ALCS Clinching Linkaliciousness
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 23, 2010 4:01 PM CDT
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Some links to various items around the interwebs, in the aftermath of yesterday's clinching Game 6...
Joel Sherman has an interesting piece in the New York Post about torch-passing. Sherman points out that, in the 1996 playoffs, the Yankees, with a rookie shortstop named Derek Jeter, beat the Orioles, who had an aging and past-his-prime Cal Ripken, Jr., at short. Now, says Sherman, Elvis Andrus is playing the role of Jeter, the young, dynamic shortstop debuting in the playoffs, and providing a contrast with the once-great Jeter, whose time has passed.
Ian O'Connor says the Yankees showed a lack of heart and resolve while being steamrolled by the Rangers.
Rob Neyer has a postscript on the series.
FanGraphs did a live chat of the game yesterday, and you can read the transcript here.
Andrew Marchand at ESPN New York says the Yankees' season was a failure.
T.R. Sullivan writes about Rangers third base coach Dave Anderson returning to the World Series 22 years after he was on the World Series winning 1988 Dodgers, where he had a key role as a decoy before Kirk Gibson's game-winning homer.
David Pinto is a fan of Jon Daniels.
FoxSportsSouthwest.com has a piece on the greatness of Josh Hamilton.
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The Texas Rangers are going to The World Series!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
by Bob Loblaw on Oct 23, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And about 500 other stories, too
Unbelievable? Naw, this team had signs since the beginning of the year of being able to make it all the way. Can’t wait for the Series to start.
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
My dad just raised an interesting point: is Wash the new Yogi Berra?
He’s a quote machine and as the team’s national prominence grows, the legend of his quotes will only grow.
“That’s the way baseball go” might be the new “it’s deja vu all over again.”
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 23, 2010 4:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
absolutely
if he’s on the market, you’d be stupid not to take a look into it. Now aggressively go after him is a different story. That said, JD is a pretty damn good GM and if they want Greinke, he’ll find a way and we will all be left to sit in utter amazement.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
Lee, Greinke, CJ, Colby, Holland
I jizzed so hard.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I have been
on the computer all day….I want to read every article written about last nite’s greatness
Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules
by AndrusImpersonator on Oct 23, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
I asked my family..
if they could find a DMN or a ST to send me along with basically everything related to the playoff run, merch-wise.
I've gone as far..
As asking people like Jason Cole to mail me one from Austin and offering far above what a newspaper costs to send it. We’ll see.
Serenity now, insanity later.
-Lloyd Braun
by Kevin McBrayer on Oct 23, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I was up at 4AM raiding the QuikTrip
The clerk at the one near me—north of Fort Worth—said they’d been dropped off 15 minutes prior to my getting there. FWST had left twice the usual stack of papers (so, around 20), but DMN only had 5. Good luck finding them, especially with all the rain.
I got 1 copy early this morning
Haven’t found another one since.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I have an extra Startlegram, if you want it
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
What a glorious day.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
on JD
Everyone of his trades were great to good to solid trades when they were made (outside of the Buck driven Eaton trade).
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
**and signings.
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
yeah
you saying Harden wasn’t a good sign at the time it was made? Guzman and Cantu were not bad when u give up nothing…
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Neyer is a douche
Yes, everyone thinks the Yankees are better. Don’t let performance change your mind on that.
I've really grown to dislike him in the last few weeks
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 23, 2010 4:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, between the Ron Washington bashing...
…and his insistence that the Yankees are “better” (which, clearly, they are not. They may be deeper, but depth isn’t the most important quality in a team) when he ought to know better, I’m starting to get really annoyed with him.
The Rangers dominated this series. You don’t dominate teams that are better than you. Sometimes you beat better teams, when everything falls into place for you, but you don’t beat them like this. Not in a series.
At the very few points this year when the Rangers had their entire lineup in place, they have been as good as anyone.
Well
The Yankees performed better over the course of the season. That’s generally a better gauge of who the better team is than a short series.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 23, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Rangers didn't have Cliff Lee all year
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Trying to determine
which team is the “best” is kind of a silly thing anyway. Certainly with some of the posts on LSB you would have thought this team was terrible after the Baltimore or Twins series.
That’s why you probably should do what you can to make the playoffs when you can. You never know who is gonna be hot in the postseason.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Over the last couple of years
I’ve really stopped expecting more from him.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
eh
it entirely depends on your definition.
We had this discussion before due to Neyer. Which team is constructed to the most games over a 162 game series? The Yankees. Their depth, their rotation, their bullpen – all better setup than the Rangers for that.
Which team is best constructed to win a playoff series, one where 6 of the 7 games are started by the 1-3 starters? The Rangers. Easily.
While Neyer will go to his grave knowing that the Yankees were the better team this year, I’ll go to mine knowing that the Rangers are winning that playoff series 70% of the time. If all healthy and offdays every 4 days, the Rangers will prevail most of the time.
So better? Regular Season the Yankees. But as a playoff team? Texas. This is NOT an example of “anyone can win”
Go Rice Owls!
I think the difference in definitions is key.
I think much of the annoyance with Neyer is a result of a seeming desire to avoid giving the alternate definition much consideration. Its also annoying to me because I get that the playoffs are relatively small samples in which “anyone can win” but, like you, I don’t think this is the case here.
I think a big part of it for me is that I have constantly been explaining to various people that the Rangers are better than you would think if you weren’t following the team closely — or to be more precise they are capable of playing really inspiring, beautiful baseball when they can put it all together out on the field. That last part certainly involves luck, but I don’t think it is reducible to luck.
I'm just not convinced they are the better team.
I would take the Rangers outfield over the Yankees….they are better at 1b, 2b and 3b. Rangers are better at SS. Molina has impressed me throughout the playoffs. Lee sang his praises after the NY game but I would like have a better bat at catcher.
The Rangers pitching staff with Lee is clearly better than NY. Give me Lee, Wilson, Lewis, Hunter/Holland over CC, Hughes and Pettitte, Burnett.
Maybe I’m wrong….it could just be the “homer fan” in me. However, the Pinstripe Alley poster said something that I thought was spot on….the Rangers made the Yankees look old.
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get how the Yankees are still the better team?
Over a full season? Maybe, with the Rangers health issues obviously going to always be a concern. But look at the teams both sides had for this series. The Rangers SP in each game at the very least matched up with the Yankees SP and in the case of Lewis/Hughes and Lee/Pettitte, the Rangers had a clear advantage. The bullpens for both teams were somewhat shaky with the Yankees having no one outside of Wood and Rivera while the Rangers had better depth but didn’t really have that same kind of dominating RP.
And then you look at the offense both teams had. Maybe 2 or 3 years ago, the lineup the Yankees had would have looked great, but A-Rod, Berkman, Jeter, and Posada aren’t the same players that they used to be and with the Tex injury, its barely even a contest.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
at this point the Yankees are not even in the same class as the Rangers
the Rangers in my opinion may be the best team in Baseball
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
Not in the same class?
Ok that’s ridiculous.
I’d stack the current Rangers roster up against any team in baseball right now. They have just beaten probably the best two teams in baseball to get to the WS. But to say those teams aren’t even in the same class is blind homerism.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
you can call me a blind homer as well because i agree with him
I really have a dislike for the NY Yankees and their Stupid Ass Shitty Inbred Guido fans. - The Texas Rangers are the new team of destiny.
+1
The Yankees are old farts. Their payroll bullying ways will just leave them with a lineup full of 20 million dollar senile bums. Cano is a superstar, but other than him and Tex they got nothing.
Troller formerly know as Cowboysaficionado.
So, I decided I'd try to find a pair of tickets to Game 3 on stubhub...
Holy. Shit. Anyone have an opinion whether prices will go up or down after the NL opponent is determined? It’s ridiculous right now.
On that note...
…please tell Mr. Molina that we’re all hoping for a happy reunion of sorts.
Then, of course, to crush his spirit, of which – like all the rest of him, including his ability (but not his running ability) is large.
Congratulations, Texas.
Welcome to baseball’s biggest stage!
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He may not be Buster Posey, but he beats the shit out of our options prior (which isn't saying much).
"I don't do a straight up Mitch for Butler" -- booyakasha
I watched him toss a runner out the other day.
Yes, that’s the correct verbiage.
Buster, for all his heralded…ness…hasn’t done as much postseason.
Hey, I’ll not argue with success (unless said arguing is against future Philadelphia success)
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, So I'm reading all my emails..
I come across Jamey’s email from early this morning with the clips of Eric Nadel’s calls and I download each to my iTunes folder. iTunes says I have 505 albums, 18.2 days of music, 49.24 GB, and is set to random play.
download 1: Cruz’s HR. Song played immediately after is The Cure Just Like Heaven.
download 2: Feliz final out. Song played immediately after is Sting If I Ever Lose My Faith In You.
My iTunes is a fan.
Awesome
Serenity now, insanity later.
-Lloyd Braun
My best picture from last night
Nellie Cruz HR
by ravscloC on Oct 23, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
i still want to know why those 2 sections are empty
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Some kind of VIP section where people came and went..
Been like that all ALCS
They had HDTVs out in those sections too, where the trashcans usually are!
Does that mean there are HDTVs in the trashcans?
Because this damned Sun Microsystems CRT makes crappy images.
(gets ready to hitch down from Phoenix on I – 10)
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That is the auxiliary pressbox
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
That is great!
And now it’s my new wallpaper.
Thanks.
Serenity now, insanity later.
-Lloyd Braun
by Kevin McBrayer on Oct 23, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully you can download a higher res here..
http://picasaweb.google.com/CoreyMatthew/WSBound?authkey=Gv1sRgCLqJ_ZOLkPu_6QE#5531374442138186866
It’s going to be my wallpaper too…. for a long time!
For some reason, I'm really interested in the whole Jeter free agency issue.
What do they do with him? He’s obviously lost a step or two at SS and had a bad year hitting (OPS down from .871 in 2009). I’m thinking 2009 was an anomaly.. he’s been steadily declining 2006…2006 OPS was .900
2010 BA OBP SLG OPS
.270 .340 .370 .710
Does he take less money to stay? Does he stay at SS?
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
It is very interesting
I think it is a lot more entertaining when you aren’t a Yankee fan. It has the potential to be a complete train wreck.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 23, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
This is especially true given the perception of Jeter in New York.
While I’m sure a lot of the hardcore Yankee fans understand that Jeter has declined in recent years, I’m sure many of their more casual fans don’t. As such, NOT re-signing him would likely be a really ugly PR situation.
Also, do they have a viable replacement, even if they didn’t?
Eduardo Nunez supposedly. Wonder if they’ve thought about moving Cano over to SS. Agile, big arm, might work.
The years and money are one thing ...
the tussle over his future role might be the sticking point in negotiations. Surely you don’t sign him big money unless he agrees not to throw a hissy fit when you soon turn him into a super-utility guy.
also, would any other team really even make an earnest attempt to sign him?
Jeter’s golden rep make take quite a hit if he tries to back the team into a corner when he doesn’t really have much leverage unless other suitors emerge.
10/2 - The legend is about to grow exponentially. Josh Hamilton is about to become the most talked about athlete in the world.
It'd be hilarious if he signed with the Royals or something like that
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't image another team wanting him at SS...does someone else come
around and ask him to move to 2nd? Even then, he made $21 mil last year…what would that team be willing to pay for an aging 2b? One thing I do know is that I don’t envy Cashman at all….
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
If I was a team with playoff aspirations
I can’t imagine wanting to sign him for more than a year or two at 10 million a year or so.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Would he take a 50% pay cut?
I guess he would, if the Yankees leave him no choice…..what a slap in the face that would be to Jeter and a PR nightmare for Cashman…..
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't imagine he will
I imagine he will end up being grossly overpaid by NY, who can afford to grossly overpay.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
That spot's reserved for MY....
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
It is odd how the Jeter and MY situations mirror each other, though....
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. It will be interesting not only to see
what the Yankees offer him, but to see if it blows up into a media circus. It’s got media mess written all over it, but to Jeter’s credit, i think he’s less likely to air grievances in the press than most.
They're not really in the biz of saving money. He will wilt away as a starting SS in pinstripes.
"I don't do a straight up Mitch for Butler" -- booyakasha
Posted this in another thread on request...
…then realized that whoever requested it might not think to look back that far for it, and that someone else might want it.
It’s not exactly professional quality—I took it with my phone—but I think it’s beautiful nonetheless (and is my current wallpaper)
Full size version here
So awesome that this happened...
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 13 recs
Wow, this is my favorite gif ever.
Ever.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
I love how they hardly even wait for the pitch to hit Molina's glove
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Whoa, your guys run fast.
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You have outdone yourself with this one.......
WOW!!! That is simply incredible!!!
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 23, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
American league champion Texas Rangers, may I help you?
This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.
by BigGuns on Oct 23, 2010 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Was there last night.
So Awesome. Unbelievable Joy. Cried. Stayed. Wow. Saw the first home game in Arlington in 1972, saw the best home game in Arlington last night.
Ah...
Finally the Elvis is a post season hero story that I’ve always wanted.
Thanks, Sherman.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
the last 5 minutes of the game from the upper deck, all hell breaks loose in a good way..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLuzx3u_eYs
This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.
So...
…anyone get around to telling Filip Bondy to kiss our ass yet?
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