Alexi Ogando removed from playoff roster, Dustin Nippert added
With Alexi Ogando done for the year after his oblique injury yesterday that forced him from the game, Dustin Nippert has been added by the Rangers to their playoff roster, replacing Ogando.
We thought, at one point, that the Ranger bullpen was going to be a strength this postseason. Instead, we have a bullpen that has Neftali Feliz, the two Darrens, and a bunch of guys the Rangers are hoping not to have to use.
How did we get here? We expected Frank Francisco and Alexi Ogando to be key guys in the middle to late innings, with Frankie, in particular, viewed as the key 8th inning guy. Francisco has missed the playoffs with an injury, and Ogando is now sidelined, as well.
We also thought that Tanner Scheppers would surely be on the playoff roster, as a guy who could go two innings in a fireman role, and get swings and misses in the late innings. Scheppers ended up never making the majors in 2010 after running out of gas late in the year (a development that isn't really shocking, given his limited innings the previous two years).
So three power righthanded arms that a lot of us felt would provide a big advantage in the playoffs are off the board. With no more than three games left in the season, the Rangers are going to no doubt ride their starters as hard and as deep into games as they can, particularly given how little backup there now is in the bullpen.
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Which player is more likely to make an appearance in the World Series in the next 3 games?
Dustin Nippert or Andres Blanco.
next 3 games
if there’s a game 7 that’ll be sweet.
but if nippert is in the game, the rangers have already lost.
if blanco is in the game it’s as a late inning replacement for young with the rangers up by 10 runs?
i doubt we see either.
I think Nippert may be higher on the
depth chart then Lowe. Hopefully we don’t see either one until they dogpile on the SF pitchers mound.
Nippert
Young isn’t going anywhere. But yeah, Nippert’s chances aren’t so great either- maybe if it’s like 17th inning or something he’ll make an appearance, but other than that…
by Giant Space Ants on Nov 1, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully
Cliff Lee goes nine tonight, and it’s not an issue.
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we still have Feliz
so Lee just needs to go 8
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Franky and Ogando were pretty key guys
especially against these over the hill hacks the Giants have. They just keep taking weak as swings against the finesse pitchers and getting crap hits. Feliz better be ready for two innings, if needed
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He's ready. Maddux/Wash better be ready to let him
Feliz went 2+ innings 8 times in 2009. He needs to be used for 4, 5, or 6 outs in any or all of the 3 games remaining this year.
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Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Watching Ogando last night
I was wondering why there hasn’t been any clamoring for him to get a shot at starting next spring. I haven’t seen much from Feliz to suggest he has a starters arsenal, Ogando on the other hand…
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ogando only has 2 pitches really
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
He'll throw a changeup on occasion.
I’d like to say more about it, but texasleaguers has his pitch types all screwed up: http://pitchfx.texasleaguers.com/pitcher/468396/?batters=A&count=AA&pitches=AA&from=1/1/2010&to=10/31/2010
From what I’ve seen, he has very, very command with it. However, given the limited instruction he’s seen stateside, I wouldn’t mind him trying to develop it in the minors. As of now, though, he’s a reliever all the way.
Ogando does tend to have some arm trouble if I'm not mistaken
and he’s more of a max effort guy that would limit his effectiveness in the rotation. I think Feliz should be the guy who starts. He has an ease with which he hits his upper digits, and if he starts to incorporate his changeup again, which he has totally abandoned this year due to Wash or whoever telling him to just blow people away. It’s not that that isn’t effective, but it definitely hinders his development. What I want, is for Feliz to learn to throw the cutter much like Brian Wilson and incorporate his changeup more and he would be absolutely unhittable as a starter.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
There are some good reasons for it
I’m not sure how well his 2 pitch arsenal would do against ML hitters if he’s being asked to go through a lineup at least 2 full times. How is his stamina going to be if he has to throw that mid-high 90s fastball for 5 or 6 innings? And there’s also the issue he apparently has working from the stretch, but that’s something that needs to be worked on regardless. And at his age, its tough to see him having more value in the rotation (on a team planning to contend) than in the bullpen. Especially if you plan on moving Feliz to the rotation at some point.
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I miss you FrankFrank.
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I didn't really miss him until the SF series
The bullpen showed up well enough against the Yankees and the Rays, but the bats were hot. Somehow, Franky just never had anyone step up and take his place, although I thought Ogando was that person. It’s interesting how so many lefties seemed effective against the Yanks and Rays out of the bullpen, but the Rangers just don’t have the right handers without Franky to deal with the Giants. Losing Ogando could be disastrous.
Lowe and Nippert will leave those people pining for the Frankie.
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I'm wondering...
I think a lot of the reason for the bullpen problems now is because the bullpen was ridden so hard during the season and the bed that made is now having to be lied in at a bad time. Is this the sort of thing that can be addressed over the offseason by making sure the rotation has guys who go deep into games? Signing Lee will help and I expect Lewis to pitch 200 innings again. I’m worried about Wilson next year because he went from 70-something innings last year to 201 plus the playoffs, meaning he tripled his innings pitched.
CJ is holding up pretty well this year.
He has had his ups and downs, but he does not seem to be wearing down, even now in the postseason. I think his conditioning has a lot to do with that. I would think that he should be able to do even better next year since he won’t be making such a huge leap again. He should be good to go for 200+ next year. Now cutting down on his walk totals on the other hand…
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I'm pretty sure there have been instances where guys who have big innings jumps see the bad effects in the year after the innings jump
That’s what I’m worried about with CJ. Braden Looper is evidence that it can be done, but that only makes it something to be worried about instead of a certainty of failure.
I've had a similar thought.
We’re all going to remember the great starting pitching the Rangers had available at the end of the year, but we counted on a good to great bullpen that was considered at that level in part because of the number of innings that they pitched. With the seeming depth behind them, none of us really predicted how quickly the team would tear through it and have a distinct weakness there.
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CJ worries me too
I know he is a hard worker and practices his health and fitness routine regularly, but the innings can’t be ignored, and the pitch counts that all our guys had were problematic. It didn’t make sense this year, we had some of the highest avg pitch counts from our starters and one of the most worked bullpens in baseball. How does that work?
There are so many reasons to sign Cliff Lee other than the fact that he is an ace. Saving our bullpen is definitely one , along with his influence on the pitching staff, especially the young lefties Holland, Harrison, Kirkman, Perez (and even Wilson).
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Well you thought that
I said all along that I didn’t expect Scheppers to be a part of this season.
What a kick in the balls to Feldman.
So, what if you HAVE to use one of them in a key spot, who would you pick- Lowe or Nippert?
Ugh
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They should...
and then just bring up Frankie. He might not even get into a game but they could make the Giants tense up thinking about it. That’s probably worth more than Mark Lowe at this point because I doubt the Rangers are going to use him unless they’re about to lose which means the season is about to be end anyway.
by ghostofErikThompson on Nov 1, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, if Frankie
can even get the ball to the plate, he’d likely be more effective than either Nippert of Lowe. But I do remember hurt/lack of arm FX2 and his tendency to groove a pitch early in the year. That was pretty bad to watch.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think the starters are going to have to be on some long leashes.
If Ceej runs in to trouble (outside of the blister flaring up), you have to assume if you let him stay out he’ll start being his normal self. If he doesn’t, well, the season’s probably over, but the same could be said about going to the bullpen early.
Set the highest limit for them you think you can and keep them in until they hit it.
how many bullpen arms have pitched consistent clean innings outside of Feliz and Ogando in the playoffs?
I’d venture a guess to say none. Holland has probably been the 3rd best guy, but his display in game 2 was the worst I have seen. I’m really glad he pitched a nice top of the 9th yesterday.
The Darren O’s have absolutely shit themselves and are going to give up runs.
Lowe, Kirkman, and Nippert are, well, just not that good at this point. I’d have the most confidence in Kirkman, but he’s been unable to consistently get anybody out, so these 3 are benchwarmers.
so, we have Feliz. Holland is hit or miss. Darren O’s are good to give up at least 1 run. If you want to give up more runs, bring in our bottom 3. Yep, our starters need to go at least 7 or 8.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
of course, I figure
Colby Lewis will be available out of the ’pen tonight for an inning if necessary. Then Hunter will be available in game 6 (not that I like that) and Lee for game 7.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Murphy back in the lineup tonight
as is Burrell.
Ron had Josh attempt to steal last night.
Moreland is a HOFer. Err… his bat is anyhow.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/11/rangers-lineup-david-murphy-re.html
I assume Rowand is in RF
or do they ever put Torres over there? Is that lineup totally messed up? Or would they have Ross in RF (where he has primarily been) and one of Torres/Rowand in LF
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Rowand started 76 times in center this year, only eight in right.
I think they move Torres over when Rowand plays.

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