Early Cowboy Eagles thread
by Sharky on Jan 3, 2010 10:14 AM CST
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Well I hope this doesn't violate protocol or something. I'd like to throw some thoughts out there.
I can easily see Dallas winning this game. We are at home. That's so huge right there alone. Romo should just be deadly by this point, in his prime and tons of experience in Garrett's offense. McNabb OTOH, I still feel can be forced into mistakes.
If we lose this game, the defeatist attitude sported by Cowboys fans is going to come rushing back all week, though, despite all the good thing accomplished this year. The last two weeks will mean NOTHING.
TBH, if Garrett doesn't get better in the red zone, even though I feel like he's a good OC, I wont cry if he was to leave for a HC job after this year. We have got to start capitalizing more on opportunities. When was the last time this team scored 30 let alone 40 points? Unacceptable.
Now if JG leaves and we get some suckball, which of course is the risk you take, I will be crying lol.
Dallas is good because of Wade on one side of the ball and JG on the other, both are quality. But the fact is if one side's been slacking lately, it's JG's.
That's another reason I think we can beat the Eagles though, one of these days it seems like everything is going to go right, in that case we are going to put a LOT of points up. And the defense has been super stout.
As for playoffs, I want GB as our first round matchup about 10X more than any other. Ariz is the team I DONT want to face. If we beat Philly Sunday, having to beat them AGAIN wont be fun either. Ugh. So basically, dream scenario for me is beat Philly, win the division, be home against GB...(assuming no first round bye which is likely).
Texans, imma tell you lackluster Texans fans a lil secret, fire that d-coord you're going to be 11-5 plus easy next year. Meaning, I sure hope you dont fire him lulz. He's the Texans very own Brian Stewart.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 10:47 AM CST reply actions
Go Eagles!
Best scenario for the Cowboys is for them to win and Minn to lose. They would then be the 2nd seed. If they lose they go to either Minn or AZ.
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So you want the Cowboys to lose
so they can go on the road and play Minn or AZ?
Because, if so that makes absolutely no sense.
Why would you ever want to pass on a home game.
I should have been clearer on my point.
the “Eventual Super Bowl Champs” is the Cowboys.
Which losing team are you sided with.
Im not a huge cowboys fan
But I root for whoever plays the eagles. I don’t know if there is a team I dislike more, hell I don’t know if there is an entire city I dislike more
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by rentz on Jan 3, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You probably hate freedom, too.
Up yours, freedom hater!
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
You don't understand Garrett's game-planning, either.
If the Cowboys were to score or average 30 to 40 points a game this year, they wouldn’t have success in the playoffs.
As it stands, they are showing that they have improved their ideology to tailor their philosophies to playoff success.
This little thing they’ve got going right now, with the high-percentage short passing and a decent running game, with a deep threat in Miles Austin, yeah that’s a productive offense.
An offense like that keeps an offense like WHO DAT?! off of the field, entirely.
Then you let your defense win you the championship. That is the strength of the team this year and the only way they can win.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 10:50 AM CST reply actions
Yeah because if you only score 30 to 40 points
you wouldn’t win too many playoff games.
That's not how you win, numb nuts.
Remember Culpepper and Moss?
Yeah, that worked out.
Unless you are the Greatest Show on Turf, you can’t outscore your way to the Lombardi in the NFL.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think many teams score that much in the playoffs.
But I’m open to you proving me wrong.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Well I can't score the points
but I hope that the Cowboys could. I also understand your point that defense is more important during the playoffs.
I think most people's beef with Garrett
is the fact we’ve been stuffed on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 all year, especially the past few weeks. When you get inside the five you have to score touchdowns. The line is too big and too physical to not be able to consistently convert on short yardage plays. He needs to do less with the misdirection or delay plays, sometimes I feel like Garrett trys to do too much. There is really no excuse for Jason Witten having one touchdown, considering how lousy they’ve been in the redzone lately.
Davis and Gurode are the only ones that can be trusted to road grade and man block somebody.
So I think other teams just stick their Ted Washingtons in the A gap and force Garrett to get creative.
It sucks when you have to be creative on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.
I would use 2-back in those situations, having Choice and Jones running patterns in either flat, with Witten on a curl in the center of the field.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
I think that is the point.
Creative does not necessarily have to be complex, but instead something that is not so predictable. Especially when the predictable plays are being stopped in a particular game (like they were in the last game)
Can't win 'em all.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
No, but trying to win'em
by trying the same play over and over and failing over and over seems stupid.
Nobody who runs the same play over and over and fails over and over
is trying to win ’em.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
ESPN Pregame coverage
They were talking about the cowboys v eagles rivalry and discussed the bounty bowls. Chris Carter then said of course there was a bounty and him and Jackson started laughing when he talked about getting extra money if you made a guy stumble and hobble after.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
That is your first mistake
quit watching those fools.
Meh, it was before all the other pregame shows started
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Could be a nice pickup
Probably best suited for a Tashard Choice-type 3rd RB role that gets several touches a game, particularly given that Slaton isn’t really a workhorse back. They still need someone to split time with Slaton.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Beats me
There’s some thought that 3 straight 8-8 seasons will doom him, and thus a loss today means he’s gone.
There’s also some thought that even if he wins today, this is two years in a row where the Texans have come into the season expecting to be a playoff contender, and instead started the season poorly and needed a strong late run just to get back to .500, so he could be gone regardless.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
I had the same thought.
It’s not that he’s bad, it’s just that he doesn’t seem to have the upside as most of the good starters in the NFL.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Uh oh
Welker appears to be hurt pretty bad. The play-by-play guy is in panic mode, its kinda funny. Knee.
God
That was ridiculous. “Oh no! Oh my!”
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Keep 'em both.
One will get hurt eventually.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Stewart
Has been at least “Questionable” all year. But they need some talent at other positions and don’t have a first this year.
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Marion Barber
KC. Todd Haley. Charles and him would complement each other really well. I could see it. 2nd round pick?
Which would then mean...
…the Cowboys would be in the market for an every down back, wouldn’t they?
I mean, you aren’t going to just roll with Felix Jones as your starter and Tashard Choice as your backup, I can’t imagine.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I guess it depends on your evaluation of Choice
If we trade Barber, we think Choice can be an every down back.
Choice is not an every down back.
But he does everything really well.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Pierre Thomas, Cadillac, Leon Washington
Ronnie Brown will probably be restricted.
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Leon Washington isn't an every down back
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Shrug.
I don’t think any of them are, but then, I don’t think Barber is, either.
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
I think Ronnie Brown could be.
But I haven’t watched him enough to see if he blocks.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but Leon Washington and Felix are fairly similar
The others could compliment Felix nicely.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
There's also Mike Bell
And while he’s not an every down back, I still like Le’Ron McClain.
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't his leg get blown up or something too?
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by Kinslerhomer on Jan 3, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Marion Barber has averaged 14 carries a game this year...
One would assume Felix would be in line for a few more carries next year no matter what. So, if you trade Barber, you need to replace 10-12 carries a game.
He can block and catch, too, though.
Let’s not sell the guy short just because he got paid and made business decisions afterwards.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I like Barber
I just think if we can get something of value for him, it should be explored.
Texans might give up a #2 for him
He’d be a great match for Slaton. And Houston desperately needs a between the tackles/goal line back to share time with him.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
That would make some sense.
But you have to wonder if they couldn’t get 80-90% of Barber with that No. 2 draft pick…someone who would have higher upside in the future instead of a likely decline.
They could address their secondary with the first round pick though.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Choice as the starter
Felix as the change of pace.
I think Choice could be an every down back in this league. He’s got the skillset and has never shown an aversion to carrying the load in college.
He's listed at 5'10, but seems like 5'9 or 5'8.
Jones is 6’0 and Barber is 6’0, for reference.
You’re putting him on par with like Emmitt or LT, talent wise.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
No, I'm not
I never insinuated he’d be a game-changing player who consistently showed up as one of the best runners in the league. But Choice could be a more than servicable starter; certainly as good as Marion at this point, I think. Barber’s a mere shadow of what he used to be. He barely breaks any tackles anymore, and his breakaway speed is less than pedestrian.
He lacks hunger
Those failed short down conversions may have been a good thing, though, as far as bringing that hunger back.
This kind of talk
always reminds me of Darren Hambrick talk. Dallas has been lucky as a franchise with its RB’s but when in the position is in doubt, we as fans love us some backup RB’s.
Watching this game?
Looks like they’ve kept him fresh throughout the year.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Also
Why would a bad team that is supposedly trying to rebuild give up a 2nd rounder for a RB with a lot of miles on him, who probably only has 2-3 good years left?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t think they would.
They would, however, take DeAngelo or Stewart, I think.
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
You're paying for the high probability
that he will produce for the next 2-3 years. After that, his variance shoots up again.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Right, but...
…why does a bad team want to give up a high 2nd rounder to get a guy for 2 years?
I mean, I know the Raiders did that with Richard Seymour, but they’re the worst run franchise in sports.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Although they planned on franchising him anyway.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
DeAngelo Williams isn't exactly Ron Dayne either.
Look at Felix Jones. The speedy backs are always on thin ice.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
If they would smart they would
while both still have insanely high stock. They got Moore as their QB, they should trade one of their RBs for Dez Bryant.
And now...
It “takes your breath away” when Randy Moss gets hit because Wes Welker got hurt.
Shut up already.
I didn't quite realize it until today...
…watching the Texans game with a Texans fan who’s a friend of mine. Good grief they were ridiculous.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm
It’s been at least 45 seconds since I’ve heard that Welker’s injury is the headline. What’s going on?
x-rays negative, they could be carting him back ON to the field ..
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
The Pittsburgh receiving corps overall
Is very very beastly. Holmes+Ward+wallace with Miller as the Tight end… that’s a combination the great majority of teams in this league would be very very happy with.
I dunno.
I think you could argue that Austin-Williams-Crayton/Ogletree plus Witten is at least in the same ballpark.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
nowhere close
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So the 2nd seed is out the window now
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
The unnecessary roughness?
That was an easy call. You don’t hit defenseless players in the head. That’s going to be called every time.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Happens all the time in the NFL.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
so i don't think i want the cowboys to play the vikings anymore
they are going to be playing with a boatload of confidence.
I didn't get why people wanted to play them
They’re a different team at home
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Because there's a better chance against them at home
than vs the eagles 2 weeks in a row.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I disagree
The Vikings scare me a lot more than the Eagles.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
it's not the eagles as much as it is going back to back against the same team
But I agree, the Vikings are very scary.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
That's true
but out of Vikings/Eagles/Packers, I’d take my chances with the Eagles. Even if it’s back to back.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
I was listening to the ticket yesterday and they discussed the back to back scenario
and I believe they said in every case its happened the team that won the regular season finale lost the playoff game
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
If the giants can't win
at least the loss can be as painful as possible.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DShep on Jan 3, 2010 1:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
31-0 Minn over Giants at halftime
looks like the playoff scenarios narrowed considerably. A Dallas loss sends them to Minn next week. A Cowboys win and they host the Eagles again. Anyone know the tie scenarios?
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Tie
A tie means Minn gets the bye and we go to Philly next week
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
OK
Dallas wins and GB/AZ tie: Dallas would host GB
Philly wins and GB/AZ tie: Dallas goes to AZ
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Eli tanking
to fuck with our playoff scenarios. What a tool.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it would have been nice to have him play well
and the Giants win, but Dallas has played 15 games this season. Plenty of games that they shouldn’t have to rely on other teams to decide their fate. If Dallas could have just beaten that tool’s team they would be only worrying about themselves right now.
+ Juan
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
really
there isn’t an easy road for the cowboys without the bye. Either beat the vikings at home or beat philly two weeks in a row. Best thing they can do is try to beat philly this week and get home field.
Or run interference this week, then expose them next week.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
if you say so.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
pretty impressed with the panthers
glad they had no way of sneaking into the playoffs. they’re probably one of the best teams in football right now
I agree
Matt Moore + the backs and Smith gives them something really nice to build on next year.
If their defense stays healthy and upgrades their rushing D a bit (passing is awesome), they could really be dangerous next year.
Imagine if they go and get a solid #2 WR
In all honesty, TO might make perfect sense for them on a 1-year deal.
I think they got banged up a lot at DT.
Just getting healthy would make them a better D. Jon Beason is quite good…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
If only they didn't have...
…the only kicker in the league worse than Nick Folk.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Ironic that he passed Folk today...
…for the NFL lead in missed FG kicks.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
why is he in the game still?
31-0 lead at home vs the crappy giants? Game over.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Only Ranger thing I'll say today....
….The more I look at Billy Butler, the more I want him in a Ranger uniform. I’d give up quite a bit to get him here, too.
"Congrats Rangers fans, you just found your replacement for Mark Teixeira. Just a crazy, crazy steal." -Goldstein
excellent placement
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 3, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What sort of batting line
Would you see him putting up here next year?
And would you pull the trigger on Gutierrez+Main+Ross for him if it came down to that?
For me… .300/.360/.480. And I’d consider it, but end up passing.
heh
People talking about baseball in a football thread on a baseball site. The world has gone all nuts.
by Black Francis on Jan 3, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
As brett would say when he's "being harsh"
“Enter you.”
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
You don't like Football, but week after week you're always in this thread..
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 3, 2010 2:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No I'm Not
Actually I don’t mind the game of football. What I hate is all the hype around it, the players themselves, and the coaches. Strip it down to just a game and I can enjoy it.
by Black Francis on Jan 3, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say that's about right..
…with a nice spike in HR/RBI playing in TBIA. Perfect right behind hambone
"Congrats Rangers fans, you just found your replacement for Mark Teixeira. Just a crazy, crazy steal." -Goldstein
Very typical of the Texans
And the biggest reason I can see Kubiak getting fired…the players just keep making dumb mistakes, and that has been what has killed them the past 2-3 years.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
The effort you just spent typing that
you could have just looked it up…
by Agreen07 on Jan 3, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How many versions of their offense do they have?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Well this isn't wildcat stuff
He’s actually playing “qb”. But yeah he just tried to run for a first down and a helmet to helmet hit, he hasn’t moved in 3 minutes.
Here's how they get in
PITTSBURGH
1. Steelers win, Texans lose, Jets lose
2. Steelers win, Texans lose, Ravens lose
3. Steelers win, Jets lose, Ravens lose, Broncos lose
Pittsburgh clinches a playoff spot with:
1. PIT win + HOU loss or tie + NYJ loss or tie OR
2. PIT win + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss or tie OR
3. PIT win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Wow, Cowboys beat writer
Doug Free may be our starting LT next year.
No one is exactly sure how this uncapped year is going help teams dump bad contracts, but it could be the chance to lose Flozell’s
Roy Williams has a guaranteed 9 million dollar roster bonus, so he’s staying.. I was really hoping we could rid ourselves of that.
Free
After a shaky start, he’s really looked very good. I wouldn’t mind rolling with him next year, though I still want to draft a few linemen. Even though he’ll probably be a guard, I’m looking forward to seeing if Brewster has anything.
While Brewster is intriguing...
…this team needs quality OL depth behind Free something fierce…even moreso if they replace Flozell with him.
The thing about Flozell is that a few years ago, he was a legit top 5 LT, doing a really good job at protecting the QB’s blind side. But he’s getting slower each year and is now more in that above average range rather than elite. So the question is, do you stick with him realizing that he’s going to need help against elite pass rushers but is a known quantity for most games (1 penalty/game included) or do you roll the dice with Free? That seems like a really really tough call to make, especially because Flozell is going to be worse next year.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 3, 2010 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
i wonder how much play
the saints going into the playoffs on three straight losses after being 13-0 is going to get from the media?
sitting brees the whole game was not smart
they’re going to get a bye anyway. They needed to have at least one series where they had success. Sean Payton and his hubris…
They have to win
And two out of the Jets, Ravens and Broncos have to lose or tie.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
x
Scenario #1: Texans win, everyone else loses (Houston would be at 9-7, everyone else at 8-8, which would mean they get in)
Scenario #2:Texans win, Denver loses to Kansas City, New York loses to Cincinnati, Baltimore beats Oakland, Pittsburgh beats Miami (Texans, Ravens, Steelers finish at 9-7—Ravens get in, Texans top Steelers in tie-breaker)
Scenario #3: Texans win, New York loses to Cincinnati, Baltimore loses to Oakland, Denver beats Kansas City, Pittsburgh beats Miami (Texans, Broncos and Steelers finish at 9-7—Steelers get in with tie-breaker against Broncos, Texans top Steelers in tie-breaker)
Scenario #4: Texans win, Denver loses to Kansas City, Baltimore loses to Oakland, New York beats Cincinnati, Pittsburgh beats Miami (Texans, Jets, Steelers finish at 9-7—Jets get in, Texans top Steelers in tie-breaker)
Yep
Only have themselves to blame, though.
4 winnable games that they blew…win one of them, and they are in the playoffs.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Pitt vs. Dolphins turning into a hell of a game
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
Heh.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
There is a scenario right now...
though very slim, in which all of the Wild Card games could be rematches of games from this weekend. That’d be really strange.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:15 PM CST reply actions
I just did a front page post...
…about how I had to turn off the ALCS game 3 last night (I turned it on MLB Network to watch a replay of it) because of McCarver.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Romo looks very calm right now to me
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He...
forced the throw on that roll-out and it should have been picked off.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
No he didn't
Forcing it would have been to Witten who was covered by Samuel. He basically threw it away. The replay showed that LB had no chance to pick it off and get both feet in bounds.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So ..
he either threw it away and made a bad throw, or he forced it and got lucky.
Is it really worth arguing about right now?
It wasn't a complete throw away.
It looked like he was trying to throw it to the sideline to give only Miles a chance to make a great catch but threw it too wide. Either way it was either gonna be a great catch by Austin or incomplete.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Heck of a drive.
Keeping that offense and McNabb off of the field.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions
Nice tone-setting drive.
Now the defense needs to stuff their ass.
Seeing the camera zoom in on Romos face he looks really really calm pre-snap
Eiother the Eagles are playing really vanilla or he has watched enough video to know exactly what they are doing so far
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think they are going to play pretty vanilla
Vick being listed as the no. 3 QB today is the give away
Bring back the USFL!!
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Vick hasn't been much of a force anyway
Last time we played he was in for how many plays? Like 3. The only game he got significant PT was against Atlanta which is understandable given the circumstances.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If they win they get a first round bye
Why would they save everything in order to play again next week?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
They are still playing to win
They didn’t blitz much that first drive, but I don’t expect that to continue. But I also don’t expect to see they’re most exotic packages.
I could see them saving some really exotic stuff, especially if they get behind early
But I think sitting Vick has more to do with the fact if McNabb went down early Kolb would give them a better chance to still win than Vick does and they must have had 45 man roster issues and had to keep an extra guy and not have all 3 QBs active
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So if we win we still have to play the Eagles again next week?
ugh
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
what would parcells say?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
At home against the Eagles is better than on the road against Minnesota
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yeah probably
would just be boring to play them again
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Cowboys/Eagles...boring?
In the playoffs? In the first playoff game at Jerryworld?
I don’t think boring is the right word. Awesome is more appropriate I believe
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Time for Felix Jones and Choice.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
On cue.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Felix Jones' car
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jan 3, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Goodness...
I like how this is going.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM CST reply actions
Glad to see the defense is still here
Keeping Macklin, Jackson and Westbrook contained is going to be the key. Let’em catch short passes, but they have to wrap up.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
Human Target
Over / Under about 2-3 episodes before it’s canceled?
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
At least it has Jackie Earle Haley
(Kelly Leak from the original Bad News Bears) in it as the villain.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
Adam
Did you enjoy Favre’s interview with Siragusa after the Vikings earned a hard-nosed victory?
It was disgusting to watch Curt Menefool stumble over his words and struggle to keep a straight face after that. Then Bradshaw carrying on that it’s just "Amazing. At 40 years old playing his best football. Just amazing. "
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:35 PM CST reply actions
Adam secretly adores Favre.
But he’s ashamed of it, so like the gay-right wing politician he rails against him publicly hoping that none of us will discover his shameful secret.
I think you have it pegged.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
I see what you did there
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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Hmm?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Similarly
You love Wade Phillips and Longhorn.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Kosier just went helmet to helmet on a defenseless Samuel on that tackle.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
No flag.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Marty B
You are coming back from a concussion you might want to tighten that chin strap so your helmet doesn’t come off
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
“Did not even mention Roy Williams. CRAYTON was mentioned before that. By Sean McDermott. "
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
and the legs, apparently
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
I like Ogletree too...he should get more time...
it’s like a 70’s band… “Austin & Ogletree”
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
come on!
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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Damn
Catch it with your hands Caryton not your pads
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Crayton...
has some pretty terrible hands.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well...
he’s still not as bad as Roy E.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
His hands are dandy fine
He just prefers not to extend them more than 4-5 inches away from the ol cagus ribbus.
Crouching tiger, hidden gator.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
Well it looked like it may have tipped Samuels helmet but it still went through his hands and hit his shoulder pads which caused it to go straight in the air
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Crayton is good for...
at least one play where he mishandles a ball each game.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Nice job Barbie
As soon as you run to McNabb he throws it where you were
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
^
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh
Someone get Barbie off the field
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Gross, dude.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
im not sure how he even has a roster spot
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
The D...
is doing pretty well on first down so far, however.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:53 PM CST reply actions
Damnit Ware
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Barbie Carpenter
this is still funny as hell…the Barbie Live Blog:
http://barbiecarpenter.blogspot.com/
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
Thanks Peters, that was fun.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Gotta make that catch rook
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Ha, Andy might eat that ST coord....
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
He carries around a bottle of Sweet Baby Ray's...
just for situations like this.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Ray Rice...
looks so much like Emmitt while running, it’s weird.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions
How bad did the Fighting Favre's end up killing the Giants?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
only if they tie
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Only if...
it ends in a tie. So, no.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Can't believe Kige picked the Eagles...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOJO3xNXUWA
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
dude its one of our best plays
just not that time
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I can see...
for Miles and Miles and Miles!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:07 PM CST reply actions
Austin
Is it just assumed that the Cowboys can re-sign him this offseason?
oh yeah
restricted FA which means we will have the chance to match. If its uncapped he loses FA rights
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
You are right
I had it backwards. He is due to be UFA but if the CBA isn’t extended then he will only be a RFA. Either way I don’t see Jerry letting him get away
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yeah
defenseless umpire got shoved in the back.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
because Jesus told him he would be a QB
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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Urban Meyer must think he is the second coming of Vince Young.
But he won’t ever get the running game that the Titans have.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
But look at all the hell Tennessee has gone through to make it work with Young.
Do you really think a team is going to spend a high draft pick and invest that kind of development time into Tebow?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
With Matt Moore around, you don't mess with Tebow.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Jacksonville could
Mainly because they may well believe that without Tebow, the franchise has no future there.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
that pick would be similar to the people wanting the texans to take young
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Is the situation that dire? I haven't paid any attention.
What has come of Garrard?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Why
Has Tennessee gone through “hell” to make it work with VY, when there’s tons of teams that have nothing but bad QB play for years?
People are retarded. So many things judged on blatant double standards.
If the Titans when through “hell” trying to make VY work, what the hell was “trying to make Kerry Collin work”??
That’s why these highly drafted QVB’s have such a low sucess rate. Not because they cant play, but because people hate them and they get such short leashes. Whereas if theyre just undrafted FA’s or something, they dont get hated or judged on the double standard, and they get 10X longer leashes.
Kerry Collins took them to the playoffs.
Vince Young will take them to the playoffs next year.
Easier to understand, now?
"Every Indian feels that where the ball is, there he should be, and though they do not altogether abandon an instinctive disposition, the glory of Lacrosse to them is in the exciting chases after the ball. The Indian village game was not intellectual enough for the whites, and needed systematizing; but never let this improvement be carried to such extreme as to spoil its extemporaneous peculiarities of fielding, and the general free character, which distinguishes it above all other field games."
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 4, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
He motorboats his girlfriend for the first time...
and decides he has wasted his youth and needs to make up for lost time and with so many ladies in the world, football just isn’t a priority any longer?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
that one of the bottom right is lucy pinder
doubt that is tebow’s gf
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
But as Verne Lundquist would have you know...
Tebow is no “normal man.”
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
If he was being honest ...
Adam would say the same thing about Brett Favre.
It's one big set-up huh?
Kind of like The Truman Show, except reality.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
And
Nothing says tight end like 31-35, 482 yds 3 TD’s 0 INT"s against the #3 team in the country.
I also like how before the game, the consensus around the media and fans was that Cincy was the trendy upset pick. AFTER the game however, they were obviously trash and so, Tebows game didn’t count at all…
TD Crayton
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
So if the Cowboys go up by 21 do you think the Eagles essentially give up?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Ehh
We weren’t gonna shut them out so its not all that unexpected
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
they just cant keep up with jackson
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
hahahhahahahahahahah
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Nice start ladies
Just need to hold them to a FG or less this drive. I wont mind giving up FG’s, just no TD’s.
Also sets up where Dallas will have a 2 minute drill left to try to score again.
Yay! Fumble recovered.
damn Ratliff got there in a hurry
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Phillips with a nice truck stick there
contrasted with Witten, who I’ve always wondered why he wouldn’t go down when they stop his forward progress, but I suspect he plans to have a long career.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:20 PM CST reply actions
McNabb
I noticed it last time we played them too, he plays a little too careless and happy.
Even when he screws up or theyre way behind, he’s laughing and joking around rather than upset.
Wow, Romo just playing catch with receivers now..
Isn't that the same thing people say about Romo?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I'm not angry...
at Crayton this game. How queer.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Ughh
Looks like we will be playing Philly AGAIN next week. Not the matchup I wanted. Even if we have dominated them,.
he stood there watching the ball
instead of going towards it
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I'm done with Roy WIlliams
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Yay for Suisam
Up by three scores, the defense can just tee off and it’s all house money now.
Seems like this team breaks out some long balls on offense, blitzes on defense, etc, the kitchen sink, in big games this season.
so we are playing philly forsure next week?
is that right?
GB/ AZ game
that is about the most worthless game right now. neither team has anything to be gained from it at all and they are facing each other again
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Ugh
How do you beat Philly three times in one season?
Oh well, at least if we do that maybe the media will shut up about how Reid has pwned us historically for a little while. Beating them at home earlier this year certainly didn’t do it.
Giants are trying to curse us, thought you would see it.
Remember when they knocked us off after your favorite regular season ever?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Here's a good scenario generator...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario
If the Cowboys win, unless the Cardinals/Packers game ends in a tie, the Cowboys play the Eagles, in Dallas, regardless.
If the Cowboys lose they play the Vikings, in Minnesota, regardless.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Man...
If only the Giants had decided to play today.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:33 PM CST reply actions
So up 17 at half against the team you will play again next week
Do you sit your key guys?
Do you wait to see what Philly does?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So you wait to see what Philly does then?
I saw Wes Welker go down with an injury today that will likely hurt any chance NE has of going far in the playoffs. It was a meaningless game. With Minn winning and us being assured of playing next week and we are playing the same team we are playing currently I want my guys as healthy as possible. Last thing we need is Miles Austin or Tony Romo going down with an injury because we wanted to put an extra 7 on the board when we are up by 3 scores
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I was thinking about Welker the other day
Besides playcalling (which has slipped a lot with the loss of McDaniels) what makes NE dangerous is Brady and Moss. That’s pretty much it.
Welker can catch 5,000 balls imo, he’s still a slow white slot receiver. They’d probably be better off replacing him with somebody who can run.
Welker opens up the deep area for Moss
Teams start out giving up the short stuff but as the day goes on they start creeping up and that opens up Moss deep. Without Welker an opposing team is going to keep a safety over the top all day long
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The first sentance is what I was responding to
I wouldn’t touch that last sentence with a ten foot pole
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well
You can force feed a receiver the ball and he’ll put up numbers. Does that mean he’s any good? Imo you have to look at his physical qualities often imo to determine that, at times.
The same thing came up in my mind with Roy Williams, I kinda expected Dallas to force him the ball and him put up big numbers at times this year (even though it never happened). Would that have made him a good receiver, or just a ex 1st round pick who had to get the ball because of his high price? I dont know. Physically he’s big, but not really fast.
you lose and you're on the road against Minnesota
you win and you’re at home.
You don’t sit anyone except Roy Williams
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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What if Philly comes out with Kolb at QB?
And if they are essentially giving up?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
OK
If thats the case I play Romo and company a little more. If we get to the 4th quarter still up 3 scores then hes out
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Kolb coming out at QB
would scare me. He might give them a spark. I like Kolb. I have NEVER been a big fan of McNabb, he’s way too inconsistent.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
If Kolb starts the 2nd half
Its most likely without Westbrook, and Jackson also. If the Eagles give up I doubt they will leave any of their key guys in.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Sturm said that McNabb reminds him of Dirk
and I think I agree.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Never respected but still wins, own city takes him for granted
would’ve silenced the critics with a championship but didn’t etc.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
I see the parallel.
McNabb was never given a chance, Dallas has never really let Dirk ‘’arrive.’’
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Alot of people bag on Dirk
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The difference, though,
Is that Dirk is a Hall of Famer, and changed the conception of PF, while McNabb was a good-but-not-great QB who played a key part in a lot of playoff wins. He’s not a HOF.
Why isn't he a HOF?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
[not that I disagree. But I think he has the potential.]
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
He's never been considered the best at his position
Or even close, really. I think it’s harder to quantify what makes a NFL HOF than it is a MLB, but even looking at the basic numbers, his completion % is meh, nothing special in TDs/YDs. I will say, though, that his INT numbers are very good.
I guess he’s had 3-4 years of really, really good play, and if his entire career were like that, he might have a chance, but he’s not an elite-level QB to me.
Disagree.
McNabb is barely below Favre in terms of best gunslingers of this era.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
How many others are there?
Of this era, the no-doubters are Favre, Manning, and Brady.
Is McNabb getting in over Warner if they’re head to head?
I argue that McNabb and Warner both deserve it.
Brees to be determined.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
I guess what I'm saying
Is was there ever a time that McNabb has been higher than the 5th or 6th best QB in the league?
No. But that fact alone absolutely does not preclude him from the HOF.
He was a victim of a horrendous series of circumstances, but was one of the most talented passers the game has ever seen. Can you deny that after watching him utterly torch and torment the Cowboys for years?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
No doubt
That he’s a very, very good QB. I don’t think he’s one of the most talented passers the game has ever seen, but being very, very good is nothing to sneeze at.
Wow.
I’m surprised that you don’t think more of him and the success he has achieved, considering what he has had to work with.
He has overachieved his entire career.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Assumes sustained production though, like McNabb.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
What do you call McNabb's pile?
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
His playoff appearances
and record as a starter, is being sold short and kicked under the rug.
We’re also neglecting the lack of a #1 defense and a dominant running game.
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I admit
That I don’t give automatic credit for wins to QBs.
That said, I don’t really think I’m selling him short by saying that he’s been a very, very good QB for over a decade.
Also, Manning has had poor-to-average defenses for many of his years in Indy.
On a statistical basis
what precludes McNabb from the HOF, other than an uncharacteristically high amount of interceptions (which is just a guess on my part anyway).
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
INT
McNabb has a low amount of INTs especially considering how much hes thrown in his career
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Somebody tell me
why he doesn’t deserve to be in the HOF, statistically.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Heh.
He actually has really good interception numbers.
As I said, his basic numbers just aren’t that impressive. Only two seasons of 25 or more TDs, not a lot of yardage, completion % is OK, low Y/A, and for whatever stock you put in it, he’s hovered around the “above-average” level in PFR’s rating system.
Well, that's the system he was put in.
He runs those plays to perfection.
Most other QB’s would not be able to run that offense to a T, due to turnovers.
How does he look compared to Kelly, in your opinion?
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by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Okay.
I put him in that class.
Kelly’s numbers are probably slightly better, but again, Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, Andre Reed, etc.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
but Kelly went to the SB four times.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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McNabb did a lot, with nothing.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Was it Kelly? Or the other HOF's and coach?
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
I guess that doesn't carry as much weight
With me as it does with others.
McNabb’s Eagles have been more dominant for longer than Kelly’s Bills.
Lol.
Now that is extreme.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm saying he would get in over Brees.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Warner deserves it more, if a choice must be made. Obviously.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Favre's '96 team
had the #1 defense, in terms of team defense.
I don’t think McNabb was ever afforded that, but I do recall some pretty stout units under Jim Johnson.
They also had a good line, I presume, because Edgar Bennett was the lead back, at 4.0 YPC, but they also carried Dorsey Levens and his 4.7 YPC on the roster.
Favre had a lot of help, but because of all the crap afterwards, probably receives more credit than he deserves for the ’96 squad.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
still a little nervous
philly was pretty much getting anything they wanted over the middle. missed a couple big plays too
Yeah...
the team can’t really let up any in this game right now.
What a strange scenario where they have to play your best to win to get a home playoff game only to get rewarded by the exact same game one week later only an elimination playoff game.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
yep
i’ve been saying all week. being a dallas sports fan the last five years i almost expect some really cruel scenario in which we win this week, only to lose at home in the playoffs to them next week.
And then Andy Reid...
will come out for a presser, hands covered in sauce from a recently devoured McRib, a cigar dangling from his moist lips, to say, “Just as we planned it all along.”
:-/
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Reminds you of a couple years ago when we swept the season series with NY only to lose to them in the playoffs
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Most drama right now is that the
KC / Denver and Balt / Oak games are really close right now. KC and Oak pull off upsets and the Texans make the playoffs.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
And if the Texans make it...
and the Jets beat the Bengals, all four Wild Card games next weekend will be repeats of games from this weekend.
Bizarre-o.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
would love to see denver finish at 8-8
since i said all along that denver was a pretty spare team despite the 6-0 start.
there offense has been below average all year
their hot start was all due to a dramatic turnaround defensively.
Does Terry Bradshaw provide the voice for Cotton Hill?
"Ho visto il tuo agire, non solo rendono per me. Basta un sacco di fluff".
anybody know
does the party pass deal apply for playoff games too?
I'm sure it does, probably up the price though.
I’m guessing at least 40 for a party pass.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I think so
Don’t know if they will continue to do only 15000 or if they will try and cram an extra 10000 or so in there
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Could only do that if they open the doors, which won't happen in January.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
This is Texas
It could easily be 60 degrees in January
Of course it won’t but the month has nothing to do with it.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
To add to that
Jerry has said he plans on 100,000+ for the SB in FEBRUARY!!
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That's because they will move the seats in together
which they don’t do for Cowboy games (although for the playoffs they might)
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
60 is still too cool for them to open the doors.
Has to at least be 75 or 80 for it not to be too cool in those exposed seats.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
no it doesn't
It was a high of 65 on Thanksgiving day and they opened the doors
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Oh really?
Didn’t remember that…
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Joe Buck just said 100,000 expected for todays
I don’t remember seeing the doors being open when ive seen outside shots of the stadium
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
yes
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
wow
i would have bet my life akers would make that. he always makes those against us.
No way...
would I have kicked it there. 53 yards is a crapshoot for even the best kickers.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Felix!!!!
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
fuck the Cowboys
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
WTF?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
um.........................
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The bullshit holding call
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
All these OL penalties and none on Flozell so far
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well
The media was tagging us and Philly as the hottest teams in the NFC and perhaps NFC Super Bowl favorites before this game.
So now that belongs to just us if we hold on?
draw
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
ugh
drive entirely wiped out by trivial holding call. keeps philly in the game.
How much is that so far?
Didn’t it cost like 400m to make?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I read today
that with the worldwide box office it’s up over $1 Billion now.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Its a billion worldwide.
I dunno, I think you have to double the movies budget+marketing to be profitable. I think somebody here said the profit number was like 740m on Avatar.
So that easily done, plus lots to go, plus DVD/Blue Ray, Toys, videogames, TV rights, etc.
It must have been tweeted to all hell to get that much buzz.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
lol
Is Vin Diesel affordable at this time?
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
This reminds of the Wash game
When the offense fails, you dont feel like the other team can do anything anyway because the defense is playing so good.
don't think the defense is playing that great
mcnabb has missed a lot of open looks. granted they haven’t shown that they stop us either.
This is what you get with McNabb
We get the “bad McNabb” this week. He’ll probably do no wrong next week and kill us.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
Nah
He always misses alot with no pressure
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Marty B sucks
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I remember late his junior year...
…complaining that the coaches were getting on him for breaking off his routes and not running his routes properly. He said that if he was running his route, and he saw that he’d be open if he ran it differently, then that’s what he’d do, and it is the QBs job to adjust.
I read that, and thought, man, what NFL team is going to want to deal with someone so undisciplined and with such an ego?
Should have known…
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 3, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't that what NFL receivers do alot of times?
Read the coverage and break off routes if necessary and the QB has to know when thats gonna happen. Not all the time I understand but some times
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Brandon Lloyd made a career off one catch
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
this is like the washington game
can’t put them away, only philly is actually a good team so it could bite us in the ass.
Ahhh
Cant put this game in “dominated” status. Unsatisfying, just like the Wash game. Offenses fault.
Yeah...
17-0 is still scary. 24-0 and I could breathe a little.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
FELIX!!!!!
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Offensive line=interchangable
Wasn’t this board crying when we lost Colombo?
I heard some talk host saying the other day saying, if Colombo comes back now, they should just not bother, because Free is playing well etc. Just dont bother bringing Colomobo back.
Haha, yeah. I bet as always at the time people were spinning the loss of Colombo as a huge blow…
We have two good linemen.
Free is just now emerging.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
KC just took the lead again over Den 20-17
and Oak has closed the gap to 14-13 with Baltimore.
is a fan of Derek Freaking Holland!
24-0...
I’m feeling good.
27-17 KC. If Oakland wins their game, we’re a Jet win tonight away from all four Wildcard games being a repeat of games this week.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:21 PM CST reply actions
One more defensive stand and we better not see Romo, Austin or Witten again today
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think you're right...
the way the defense is playing, I think they would be safe pulling him
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 3, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Doubt it
Wade would NEVER live it down if something happened and Philly accidentally won. Especially as much as you guys hate him already..
What happens if a key guy gets injured?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
bullshit
Romo goes down with an injury right now and the media would have Wades ass for playing him up 24 with 17 minutes to play
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Exactly...
Jon Kitna…meet your three RBs…your job is to hand the ball to them for one quarter…
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 3, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Tashard Choice has a concussion
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Spencer...
has reached Beast status.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:26 PM CST reply actions
I hate DeSean Jackson.
What a douche. If I was Andy Reid I would be chewing his ass on the sideline, what a slacker. Maybe he will drop another TD at the 1 again..
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I hate him as a Cowboys fan
But the guy is a monster on the football field
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
This is the correct response.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Reid
Must think the Cowboys are the best team ever.
Lets see, he’s 11-3 against everybody else, but looks like an expansion team offense against us.
Man, I hope the Texans make the playoffs...as much as I hate Houston
that franchise deserves it.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Selling tickets and being suspenseful.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
Just the way Bud Adams stripped the Oilers from them
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I wonder if Mangini is going to save his job.
I doubt it, but they have played pretty well the last month.
Pfft.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
It always follows the script of the numbers. The precious.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Witten...
always looks like he’s running through pudding.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Good way to put it
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Oops
@Adam_Schefter Initial tests showed Patriots WR Wes Welker tore his ACL and MCL. He’ll undergo more tests tomorrow to confirm.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
bye bye 2010
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Edelman looks good though
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Give a team a week to scheme for him and lets see
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Witherspoon realize he's losing 24-0 right?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Jesus
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
That looked good on the replay...
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Well congrats Cowboys...
I have a Bill Sheridan I’m selling. Any interest? Honestly, this guy could be a huge asset to you.
such a luxury
having a kicker that was money the last two years. :(
What the Folk?
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Green Bay...
and Dallas. Look like the best teams in the NFC right now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:40 PM CST reply actions
are you forgetting about the vikings?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
They looked good today but the last two weeks hadn't
The Boys and Packers have looked good for a couple weeks now
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
They played a forfeit against the Giants...
and had looked like crap the few weeks before that.
This Cowboy win helps them in that they’ll get to play at home where they are much more dangerous. But, they don’t look as good as Dallas or Green Bay right now to me.
Would the world explode from media overexposure if the Packers played the Vikings in the playoffs?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
I used to hate on Jenkins, but that kid has become a player.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Romo down???
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
isn't that the head ref's main responsibility?
don’t know how you miss that…..
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
yeah that wasnt just a late hit that was a really late hit
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Dang...
Romo just got plastered
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 3, 2010 5:47 PM CST reply actions
Joe Buck just tried to jinx the fuck out of Romo.
It almost worked.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
was that buck?
i dont know why i was thinking aikman
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Joe Buck overtly despises the Cowboys.
He’s been rooting for the Iggles all day.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
Ummm...get that arm warmed Jon. You're in.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Yeah lets leave him in a little lonegr. Up 3 scores with less than 10 minutes to go we need more insurance
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
aikman jinxed him
by talking about how he’s taking every snap.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
that should have been
15 yard penalty on philly.
KC is going to win...
37-24 with just under 10 minutes left.
RIP Josh McDaniels.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:49 PM CST reply actions
How things have turned since that fist pumping victory dance after beating NE
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Oh...
no.
I just am enjoying watching his season end today.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't Pitt get in if that happens?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
nevermind
I went all the way up and saw the scenarios
Pitt needed Jets, Baltimore, and Denver to lose if Houston won.
Baltimore fucked it up for them
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
if titan can rally
they finish with same record as denver after starting 0-6
yup
which surprises me, coming into the draft all i heard was how well suited he would be for the nfl
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
He looks a lot heavier than he used to
Chunky, almost.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
Seriously I don't care if all they do is hand off why the fuck is Romo coming back in
Unless he comes in for one play to give the fans a chance to give him a standing ovation or some shit this is completely retarded.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I cannot fathom a reason for keeping him in
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Texans keys to success
Give that D- Coordinator Ron Washington’s patented lifetime contract next season. Sounds like a good plan. Rooney rule FTW.
Romo trying to show too much leadership...
he needs to have that hat on.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
What I wonder is...
if the players don’t matter, why are all of the favored teams like New Orleans, Indianapolis, and San Diego losing with their starters on the bench?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Well...
at least Romo seems okay.
That was a pretty athletic pass.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:56 PM CST reply actions
Well, Wade will get roasted anyway for leaving Romo in.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I dont see it
We havent pulled Romo with 24 point leads and 8-10 mins left any other time this season. Why are you guys crying now?
Because we are playing a hated rival who we have to turn around and play again in 6 or 7 days in a playoff game
How many 24 point leads have we had this year? Not alot. And given the history between these two teams and the hatred the last thing I want is to see some scrub backup lineman think he’ll earn some love from the Philly fuckheads by taking our QB out with 2 minutes left in the game.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So if...
the Cowboys lose next week to the Eagles in a repeat of this game and the season ends with the #3 seed, NFC East Title, and a home playoff loss, does Wade keep his job?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 5:57 PM CST reply actions
Jerry said
He liked Wade, and believed in him, and he wanted that belief to be justified by playoff wins. That doesn’t sound too terribly comforting if I’m Wade.
i think so
jerry likes him. he saved his job with these three straight wins after they were declared dead by everybody.
Probably
The team is just playing too well to let a fluke loss make that decision.
In Wade’s best interest is to let Romo get injured. Then he cant be blamed if they lose to Iggles with Kitna, and he keeps his job.
He'd be blamed...
for Romo’s injury in that scenario.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
it is kind of bs how it works
we’ve already proven we are better than philly. outplayed them up there with the division lead on the line. whooped their ass with a winner take all game today. yet we still have to play them next week in another winner take all.
Not really
So, if we had the G men in the 1st rd, you’d suggest just conceding the game, since they beat our asses twice?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
It's pretty lame for any team to have to prove itself again for a 3rd time
whether it’s the cowboys or another team.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
So is the December stuff over?
Or will we hear about it again a year from now?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Well...
now it’s onto “The Cowboys can’t win a playoff game.”
So, there’s still things for the media to harp on.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
I dig it though.
At least people care. It’s not like Jacksonville getting eliminated to the collective shrug of the nation’s shoulders.
by brettgardner on Jan 3, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes...
absolutely. As a Rangers fan, who I know no one outside of a very small community cares a half a shit about, it’s nice to be a fan of a team that has high expectations always.
It’s nice to see how the other side lives every now and again.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
The bar/pool hall where I caught the game today
80% Pokes fans. Just awesome.
I have no idea why it is, but Northern Virginia/ Maryland has the biggest concentration of America’s team’s fans outside of DFW that I’ve ever seen.
Only thing better would have been a few Philly schlubs to give the gas-face to…
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
Being a Cowboys and Rangers fan is truly an interesting life.
These teams are from the same market, but one is irrelevant to the nation at large, seriously lacks passionate fans and has no history to speak of.
The other might arguably be the most successful team in the game since the modern league was formed, if not since they were first born, has a national following rivaled by few others in sports and appears on ESPN if a player sneezes.
Strangely, most of my life, the idea of the Rangers winning a World Series was something I couldn’t imagine ever happening, even in the late 90s, and the Cowboys winning another Super Bowl just seemed like destiny. That’s starting to change lately. . .
LOL, how funny would that be if the Jerrytron went dark?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Damn, we were trying to run it up
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
that call was probably more about getting the first to run the clock down
than it was about scoring.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Like the call though
Wade has been on point with virtually every 4th down decision this year imo. Pretty much the opposite of Parcells.
Before the season
Cowlishaw said he couldn’t see how the Cowboys could get past Philly and NY and win the division.
In hindsight well, we pounded Philly but NYG had our number..
The Giants...
were match up hell for the Cowboys. I bet Scandrick has nightly nightmares about Steve Smith.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
Man, I'd love to go to the game next week...
$111 is the cheapest on Stubhub at the top…
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Party pass it
Just get there early
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
heh.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
ha
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
He'll be back after the playoffs. Count on it.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
44-24 Chiefs...
that’s almost as embarrassing as the Cowboys performance in Philly last year with a playoff spot on the line.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:06 PM CST reply actions
Jamal Charles over 250 and 2 TDs, Derrick Johnson 2 def. TD's...
Maybe the Chiefs should draft Colt McCoy
I love the gameplan today though
Like I said, in seems the coaches get more creative in the biggest games, which is a good sign. Mainly, meaning a lot of blitzes today, seemed to throw McNabb off.
Back to back shutouts...
against NFC East rivals. That’s impressive as all hell.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:10 PM CST reply actions
Could they have called
Illegal hands to the face on Dallas against the Philly receiver on that? Just wondering.
NFC East...
Champs!
11-5 was right where I thought the team needed to be. I am excited for the playoffs.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
What chance did the media give us of that before the season? Little to none.
Yet it all means little without a win next week..
Everything is working out perfectly.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Well, glad to say that my prediction of 8-8 or 7-9 was way off.
Congrats, Cowboys, now beat their asses again next week.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I picked 9-7 to 11-5
10-6 being my expectation, give or take a win. So they pretty much hit the high end of my logical expectations, but emotionally they pounded by defeatest attitude in to submission.
Nice finish to the end of the season.
This team found heart they never knew they had. With a little confidence and a little fire in their ass, this team is capable of beating anybody.
The only question remaining now...
is if the Jets or Texans secure the final spot in the AFC. The Ravens At. Patriots, Eagles At. Cowboys, and Packers At. Cardinals are all set.
The Bengals are almost in a position of picking whom they want. Play to win and get the Texans. Rest the starters and go with game plan B to lose to the Jets and get them again next week.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:22 PM CST reply actions
so
just got home. how was the game? was phillyjust very vanilla? or did they actually try…‘cause if they did…that’s very impressive from the cowboys…
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
True
That was awesome how Rudy shut out the most explosive offense in football.
Good call, chuckles.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
One downside to getting the #3 seed...
is there’s no way to avoid the Vikings in the second round with a win.
A Wild Card game versus the Eagles again, Divisional Round versus the Vikings, and then the Saints in the title game would be a tough road to the Super Bowl. However, if the Packers or Cardinals beat the Saints in the Divisional round, and the Cowboys can beat the Eagles and Vikings, having a home NFC title game would be pretty sweet.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:29 PM CST reply actions
i like that last scenario, but let's win next week first
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Interestingly, I think the games get easier as they go on.
Yesterday’s results asside, the Eagles worry me the most of those teams, followed by the Vikings.
Usually...
there’s a team like the Texans or Jets that sneaks into the playoffs in each league, but the NFC this year is stout. The Eagles went from the #2 seed to start the day to the #6 seed at the end of the day. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see any of the six teams from the NFC in the Super Bowl. There’s no real Cinderella.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 6:34 PM CST reply actions
Congrats to the Cowboys and their fans.
Excellent December and season. Good luck in the playoffs.
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Up yours, freedom-hater
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
Joke, check previous replies in this thread
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
Happy to win but
damn you really don’t want to play a team back to back weeks. I am worried about next week.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
So
I’m feeling really good about this team heading into the playoffs. On a role, seem to be focused…this could be like the Giants team a few years ago that came in hot as a wild card and just kept winning.
This is how you would draw it up back in August
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
Precisely. As if it were in the sand.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Getting past the Eagles...
next week seems to be the biggest roadblock, to me. The toughest opponent after the Eagles in my eyes is the Packers and the Cowboys could only face them at home in the NFC Championship game.
If the Cowboys can get by the Eagles again, which will be no small feat, I think they could make a long run of it.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
The road goes on forever ..
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Jan 3, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Of course it might...
Beating any team in the NFC playoffs this year looks tough. There’s no cupcakes this season.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 3, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
It will
But I think that Brett Farve is eventually going to show that he’s 40 and not 25 anymore. Plus, Minn. has not played a defense that was playing like ours was ever sicne they played Pitt early in the year and they lost that one.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Right now I'm not sure we aren't playing the best football in the NFL.
What do voluntary mean?
Strong finish for Texans too
I like how up there AJM says the Texans need to fire Kubiak. Wait, I thought drafting and talen evaluation decided winners in the NFL? Dont the Texans have that great GM structure in place?
LOL, AJM knows it’s coaching that determines winning. When you fire your HC you almost always get new OC’s/DC’s too. It a complete reroll of the dice, and that’s why coaching changes pay off so frequently and so fast in the NFL.
What the Texans need to do is give their DC the Ron Washington lifetime contract to be the DC forever. Then fire Kyle Shanahan and Gary Kubiak and replace them with minorities in the interest of affirmative action. That’s what I think would be best.
does anybody else think it is crazy
that 3 of the exact games played this week are going to be rematches next week to start the playoffs
Eagles @ Cowboys
Packers @ Cardinals
Jets @ Bengals
the only new game will be
Baltimore @ New England
Has this ever happened before?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
And...
had the Raiders beaten the Ravens, all four games would have been repeats of match-ups from week 17.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jan 4, 2010 7:22 AM CST up reply actions
Except
The Texans fucked it up. Ahahaha. Poor Texans.
Kubiak is gonna be back next season I guess. Yay.
Fuck, if the Texans drop Frank Bush and get somebody decent, they’re going to be so scary next season. We cant let that happen guys.
AJM knows I’m right, he knows really hard in his heart Bush has to go and that the talent has nothing to do with it.
Hopefully, the Texans will fire Kyle Shanahan and replace him with a minority, and keep Bush.
That obviously shouldn’t matter since it’s just the players, so if there’s no objections can we do that guys?
Bill Cowher
Is wanting to go to Buffalo???
Why?
I mean, the NFL is a league where everybody has a chance, but why would you want to go to such a cold, tiny media market, little money, etc franchise??
All the people crying about Wade not pulling Romo
Why is Belichick catching little flak for Welker actually getting injured in a meaningless game?
Why did Reid not pull his starters?
Also, lines
According to Cowlishaws blog, well, I’ll just copy it
The only teams playing this week that didn’t meet Sunday are New England and Baltimore. Maybe for that reason (or maybe because people have just seen Joe Flacco throw too many passes this season), the Patriots are the heaviest favorite this weekend.
At four points!
Dallas is a 3 1/2-point favorite over a team it just beat by 24. Cincinnati is a 3-point favorite over a team it just lost to by 37. And Arizona is a 2 1/2-point favorite over a Green Bay team that just beat it on its home field by 26.
Cowboys only 3.5 over Eagles is odd, and a bit scary. I guess Vegas looks at things like that DeShaun Jackson miss, things could have been different. Still, it’s weird, we thoroughly dominated them. I’d expect the line to move the Cowboys direction.
Reid clearly held back a bit, I watched his postgame, they asked about Vick, he said they had a couple plays for Vick but didn’t use them as they “pulled back a little towards the end”.
Nobody who didn’t have much to play for showed their schemes Sunday. That’s why they lost.
He may have held back
Reid clearly held back a bit, I watched his postgame, they asked about Vick, he said they had a couple plays for Vick but didn’t use them as they "pulled back a little towards the end".
But Vick was the 3rd QB yesterday, so they weren’t going to use him unless it was an emergency.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 4, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
See
if I were the Eagles, I don’t know why you held back. If they would have won yesterday, they could have gotten a bye and the number 2 seed. I don’t really believe that they held back. That is the bullshit Reid will be telling everyone but I don’t believe it.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
I think maybe in the 2nd half they might have held back
But, I don’t believe it for one second that when the game started they had already given up.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
I think
the Eagles blitzed more in the 2nd half and McNabb and Jackson (who looked like he was injured) were in the whole game.
The one thing I noticed is that we didn’t see McCoy so they might have been trying to preserve/hide him for next week.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
Ummm
What I’m referring to is Reid talking about holding back only late in the game when it was pretty obvious the game was out of reach. That’s all.
He was basically saying yeah, we had a couple plays for Vick, but once the game got out of reach, we weren’t going to show them.
Of course they weren't going to show those Vick plays
because he was the 3rd string QB. If Vick plays, then the other 2 QB’s are ineligible for the remainder of the game.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
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