public accounting having a JD is HUGE.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 29, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I look at a ton of P&Ls and Balance Sheets, etc.
So being an accountant would be very beneficial.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
i really think the two professions (accounting and law) are very intertwined.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 29, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really just want to go into court one day dressed as a caveman..
..that would kill.
In all seriousness, it would open bigger doors for a couple of things I’m rather passionate about…one being baseball, the other being enforcement of the ADA.
But in all reality, I have a working wife and a 20 month old son, it would be an uphill battle seeing I can barely get through the required readings of my current Masters program.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Caveman lawyer?
Gotta love the SNL skit ha
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 29, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree completely.
People think they can cruise to a job at a big firm and just rake in the cash.
You can’t.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there is the alternate hypothesis that Pants is just stupid
But yeah, that’s a fair point.
She could also be hot, but crazy, and not sufficiently hot enough to overcome the craziness on the Vicky Mendoza Hot-Crazy Scale, from How I Met Your Mother.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is she prettier than Kim Kardashian
or for that matter, Joan Jett?
by cmkelly29 on Jan 29, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kim Kardashian
very hot.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow you go away for a few weeks and alot of shit happens
Kept up with it with my phone but wasn’t about to try and leave comments given where I was and my time constraints.
Glad the deal with Greenbergs group has gone through. Much like Hicks did when he first bought the team, hopefully this group will inject some much needed money and energy into the organization and fanbase. Hopefully however this front office won’t make the same mistakes the other front office made by giving out horrendous contracts to bad players.
Overall I give Hicks as an owner a C-. He gets good marks from me for the last few years signing off on a plan to rebuild this franchise from the bottom up and investing in the draft and our minor leagues to the point now where we have a top 3 farm system the last couple of years and if you had to guess right now even with some graduations we will be a top 5 next year as well. That is the ultimate recipe for success is to have such a stocked pipeline to give you the financial flexibility to sign others. Obviously he had his faults but I agree with Evans piece from a couple days ago that he shouldn’t be scolded so much. Do people have the right to be pissed with him…yeah no question. But if you can’t see some of the positive things he did then you have blinders on. We could have had a much worse owner these past 10+ years than Tom Hicks.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jan 29, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome back to civilization
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jan 29, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like, for example, this franchise's first three owners
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
Griffey is RIPPED AND READY FOR 2010!!!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 9:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
40 year old with knee problems who hit .214 last year
is penciled in as their DH?
yikes…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that would be monumentally stupid
because they would then have to play MB in the field. Bradley won’t last long that way, and Griffey is done.
I like this decision right now
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I'd love the see them try to roll that out there for 162
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which Rangers are slated for FanFest tomorrow?
I heard CJ won’t be there because he was notified too late (for the 2nd year in a row). And I think I heard Lewin will be there. But other than that, I’m struggling to find a semi-official list.
A friend is taking her son out there and she asked me if I had heard who was going to be there. I got nothin’.
by Hard8 on Jan 29, 2010 9:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I saw something last night
That the Rangers had pulled Elvis out of winter ball because he will be at Fan Fest…if so I’m super stoked about it!
by texasrfan on Jan 29, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I think TexasRangers.com will have official schedule and names out some time today.
by Hard8 on Jan 29, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Linky
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Jan 29, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone really go for the weight lifting seminars?
Someone needs to go in a LSB tank top and throw some 45’s around.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Jackson Jeffcoat Signs with Texas
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That is a big signing for them.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jan 29, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet
he just committed since he can’t sign until Wed.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he
is a pure pass rushing aggressive DE, he made the right choice choosing UT over OU.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't signed
Can’t until next week. He committed verbally.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And now Jordan Hicks from Ohio
Rivals’ best LB recruit I think. Definitely a 5 star. I think he had Ohio State, Florida and Texas as his final 3. 2 top 20 players added to your list in 90 minutes….that ain’t bad.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was just a matter of time for both of them.
Jeffcoat never wanted to go out of state, but couldn’t go to Houston.
Hicks was a little more surprising, I remember a ton of contact between him and tOSU early in the process.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a surprise
typical UT recruiting class. Now, can they actually utilize the talent to win is the big question out of Austin every year…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been a while since UT had a huge splash late in the recruiting season, though.
They normally lock their class up early and then coast.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
but these are exceptions to that rule. Any team in their right mind is going to hold a scholarship for a player like Jeffcoat if they think they have even the slightest chance of getting him.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...
Colt McCoy just set the record for most wins by a college QB. That’s certainly not a terrible follow up to a National Championship.
They have gone 45-8 over the past 4 years with 2 BCS bowl appearances.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware
but if you have the top ranked recruiting class every year, why have you averaged 2 losses a season over the last 4 years?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ask USC.
Or Florida. Or Ohio State. Recruiting matters, but it’s not the only thing that makes a difference. It’s just like prospects in baseball.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Florida
bad example. 2 NC in the last 4 years and one unispired performance from a 3rd. But, you are right and backing up what I said. I said UT always has the best recruiting class, now can they win with those guys? The other factors were what I was referencing.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoot, ask A&M.
They’ve averaged top-20 classes for the last decade (with a few top-10 classes) and haven’t done jack.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fran's best classes were an illusion
They were propped up with kids who were paper tigers or who never made it to campus.
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Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the Chuck Reedy approach.
Nice.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Grade risks, JUCO fill-ins, etc.
Frans rankings were definitely overblown. Sherman’s however…
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When you look at the recruiting job Sherman has done, considering the last 7 years of Aggie football
Just think what he’s going to do with a few good years under his belt.
It’s nice to not have to talk yourself into approving of sleepers and slow white guys.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally....
….I am not sure Sherman is capable of fielding a 10 win team. He is a great recruiter, but to say I’m skeptical on him is an understatement. I am straight up against the guy being our head coach.
by FuturePants on Jan 29, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting you say that, because people were concerned when he arrived that recruiting would be his Achilles heel
I’m a big Sherman believer because I like the guy a lot (whereas I despised Fran), but I agree the jury’s still out. This year will be critical. I like the kind of kids he’s recruiting and I like his offense, but we’ve absolutely got to improve on the penalties and special teams stupidity and we need to take a step forward on defense (at least be consistent on that side).
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
Though those other schools I’ve mentioned actually put talent through to the NFL, which A&M has gotten progressively worse at through the Fran era. I feel like that’s the biggest indictment on his coaching tenure, that he could take such highly rated high school players and they would mainly get drafted on their athletic potential as opposed to their college resume.
How can A&M think of itself as on the level with UT and OU for high school players when you compare those 2 schools ability to develop their players for the NFL (Draft) is beyond me…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fran's problem was a complete lack of offensive linemen.
Mind boggling that he only recruited something like four offensive linemen during his tenure.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And quite a few of the ones still on campus have been passed on the depth charts by fish
Just awful.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fran's return-on-talent was abhorrent
Three five-star super-stud recruits while he was there. One gets kicked off the team, one is a pro-style QB with mobility that he ruins by turning into an option QB, and another gets underutilized his whole career before jetting for the NFL.
Less than a full season with Sherman and McGee’s draft stock soars. What Sherman could have done with Fran’s offensive talent sickens me.
Don’t get me started.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
As much as I hate A&M, I felt that they did have a proper disrespect for Fran after the first year or so. It’s something we can all come together on.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I won't say that Mack coasts to 10 win seasons
But it seems like he’s figured out that he’s such a great recruiter (and Texas is such a good school to recruit for) that he doesn’t have to be a great X’s and O’s guy, nor does he even have to hire great X’s and O’s guys. His talent level is so good that he’s going to win at least 10 games without getting the most out of his talent.
A coach who got the most out of his talent, combined with Mack’s recruiting ability, would probably lose about one game every three years.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Mack isn't a great X's and O's guy.
But Muschamp seems to be pretty good at his job and is not the first big-name D-Coordinator they’ve pursued and gone to great lengths to keep.
Still, recruiting is part of the game and it’s not like top 3 recruiting classes just fall in their laps. Sure, they’re always going to have an easier go of it than Tech or Baylor, and even have advantages against OU or A&M, but it’s taken time and talent to get to their perennial February success.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly I'm not a fan of Musch because I think he's a d-bag
But I think he’s overrated as a DC. He made his name working under two head coaches who were defensive geniuses themselves (Saban and Tuberville) and at schools with first-tier talent. He parlayed that into a job at a school with even better talent. He’s had good defenses at Texas, but if you’re a Texas DC, with that talent, if your defenses aren’t good you’re underachieving.
In that way, I think he’s a better version of Chizik. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Musch sucks as a DC but I don’t think he’s God’s gift to defense either. I don’t know that he gets the best out of his talent, but he doesn’t really have to.
I don’t understand the coach-in-waiting thing. I don’t think he’s got the maturity or management abilities to be boss at what is one of the top 3-5 jobs in the nation.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see that, but disagree.
I think he’s better than you’re letting on, though he does seem to be a bit overrated. It seems he has turned UT’s defense from one of those “great against bad offenses, crappy against good offenses” to one that’s legitimately one of the top defenses year-in, year-out. Also, he’s part of the reason they’re able to consistently recruit such highly-ranked defensive prospects.
While I don’t think he would have been a good hire for HC after his first year or two, I could see him learning enough from Mack over the past and next few years to master the necessary skills. Mainly, I think he’ll need to learn to reign in his emotions some. Fiery coaches are great and all, but HC’s have to deal with angry alumni without blowing up.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your assessment of his learning how to be a HC, right now he doesn't seem to have it
Admittedly, I look through a prism of negativity at his on-field results. However, the one truly great offense he faced this year smoked him and had him befuddled on Thanksgiving night..
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
So he had one bad game against a team that surprised him, not a huge indictment. I think Jerrod surprised them at how well he could pass against the UT secondary and it subsequently wreaked havoc on what they were trying to do. It’s tough to tell for sure how good they were this past year though, with the Big12 being down, their weak non-conference schedule, and Alabama going so conservative in a big chunk of the NC game.
A&M should be interesting next year. Looks like they’ve got QB, RB, WR, and pass rusher figured out, which is more than you can say for many Aggie teams of the past decade. I’m curious to see how their offensive and defensive lines work out next year, but I think it’s the first time in a while that they will be a lot closer to UT and OU than Baylor in the Big 12 South.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Texas didn't play a lot of explosive offenses so it's tough to get a good read
I hope you’re right about next year. That’s my thought too but I’m perennially optimistic. OL should be a lot better because of the talent level coming in. Joeckel enrolled mid-term and I’ll be surprised if he’s not a reliable starter by Big 12 play. Matthews and Ogbuehi are good enough to probably contribute too, not to mention that last year’s freshman (Barrera/Scales) should be an improvement on what we had to work with this year. That’s not a knock against the 2009 OL, but most of those guys were just beat-up journeymen who were giving all they had.
DL is a question mark. We’re still light on depth there, with some helpful commits in this year’s class. Hopefully the new DC and new DL coach will help in that regard, too.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
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by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I hope not.
=)
I was impressed with Baylor’s class for cracking the top 50 as I had been hoping for the past 3-4 years now, but I was concerned about it being light at a place of huge need: D-line. They always seem to be able to get decent prospects at the speedy positions and had added the ability to get quality O-linemen under Guy Morris. In the past couple days, they’ve added/stolen a few D-linemen and have moved into much closer to 40 accord to Rivals. So maybe we can keep this BU-A&M thing competitive…though hopefully with better games every year instead of just blowing each other out.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another Baylor fan on here, nice.
We are a lonely breed.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How's Griffin's injury?
Goddamn shame, that was…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be good to go by the start of spring practice.
Ran last week for the first time since the injury, supposed to do sprints next week, lateral movement the week after that.
He says he’ll be 100% by the start of spring practice.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's good, man
I love me some Big XII football (I honestly have no affiliation, being a UNT grad), and I want to see him get better and better the next few years. Exciting player.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's crazy how much impact that one play had on our program.
Good lord.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What about getting some players around him?
Catch me up on the Baylor recruiting scene.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Focus this season has been almost exclusively on defense.
The achilles heel of Baylor’s defense since the departure of Daryl Gardener has always been defensive tackles. We haven’t recruited a quality defensive tackle since I was in middle school. That’s why teams have absolutely abused us on the ground for years.
This year we have the top-ranked DB class in the conference, quite a few quality DE recruits and at least two or three DT recruits coming in for visits this weekend (in addition to two we already have) that could probably compete for playing time next year.
Offense won’t be the problem with a Briles-coached team, so we need to get better on defense.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just as an aside.
In case anybody accuses me of doing so, I’m not saying that Baylor would have been world-beaters had Griffin not been injured or anything like that.
But 6-6 and a bowl game would have been perfectly reasonable to expect, particularly considering how close the Iowa State, Nebraska, and Tech games ended up being with our third string QB.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tech didn't play their best
QB v Baylor either.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 30, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, watch out for two DTs who are visiting this weekend.
Tanielu from Hawaii and Watson from Fla.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome, will do.
It seems like D-line is the last area of weakness as far as recruiting goes. Maybe RB, too. But they’ve shown they can recruit OL, DB, and WR for long enough now that I trust them.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on RB, which is a huge point of contention on Baylor's rivals board.
Some people say we don’t need to recruit a big-time RB because there are so many from Texas next year (possibly 4 5* RBs in Texas alone next season, along with a metric shitton of 4*s), but I’m worried about what we have behind Finley this coming season. Neither Gannaway nor Salubi inspired a lot of confidence in me.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, I haven't been inspired by a Texas RB in about 5 years
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you staying Texas Longhorn running back or prep running back from Texas?
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Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
saying*
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, UT RBs
shoulda been clearer
Obviously the State of Texas produces
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering the talent they've been able to get at the position (based on recruiting rankings)
I can see where you’re coming from.
BTW, absolute travesty that Oregon managed to get the top two RBs from Texas this season, Seastrunk and Williams.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
Hey, good strong College FB talk. I didn’t expect that today, but I guess that’s why I come to LSB
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It may seem odd from a Baylor fan...
But I am a rabid when it comes to CFB recruiting.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Texas has gotten by without a stud RB for sure
As for the state as a whole, I’m looking at the Rivals 100 lists from the last five years right now and there have been some underwhelming RBs on that list.
Texas A&M has fared better than anyone recruiting Texas backs. Goodson was productive albeit slightly disappointing (I blame that on Fran), while Cyrus and C-Mike are a game-changing duo.
Other than that you’ve got Emmanuel Moody, Vondrell McGee, Desean Hales, Lennon Creer, and Jermie Calhoun. That’s an underwhelming set of NCAA backs. I guess the jury is still out on Calhoun because he’s just now a rising sophomore, but man, not a star-studded bunch.
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Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lennon Creer was good as a true fish, not sure what happened to him after that.
You can probably throw Sam McGuffie into that list along with the kid who transferred to SMU this past season from out of state.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How could we both forget about LaMichael James?
He’s a stud up at Oregon.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Creer actually left the Tennessee program last year, I think he saw the handwriting with Bryce Brown on his way in
I assume he transferred somewhere but I’m not sure where.
Didn’t think about McGuffie and James as neither of them made the Rivals 100. Texas actually took 2 RBs rated higher than James (Hales and Jeremy Hills). James’s offer list is fairly pedestrian, yet he ended up Pac 10 Offensive Freshman of the Year. Cyrus is the only RB ranked ahead of him who could remotely be called a college success thus far.
Just goes to show recruiting rankings are, oftentimes, a crampshoot.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
But I think the majority of times, the recruiting services are correct. People like to point out the big misses, like Jason Smith (OT from Baylor picked number 2 overall last year), but they are the vast minority of cases.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I agree
I don’t think it’s fair to say recruiting rankings are irrelevant, like some do. Specific kids get missed, good and bad, but as a whole, five stars have a pretty decent shot of success, four stars, a little less, and so on.
Recruiting and MLB prospects have a lot of similarities. Measurables are important, higher touted kids have a higher chance of success. But major busts happen and its impossible to predict how some kids will react at the next level of competition and with the other extracurriculars surrounding them. And diamonds in the rough get overlooked and become great stories down the road.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anything new on Scotty Young? Anyone?
by tyd3311 on Jan 29, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
read in the local paper he's staying with Tech.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will, too.
Mildly surprising, considering Tubberville’s lack of offensive genius.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This whole stink with Galloway makes me respect Evan Grant that much more
As somebody stated above, if you can’t admit there’s a middle ground, then you’re overreacting. I personally would not have given Hicks as much wiggle room as Grant did, but the fact that he gives him any at all shows that he’s look at the situation objectively.
I almost feel like RG is fishing for praise from overreactionary fans because he “spoke truth to power” or some other bullsh. The truth is almost never that black and white, but it seems like there are no shades of gray in Galloway’s world.
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by rlb02a on Jan 29, 2010 10:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I started Galloway's article
thinking I was going to enjoy his points about why Hicks was a bad owner. Then, I finished the article and remembered that Galloway never actually gives any evidence of why he feels the way he does. It felt rambling and poorly organized to me. Unfortunate because after the first couple of sentences I really thought it was going to be one of his better ones recently.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who knows Galloway...
…trust me: he doesn’t believe everything he says.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Jan 29, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway saying that the Rangers are worse than the Mavericks of the 90s
…what a joke. The same 11-71 Dallas Mavericks???
Hicks may not have been a good owner (he did bring the last sports championship to Dallas), but he hasn’t been the worst owner in the DFW area…Norm Green, prior Rangers owners, etc.
by RyanBlueThunder on Jan 29, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really enjoyed those Mavericks days
Hell, if you’re going to be awful, you might as well try for historically awful.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 29, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You must have also loved the '85 Rangers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jan 29, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I care a lot more about baseball
and the Rangers than I do about basketball.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 29, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting Tidbit
the 85 Rangers were the last time in franchise history that the team failed to win as many as 70 games (excluding strike years). They had done it 11 times prior to that year.
Also, this will be the 50th year of the franchise (dating back to the ’61 Senators)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jan 29, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering...
how many people read Galloway’s articles vs. how many people read LSB? I’d say it’s a 2:1 ratio but still…
by chrisR on Jan 29, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I read everything
papers, blogs, other teams’ blogs, analytical statistics, opinionated columnists, writers i hate, writers i like. but that’s just me
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah? That's cool and all, but I once took a dump...
and examined it for Rangers-related items after. Beat that, fuck-knuckle.
by cmkelly29 on Jan 29, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I examined someone else’s dump for Ranger related items…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I gave birth to Adam Morris, Jamey Newberg, and Jon Daniels...
by cmkelly29 on Jan 29, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
you win.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 29, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I fathered them.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jan 29, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but did you examine the afterbirth
for Ranger related items?
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Jan 29, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
make a nice stew of placenta and trade rumors?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Josey Wales?
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jan 29, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
frrrrrr.....rrrrrrr......rt
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jan 29, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HH interview with Sickels
Not entirely soul-crushing for them, but I got a giggle out of it.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jan 29, 2010 1:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hurleyhurley? Wow, didn't realize that guy was so important
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 29, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Hurley supposed to be throwing at camp today at the Ballpark?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Jan 29, 2010 1:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
flatground.
…just had one of those deja vu moments…
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it sounds like we need breathless reports of how awesome he looked
Followed soon by a note that his shoulder was sore afterwards
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, dammit, I hate replying to the bottom post in a thread
The cause of, like, seventy per cent of reply fails
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Jan 29, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy in that picture is throwing a no-hitter against the Blue Jays on the MLB Network right now.
by philkid3 on Jan 29, 2010 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
DON'T MENTION IT'S A NO HITTER!
We don’t want to jynx him
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha.
Well done.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bettis could join Rangers ownership group
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jan 29, 2010 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did you know he's from Detroit?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 29, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerome Bettis, he aint no head of lettuce!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jan 29, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he brings his
deep fried cheeseburger.
by Anonymous New Guy on Jan 29, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees don't believe in a farm system
They’ve traded it away for a $200 mil + roster and a W.S. ring. Damn I hate the effing Yanks.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
by R Derff on Jan 29, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Yanks farm system
They haven’t really dealt that many pieces of it the past few years.
In the Granderson trade, they dealt Austin Jackson, who is well regared, and Ian Kennedy. But Kennedy they sold low on, refusing to deal him the previous couple of years (he was supposedly “untouchable” when the Rangers were talking to them about Teixeira).
They held on to Hughes and Chamberlain, and still have Jesus Montero.
Particularly over the last few years, Cashman has put an emphasis on trying to develop more guys from within.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 29, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever happened to Andrew Brackman?
by tyd3311 on Jan 29, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kickin' some azz in A-ball
2W 12L 5.91 ERA
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jan 29, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought they did a pretty good job
…considering how many free agents they sign and how that limits their ability to draft.
by Black Francis on Jan 29, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Cashman has put some emphasis
on building from within. And I do like the Montero kid to take over for Posada. But Jeter’s the next to replace and I don’t see anyone in line for that. Might be the SS down in FL. to take that role in classic Yankee form, BIG CONTRACT.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
by R Derff on Jan 29, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I meant bringing on his big contract through trade
A little dazed last night.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
by R Derff on Jan 30, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
imagine that
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 30, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or does Nolan look like yoda in that pic
by thedudeabides on Jan 29, 2010 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
right you are.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Jan 29, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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