Cliff Lee's Wife Likes Texas, Doesn't Like the Yankees
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 26, 2010 1:40 AM CDT
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When momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
And thus, based on what Kristen Lee, the wife of Cliff Lee, is saying, ain't nobody in the Lee household gonna be happy if Lee signs with the Yankees.
Bob Nightengale has a story about Cliff Lee that includes a lot of talk about his impending free agency and the assumption that the Yanks are going to moneywhip him.
But it also includes a lot of quotes from Cliff's wife Kristen that leads you to believe that the Rangers may have a better chance than many think.
Some excerpts:
Lee's eerie calm, which leads to his confidence, may come from his 9-year-old son, Jaxon. Lee carried him in his arms, clutching him tightly, during the celebration on the field after the Rangers won the pennant.
Jaxon was just four months old when he was diagnosed with acute myelogen leukemia. He was given a 30% chance to live, Kristen says. He went through chemotherapy, and later radiation treatment and a stem cell transplant. Today, he is in remission, and a vibrant, healthy boy.
"After we went through that," Kristen says, "Cliff knows that baseball isn't life or death."
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It has been long assumed that Lee, who is earning $9.6 million this season, would end up a Yankee, given that they spent $243.5 million on two starters the last time they failed to reach the World Series in 2008. Those two starters now are ready to recruit him: CC Sabathia is one of Lee's best friends and a former teammate in Cleveland, and A.J. Burnett is another Arkansas native, who like Lee, is a client of agent Darek Braunecker.
Yet, Lee and Kristen say, the Dallas-Fort Worth area feels like home to their family, which includes daughter Maci, 7. They are just a 40-minute flight from their hometown of Benton, Ark.; they are moving into a restored 1927 house in Little Rock this winter.
They attended the same middle and high schools, and their families and friends still live there.
"That's the greatest thing, being so close to home," says Kristen, who says she is superstitious and refuses to answer her phone when Lee pitches.
"Cliff can fit in anywhere, but it makes my life a lot easier. We've never had a short commute before. Having a direct flight from Little Rock is great."
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Perhaps the Rangers' greatest sales pitch simply was having Kristen sit in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium during the playoffs. She says there were ugly taunts. Obscenities. Cups of beer thrown. Even fans spitting from the section above.
"The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen says.
"When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."
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I hope Mamma gets her way
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
heres a pick from SBB taken by Misty May
of Yankee fans spitting on them…what trash
Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules
by AndrusImpersonator on Oct 26, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
this says that Cliff Lee Will be a Ranger next year
When momma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy.
That is something that ALL married men know and Firmly believe in!!!
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"There is a fine line between Genius and Insanity"-Unknown Author
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Oct 26, 2010 1:58 AM CDT reply actions
You forgot OJ
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
But if they sign for enough money,
they can always hire Adam von MarriageSmasher and get happy.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
It's was hilarious
Fans seemed supremely confident that Cliff Lee would be wearing the pinstripes in ’11; they were throwing it our faces. Of course, they also threw beer and obscenities, which seemed like an odd marketing tactic, especially when it was obvious that the Rangers section in question housed player wives, etc.
check that ...
I refuse to get suckered in by crap like this. I’ll believe he signs a lower offer when he signs it.
"Don't let them do this to you."
well as a married man myself
If my wife told me that she would rather live someplace, but that would mean that I would have to take a pay cut, I would take the Pay Cut.
Though frankly,bearing in mind that anything over 6 figures per year is beyond my mere mortal mind, the difference between 20 million and 25 million per year over 5or 6 years guaranteed just doesn’t seem like that much of a sacrifice.
"Of all the things I have lost , I miss my mind the most-Random T-shirt
"There is a fine line between Genius and Insanity"-Unknown Author
Texas Rangers-2010 AL Division Champs-World Series Bound
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Oct 26, 2010 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions
a'la Tony Gwynn
When he sat down and signed what was considered a VERY team friendly deal with San Diego so he would retire there. The union wasn’t happy…but the union has no footing in MAKING a player take a higher salary.
The union fights for a players choice..once the choice gets there..it’s that players choice.
Do you remember when Tes was in his last year here...
and he said that one of his reasons for not accepting the Rangers offer to extend him was he wanted to do the right thing for the union and explore the FA market?
8/180? (or whatever it was)
Yeah, what a team player.
It epitomizes why Gwynn was and always will be beloved in SD and Tex will only be beloved by his wife and kids…and jury is still out about his kids.
Well, I think it might tip the scales if the offers are very close
but that’s about it.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Yep
it makes for a tie-breaker, but if the Yankees are going 7/175 or something absurd and we can only go 5/100, I doubt it spans the offers.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
7/175 even they know they can't keep this contract pace up.
The Yankees are going to be in bad shape in about 3-5 years once these guys age and they aren’t living up to the contracts. A-Rod will be DH along with Tex. Jeter is a statue, Burnett sucks, Sabathia will be good, but I sense some regression.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Seems to be the Yankee way
overpay and carry ridiculous terms on contracts (see Sabathia) and carry people way past their prime. That’s why I’m always amused at folks calling Cashmen a genius. I don’t see it coming to an end anytime soon.
I’d say 7/175 is absurd, but honestly, after seeing 7/161 for Sabathia, I don’t think it is out of the realm of possibility for the yanks.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
whew...7/175...if that ends up being their offer,
good luck with all that…..
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd be shocked if he got 7 years
since he’s what? 3 years older than CC was when he signed?
I agree though that all this wife-speak doesn’t matter unless the offers are relatively close.
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 26, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
CC was 28 in his first season as a Yankee
Lee would be 32.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Yeah ok 4 years then
Even less likely he gets 7 years.
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
No, they can afford it
or they wouldn’t do it. Their payroll was over $200M this year, how much additional did they pay in luxury tax? If they want Lee they will be able to outbid the Rangers.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
They'll pay 1.5x his annual salary all-told.
So if he costs them $20 million per season in salary, they’ll pay $30 million to have him.
I don’t think it’s a given that the Yankees outbid every offer, though it is a given that they want him.
Cliff Lee will be a Texas Ranger in 2011.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
I don't think the luxury tax is 50%
that seems high. I think I read 40% somewhere recently but I don’t know what the trigger is.
I think if TX is willing to get up to about $25M per over 6 years, the Yankees will have to think twice. But they really to add a stout pitcher, especially if Pettite retires. I’m looking forward to watching this play out in the offseason. The Yankees will really feel the need to add Lee, the Rangers will feel the need to keep him just as strongly.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
The luxury tax cap is around 180M for next year.
Assuming they’re over it regardless of whether or not they sign Lee, they’d be paying 40% (according to the sites I’ve found googling) of Lee’s money back to the league as a 3+ time repeat violator (if the Rangers managed to somehow go over it next year, they’d only pay 17.5% of the amount over the cap).
40%, that's what I read last week, too
So if the Yankees offer $25M per year, they’re really paying $35M. I still think they’d be willing to do that. But the advantage to the Rangers is if they are willing to match that $25 million, Lee may feel there’s no reason to go to NY. And then for every dollar TX offers above that, the Yankees have to offer $1.40.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
And no state income tax, so our offer of 25 would be equal to their offer of what? 33? 31?
I loved Chuck’s line. “We’re not going into it with a pea shooter. Those days are over.”
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Hey Arod. You're fucking out. And we're fucking in.
"If we do that," Lee says, "it would be hard to walk away."
by Brian Thomas on Oct 26, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Belay that
I was thinking federal rates. it would probably only mean 1 to 2 million per yr in state taxes.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Hey Arod. You're fucking out. And we're fucking in.
"If we do that," Lee says, "it would be hard to walk away."
by Brian Thomas on Oct 26, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Still nothing to sneeze at, though
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
state and city taxes
would gobble up somewhere slightly north of $2.25 million a year not to mention having to spend considerably more to have a home in the vacinity of the stadium which would cost more than something similar in Texas plus any business ventures he would want to start in the area…Yankees are going to have to pay out the wazoo to get him to a team that he just beat out of the playoffs
When I heard that on your podcast
I was pretty stunned. It seems inconceivable that they would do something like that, when considering the circumstances.
Then again, it’s New York.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Admit it Parks. You egged them on.
God bless you!
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
He apparently also had a homoerotic moment with some Rangers fan in West Point gear
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 26, 2010 7:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Revenue Standpoint
“Everyone in Arkansas thinks the world of him,” says family friend Larry Crain, 69. “Little Rock has historically been Cardinals territory. But you see more and more Rangers fans now. They’re even wearing his jersey.”
How do the Rangers earn revenue from converting other cities fans to their team? Apparel sales? Ticket Sales are a bit of a stretch for Little Rock, but the possible quantitative advantage of marketing a guy like AR-native Lee have to factor into the Rangers bottom line number. Gate receipts shot up I’m sure during Lee’s appearances this year.
Ben - The artist formerly known as - jihana
Does FS Southwest cover Arkansas? Or do they get FS South or FS St. Louis?
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by Jamie DeVriend on Oct 26, 2010 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions
FS Southwest does indeed go to Arkansas
you can check the schedule on the FSSW website and allusions are made to Arkansas all through it. They do however get Cardinals and Royals games (when and where applicable) either on the main channel or the plus channel or through their satellite provider.
Games on FS Midwest are not blacked out as they would be on someone in Texas TV (if you have a package that includes all of the additional regional networks). This is because Arkansas is Rangers/Astros/Royals/Cardinals territory (So they would all be blacked out on MLB.tv). Here is the map of note for team territories
great stuff
If we win the series, I’d give us a better than 50% shot… Before these playoffs I thought we might have a shot, but not much better than 30 percent, but this team has the kind of magic that we may yet be able to bind Lee to us for a good while
The Ranger's will win the AL pennant by 2013
If we win the world series
And the offers are perhaps similar, I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t choose Texas
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Oct 26, 2010 2:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
as soon as I heard
about the dry celebration for Hamilton I immediately picked them to win it all…shows great teamwork
OT:
What officially puts your town on the map? A Walmart or Two Whataburgers?
Ben - The artist formerly known as - jihana
Such an odd cat, but such an awesome writer
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I'm a big fan of James
Some of his stuff is a little too “out there” for me, politically speaking, but he’s a great songwriter.
Choctaw Bingo is an all-time favorite of mine.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
His shows at Shady Grove
are some of my best memories in Austin. Hurricane Party is such a great song.
"Sometimes I'm Bill Buckner, baby. Sometimes I'm Willie Mays." -dariustx
yeah he gets a bit out there
Choctaw is greatness. I’m going to see him in Gruene in November
Hup Holland Hup
You're an Archer City Wildcat, I take it?
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Wichita Falls... (close enough)
Hes a Midwestern graduate like myself…. he has a house off 1954 out there
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 26, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
where you can 2nd hand 3 packs per hour
the food’s not bad though
by davisisnothesoluti on Oct 26, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Where else you gonna go?
they have archer city locked down
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
I go to the Lucky Dollar when I'm in AC
by davisisnothesoluti on Oct 26, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Dang, didn't realize there was anywhere else.
I asked the clerk and she said the Cafe or Nocona
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
it's at the south end of town
in a gas station, but it’s a full cafe with sandwiches, burgers, lunch specials etc – I’ve never had a bad meal there
by davisisnothesoluti on Oct 26, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
cool
haven’t been back there in a couple years, but if I make it back I’ll check it out
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
archer city country club
has crown and cokes.. like 3 shots and a splash of coke for like 5 bucks… and im pretty sure i shot the course record out there but didnt tell anyone since its just pasture golf…. I like Archer city.. nice little quiet town….
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Walmart, no question
Whataburger is good but people will drive upwards of 50 miles for the sole reason of shopping at a Walmart.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 26, 2010 7:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I've started paying attention to the prices now.
Not much difference between Wal-Mart and United in price of the foods I buy. Target is about the same as well. Usually United/Target has the things I need. Wal-Mart seems to be running out of things and doesn’t have them in stock.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
My wife has been saying for months that Wal-mart's prices have been going up...a lot.
We are now HUGE fans of ALDI…….love that place….
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I should clarify my post above
It’s not so much as the greatness of Walmart that drives them 50+ miles. But in rural areas, it’s far and away the best (sometimes only) choice for shopping. And the town that has a Walmart is like the Mecca of the area.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
ALDI?
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Yeah....they are pretty new around here....
no name brands, cash only, just bland store but the prices are insanely low and the quality of the stuff is just as good.
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah.
Lubbock got a Sun Harvest Market, basically a farmers market in store, lots of organic. They have a very good meat market, which Lubbock really doesn’t have (shocking I know). They use the Nolan Ryan beef and I was shocking surprised how good it was compared to what I’ve eaten the past 12 years, since the meat market we bought stuff closed.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
When we lived in Dallas, my wife went crazy about ALDI.
You can use debit cards there, btw, just no checks.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
That's right....forgot about debit cards...
we’ve gone the all cash/all the time route….
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought.
But the price savings are well well worth it. I love that store.
Benefits and fraud protection.
I don’t have any kind of cash back on either of my debit cards.
And when I had some fraudulent charges made to one of my credit cards a couple of years ago, it didn’t actually take any money away from me, even while they were sorting it out. The charges themselves counted against my limit, and then after I alerted the company they were just held in limbo (don’t think they even counted against the limit, at this point) until they investigated and cleared them off. A friend of mine had some fraudulent charges made on his debit card around the same time, and didn’t get the money put back until they finished investigating it. So he was actually missing that money for a while. I want to minimize the ability of anyone to actually take money out of my account, since I need that money for paying bills and all, whereas I don’t need all of my credit limit.
Yep
I use one of my credit cards for all my expenses, and pay it off each month.
Much better than a debit card.
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 26, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Same here.
I love getting cash-back rewards for purchases that I would have made even without the card.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
I do the same
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 26, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly how I spend 95% of my money
that isn’t paid automatically by ETF.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Indeed....
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
United > HEB
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
THIS
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
United is the shiznit
Great stores and an incredibly well-run company.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Agreed. I worked at the store level for 4 years during high school and the first year of college.
After growing up in Lubbock, the stores here aren’t as good, but I was usually at the stores closest to the corporate office, which led to a very tight run ship. The stores were usually top in the company sales per week (beating out the DFW locations w/o beer, wine, liquor sales; now with Lubbock wet sky is the limit).
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Yeah, I've definitely noticed a difference in the Abilene stores and the Lubbock stores
They opened the Market Street at 98th & Quaker during my first year of law school. I lived like 90 seconds from that store. I’ve hated grocery shopping my entire life, but I looked for reasons to visit Market Street.
Their mini-convenience store out front is an outstanding idea too.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Yes.
I worked at that store when it was in Kingsgate, which was awesome store, cause it was small and you could get in and out relatively quickly. I initially didn’t like the Market Street there, because it was crazy busy, I had just transferred from the 50th & Indiana MS, which at that point was the busiest store in the city and chain. So I liked the slower pace, especially if I was stocking the shelves.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Yeah, I only went in the 50th & Indiana MS once, because I was at the law school and had to go pick up something for a law school meeting
That place was insane.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I never liked it that much, too cramped.
The stores are super cramped now with beer sales.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
I bet so
I’m still surprised that alcohol passed by as much as it did. I thought it would pass, but by a razor-thin margin.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I didn't think it was pass when it did, maybe the next bond election.
The issue was the city was going to have to annex “The Strip” on the Tahoka highway and people were tired of going out there and made at the owners (all the stores out there are owned by the same people). The tax revenue is going to be pretty large, I don’t think United sells liquor, just beer and wine.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Have the stores on the Strip closed down yet?
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Not yet, I don't think they ever will honestly.
I think Doc’s is putting a store in town, but don’t quote me. I was home all summer, but didn’t really go anywhere but work, internship, church and Ralphs(used record store) cause of my knee scope. I’m not the best person to ask since I don’t partake in the products they sale ha.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Haha, I don't either, driving by the Strip is my closest knowledge of it
Ralphs is a cool place, I liked to go in there and just wander around looking at all the good music. I could have dropped a load of cash in there if I wasn’t careful. I did buy an Old Crow Medicine Show CD once though.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I can't tell you how much money I have spent there, been shopping there for who knows how long.
They closed the store by Tech, so now it’s just 82nd & Indiana. I have several friends through the years that have worked there. The way it looks at Best Buy now they are trying to not carry CDs or any audio anymore. It saddens me, but it will probably helps Ralphs out as well, since vinyl is getting huge again.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
I worked at that store for 5 years when I was at Tech
and yeah, it’s like they didn’t know how much room they would end up needing when they first started it. They had actually tried to buy the Firestone next door to expand, but the tire store just wouldn’t budge.
by kevinkinsler on Oct 26, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup, they were still trying and I thought that was the agreement with Firestone.
I stocked there and during the holiday that back room was a mess. When did you work there?
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
A monorail.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Stay classy, New York fans
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
Misty May posted a picture of NYY fans that were spitting on the Rangers section...
Way to pitch yourself to Clifton, New York.
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"and to Adam J. Morris and the Lone Star Ball regulars; go fuck yourself."- cmkelly29
by TooLegitToQuit on Oct 26, 2010 2:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
+1
Troller formerly know as Cowboysaficionado.
by SportsDrunk on Oct 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
It would be unbelieveably awesome if Yankee fans kind of fucked themselves out of Cliff Lee in the ALCS.
"I think Elvis Andrus deliberately hits grounders to the right of shortstops to show that those shortstops aren’t Elvis Andrus" - Jeff
I am beginning to believe that Chuck, Nolan, JD, and Cliff were all meant to be together.
"I don't do a straight up Mitch for Butler" -- booyakasha
They're all so sexy
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 26, 2010 7:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't disagree with this.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Thank you, New York.
Thank you very, very much. Your entitled snobbery and irrepressible douchiness have won the day once more.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
LOL
Way to shoot yourselves in your collective foot, Yankee fans.
(1) Northern Virginia's greatest Ranger fan.
(2) The Rangers have arrived as an American League superpower. -- Albert Chen, CNN/SI
Hey...Yankee fans...
Just when I thought you couldn’t possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this…
…..and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!!
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 7:26 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Please don't taunt us like this, Adam
I’ve been forcing myself to not get my hopes up, so I’m not heartbroken when the Yankees swoop in and get the deal done in an exponentially more disappointing version of the Zito/Torii signing failures.
But news like this makes me want to believe…
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Oct 26, 2010 7:36 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
If he doesn't sign here
the suicide help line better grab a mess of volunteers.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yep.
I’ve already decided. If he signs here, I’m ordering myself a blue #33 jersey that very moment.
(Before someone points out that I’ve repeatedly said I like the red better… I already have a red Hamilton jersey, and I do actually like the blue ones a lot, too).
I doubt it
only the most absurd Cowboys Homer, like Sharky, still think the Cowboys are in it.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
x
Last night during the game they kept talking about how only one team to start 1-5 has ever made the playoffs. Cowboys = Toast
Your comment on FB yesterday about the bailff and "tonight's game" was so awesome
It’s incredible how things have aligned so that the Rangers are completely taking over the town right now.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Sweet
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Up until last night the Cowboys were easily in it in a weak division like the NFCE this year.
Without Romo though…
Garrett can barely run an offense with a Pro Bowl quarterback. I hate to see the horrors we will witness with an aging back up.
Yeah, I think a lot of people realized it after last week.
The vast majority of people have now officially come to their senses. The ones that haven’t are beyond saving.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I thought she was already picking out homes in Westchester County with CC's wife?
at least that is what the NY media told me…
Go Rice Owls!
I like Bob Nightengale.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I say we send Mike Olt to talk to Cliff after the season
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I don't think the universe could handle that much awesome in the same room.
I'm still here, Sager.
by JimCrankshaft on Oct 26, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Add Josh Hamilton to the room
BOOM awesomeness explodes!
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
My bad, how about putting the whole team with JD, Chuckie, and Nolan?
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
We aren't. We are spreading the good news!
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
To prove them damn Mayans wrong.
You were off by two years, fuckers!
I'm still here, Sager.
by JimCrankshaft on Oct 26, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Hahahahahahahahaha
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Mike Olt would say, however, that the awesome in the room is
100% Cliff Lee….0% Mike Olt….
When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 26, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Cliff would end up signing a lifetime contract and play for free.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Cliff is giving off all the receptive signals. (That sounds weirdly sexual. Coincidence?)
“I love this city,” Lee says. "I love my teammates. It’s going to be a good team for years to come. For my family, this couldn’t be a better situation.
“Free agency is when a player finally gets a choice, and I’m looking forward to that. There are so many things that can happen. I’m just more focused on helping this team win a World Series.”
Then came the words that the Rangers will hang onto.
“If we do that,” Lee says, “it would be hard to walk away.”
He wants to pitch here. Chuck and Nolan just have to pony up.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I keep having the same feeling and I keep telling my heart not to believe that
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Same...
…except, it’s too late for me.
I do believe he wants to stay here. I think if the offers are close, he’ll stay.
Droollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Well, I'm pretty sure they will.
I have faith in Simpson and Davis.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
(Sometime in December, before Christmas...)
WAIT… HOLY SHIT, IS THAT?… IS THAT FUCKING BOB SIMPSON’S MUSIC?
OH MY GOD!!!
IS THAT…IS THAT RAY DAVIS??!! YES!!! IT IS!!!! OH MY GOD!!! HE JUST BACKED A DUMP TRUCK FULL OF CASH THROUGH THE WALL OF THE NEGOTIATING ROOM!!! THE YANKEES ARE RUNNING LIKE SCALDED DOGS!!!!
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Oct 26, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd for awesomeness
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
The other thing...
…the Rangers clearly intend to pony up.
Greenberg said it himself. “He’s going to make a tremendous amount of money next year. We hope he’s making it with us.” The Rangers obviously intend to pay him big bucks, and have planned to do so. You have to figure Greenberg has an idea of what the market for Lee is going to look like, and he expects to be able to compete.
The only real question is, will the Yankees go to the stupid place? Will they throw such an obscene, unreasonable amount of money at him that it would be foolish for the Rangers to come close?
Because if they don’t, I think he’s staying.
Those jackwagons in the bleachers probably cost their team a legit shot at an ace.
Beautiful.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Oct 26, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions
the wives were in section 226 on the 3rd base side
not in the bleachers
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
Did anyone else enjoy the comment that, come Nov 13, Lee is headed to the deer stand, not to be interrupted?
It’s going to be torturous on LSB as we all wonder his decision, while he’s out in the woods not even remotely thinking about free agency.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
But can you really sit in a deer blind for 14 hours and not think about the 130 million dollar contract you're going to sign?
I couldn’t. I’d need to pee a lot.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Deer blind?
I just lost a little bit of respect for Lee. I assumed he would hide next to a game trail and then immobilize the deer with a precisely located 92 mph to the deer’s temple before breaking its neck with his bare hands.
by casew on Oct 26, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha, well I assumed it was a deer blind but the article just said he was going deer hunting
You’re probably more correct.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Killing it with a fastball? That is small time
He will perfectly anticipate the deer’s movements, and bend a 12-6 curveball right between its eyes.
He uses the fastball when he wants to get a buck and doe at the same time.
With the correct angle he can bounce it off the buck’s temple hitting and immobilize the doe as well.
These same quotes (or very similar ones) from Lee's wife
were in a story at the DMN last week right after a game there but I don’t feel like looking for it. Encouraging, but I don’t think it means anything at all unless the offers are very close in dollar value.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
How much are these perceived incentives worth in real dollars?
If the Yankees offer 5/150, does liking your teammates, proximity to home, no state income tax, and possibly just having won the World Series get the Rangers a 5/140 deal?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Yes
Not to mention how young the Rangers are versus the Yankees. The Rangers look like they are set up to make a run at the playoffs and go deeper than the Yankees do at this point.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
I think its a factor only if the offers are very close.
Really, we’re talking about the icing here, not the cake. Money is the undefeated, undisputed champion of the world. Hopefully our FO will be competitive enough to make the intangibles count.
Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
by SarasotaRanger on Oct 26, 2010 9:05 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I would think so...
Some aka the east coast keeps acting like the man is going to be poor if he stays here lol. Chuck and co gotta know the bidding starts at 100mil anything else and you may as well send him packing. He said it himself Lee is going to be a rich man wherever he goes.
I still believe if the Rangers come within the ballpark of the Yankees that we have an excellent chance. No we cant outbid them who can, but we can certainly make it competitive and then imo that’s when the lifestyle etc stuff will come into play.
And been wanting to say this, I know about his friendship with CC etc and the meme that he’s been dying to go to NY(rme). However weren’t his agent in early talks with Philadelphia before they learned he was being traded? And they went to the Mariners early in the season about a new contract and were basically told they weren’t interested. Imo doesn’t sound like a man who is just dying to get to NY. Not saying he can’t end up there but he was clearly looking at other options knowing full well that the Yankees want him.
I think that's close enough
for Lee. But 5 years won’t be enough, he’s going to ask for 6 or 7. I think you could start with offering 5 with an easy vesting option for 7, but ultimately it will take 6 with an option for 7 at least to get it done.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
I think so.
That’s only a $2mm per year difference, which is chump change at that point.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I found last week's article
that had some of the same info, from Brad Townsend. If you have a family, this sort of things is a powerful draw:
A month into Cliff’s Rangers tenure, Kristen and the kids returned to Benton. But this time, when his team played a Sunday afternoon home game, Cliff had the convenience and team’s blessing to fly to Arkansas and stay until Tuesday morning. “He’d never been home [in Arkansas] one single time, ever, during the season,” Kristen says. “It’s saved me and the kids a lot of trips.”
Jaxon recently got to pitch in a game and, in his only inning, struck out the side. Naturally, his grandparents, Steve and Sharon Lee, were there. Steve, 56, retired after 30 years in the Benton fire department and is starting his fourth term on the city council.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
I'm down for letting him do that all the time if he wants.
Hell, fly his whole family to every start if he wants us to.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
I'm all for them doing whatever he wants.
And this team seems to be the sort that none of the other big names have such an ego to where they would get upset if the front office was making exceptions for Clifton. It seems like the other 24 would just be happy to have him on the team.
by FuturePants on Oct 26, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I like Kinsler's line about how he was probably going to call Cliff several hundred times this winter
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I love that primadonna, whiny, mouthy little bitch so goddamn much.
by FuturePants on Oct 26, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
He's like a child sometimes.
But he’s OUR child.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
Exactly I love kins lol..
He’s our spark plug in more ways then one. CJ was right when he mentioned the chemistry of the team and how the supastars are the quiet ones and the others are more opposites.
He's like a white Milton Bradley.
And I loved Milton Bradley.
"I think Elvis Andrus deliberately hits grounders to the right of shortstops to show that those shortstops aren’t Elvis Andrus" - Jeff
I did too
Milton and Kins were buddies while Milty was here.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
Oh, we were all fine with keeping him around on another low-risk contract
But then Jim Hendry decided to pull a Michael Scott and get all stupid up in here, offering the multiyear deal.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
I don't think Cliff is the type that would abuse the privilege.
There would likely be something in the contract that specifies when he can take trips to Little Rock.
Probably not very precisely...just an understood agreement.
Basically Nolan Ryan had an agreement with the Rangers when he pitched that he could take off time to be with the family. Roger Clemens had that agreement with the Astros concerning taking off time to be with the family. I think Texas can promote itself as a family friendly organization and it has in the past. I don’t think you need to work that into a contract, but just have solid communications between management and players.
Yeah, smart move
for the Rangers to let him do that…“see, Cliff, how nice it would be to do this for the next few years?”
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
I'm a Cliff Lee fan, and I support this message.
Mrs. Lee is a very smart lady.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Oct 26, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions
Just in case anyone wants to watch the Rangers spank the Yankees
MLB Network is currently showing ALCS Game 2.
Hipsters, Flipsters, and Finger Poppin Daddies! Knock me your lobes.
This is probably getting to be a tiresome thought
but I’m still finding all of this Rangers-in-World-Series stuff surreal. Every time I see a TV graphic promoting the World Series and see the Texas logo in it, I pause the Tivo and just stare.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Yep.
I don’t know how to handle it.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Oct 26, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Some handle it with one hand
Others with two hands.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
by boomer1 on Oct 26, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Let me introduce you to my little friend..."
"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan
"Every hitter likes fastballs just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's how you feel when (Nolan) Ryan's throwing balls by you." - Reggie Jackson
I am really not worried about free agency right now.
Win a World Series first and worry about all the business crap afterward. I don’t feel any need to worry about this and possibly tarnish the moment.
Did Sharky's Cowboys fanpost from last night get deleted?
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
Well that's irrational.
Guess he doesn’t want anyone to see his idiocy the next day.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
If only other fanposters where so courteous.
"I think Elvis Andrus deliberately hits grounders to the right of shortstops to show that those shortstops aren’t Elvis Andrus" - Jeff
State Income Tax for New York- Clarification
Please correct me if I’m wrong…but the state income tax has been mentioned several times regarding players signing with a New York team.
MY UNDERSTANDING is that the state income tax is only levied on residents of the state. Therefore, if the Lee’s keep their home in Arkansas as their perminate resident (which seems to be the case) then Cliff’s residence is Arkansas and he will not be responsible for the state income tax.
I’m basing it off this story of Derek Jeter from 2007.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/16/2007-11-16_taxman_derek_jeter_cheated_new_york_out_-1.html
My impression about how it works is based on the salary paid to the player while in the state, not necessarily where he is domiciled.
And that’s based off of the little research I did on the issue to try and get numbers on it.
Here is an article talking about how the state income tax of Ohio could have played into Lebron’s decision, and it doesn’t make a distinction for where he actually lives.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/26503.html
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
Yeah, that is my understanding as well.
It kind of goes against instinct, but I get the feeling the states don’t care until you start making shit tons like baseball players.
by FuturePants on Oct 26, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
A few of the articles I looked at called it the "Jock Tax"
Another potential reason for states to want professional sports teams.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
A friend of mine who lives in Dallas but worked for a while in California a couple of years ago had to pay CA tax on that.
His employer compensated him for it, but somehow with all the intricacies of the tax system he still ended up making a tiny bit less than he would’ve if had had been in Texas.
Yeah
Which is another reason to want to sign with Houston or Texas for someone like Cliff Lee. He owns a house in Arkansas, rents here, but makes at least 50% of his income here, which isn’t subject to state income tax.
by FuturePants on Oct 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'd look at another state's tax comparative to the New York tax system
The article I linked clearly stated that Jeter was NOT paying income tax in the state of new york. Only after Jeter made several remarks about LIVING in New York did the state demand his tax money.
I have done ZERO research..but the way this situation unfolded…Jeter was clearly not paying state income tax before 2007 because his established residency was in another state.
If this is the case, Cliff will clearly have an established residency in Arkansas with his family.
I thought that was NY wanting him to pay taxes on ALL the money he made (even for away games) if he lived in NY,
instead of just the money he made in games in NY.
Yes, BUT
He gets to deduct in NY anything he’s paid to another state. Let’s say he’s a NY resident, and Yankees play in Baltimore. Maryland has a nonresident income tax, so Jeter would pay taxes there.
If he plays in, say, Texas, where there is no state income tax, then he has to pay NY taxes on what he earns in Texas.
This is why its advantageous to keep a residence elsewhere.
"Sometimes I'm Bill Buckner, baby. Sometimes I'm Willie Mays." -dariustx
I think some locations have figured out that people working at a location...
but living elsewhere was causing some missed revenue. So those taxes, such as state income, and city income taxes were withheld from players that make a lot of money. I believe this may be the case on the road even, that some cities and states have tried to collect for players coming into town and playing, and then paying portions of their income. Tax issues become pretty complicated as far as I’m concerned.
no one gives a shit
come back when you have something better
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
5689, moments ago:
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Oct 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't know why...
…..but I am finding this extremely hilarious.
by FuturePants on Oct 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
NOBODY WANTS TO BE A YANKEE!
Cliff Lee’s wife won’t let him sell his soul to the devil and sign with the Stanks! Did you notice other than the nerds in NY no one likes the NY SKANKS!
NY may not be the end of the world, but you definitely can see it from there. The armpit of the east.
Cost of Living (CPI from the Bureau of Labor Statistics)
I still think that could be a key. If the Rangers offer $20 million per year to play in DFW, that would have the same buying power as about $32 in New York City. I did a fan post on it earlier this year, and while I doubt that it would be the deciding factor for Lee, it could be one of the factors.
I'm struggling to think what you'd have to give up
on ‘only’ $20M per year in NYC.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Hope you guys are able to re-sign Lee
Mostly because, fuck the Yankees.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
by marcello on Oct 26, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
Hey Yankees fans
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Oct 26, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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