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Some actual news and stories and stuff out there today...

Anthony Andro writes that a team source has denied the Rangers have offered Vladimir Guerrero a 1 year, $7 million contract.  That seems a bit steep, in this economy, for a guy who is limited to DH and who looks to be on his last legs.  The source says the Rangers haven't made an offer.

Richard Durrett has a blog post up with some comments from Michael Young about new hitting coach Clint Hurdle.

Andro also has a story up about the Rangers hitting coach, with Hurdle saying that the offense has taken ownership of its problems last year.

T.R. Sullivan has a story up on Eric Hurley's return from injury, with Hurley currently doing long toss, and the plan being to bring him along slowly and have him start off in extended spring training at the beginning of the year.

Sullivan also has his Friday morning blogginess up.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Vlad here but...

he looks like he’s ready to break down at any moment. Wouldn’t Thome be a better fit?

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 8, 2010 8:09 AM CST reply actions  

Thome is less durable than Vlad

although Vlad’s OPS has taken big hits the last 2 years, last year was his lowest season avg at .295 (i know it’s prosaic to use avg), but he has a greater likelihood of rebounding, not only performance-wise but with his injury. Either way, they are both going downhill. Vlad is the best FA DH that is left at this point.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 8, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Anyone know who the pitchers are

that will be participating in a winter camp later this month?

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Jan 8, 2010 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

I'd forgotten how much useless BS he can fart into one of his "happy hour" posts

It’s like he intersperses the actual information in between shit only he would care about to force you to read the shit only he would care about.

If the Rangers were in the playoffs... the soundtrack could be one long continuous fart, and I would love it. - cmkelly

by LSJ on Jan 8, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Just for the heck of it...

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Jan 8, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I love the photo of Hurley in the story

is it possible that he incurred brain damage with his rotator cuff injury? He looks “special”, or if you like a less sensitive approach – “retarded.”

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 8, 2010 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

retarded is what retarded people are called, and what families of retarded people call the condition.

So it’s probably more of an insult to say special. I never got why people look at retarded as an insult to the actual retards. It’s only an insult to them if you use it as an insult, which I suppose you were doing.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jan 8, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I would never have called Oscar faggy had I known he was gay. You don’t call retarded people “retards”. That would be in bad taste. You call your friends “retards” when they’re acting retarded. And I consider Oscar to be my friend.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Jan 8, 2010 9:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

That is what a family I knew strongly believed in calling it. People have made it into an insult.

The condition is called mental retardation. You don’t call your friends retards because you’re using it as an insult when you really shouldn’t. Spend time thinking of an insult that actually applies to them, be creative when hurting someones feelings. People who have mental retardation are retarded, they are retards and that’s not an insult.

Too many idiotic people have turned into one.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jan 8, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

It also takes a really useful word out of the common useage

For example: Hurley’s progress as a pitcher has been retarded by his injury.

by other_shoe on Jan 8, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

"Support the Dutch Oven"

by RangerFloppy on Jan 8, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

"Support the Dutch Oven"

by RangerFloppy on Jan 8, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He looks into it.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jan 8, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

he needs an "I can haz chzburger?" caption on that photo

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Jan 8, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

It's pronounced ri-Tard!!!

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Jan 8, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

When making fun of people who are acting stupid,

I prefer the term “tard”. Re-tard is reservered for when they do it again.

Football=Fling... Baseball=Relationship

by Wemedge on Jan 8, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

to tard multiple times

polytard?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jan 8, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

to tard in late summer

Leotard.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 8, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

The Doctors time machine

TARDIS

"The pitcher has got only a ball. I've got a bat. So the percentage of weapons is in my favor..." Hank Aaron

by sunlegend54 on Jan 8, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

well done

nice

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jan 8, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hitters and Hurdle saying some good things.

Let’s get the winter over with and get this thing going.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jan 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

I was baiting Josey. I could use some troll abuse today.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jan 8, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey

we’re all a little rusty. Its the off season

by BEW on Jan 8, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

So the offense is "taking ownership" of it's shortcomings

I wonder/hope if that’s supposed to refer primarily to Kinsler and MY, so we don’t get anymore bullshit like “my swing is fine” or “we just need more energy” this season.

If the Rangers were in the playoffs... the soundtrack could be one long continuous fart, and I would love it. - cmkelly

by LSJ on Jan 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

What were MY's offensive shortcomings?

Or are your just talking about his attitude toward the team’s hitting.

by other_shoe on Jan 8, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Well he did suck with RISP, making his numbers less impactful on the actual wins than you'd think.

Of course, I think its a total fluke and nothing that you can make an adjustment for.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jan 8, 2010 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

After I posted I remember about his RISP

I tend to agree that there your ability to make adjustment is limited. On the other hand, if the overall problem with the team’s hitting stems from approach, it’s probably key for MY to embrace the change in approach, if he exercises the leadership often attributed to him.

by other_shoe on Jan 8, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

His RISP did feel like it was horrible. I haven't looked it up.

And I also remember everytime he’d come up to bat with a man on first it was always “MY DP”

Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?

by AceJC on Jan 8, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

You were probably going for edgy and funny, playing on the mistake in spelling in the original, but it comes across as sorry and inappropriate.

by mgb5 on Jan 8, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

your mom is sorry and inappropriate

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Jan 8, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

looks like mrs. young surfs lsb

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jan 8, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm talking about his attitude

“Needs more energy” is not an answer to anything baseball-related.

He was the best offensive player on the team last year, but I don’t expect him to repeat last season’s numbers ever again.

If the Rangers were in the playoffs... the soundtrack could be one long continuous fart, and I would love it. - cmkelly

by LSJ on Jan 8, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe there really wasn't anything wrong with their swing, just whether or not they should be

using their best power swing with every swing.

I don’t know what to think about all this optimism with the hitters. I’m much more skeptical than optimistic. And, I think it’s most likely that Hurdle will get great accolades for changing the offense than the truth that a good year just might mean that good hitters have good years.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jan 8, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

you’re picking 2 of the team’s 3 best offensive players from last season.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 8, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

7 mil may have been too much

but i liked the idea that something was finally moving forward.

its boring again. granted, it probably has no negative effect on the season.. but…. =(

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jan 8, 2010 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

hell, 10M gets you beltre...

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jan 8, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm really starting to want vlad on the team

Now that it probably won’t happen.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jan 8, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm still in favor of waiting to sign a DH

if they do, I think you can get Vlad or someone cheaper than that. The DH slot needs to be used to partially rest Hamilton, too, so Vlad might not be the best fit. I’m still in favor of Garko.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 8, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

OT:

I’m starting to get really antzy for the Cowboys game tomorrow. Like, can’t concentrate on anything antzy.

Is that wrong?

by philkid3 on Jan 8, 2010 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

I like the Cowboys tomorrow (teams that are getting great QB play and defensive play together are dangerous) but

the Elephant In The Room That Won’t Quit Farting is that Wade has never won a playoff game and Andy Reid is 7-0 in Wild Card games.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09

by Josey Wales on Jan 8, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

sounds like a herd of elephants

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Jan 8, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

It was then I received the Victoria Cross for bravery above and beyond the call of duty. Ha ha! Those were the days. Discipline! Discipline was the thing! Builds character, and all that sort of thing, you know.

by kevinkinsler on Jan 8, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Espirit de Corps. That’s the way I earned my commission in the Majarajah’s Fifth Pachyderm Brigade. Back in ’88 it was. Or… or was it?

"The pitcher has got only a ball. I've got a bat. So the percentage of weapons is in my favor..." Hank Aaron

by sunlegend54 on Jan 8, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Isn't the "elephant in the room" the thing that no one is talking about?

Don’t get me wrong, I like the farting part of the metaphor, but Wade’s playoff record is well trammeled ground.

by other_shoe on Jan 8, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

No. Im with you. I just want it to be going and be done with

Because I have no clue what the Cowboys will do, I need to know.

by octoberty on Jan 8, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Thats about right.

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi

by coolaid on Jan 8, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 8, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I predict that the Chargers pull the biggest choke job out of anyone in the playoffs.

So much hype surrounding them right now….so many people predicting them to win the Super Bowl….I predict they lose their first game to the Pats.

by Drew062682 on Jan 8, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

Pats get beat by Balt this week.

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon

Drew effing Gooden??? F U Donnie.

by AirJordan on Jan 8, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

No reason why Balt can't win

The Pats can’t run, they can’t play defense that well. And Tom Brady will throw you an interception, right now.

by octoberty on Jan 8, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

No That is usually reserved for the Cowboys, well of late anyway

you just never know which cowboys team will show up, i hope it’s the one from last weekend.

by TRFAN on Jan 8, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

it's not ideal

considering it is tomorrow night. I am trying to put it out of my head until at least 6pm tomorrow. And I am also trying to keep my expectations low, cause ti is the cowboys

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Trying is the key word

I can’t help but look at our body of work the last few weeks and think…. maybe, just maybe..

by octoberty on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Is it because you fell like they're going to lose?

Cause they will.

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon

Drew effing Gooden??? F U Donnie.

by AirJordan on Jan 8, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Norm needs to lay off the acid

Cowboys by 14-28 points? That just won’t happen.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Jan 8, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

My alphabits cereal says the Rangers offered Vlad a one year deal worth 10 bucks and 2 new knees.

And not knew nees.

Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."

by Pocket Ninja on Jan 8, 2010 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

Tim Brown on Ranger DH - no formal offers have been extended

Nothing really new here, just a new voice telling us that there are several DH candidates and not many landing spots for them.

What a drag it is being broke.

by tricer on Jan 8, 2010 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

you know

assuming 7M is in the ballpark for what vlad will get, it helps vlad that this rumor was leaked.* I’m pretty sure the original rumor said it was a texas official that told him that they had offered vlad 7M.

I wonder how often journalists make up stories like this. It’d be real simple and impossible to verify. An agent goes to a good friend and asks that he leak a story that X team offered Y amount of money. Would you ever be able to prove it wrong?

*If the number is actually much higher than anyone was considering for vlad, teams might just move on to a different candidate and assume vlad will just sign with the rangers

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

*teams might just move on*

I think the opposite is the desired effect, to drive the price UP.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jan 8, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah thanks, captain obvious

my point was that if you overshoot with your leak, it has the effect of chilling interest in the player

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

You are grouchy this morning...

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jan 8, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Alex Colome

was in fact KG’s Feliz comparison.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 8, 2010 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

Damn Rays

Hey, if it helps them beat the MFYs, I’m all for it.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jan 8, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, give the Yanks

a Colomoscopy.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 8, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

you're in bad form today

colomoscopy AND Leotard?

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jan 8, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

Those are awesome. Now pull my finger.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jan 9, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

i giggled.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 9, 2010 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

He gave them

five five star prospects, four of them SPs. That should help.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 8, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy Hell

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jan 8, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jan 8, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

impressive

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 8, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Matt Moore

Far worse walk rate than Font, albeit with a higher K rate.

Somebody explain that one to me.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jan 8, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Dominating stuff

Despite the high walk rate, he seems a good deal closer to being a complete product than Font, and his K rate isn’t just a little higher. It’s 12.8-12.9 at every level.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 9, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Chris Gentry and a Craig Gentry mention in the same Andro post

I thought we traded Chris with Neftali Perez

I still believe!

by LSU Ranger on Jan 8, 2010 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

ok

am I the only one who thinks the whole Neftali Perez bit is getting a little tired?

by ramjam36 on Jan 8, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Vlad

okay, say the Rangers can convince Vlad to take $5 million a year – which obviously makes a lot more sense than $7 million – but it requires a two year deal. Do you do it?

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jan 8, 2010 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

vesting option

which is still risky because he could suck without getting injured

by ab03 on Jan 8, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Rangers locking up Vlad!?

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2338&sn=t

A source has informed Jim Bowden of Sirus XM that the Rangers are finalizing a one-year contract with Vladimir Guerrero.
It’s probably worth noting that Bowden has been wrong before.
Source: Jim Bowden on Twitter
Related: Rangers

by texasrfan on Jan 8, 2010 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

Clint Hurdle looks like he could kill a man with his bare hands.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 9, 2010 7:35 AM CST reply actions  

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