OT: Texans lose Shanahan/NFC East future etc

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 1:56 AM CST

So, apparentely Kyle Shanahan is head to Washington to join his Dad.

But Frank Bush remains? Yeah, not looking good Texans fans.

And the list the Texans are looking at to replace Shanny? Not looking good Cahill/AJm

Gailey at least is a known mediocre OC, probably even worse now that he must be like 80. The other two are unknowns with no playcalling experience AFAIK, so neither here nor there I guess.

Other candidates to replace Shanahan have ties to coach Gary Kubiak when he coached at Denver: Broncos offensive line coach Rick Dennison, Atlanta Falcons quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave and former Kansas City offensive coordinator Chan Gailey.

As for the NFC East, they say it's unknown whether Mike or Kyle will call the plays, but either way, it's going to be a step up from the pathetic recent skins. Mike was always decent although not great in Denver. The Giants fired their DC too. Reid keeps the Eagles at a high level year after year.

The bottom line is the division just generally gets tougher. With Giants replacing their DC and having Eli, Reid and the Eagles being good, and now Washington will probably greatly improve fast. It's just brutal.

The bottom line is the mighty drafting Texans could be headed for 5-11 next year lol. Cahill destroyed.

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The thing I don't understand with the Redskins is...

They hire a GM and tell him he’ll have full control… And then they hire Mike Shanahan and tell him he’ll have full control over all football decisions…

So… Um… Why hire the GM? Or why give Shanahan full control over football decisions when that was pretty clearly his undoing the last few years in Denver?

by N41D on Jan 6, 2010 2:07 AM CST reply actions

He's Shanahan's guy.

by brettgardner on Jan 6, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions

Shanahan is

completely irrelevant. Same offense with or without him.

They just need linemen and a running back.

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by DJCahill on Jan 6, 2010 5:13 AM CST reply actions

lol

right.

Texans are done.

Say, you luck out and whoever you get for Oc is just as good as Kyle Shanahan. So what? You’ve still got Frank Bush on the other side, so you gain nothing.

That’s IF you’re lucky, and replace Shanahan with somebody just as good. Odds are that wont even happen.

You can throw Kubiak in the mix, but historically he’s an 8-8 type of playcaller anyway.

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 5:43 AM CST up reply actions

No,

OCs don’t matter. Just players and coaches.

by DJCahill on Jan 6, 2010 5:49 AM CST up reply actions

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Players and coaches? OC’s not a coach?

Look I dont care what you think Cahill, we all know the truth here by now. You’re not stupid.

If you’d have kept Shanny and fired Bush, that team woulda been fricken 12-4+. Easy. You have tons of “talent”.

Frank Bush means your D is doomed to be weak. Now you have an uncertainty at OC too.

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 5:52 AM CST up reply actions

I watched the games

a bad kicker, a runner who fumbled a lot, and a team that would generally only show up for one half per game had more impact than Bush or Shanahan. Both are replaceable and won’t change the team that much. Coordianators are completely interchangeable.

by DJCahill on Jan 6, 2010 6:24 AM CST up reply actions

Uh-huh

Sure Cahill.

well then you should be pleased with Chan Gailey as your new coordinator and your 6-10 record next season.

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 7:18 AM CST up reply actions

Sharky, let me get this straight

You say this:

Look I dont care what you think Cahill,

Yet this entire fanpost appears to be devoted to picking a fight with the guy you apparently don’t care about.

Awesome.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jan 6, 2010 7:29 AM CST up reply actions

So, Gary Kubiak has nothing to do with the offense?

by octoberty on Jan 6, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions

I would bet he finds that offensive.

by Heebs on Jan 6, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions

Some, yeah

But he’s not the playcaller.

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions

Babe just threw out a pretty amazing stat

McNabb is 46-1 when he has a QB rating of 100 or greater

by octoberty on Jan 6, 2010 10:22 AM CST reply actions

Scared to death of Eagles game

Nah mean? Scared we’re gonna loooose.

There’s lots of reasons we should win though. One thing that gave me heart is some analyst I heard on the radio saying that if you shut down DeSean Jackson long plays, the Eagles cant do much else, they cant run the ball. And the Cowboys have Jay Ratliff etc, and the Eagles have that supposedly crappy center who cant block anybody, etc etc. I mean there’s lots of reasons on paper we can win.

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions

When has winning on paper ever meant anything in the playoffs?

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by rlb02a on Jan 6, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions

sigh

Why do people like to nitpick my comments by stating the ultra-obvious?

by Sharky on Jan 6, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions

Because

your entire post about the game did nothing but state the ultra-obvious. You mean the Eagles like to try and hit DeSean Jackson for big plays? The Eagles don’t run the ball well? Jay Ratliff is good? The Eagles lost their starting center and their new one is a question mark? My goodness what analysis. Why aren’t you on NFL Network Sharky?

"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 6, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions

His best one was

about they held back their plays once they got behind. They had a few plays for Vick but decided not to use them.

Uh yeah Vick was the 3rd QB for the game and was inactive so they couldn’t use him unless both McNabb and Kolb were injured

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 6, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions

Talking football with Sharky

is like talking football with a 12 year old. Lots of enthusiasm, lots of obvious statements, nothing really earth shattering or memorable.

"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 6, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions

And

Let me guess, you think football is all about drafting, you think fundamentals and the offensive line are key, you think Jerry Jones ruins the Cowvboys by meddling. You were really upset when Marc Colombo when down because, you just dont replace offensive linemen.

In other words, you’re the average moron Texas football fan.

by Sharky on Jan 7, 2010 12:00 AM CST up reply actions

x

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/index.asp?mm_file_id=8325&play_clip=y

That’s the clip I got the Vick thing from. It’s about halfway through. I just misinterpreted what he said and didn’t know Vick was inactive.

In response to a question (that is very hard to hear) about Vick he says “I had a couple things in for (Vick) this week, but then I just decided to kinda pull back at the end”"

Not realizing Vick was inactive, and not having fully heard the question, I understandably thought he was talking about in game. Excuuuuuuuuse me.

by Sharky on Jan 7, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions

Dude it was brought up about a dozen times in the GDT

each time we explained this to you but you wouldn’t comprehend what was going on even though based on your posting you knew we what we were talking about

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jan 7, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions