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First Day of the Offseason Things

So, this morning, I'm happy.

Really.

I'm happy about where this Rangers ballclub is.  I'm happy about our new ownership group.  I'm happy about our collection of talent. 

I'm happy that the Rangers won the A.L. West, advanced in the playoffs for the first time, are the A.L. champs, and appeared in their first World Series.

Am I disappointed in how the World Series went?  Sure.

But it doesn't change the fact that this has been an outstanding year.  There are 28 other teams that would love to be where the Rangers are at the end of the 2010 season.  Texas came up a little short, but that doesn't change the fact that the season as a whole has been great, and there's plenty of reason for optimism about 2011.

So I'm not feeling like dissecting what happened against San Francisco and why the team fell short.  I'd rather sit back and enjoy what was a tremendous year.

Moving on to the links...

Jeff Wilson's game story talks about Tim Lincecum and Edgar Renteria putting an end to the Rangers' World Series hopes.

Anthony Andro writes about Cliff Lee's performance, and that one fateful pitch -- a cutter that stayed out over the plate -- that was the difference in the game.

I mentioned this on Twitter, but I breathed a sigh of relief when Renteria first hit that ball...off the bat, it looked like a routine fly ball.  And it just kept carrying, and carrying...

Evan Grant writes that the Giants' game-winning rally looked eerily similar to a lot of Rangers rallies this year.

Jeff Caplan writes that weak hitting doomed the Rangers.

William Wilkerson writes that Josh Hamilton was one of the biggest disappointments of the World Series, going just 2 for 20.

Gerry Fraley writes that Vladimir Guerrero's postseason puts into doubt whether the Rangers are going to want to bring him back for 2011.

Hamilton and Guerrero's lack of production makes Grant's list of five reasons the Rangers didn't beat the Giants.

The S-T's notes talk about Chuck Greenberg issuing an apology for his remarks about the Yankees fans, and Bengie Molina saying he's going to wait before making a decision on whether he'll play in 2011.

Richard Durrett looks back and has some thoughts on a special 2010 season.

Jim Reeves says that the 2010 season is just the beginning of something special for these Rangers.

Gil Lebreton writes that the Ranger bats disappeared in the World Series.

Kevin Sherrington writes that the Rangers need to bring Cliff Lee back.

Randy Galloway has a column on the Rangers run finally coming to an end, and says that Lee is probably signing elsewhere.

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Wow.

“The Offseason”

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Nov 2, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Which will be a glorious month shorter.

Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.

by JBP on Nov 2, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a ton of mixed emotions.

I can’t say I’m happy, but I’m definitely not pissed or angry with the team. Mix of disappointed and very proud.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

i havent minded the bandwagon fans

until now… i cant stand amateur baseball analysis and bull shit from people that dont even know what is going on………. other than that.. im very proud and can hold my head up… my dad called last night and told me my grandparents have been watching the games just because they knew i was watching the games… that hit me hard this morning… and it was awesome.

by I am Neftali Feliz on Nov 2, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too.

My grandma, who has only ever watched the Astros, started watching the Rangers in September, and told me last week she has been “losing a lot of sleep staying up to watch” this postseason. I loved it.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

My parents too

And they don’t watch any sports, except their college team and the Super Bowl. I am shocked, and very proud of them.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

May parents don't watch much sports (my mom more than dad)

And when I spoke to them on Sunday they asked how the Rangers did on Saturday. Better than talking about the weather.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Nov 2, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know right?

They actually called twice to ask what time the game started, once on a travel day…oops.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's about where I am.

But there are a couple of gloaters — not SF fans, but Texas haters — that may make things unpleasant today.

by other_shoe on Nov 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

This man speaks the truth

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Nov 2, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that many of us are feeling that way today.

I know that I am. As time goes by, I think that I will lean more towards proud as the disappointment passes. Go Rangers in 2011!

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Nov 2, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it February 13, 2011 yet?

This offseason just seems to drag on forever…

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Nov 2, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Heh.

Personally, though… I need the break.

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

me too

im gonna use these next couple of months to focus on a lot of other things. I’m wiped out from baseball

It's Time.

by Jason Brynsvold on Nov 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely.

i have been mind fucked from this baseball season.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Nov 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's how I feel

I haven’t been on LSB much lately just because this whole postseason has been so draining to watch

by MikeEl on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

Need some downtime. Gonna enjoy hockey season till the WS wounds heal.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I"m with you.

Aggies play exhibition basketball on Saturday then fire up the season. Need a break from baseball, but I’m so ready for next year.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

And after baseball stretching into November for a change, I actually kind of like the way there’s usually a day off or two between every Stars game. I can do other things in the evenings now!

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

me too.

a nice four-month breather would be nice.

but some friends and I are already talking hot stove.

by rockin_rangers on Nov 2, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God for the shortest offseason ever

I don’t think I can handle four months of Cowboys and Mavericks.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Nov 2, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Internet drinks on RangerMad

I’ll take a Dogfish Head 75(half 90/half 60)minute pint in a nice frosty mug.

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Nov 2, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been waiting for today.

It didn’t feel right to take it off until the season was officially over.

I’m now officially in the market for a new sig.

by jam0152 on Nov 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like mine personally

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the Rangers do have some unfinished business to attend to.

I will be anticipating the start of Spring Training even more than usual. So it is a good thing that we don’t have to wait as long.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Nov 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I'm happy...

…but I’m definitely not sad. The Rangers didn’t lose in the World Series. The Rangers lost in the WORLD SERIES.

I’m much more sad that baseball is over, than I am that the Rangers lost in the World Series.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Same with Posey's

They definitely beat us, but damn did they have some lucky breaks

by philclark on Nov 2, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never thought that ball was a HR until it went out.

I thought it was medium deep fly ball at first and Murphy kept running and running. I cannot believe how well that ball carried.

OTOH, I couldn’t believe Posey’s bomb to right-center didn’t go out.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Posey's was crazy....I thought that was 30 feet shy of the track.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was down the 3B line so the view is different but from that angle

(and knowing how well the ball carries to RF), I thought Posey’s was gone.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I knew it was gone as soon as he hit it

From the upper deck, I had thought almost every single fly ball was carrying farther than it should. He hit that, and before it got out of the infield I was slumped over in my seat. Defeated. Ugh.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not reading anything else about the WS,

the bats failing, etc……I’m done….yeah, they lost the WS but this was the most amazing season that I’ve ever witnessed.

I cannot wait for 2011……

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yup...

I couldn’t watch it. Too painful.

by coolaid on Nov 2, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

same here.......I actually turned it off with 2 outs and just listened to Nadel.....

just couldn’t bear to watch it….I haven’t watched local news, ESPN or looked at any other site except LSB…..

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I left it on, but I had my back to the TV and kind of tuned it out while posting here.

Turned around a couple times and saw Cody Ross and Aubrey Huff’s mugs, and watched the two trophy presentations, but that was about it.

From what I did see it looked like a fairly generic celebration to me. But then they all do, unless it’s the Rangers.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto.

But I am glad that some of the Rangers like Elvis stuck around to watch it. Hopefully that will help light the fire in them for next year.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Nov 2, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think I could have said it any better.

Disappointed? Yes. But this was the greatest season of baseball I’ve ever experienced in my 40+ years of existence. Thank you Texas Rangers, you brought me the most sports fandom joy EVER.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I would've killed to be at Game 6...just watching Shepp's video gets me fired up all to hell.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is true

Being at Game 6 to witness my beloved Rangers stomp the MFY into the dirt…

…that will stick with me forever. It really was my World Series.

Man, I’m ready for spring.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Nov 2, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Being there was everything for me. The elation was absolutely intoxicating. Honestly, I don’t think winning the WS could have topped getting to the WS the way we did it, i.e. beating the MFY and having Perez strike out A-Fuck to boot.

Poetry, it was.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zactly

Game 6 was my 2010 fangasm.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

beating the yankees was it for me, i will wear out the dvds i made from game 6 alone this winter

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

dvd

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to have Lee back

But if he signs elsewhere, I don’t think it will kill us. I think his contract could hurt us in the long run. The yanks have the luxury of eating huge chunks of salary when things don’t work out.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Nov 2, 2010 10:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'll vow right now...

…that no matter what happens, I’ll never boo Cliff Lee.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I reserve the right to feel kind of betrayed if he signs with the Yankees.

But I agree, I don’t think I could ever boo him.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's been too classy

And said all the right things. Not to mention he’s been awesome.

by jam0152 on Nov 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

No way I boo him.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

We knew what we were getting into when we traded for him.

by octoberty on Nov 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell yes, as much as i hate the yankees, i surely would not want him back in the AL west unless it is with us

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the roster is managed correctly, the contract won't kill us.

We’re no longer owned by Tom Hicks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it is a 6 or 7 year

contract It could definitely hurt us. You could have 3 years or so of a mediocre pitcher eating a fifth of the salary.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why the rest of the roster needs to be managed correctly.

You can carry that contract easily on a $ 100 million payroll.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, probably not

come 2014 when Josh, Kinsler, and Cruz are no longer cheap players. No idea where baseball contracts go between now and then, but that looks like 40 million or more to me by 2014.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

With age, durability and everything in mind...

….I seriously can’t see this team retaining both Cruz and Hamilton long term.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tough to see

replacing those big bats with what we have. That kind of power is pretty rare until you get players at prime age. I don’t think you are gonna see it out of 24 year old kids.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but when their contracts end,

they’ll both be at ages where it is unwise to offer too many years. I think it’s unlikely the Rangers will have both in 4-5 years.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

It’ll be looking at two aging, deteriorating bats, and who they want to keep. Smart money says not both of them though.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably true

That’s why I think the organization has to treat the future as now, and make whatever trades or FA pickups necessary to improve our chances over the next 3 years, even if it means moving prospects out the door and stripping our minors.

This team was essentially built through trades, I have no problems with JD trading guys like Perez and Beltre to beef up the team over the next 3 years, at the expense of teams in 2015 or so.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,

at the very least, it seems that we have enough evidence at this point to say that JD targets the right elite talent.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depends what "long term" means to you?

I could easily see us locking Hamilton up with a 4 year deal this winter and do the same with Cruz next winter. That buys out 2 of their FA years each and given their ages when they will hit FA they probably wouldn’t get long term deals anyway.

by bigsteve on Nov 2, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't give all 32-33 year olds big money which is where

managing the payroll correctly comes into play.

They need to get CJ locked up…both he and Cobra are excellent 2A & 2B starters if you wanna make a post-season run.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either you have to lock up

the core of this team or replace them, and by 2014 don’t see how you will be able to afford to do so.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

CJ

If I was him it would take a huge offer to lock me up one year before I hit FA. He’s probably going to ask for a 4 year deal next winter when he hits FA

by bigsteve on Nov 2, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not terribly worried

2014 is 4 seasons away

At the end of 2006, who’d have thought Nelson Cruz, Josh Hamilton, Cliff Lee, Colby Lewis and CJ Wilson would be leading the Rangers to the World Series?

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Personally

I have no problem if they need to drain the farm system completely to win as many times as they can by 2013, and then completely rebuild if they have to. Personally, I don’t care if they have to trade Perez and Beltre and everyone else on the farm to increase the teams odds in 2011-2013.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless you're the Yankees or Red Sox

it seems like Windows of Opportunity are only open for 3-5 years.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Braves? Twins?

Cardinals? Hell, the Giants will probably be good for a while.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

That’s just a question of money, but if we tender to the Type A guys, and a couple of them don’t sign, along with the billionairs writing the checks, our draft this year could be HUGE.

Point is, things are setting up to not vanish overnight a la the Royals.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

Atlanta maintained it for longer than anyone ever has with a similar size market as Texas.

All it requires is being smart and always working on the next generation while you’re winning and picking the right players to use as a foundation. Money is important, but you don’t need buckets full – just enough. The Rangers are better off than the Rays, so they should be able to maintain it.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a different league

than when the Braves did it. I think in general front offices are smarter, and there are less bad GMs to take advantage of.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Braves were able to do it

by continuously bringing up pieces from their always awesome farm system to replace guys they lost through FA. They had Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux, and supplemented them with a never ending flow of pitchers who they brought up, used, and let go. Avery, Neagle, Millwood…

Same with their offense. They built around Chipper Jones early on and always were bringing up guys like Andruw. They supplemented with free agents here and there. But the key was 1) always be developing, 2) only hang on to the great pieces and let the mediocre pieces go, and 3) don’t spend or trade out of desperation. Now, they only won 1 WS, because they didn’t ever go all-in. But they were the best team overall for 15 years.

This is reasonable game plan and it doesn’t require you to take advantage of the league. There is no reason the Rangers can’t do this. Pick a few players to build around (Kinsler, Andrus, Feliz is a start, hope for Holland or Perez to become a star, maybe you lock up CJ if you think it fits). Make sure there are always guys like Moreland and Murphy to fill out your lineup with. Keep developing – there is no reason to be all-or-none with the farm, just invest wisely. And don’t sign guys who aren’t good. No more Scott Feldman contracts. You let guys like him walk. You sign Lee if it makes sense, not because you feel you have to.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who is the Chipper Jones of our system?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kinsler.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

So we move him to third base???

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Olt would object,

but he can’t talk under the strain of carrying abandoned dogs to the local shelter.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

you're being far too literal in the comparisons

In 1991, when the Braves started their phenomenal run, they didn’t have most of the players who we associate with them. Jones wasn’t a factor for the first 4 or 5 years of their run.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Luckily, we traded him.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

The 1991 Atlanta Braves

were not a “young” team by any stretch

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1991.shtml

They had 3 young stars: Justice, Glavine, and Smoltz and a bunch of middle-aged guys no one can remember (Jeff Treadway…)

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis

Engel could be our Andruw Jones

by bigsteve on Nov 2, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Completely agree with you on the rest of it.

Easier said than done, of course, but I think Daniels and his guys can make it happen.

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Braves won one World Series

because they fucked around with the Twins & BJays (teams they could have beaten).

When they had their best teams, they ran into the late 90s MF Yankee Juggernauts (probably the best team I’ve seen in my lifetime).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

They also beat an unbelievable Indians team in the WS.

So there’s that.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Indians team

is an example of a club that I can’t believe didn’t win a World Series. They really should have…. The mid ’90s Indians may be the best core of players never to win one.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Indians team was greatness (how the fuck do they not beat the Marlins in '97?)

but they didn’t have the bad-ass ace to match up in the post-season.

Somebody else can look it up but I think they had several series where they lost the first game of a series because the other team would kill them with their ace.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think when you look back

at history, you see how incredibly tough it is to have a long run at the playoffs. It seems to me that we are about in the shape of the ’08 Rays.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

The 2008 Rays were going to have to beat the 2009-2012 Yankees and Red Sox.

I think playing in the AL West in 2011-2014 puts the Rangers in better position than the 2008 Rays. Not that the A’s or Angels (or, eventually, Mariners) will be walkovers — but…

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the Rangers can sit back

and think 90 wins is going to get it done in the AL West next year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is arguing that they should

There are major holes that we all know – mostly replace Lee if he leaves and catcher.

But Texas should win the West next year unless LAA goes all-in for one final shot at the complete expense of their future

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oakland.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh

I’m not worried about Oakland. Clearly their pitching has the potential to be awesome. But so long as their best hitter is Daric Barton, I’m not going to sweat them too much.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

The 2008 Rays are a terrible comparison. Tampa got to where they were based on many years of basement level draft picks and developing from within. They were by definition constrained to a 3-4 year window where they had enough high quality prospects cresting at the same time and before they hit free agency.

Because the Rays didn’t have any money to invest in the maintenance phase of their hopeful dynasty, it looks like it will fizzle.

Add in the quality of competition. Texas is the strongest organization in their division from any number of perspectives (financial, major league talent, overall organizational talent)

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

My strongest fear is still the Angels.

They have a salty Top 3, Morales coming back, and an owner who likes to spend. And Trout on the way…

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That top 3 in LAAA is very salty

but their best players (I consider Morales a quetion mark now)are are all 35+ so my jury is out on them.

I worry about all that youth in Oakland and with a couple of good moves they could become the SFO Giants of the AL.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess thats a good point

the AL West isn’t a murderer’s row. On the other hand, I doubt it will proved the Wild Card much though.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

And the '09 Rays went 84-78 (I'm not disagreeing with your assessment) in 2009.

One good thing is that there are no obvious juggernauts in the AL.

I’m leery of the Red Sox making a couple of additions in the line-up to go with that pitching but nobody else other than the Twins (and they have terrible amount of psychological baggage) sticks out as an obvious contender.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea i agree to a degree

i’d love to have him back but at what $25 mill per year for 5-6 years? that’s too much and goes against what our ballclub is trying to do.

that money could be spent on another nice starter, catcher other help in one fell swoop.

by spatulacity on Nov 2, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

6 years would be too long.

Look at Michael Young. We have him forever. Unfortunately.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think with the current roster construction, it might be worth it anyway.

It’s Time, etc. And unlike Young, if we overpay for him at least it’ll be for a good reason.

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

thing is

The window for the Rangers is wide open. Lee would be in his prime for 3-4 years of that time. MY is in decline right at the time this team is primed to compete. You get more value overpaying for Lee now then when MY was signed.

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not his prime.

Though I don’t think the decline phase will happen for another few years.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

DH

Am I overreacting to Vlad’s (offensive) World Series and Michael Young’s (defensive) season/playoffs by suggesting that we move MY to DH in 2011?

Not sure who goes to 3B in this scenario, though.

by leviweaver on Nov 2, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we can get a good 3B (good both offense and defense)...

…this would be great.

You’re overpaying for a DH in this scenario, but since you’re stuck with Young’s contract anyway, there’s no way around that, and it makes you a better team.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basically everyone, with one major exception, believes that DH for Michael Young in 2011 is the best position for him.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

No fucking way we can afford another year of Face at 3B. I love the guy, but he needs to swallow his pride and realize his fielding days are pretty much history.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why go the pussy passive/aggressive Rodney route?

Just say it…and I have no problem moving MYoung from 3B but I don’t think it’s gonna happen next year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think he can hit enough to be a league average player

at 1B or DH?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Part of the problem is that you need a suitable replacement for Young and then you have to find a suitable role for him.

He can’t be traded because of the contract JD gave him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

And there's the rub.

Sigh.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you can live with him at 3B but he's got

to be better next year than this past year.

He was worse in 2010 than 2009.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Adrian Beltre.

I’m not sure who else out there is good enough to warrant moving Young over, though.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

Leftys that are not power throwing lefties can last a while. Probably you can expect 3-4 more top years and at least 2 pretty solid years. But his influence on the other pitcher could be extremely strong. Make no mistake about it, Lee led a staff that had four starters with under a 4.00 ERA, and was an example on how to attack the strike zone. In my mind, the starters on this team were not the reason the Rangers lost the World Series, and were just huge in getting far into the playoffs. And I see the starters getting even better next year if Lee is there.

by Philar on Nov 2, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or it was an example that defense makes a difference.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee

It was brought up on the radio a month or so ago that the length of 5-6 years at his age wont kill you.
Given his frame and the type of pitcher he is, there may not be a sharp decline.

Even if there is a decline i think it’s worth it to get 3-4 solid years at the opening of the window they have

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Nov 3, 2010 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

best season of my life

all i ever want from the Rangers is to play meaningful baseball in Sept! much less Oct and now Nov!

at beginning of the season i wouldbve taken an AL West crown and even losing the first round of the playoffs.

we executed so many demons…playoffs, 2nd playoff win, series win, home win, yankees, WS. WS win. i love it.

we are ranger fans and dont ask for much and this season was about as good as it gets.

by spatulacity on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I have to say

I’m actually smiling this morning. I didn’t think I would be, but I am.

Maybe it’s just the Epica and the James Blunt, but I think I’m cool with this bridesmaid deal.

Hell, I’ve always gone for the second prettiest girls anyway.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Heh,

James Blunt. That suits my impression of you.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mixed emotions for me.

Fantastic progress was made for this organization and we’re in a much better place than we were during the Hopeless Summer of 2007 and Opening Day 2010.

The baseball historian side of me screams at me that we will look back at this World Series as a wasted opportunity and I hope we don’t become the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I think you could make the argument...

…that no team is built better for the next five years than the Texas Rangers.

Think about that. The Texas Rangers. The baseball with a cowboy hat.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

My fear is Josey may be right on this

There are franchises that were setup for years and then the windows suddenly closed on them. I look at the Rays and Tigers as prime examples of not taking advantage of the one World Series appearance. Having said that, it was still a great ride and I enjoyed every minute of it.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't worry about it now.

Build the best team you can in the offseason and send them out there. You can’t think every year “man, that was the one that got away!”

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Believe me I don't worry about it now

We’ll see in five years whether our attitudes change.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I'd put the Rays in that boat.

They haven’t been uncompetitive, they just haven’t made it back. Which sucks, but that’s the way baseball goes.

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

But that's kind of my point

I expect the Rangers to be competitive. But being competitive isn’t enough to make it back to the World Series much less winning one.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right, but that doesn't mean the window wasn't open for them.

I think the Rangers have a fine chance for the next two years, especially being in the AL West, and especially especially if they bring back Lee.

It would’ve been great to win one this year, but at the same time I don’t think you could ask for all that much more for the next two or three years as a Rangers fan.

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eddie Murphy had a joke in one of his standups. The girl says, “You haven’t called me in three days!” The guy replies, “I just called you three days ago!”

That’s kind of how I see our positions. You’re saying we have a good chance to win it all in the next two years. I’m saying we only have two years to win it all.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see how you read it that way

I just think the Rangers don’t have the financial capability to overcome a mistake. One bad trade (see the Tigers) or one bad signing (ARod?) can screw up a team’s window for years. That’s why you have to really take advantage of your opportunities, since its really easy to make a mistake in the front office that ruins the franchise for years.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

We had a window that we screwed up with ARod?

Was it a window looking out over a cesspool?

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't?

Competitive is plenty to win a World Series. Is it always sufficient? No. But when the stars align, competitive will do.

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

it takes a lot of luck and things happening just right to get to and win a World Series

throw timing in there as well, of course it takes the talent that goes without saying, but there are so many other factors involved. If the Rangers can stay healthy and make the right moves i see no reason why they cannot return to the playoffs next season. I sure hope so anyway

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's bullshit.

Which players from AAA & AA this past year are going to be difference-makers in the next 3 years?

I’d say we were set up for greatness if the core of this team (best players) were 24-27 years old.

That’s not the case in Texas.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

The next three years?

Beltre, Scheppers, Perez, Kirkman to name a few. You could throw guys like Olt and Profar out there, too, for having a chance to be difference-makers in 3 years.

And we have a significant “core” that is 24 or under, namely: Elvis, Feliz, Holland, and Moreland.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see

any position players making a difference in the next 3 years. There aren’t many rookies making an impact in their rookie years.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt it.

Right now he is a AA player without power or speed. In the next 3 years he might be Borbon.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

That should be

power or patience.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eh

Lots of scouts talking about his big strides forward this year; it’s entirely possible that he is in the majors in 3 years.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure he'll be in the Majors

as a Borbon type. Not as a Cruz or Hamilton type.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't know that right now.

For all you know, he could make the Leap this season. He has very good potential on defense and has improved dramatically on offense.

We’re saying it is POSSIBLE that he could be a difference-maker in the next three years.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be pretty insane

from where he is to be a difference maker in 3 years. It may be possible, but it is damn implausible.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would you categorize Elvis Andrus as a difference-maker?

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

he really wasn’t. According to Fangraphs, he was the 13th best SS in Baseball, and 5th in the AL. The offense was pretty much carried by Hamilton, Cruz, and Kinsler, and that is who will need to be replaced.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

1.5

according to Fangraphs.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

1.5

Almost exactly half of his rookie season, oddly.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've come to the conclusion you have to see Tiny E

play to truly appreciate what he brings to the party.

He’s one of those players who is much better than his numbers suggest.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has good games and bad.

Offensively mostly bad the second half.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis was a force in the

series’ against Tampa & NYY.

He needs to improve but he has the skill-set to do it.

More than anything, he’s a smart player.*

*Any dumbfuck who wants to accuse me of racism towards blacks or latins, please take note of what I just said about Tiny E.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

“You guys, I can’t be racist! I have this one black friend!”

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

where the hell did that come from, coffee just shot out my nose you prick!!!!

that was so far out of left field…lol

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

It seriously has to be the lulziest bit in current LSBdom

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Nov 2, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moreland was a force

in the WS. I don’t think that means he is a great player either.

Andrus has the skillset, but whether he will develop into that player remains to be seen.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do worry what this post-season

run will do the psyches of Holland & Big Game Tommy and what kind of pitchers they will be next year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Holland had taken a big step forward

in the Yankee series. Then he can’t find the strikezone vs SF. /shaking head

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

somebody is a tad bit defensive about something here.

I wonder why?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 3, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh,

players who bring value from their defense are going to have more variance in their WAR from year to year. I think most would argue that Elvis wasn’t as good defensively this year, but I think he was better than his 2010 UZR showed.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that one of BJames 10 Commandments?

Though shall not fall in love with thine light-hitting middle infielder?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

There is a bit of a difference due to Elvis’ age. It’s hard to project what he will be in his peak years.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given his agent

I have a prediction what he will be in his peak years :) Luckily that is so far away that I’m not gonna worry about it now.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Robby Alomar2.

If you can play almost every day in The Show as a 20 year old without drowning, you have a chance to be a star.

Alomar began to take off as an offensive force when he was 23 years and I’m leaving the front porch light on for Tiny E to be 90% of the hitter that Alomar was.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's possible.

I’m not sure what to expect exactly, but it’s better than this year.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Campaneris

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly...both very charismatic players

with a similar skill-set.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone suggest Beltre will be Cruz or Hamilton?

I think he’ll be better than Borbon, which he should be the CFer.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, once again, he should be a very good defensive CF'er who can hit and run.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck Judy.

If we need somebody to wave pom poms, wear silly goggles, untuck his shirt and put his hat on backwards, Judy has it covered but he’s not a player who you build around or who should get 450+ plate apperances.

He’s in love with the lifestyle but not the game.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
He’s in love with the lifestyle but not the game.

That doesn’t make sense.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

In the end.

Josey isn’t a scout, so all of his scouting reports are in fact, utter bullshit. Just ignore them.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

He specializes in offering no proof.

by Vooty on Nov 2, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Judy loves being a baseball player.

He’s too fucking stupid to learn how to be a good one.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have no way of knowing that at all

anything else you say about that is just your own biases towards him.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is quite literally a baseless accusation.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Makes sense to me......

Borbon loves being a major league player and thinks he is big shit and doesn’t have to work anymore to improve his game. He’s a fucking spare!!

I can’t stand Borbon.

2010 was awesome.

by b.pate on Nov 2, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And you have what evidence that this is the case?

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um...
He’s in love with the lifestyle but not the game.

That doesn’t make sense.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about Beltre.

But I’m glad you got another chance to give your spiel about Borbon.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our problem isn't going to be defensive

players who can be slappies. Our problem is gonna be big bats. All of our big bats will either have to be signed to big contracts by 2014 or we have to find some. We really don’t seem to have any big bats on the farm (either than Chris Davis :) ).

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

This team has to do better with DHing.

Period. Problem is, in 2011, the DH should be Michael Young, because even though his bat is a liability, keeping his glove off the field can only help.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah.

this is what i get for not reading the whole thread before I post almost this same thing up above.

by leviweaver on Nov 2, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like a DH who is a patient OBP machine

that hits with power and not a hackateer like Vlad.

Last off-season, we didn’t really have a choice.

This off-season, we’ll have options.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder what it would

take to get Dunn for a few years.

Downside is he’s lefty and I’m not sure he’d accept a DH role.

by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Nov 2, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many power hitters did the Giants have?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't believe the Posey home run went out.

Or the Renteria homer, for that matter. Maybe it was just where I was sitting, but both looked like deep but routine fly balls to me.

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

The baseball gods had decreed that Posey was hitting a home run in this World Series

The instant O’Day came in to face him I knew it was happening. I felt sorry for O’Day too… but it was the most obvious home run I’ve ever seen.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

It just didn’t look that well hit off the bat (again, from where I was sitting — the angle could have been a big factor, there), and it just kept going and going and going…

Apparently Nadel was caught off-guard, as well.

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Were you down 3B line or in LF?

I was and thought the same thing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Off the bat I thought both were flyouts for sure

then they just kept going, and going.

Vlad and cruz had hits to LF that off the bat I thought were gone and then they just died.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Nov 3, 2010 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

More than is generally assumed? Yes.

But I think it’s a valid counterpoint to the idea that you need 4 or 5 big power guys to win…especially if that negatively affects your defense.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

My problem isn't that

we won’t have 4 or 5 big power guys in 2014. I think we may only have 1 or maybe 2 plus whatever FAs we get. I just don’t see any real major bats on the farm since we traded Smoak. Unless Davis turns things around dramatically.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

again

of this team’s “power” guys, who would you have predicted would be here 3 or 4 years ago?

The key is in a year or two, the team needs to trade Cruz and/or Hamilton for a few good young players to become those guys. Not dump everyone and rebuild, but you can trade one without taking a big hit.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we are in contention

it is going to be awfully difficult to trade Cruz and Hamilton. The downside to being a contender is one of the main sources of baseball talent is pretty much shut off to us.

It’s easy to trade a Teixeira when you are 12 games under 500. If you are in the playoff hunt, you aren’t going to make that trade.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh

people say this, and obviously it isn’t easy to do it.

But again, fear of trading a star whose career is fading away is something that separates losers from winners. If Cruz has 3 good years left in him, then get what you can out of him and then trade him before he becomes what Vlad is now.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I just don't see

it happening. If we had an internal replacement for Cruz, maybe, but contending teams usually don’t weaken their chances of winning that year, and honestly, it seems pretty silly to do. Its one of the reasons you don’t see teams staying at the top indefinitely. Teams out of contention have much more flexibility to make deals that will help them in future years at the expense of the current year.

Other than the White Sox giveup trade of a decade ago when they were like 2 games out or whatever, I just don’t see many teams doing it.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of all of the things I'm concerned

about for the 2014 team, power isn’t one of them. Between the ballpark and the ability to relatively cheaply purchase (aging) power at the DH position and draft picks and trades that will almost certainly happen, this seems to be an odd concern. Yes, there is a bit of a weakness there in the farm system currently. No, it does not concern me…yet.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

you can pick up a Vlad Guerrero. I think folks underrate how hard it is to get guys like Josh Hamilton because we have always had a good stick like Josh, or ARod, or the Juan. I just see nothing like that in our minors, just a lot of toolboxes.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I just look at their ISO, and compare it to the Rangers, and wonder where the idea came from that the Rangers were simply going to outslug SF. I know you never argued that point, but a lot of folks did…

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is true, they are pretty close,

and I’m not even sure if that’s park-adjusted. I think the other issue is that both of these teams made moves (or allowed players to get healthy) that improved their teams dramatically. Only looking at team stats would always give an incomplete data set for projecting the World Series.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

The full-season ISO is definitely not the only thing you’d want to look at, but it’s a good start.

In any case, I think that was probably a better Giants lineup than some might’ve believed, but I also think things broke the right way for SF throughout the Series.

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,

the main thing I took away from watching their team over the past 5 games is “Holy crap, you get a really good team if hit on a lot of your first round draft picks.”

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Giants lineup did what the Giants lineup is suppsed to do

that is, score between 3 and 5 runs per game based on a couple of dingers from guys who have power but you tend not to think about.

They did their job despite a very good Rangers pitching staff

The problem in the series is that the Rangers offense didn’t do what they’re supposed to do, that is, score something like 5 or 6 runs based on both power, aggressive baserunning, etc.

They didn’t do their job partly becasue of the very good Giants pitching staff.

The Giants hitters played to their potential, ours didn’t. Ergo, they won.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Giants lineup didn't score 3-5

per game, but those last three games were certainly more what I’d expected the Series to look like than the first couple.

by Josh Garoon on Nov 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying that is what they were designed to do

and they did their job. The Rangers bullpen’s total inability to get an out allowed them to pad their stats a bit.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually,

the Giants lineup crushed our team in 2 games, and scored 3 and 4 runs in the other 2. That’s fairly normal. You don’t normally see a lot of 2-1 and 1-0 games in the World Series. Offense will need to be heard from, and, outside of Moreland, ours really wasn’t.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one is going to confuse our system with the Royals' in terms of position prospects

But I have faith that we can get what we will need by using what continues to be our strength, pitching.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,

I think the difference between now and a few years ago is significant, but it’s impossible to ignore the strength of the major league team and it’s vastly improved financial position.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

but nobody in the middle of the order is young

in 2-3 years we could realize that this team got old very fast. But, I do trust in JD.

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre is 20 years old.

Yes, we have some young pitchers in the fold but as we’ve seen with Holland, that doesn’t guarantee instant success in The Show.

We have Tiny E, who I think is going to be a star but other than that? Which every day players under 26 years old do we have that are going to be stars?

I do think the window is open next year to win it all if we sign Lee and then it’s time to reassess.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fortunately...

…we’ve got several position players (Andrus, Hamilton, Borbon, Cruz, Moreland, Kinsler, Young) who are under team control for a while.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

a while being 2012 for Hamilton and 2013 for Young, Kinsler and Cruz.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

AJM,

Hamilton, Cruz, Kinsler will all be in their 30s by 2012.

If you’re going to make more than a couple of World Series appearances in a 5 year window and don’t have a NYY / Boston payroll, you need to be like the mid 90s Braves.

They had 3 HOF pitchers (Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux) plus they brought up Schmidt, Millwood.

They had a HOF in Chipper Jones who was in his mid 20s. They had Javy Lopez and Klesko in their young 20s, AJones as a teenager and salty vets like Galarraga or McGriff playing 1B.

They also didn’t have “That’s The Way Baseball Go” as a manager.

We have next year covered but beyond 2011 it’s going to be dicey unless acquisitions are made.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is your point with this?

And why are you banging this particular drum over and over again on today of all days?

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably because

this team needs to go into the mortgage the farm mode to win now.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

really?

I don’t understand this at all. Other than Cliff Lee, what significant pieces won’t be here next year? Why do they need to trade anyone?

There is no reason that the current roster can’t win two more division titles, and by then hopefully one or two of the current top end guys (i.e., Perez, Scheppers, Beltre, etc) has moved up enough to make an impact.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

JBI

I think we have next year covered fairly well and as long as you have Cliff Lee you’re going to likely be a handful in the post-season but after 2011, we’re going to need to reassess.

We don’t have a core of 24-27 year old of very good players and that’s what you need for sustained levels of greatness.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

but they have a core of guys to get them through the next 2-3 years and they have younger players who may develop.

The key is to know when to pull the plug on guys like Cruz and Hamilton and trade them for the next generation. That is what tough-nosed GMs do.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the depth or our pitching on the farm can help take care of that..

Most teams out there will be happy to trade us young bats for young arms.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Nov 2, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Philly a couple of years ago.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

This was a wasted opportunity and most people don't realize it.

They seem to think this is going to happen every year and while we may be pretty good in the next 3 years, post-season runs like we just made are rare.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone thinks that.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who seems to think that?

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one.

He’s just farting it up again.

by Vooty on Nov 2, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very few new World Series teams do that well.

Texas hasn’t been in the playoffs in a long time. In a real sense this was a learning experience. It could be Texas won’t get back any time soon, but if they do, and I hope their goal next year will be to win 98 to 100 games during the season, they will not be surprised what the playoffs are like, and if they make it into the World Series, they will be a hungry team, not a team just happy to be there.

by Philar on Nov 2, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

This sums up my feelings to be exact

I cannot wait to see what changes are in store for next year

by shock00 on Nov 2, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

And rec.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't have said better muhself.

This season was absolute magic.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Free agents

My concern is that Lee is a FA, and Lewis and Wilson are 1 yr away from being free agents.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Nov 3, 2010 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Think about how the Rangers obtained the majority of their big talent this year:

Savvy trades. The Rangers, with the core they have right now, a collection of young talent in the minors, and a front office that has proven that it can make the right moves, are set up just fine.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

And by "big talent"...

…I mean Michael Young, Josh Hamilton, Nelson Cruz, Cliff Lee, Elvis Andrus, David Murphy.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Young is no longer a "big talent" for this team.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just can't wait to take a cheapshot, can you?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Accurate statements != cheap shots.

A cheap shot would be something like “Ryan Tannehill just threw another TD pass against Tech on Tuesday morning.”

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

How is that a cheapshot?

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh the irony.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Nov 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

My show is on in the evenings.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Late night with LSJ.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Next 3 years,

anyway.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mentioned the same yesterday

the attitude of we are built to return over and over is silly. You need so many breaks just to make it even if you are the best team. We had a chance against a beatable opponent and proceeded to waste it…

"Calmer than you are dude"

I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I referenced the '82 Brewers but look at some of the other teams from that decade.

‘83 Orioles are sure glad they beat the Phils because they haven’t been back to the World Series in 27 years.

’84 Tigers are sure glad they beat the Royals because they spent the next 22 years in the Sahara Desert before they STBF v the Cards.

‘85 Royals are sure glad they beat the Cards because they haven’t been back to the post-season in 25 years.

‘86 Mets are sure glad they beat the Red Sox because they’ve only been back to the World Series once in 24 years (where they STBF v the MF Yankees).

‘88 Dodgers are sure glad they won that World Series because they haven’t been back in 22 years.

‘89 A’s are sure glad they won that World Series because they haven’t been back in 21 years.

You can’t go through your life obsessing about what’s going to happen in the future but I promise you, we’re going to regret not winning this World Series for a very long time because this SFO Giants team was not a juggernaut.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

For once

I agree

"Calmer than you are dude"

I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 2, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

But it has happened...................................................

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think there is a difference between saying...

…that we are built to return to the WS over and over, and we are positioned to be a championship contender for the next several years.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you consider "several years"?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you mean, you people?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

My best interests?

How do you even know what my best interests are?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gained 15 lbs from bar food and ballpark food

the last 3 and half weeks… i need to get my ass back in the gym ASAP… jesus christ im getting old.

by I am Neftali Feliz on Nov 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

God, I'm the same way.

Between the stress and the abnormal eating, the 2010 Texas Rangers probably took six years off my life.

Totally worth it.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

me toooo

shit, this intense playoff thing is new to me. the only way i knew how to handle it was eat and drink a lot. both at home on away games and at the Temple for home games.

not good for my system.

by spatulacity on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

and i have fallen in love with widmer

so yeah.. wheat beer + pizza + wings + no gym = 15 lbs

by I am Neftali Feliz on Nov 2, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD IT'S FORMER RANGER GREAT BRUCE CHEN.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I better change my handle

After all, I led the “division rival” Royals in win this season. I’ll just end up pissing people off, like “BrettGardner.”

by BruceChen on Nov 2, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, come on, don't blame yourself...

It doesn’t take a reason for brettgardner to be pissed off.

by bhudson on Nov 3, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Today I mourn, tomorrow I start the diet and exercise program.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'm going to wait until sunday to start running

I really like going in the morning, and hopefully it will be light out early enough after the time change

by kevinkinsler on Nov 2, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh....

CJ just said he’s working on a screenplay of the 2010 season…….they have a partial list of actors to play the Rangers
Cruz: The Rock
MY: Eric Bana
Molina: Sinbad
Kins: James Franco
Frenchy: Billy Mays
Mike Maddux: the dad from Family Ties or Chris Cooper

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah................that would be a tough one...........

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

So

Would everybody in the movie have to shut their whore mouths when Jeff Francouer was talking?

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Michael Cerra as JD.

Nolan… himself

Godspeed Mike Olt.

by rooster on Nov 2, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will Arnett as Kinsler

He looks nothing like him but Arnett disputing a called strike with “C’MON!!!” would be awesome.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

And when he gets picked off 1st

He can say, “I made a huge mistake.”

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Nov 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

After Face GDPs

“Miiiichael!”

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

I don’t think anyone else could actually play Nolan Ryan.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be epic.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dave Chappelle.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Nov 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think Dave is too young

but they could probably make it work.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he gets the makeup guy from his old show, he could pull it off.

And only Dave could do the cracked out little dance Ron was doing in Game 6 of the ALCS.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eddie Murphy is only about 10 years younger than Wash, but as we all know he can play as old as he wants

he would be the perfect one for the role

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

picture Eddie doing

‘running Ron’ on the dugout steps.

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is already close

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

2011

No Benji
No Vlad
Mo Moreland.

by blakethegr8 on Nov 2, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Where is Moreland going?

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah.

I did not notice the M.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was the greatest Ranger season ever,

and I thought going into the WS that the ALCS victory would be enough, but I’m still pretty bummed today.

by jcAustin on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I’m pretty crushed. A nail-biting seven game loss would have been easier to take than the total shellacking that this thing was. It never really felt like we were in it.

Oh well. Best. Season. Ever.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I can stomach admitting when a team is just that much better than us. I’m already over this World Series, just as I quickly got over ther 2000 Stanley Cup Finals against New Jersey.

I still can’t stomach the Mavs blowing a 13 point lead in Game 3. I’ll never get over that.

Writer for Defending Big D

by Brandon Bibb on Nov 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Giants definitely played

better in this series, but I think part of what i’m having trouble with is that the Rangers didn’t show how good they were. But i agree, the Mav’s loss in the finals was much worse.

by jcAustin on Nov 2, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Much.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Nov 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

meh

Im a bigger baseball fan than a basketball fan…losing the WS hurts pretty bad

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

That fould call in game 5...

The 2000 SCF stayed with me for a while just because it was decided in OT. But that’s the way the Stars go…

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

That 2006 NBA Finals

I felt like the punk in the first Terminator movie that got his heart ripped out from his chest.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well put.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not feeling it today.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how I'd take a 7 game nailbiter,

but I’m kinda glad it happened like this instead of us getting out to a lead in the series and then blowing it — if we had lost the ALCS after being 3-1, for instance, I would’ve been way more devastated than this.

by Closure GT on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Getting out to a lead

and blowing it is an entirely different animal. THAT is not what I’m talking about. But a back and forth, evenly played seven gamer would have gotten us a lot more respect than the butt-whooping we got in this series.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Man, imagine the AngryDome.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Demons

Lots of demons were slain this year.

Even with the World Series lost and gone I can honestly say that I am satisfied and happy with this year. Gives us something to look forward to still.

by lothartvni on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Your 2010 Texas Rangers: the Sam and Dean Winchester of baseball.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm happy

40 years from now, people will remember the Rangers went to the World Series in 2010. No one outside those cities will remember that Tampa, NY, Minny, Philly, Atlanta, or Cincy (I actually almost forgot them already) made the playoffs.

The Rangers won the American League. Eat it Seattle.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Off season wish list

#1-10 resign Cliff Lee

  1. Sign Victor Martinez to fill the catcher spot
  2. Sign either Konerko or Beltre to fill Vlad’s spot
  3. Resign or extend any obvious contributor to the team

by jefe6801 on Nov 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Victor Martinez is fucking terrible behind the plate.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Remember how every time we played Boston it was like being invited to a track meet?

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Victor Martinez.

Not for catcher, and I don’t really want to spend that much for him to DH anyways. I’m pretty anti Martinez.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who is a good DH option for next year?

The names are either old and expensive (Dunn, Martinez) or just old (Vlad, Berkman, Ordonez, Konerko, Ramirez, etc.).

by cstorm15 on Nov 2, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most free agents

are old. Most players dont hit free agency til 30 or so. To get a good young player, you are going to have to trade Martin Perez/Beltre type prospects.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not much.

VMart, Ramirez, Tome, Michael Young…

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of picking up someone who will allow us to rotate the DH spot, myself.

Hamilton is gonna need his fair share of DH at-bats in any given season I’ve got a feeling.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then we probably need to trade

for a CF.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Carl Crawford

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is pretty much

a COF.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's said multiple times he won't play CF.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

ack....wasn't aware of that......

OK…..what now?

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard he doesn't want to play CF.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Nov 3, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want Colby Rasmus

I don’t like what it would take to get him, but I want him.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Astros are rebuilding.

What does it take to get Bourn? Probably way too much.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

God, yes.

Colby Rasmus makes my baseball pants vibrate, and now that the Cards have re-signed LaRussa, he could be available for a stupid-high price.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we could get him for some sort of package centered around Holland

Kinda like Hamilton/Volquez redux, I think I do it.

That’s probably incredibly wishful thinking though.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if it makes sense to get the Red Sox (who may want Crawford)

to give you Mike Cameron for a song (where they kick in some dough).

I like having Murphy here because he can sub for Josh & Cruz when, not if, if they get hurt. He’s a nearly perfect 4th OF.

Bring in Cameron, if he’s not toast (which may be the problem) who is a RH bat that can play some CF. If he’s toast, I’d look for a RH hitting CF who can go get it.

You don’t have to boot Josh from CF permanently but if you hold him to 50 games out there while giving him plenty of rest, I’d be good with that.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know when I first started reading, this my first guess was AJM had posted it

Heh.

But I agree, Cameron sounds like a good target if he’s not the outfielding version of Mike Lowell at this point.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if Cameron has had it.

He is old but we need somebody like him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cameron was pretty bad last year

Defensively, his UZR/150 fell from 11.4 in 2009 to -28.2 in 2010. This could be an anomaly, or Cameron may have lost a step.

by cstorm15 on Nov 2, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was hurt almost all year but given his age, he could be done.

If there’s a 2005 version of Aaron Rowand out there, I’d take him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or

UZR/150 isn’t all that accurate.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it did have Brett Gardner twice as good as any fielder in baseball this year.

Seems accurate.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it didn't.

Bourjos was higher.
If you don’t break it down into solely his LF numbers, you’ve got Torres within 3 runs and about 7 other guys with at least half of his UZR/150 in the outfield. I’m not even looking at infield.

There are tons of arguments against the accuracy of UZR/150. That, however, was an awful one (mainly because it’s not true).

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, I'm really gonna hate that Bourjos kid.

In a totally covetous way.

"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Nov 2, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Posey.

=\

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

But im really dreading the day Trout gets to the majors.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Nov 3, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just going off of what Fangraphs tells me.

Is there an innings minimum on their board?
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2010&month=0

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,

but for some reason, they also break it down by position, which is foolish for UZR/150. Given how UZR is prone to fluctuations under the best circumstances, it’s not a good idea for them to extrapolate Gardner’s 700 innings in left. He played 500ish innings in other outfield positions.

Bourjos only played like 450 innings. His overall UZR/150 is 17 runs better than Gardner’s while solely playing a more difficult position. But I don’t use UZR/150 anyway.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops.

900 innings in left for Gardner. 300ish in center. Got the total right, didn’t remember the positional breakdown.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, but UZR/150 is what we were talking about.

So I don’t think it’s an awful argument to show how inconsistent it can be. I wasn’t making anything up.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I realize that.

It’s not meant to be used in even smaller sample sizes. Just a misapplication of an already flawed stat.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basically, I'm not gonna let that stat scare me away from Cameron, per se.

If it brought up a red flag, fine, but I’m gonna watch tape of him to determine how he looks out there.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, you shouldn't

I’d also be pretty close to saying you shouldn’t really care about UZR/150 at all.
My main point was that your example wasn’t a good one.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think defense

is still one of those things where stats are in their infancy. I look at DRS and UZR, and their disparities can be fairly eye opening at times.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

That’s why I don’t have blind faith in any single defensive stat. It’s still better than going off their reputation, though.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need to keep up with the implementation

Of the new defensive system, I can’t wait.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martinez?

not a fucking chance

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on Nov 2, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Olt appreciates the honor but is a little embarrassed about being #5 on that list....

he would have been fine with just being mentioned in the “others” list and allow someone else to be mentioned in the #5 spot.

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

whatever you do there

no whining.

Yeah. No whining.

Please… no whining

wow… Sickles is a beating sometimes. His flipping out at t ball the other day annoyed me.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup, totally uncalled for.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wha?

Can you link me to the Sickels/t ball confrontation?

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

here

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/10/29/1782302/texas-rangers-preliminary-prospect-list#50643687

pretty minor, but it just struck me as weird. Especially since tball is about the most balanced poster around anywhere

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sickles is a cat lover.

That’s what you get from cat lovers.

Godspeed Mike Olt.

by rooster on Nov 2, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Colby Lewis too.

Thanks for the first three months Vlad, but good riddance.

by LSJ on Nov 2, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Colby

was absolute fucking money.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mitch is dumb as a rock

He didn’t realize that it was the WS, he is a rookie hitting 9th against the Giants. What’s his problem?

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forrest Gump meets The Show = Mitch Moreland.

I think he’s going to be a Pete O’Brien type of hitter. Not a star but very serviceable and mentally tough.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would take that from Moreland.

Pete was pretty consistent when he was a Ranger putting up OPS’s between .760 and .854. (Pete asked that we just forget his 1983 seaason.)

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is all the Rangers need from a firstbaseman

Thanks for playing, Chris Davis, but you couldn’t even win at the “all we need is a league average hitter” contest.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's such a weapon when he hits like that

in the 9 hole.

The kid is nails mentally but does need to spend the off-season working on his defensive skills when he isn’t hunting pelts.

What happens to Chris Davis?

The only thing I give him is the Nelson Cruz Treatment. He goes to OKC until August and if he gets an opportunity, he better cash in.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I shitcan him OKC and let hope he can build up his trade value.

Then I move him at the deadline.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Nov 3, 2010 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would have settled for

a little below average, honestly.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

I like Moreland a lot. Especially because he brings plate discipline that some of our other big hitters don’t really have, and you need someone in your lineup who has that. He may never be a great hitter, but a good hitter who is a tough out is something I’ll take.

I would like to see him work on his defense some. But, from what I understand, Moreland hasn’t actually had that much time at 1B?

Nights like last night where he had the error, but also had a really nice pick to get a close out, lead me to believe that with enough practice his defense can be good enough.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he only had 19 or so games at 1B in AAA.

So yeah, the future looks bright with him on improving defense.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

What can you say...

WOW!!! What a season. Thanks Rangers for the ride, the wonderful memories and for something I thought I might never see… Our Texas Rangers in the World Series. Defending ALCS Champs!!! That has a nice ring to it!! Loved every minute. Yes disappointed with the final outcome of the WS but proud of where this team came from and what they ultimately did. We beat those dam Yankees. :)

by Ranger_Rick on Nov 2, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

The Giants.

They hang up on you and never take your call again.

Posey is already one of the two or three best catchers in the league. That’s almost impossible to find.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup...

Posey for Elvis + Feliz would be more likely.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Nov 3, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Giants.

They’re not far away from a major overhaul — Lincecum FA, a bunch of their talent leaving/getting old — and Posey is their franchise.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares about the Giants overhaul?

They have rings.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I was answering a question that you clearly didn't read.

But thanks for playing.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll say that I really enjoyed watching one player on the Giants, and that was Posey....kid is an animal behind the plate.

What a rocket.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

he is Elvis

he is OUR elvis…fuck posey

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on Nov 2, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Today/last night are downers.

I’ve watched this team for years and their season was almost always over by the first week of October. Seven months each year I look forward to Rangers baseball. The other five is keeping up with their off-season moves. I know they went farther than I ever dreamed, but it’s still disappointing. I don’t know what’s more disappointing the Rangers loss or the loss of baseball until 2011. I never give up on them, but sometimes its hard to watch something fail that you can’t do anything to help and means a lot to you. Anyway thanks for sharing your Rangers fandom… Rangers in 2011!

"Elvis Andrus just sneers at sliders..." - Josh Lewin

by pro82 on Nov 2, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Post-Season sadness ... or maybe not.

So I woke up this morning and realized that this was the first day of Fall with no Rangers baseball. That day makes me sad every year, even when they are terrible. I like my 6 months a year of being able to tune in every day for a game. So, as usual, I had a heavy heart on that first day with no more baseball.

Then I remembered that, this year, that first day came on November 2nd. And that first day came on November 2nd because my Rangers are AL Champs. That made me smile. I am still sad that there is no more Rangers baseball to watch this year. But I am more optimistic and excited about this team than I have ever been before. They accomplished the unthinkable this season and they’re only going to get better.

Today is a good day.

"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball

by Athos on Nov 2, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

yep

I really hate the offseason. Football is but a mere distraction on weekends and I could care less about basketball or hockey.

But I’ll take any offseason that starts in November.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I must admit.

I was much closer to crying last night than from any of the winning. It didn’t happen, but man was I disappointed.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pat Burrell

should sell his WS ring on Ebay and donate the money to cancer research. A DH that struck out 11 of 13 at bats. Ridiculous!!!

"Calmer than you are dude"

I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Vlad

WS: 1-14

Ugh

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Josh wasn't all that much better.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

2-20

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He only referenced DH’s. Honestly, we could go through the entire lineup sans Moreland and have this discussion.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

But at least Josh was great in the ALCS Vlad was just not very good in any of the playoff series

Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."

by TRFAN on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vlad didn't win a ring

The Rangers lost because of Vlad etc. The Giants won in spite of Burrell’s historical suck. That was the point of my post…

"Calmer than you are dude"

I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 2, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the real problem.

If Vlad had just had a bad WS, it would be one thing… but that isn’t the case here.

Vlad wasn’t good the whole second half of the season, or in the playoffs at all.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

Listening to Johnny Cash’s version of “Hurt” does make it a bit better. But not much.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Nov 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

So now that the postseason run is over...

…what was “the moment”?

Obviously, Feliz K’ing Rodriguez was awesome…but give me Kinsler’s 2-run homer in Game 5 of the ALDS.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Obviously, it was the HR in game 2 in Tampa.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Cruz’s shot, having the fireworks go off and having the entire stadium briefly glow red.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Benji's homer against the Yanks

The reaction of Cevilli (sp?) and ARod was classic.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Nov 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was a good one for sure.

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by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cruz homer in the ALCS that sealed it for the Rangers....

that gif where the fireworks turned the stadium red still gives me goosebumps…

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chuck Morgan has said

that they set off the fireworks when the Ranger hitter touches 2B.

by RangerMad on Nov 2, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

just reading about it right now gave me goosebumps...

someone post that shit up, please?

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by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here ya go.

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by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

yup....worked again.....

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I have to go with this.

That said, the Guererro double that put the Rangers ahead is going to forever be one of the greatest moments in Ranger history, even if it did come from an otherwise-disappointing Vlad.

And, of course, the Molina homer.

I think, though, the Cruz homer gets bonus points because Cruz has been and will be a Ranger.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The combo of the Vlad double and the Cruz homer right after

was amazing. The electricity in the stadium when that happened was incredible. Best. Sports. Moment. Ever.

For me anyways.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

anything will ever beat Game 6 of the ALCS for me, not even a World Series win. Exorcising so many demons in one game will be hard to top in my book.

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

For once, we agree.

Being there, too.

Game 6 of the ALCS is the greatest memory of my sports life. It beats the championships my other teams have won, even. Easily.

It’s hard for me to even express the joy of that game.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

For once?

We’ve disagreed before?

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uniforms. Pretty vehemently.

Usually I wouldn’t remember something like that, but your username sticks out to me for some reason.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, ok.

Yeah, I’m a whiny little bitch about uniforms.
:^)

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heheh, well, I've come around a little bit on the subject.

I still like the red, but my next jersey purchase is going to be a blue one.

Just waiting to see if Cliff Lee re-signs, so I know if I’m getting a Lee or a Lewis.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'd be more open to the red

if it wasn’t such a bright red. I have found myself warming to it a bit more of late though.

I’d get a Colbyashi one if I were you. Listening to Lee talk last night didn’t exactly make me feel good about him resigning. I know he was just being professional and non-committal and all, but he sounded like an outside contractor with the “they” references to the Rangers.

I hope to hell I’m wrong…I’d love for him to finish his career in a Rangers uni, even if the jersey if fucking red.

:^)

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

/is fucking red

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, there were a couple of quotes last night where he said "we" and "next year".

It’s hard to tell, though, how much of his “I don’t know if I’m going to be here next year” is what he really thinks, and how much of it is trying to maintain his bargaining position.

I guess we’ll see.

Part of me is thinking of going for the Lewis anyway, both because he is an old Ranger come back to us, and because his journey fascinates me.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

What quotes?

I read “we” way more than “they”.

by jthig32 on Nov 2, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it's Lewis...

You have to get a white one.

by bhudson on Nov 3, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

going to the World Series with my dad

I’ll NEVER forget that. I got to go to the World Series with my father who taught me the game. Love you dad!!!

by Doc Mabee on Nov 2, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I got to take my dad to a game in every round. Awesome experience.

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by Athos on Nov 2, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Moment

for me was being in the stands for Game 6 in the ALCS when Granderson struck out for the first out in the 9th inning.

Being the Yankees and everything, they’re not dead until there’s a stake in their heart but it was at that point that I allowed myself to believe it was really going to happen much like I did in the last 5 minutes of the Stars’ WC Finals Game 7 in ’99 .

I was audibly saying “The Texas Rangers are going to the fucking World Series!!!”

That anticipation, the ARod K, the dogpile, the fireworks, the look on Young’s face, the players acknowledging the crowd….to me that was The Moment.

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by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Feliz

But Bengie Molina’s HR in NY was great.

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by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

the silence of the crowd was the best

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by AndrusImpersonator on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not only was it awesome

but TBS went out of their way to “put in the call” with the HR montage just before it. Greatness.

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by Lisa W on Nov 2, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I missed ALCS Game 6 because some asshole stole my TV.

So I’d have to say Ian’s 2R shot against Soriano and his little hop-skip to first.

by mizzou918 on Nov 2, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Underrated moment there

Good call.

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by Parman on Nov 3, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite moment was Nelly stealing 3rd in game 5 of the ALDS.

To me, it was the most exciting play in a “do or die” game, and that was the moment I started to think we were actually going to win our first ever playoff series.

by blakethegr8 on Nov 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me, it was Mitch's homer in game 3 of the World Series.

Mostly because I got to see it in person. Plus it was the difference maker in the Rangers’ only World Series victory.

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by crazy86er on Nov 2, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers aside

This community has grown in so many ways this year – from suite night to the tailgate – hundreds of new Ranger fans have enlisted, both online and in the ranks

We had LSB members come in from all over in the playoffs…

I’m really sad it’s all over… I’m fighting back the tears

by oc on Nov 2, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

We can all still be friends!

Don’t cry, oc. Come get a beer with me and I Am Neftali Feliz. It will be ok.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know exactly what you mean, OC

I’ve thought a lot about how we’ll never be able to duplicate the raw emotions that we all felt this year. Any future success will be put in a frame of reference that never existed before this year. Now the goal – nay EXPECTATION – is that the Rangers should damn well compete for the World Series. That’s not a bad thing, of course, but it’s never going to be that magical, unexpected season again. At least not until the Rangers are terrible for a decade again.

My enjoyment of this season has only been heightened by LSB and LSBers. Getting to know you people, and getting to meet some of you added something special. I don’t really know how to characterize it, but just getting to share the ups and downs of this season with people like me on this board makes it all the more memorable.

Coming into the season, even the most optimistic of us wouldn’t have predicted the Rangers running away with the division and streaking all the way to the World Series. The new feelings this season brought up in me have changed forever how I’ll watch and enjoy the Rangers and baseball and baseball in general, and that makes me a little sad to think I may never enjoy another season of baseball as much as I enjoyed this one.
I don’t know if it’s being jaded, or that my expectations are rightfully raised, but there will never be another season like this, and for that I’m grateful.

by jam0152 on Nov 2, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There's only one first time.

You’re right, there will never be another season like this. This was magical, and falling a little short in the end doesn’t dampen it.

That said, the year when we finally do win it all… whether that’s next year, ten years from now, whenever… that will be special, too.

And while no other season will ever be like this, I still see a whole lot of fun baseball in our future. I’m looking forward to it.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You never forget your first.

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by slc ranger on Nov 3, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

we can still drink together

by kevinkinsler on Nov 2, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very well said oc.

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by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have enjoyed the hell out of my first season on LSB.

First I enjoyed reading all of the posts early in the year before I took the plunge and signed up. It was fun joining in on the epic GDTs. It was great getting in on discussions, even when they got heated (I have learned to stay away from the College Football threads). The best part was getting to meet a bunch of my LSB brethren at the spectacular tailgate party. Even though the Rangers lost, that was still a great day. I have greatly enjoyed the ride this season, and I am proud to be a member of Lone Star Ball.

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by crazy86er on Nov 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

what a freaking awesome season

last night I was sitting up RIGHT next to the SF Giants family/friends section?? I assume that’s what it was…200+ fans there in the upper deck.

I hafta say…it SUCKED watching them celebrate…knowing that soo many said the Rangers would win it in five…I expected that to be the entire stadium going crazy with the Rangers dog piling on the mound. hated seeing it be the giants

The LET’S GO RANGERS chant that started about a minute after the final pitch was awesome. I hope the team heard it.

by Doc Mabee on Nov 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Me too.

Sect. 323 last night, and all postseason. It sucked.

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by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I fired off an email

to the fan liason asking WTF was up with that shit…very horrible move selling such a big swath of seats to them. Not sure if that was the Rangers doing or MLB’s, but it fucking sucked. I was in 326, luckily I didn’t forget my radio last night (but I did Sunday, and that REALLY sucked).

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

spent most of the game trying to shout them down...

but if that was the family section…you can’t not sell that to them

furthermore…if it was the family/friend section…I’m freaking SHOCKED they got put in the upper deck…last 10 rows.

by Doc Mabee on Nov 2, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

next year put them in the No Alcohol section.

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by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha!

that’s be awesome…especially the NEXT YEAR part…yeah…that’s a must

by Doc Mabee on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Break it up

into multiple family/friend sections, is all I’m saying. Spread ’em out. If the Rangers/MLB have the power to reserve such a huge section for opposing team family friends, they can sure as shit spread them out.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is dumb

Did you see the Rangers family section in NY? It’s never going to happen man, it makes sense to put them together.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

that way you can dump beer with no worry of collateral damage.

by bhudson on Nov 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, it's not "dumb"

Of course I saw the Rangers section in NY, so what? It’s idiotic to cluster that many opposing fans together no matter what ballpark you’re in.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's dumb

There are family sections at every. single. game.

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by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

NO, it is not dumb.

I’m not saying “eliminate family sections”, I’m say break the mother fuckers up into smaller clusters scattered throughout the goddamned stadium so they don’t have such a concentrated, loud fucking voice. Christ!

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying they do

the noise is a side-effect of bunching them together like that, which is the whole premise of my gripe. Again, not saying eliminate family/friends sections, just group them in smaller clusters(20 or so) throughout the stadium. You still get the “safety in numbers”, but elimate the fucking SUCK that home fans have to endure when those clusters are in the hundreds. Why is this such a hard concept for you to grasp?

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is it a hard concept to grasp

That families should sit together? Safety in numbers. Look at what happened to the Rangers’ families in NY.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you fucking dense?

Did I say break them into groups of 1 or 2 seats and scatter them?

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok. Have fun with this

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I accept

your surrender.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers did it the right way by putting them

at the top of a section. If they didn’t those assholes would have been pelted by all sorts of garbage from behind.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Nov 2, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fine

stick em in the upper decks, just scatter them. That fucking SUCKED having that many Giants fans in such a huge cluster. It gave them a loud, powerful voice and was annoying as shit. This was perfectly avoidable without sacrificing “safety in numbers”

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing that will always make me hate them

is that they were chanting “Let’s Go Giants” while Ogando was being looked at and taken off the field by the trainer.

I mean, shit. I’ve NEVER seen that happen. I have never seen a group so obviously NOT observe in silence or at least respectful quiet.

"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Nov 2, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that's tacky, too, then.

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by Lisa W on Nov 2, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
mental_floss A 2006 U of Texas study of kids age 5-10 found that 1-in-4 thought it was illegal for minorities or women to be president.

by octoberty on Nov 2, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You need to meet more Eagles fans.

Actually, it’s probably best you didn’t.

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JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seperate, but equal.

Brilliant!

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 2, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

If our fans had more to cheer about during this series

Nobody would have heard their families, no matter how condensed they were.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, but

since we didn’t have anything to cheer about, having hundreds of Giants fans adding to the demoralizing was a huge, AVOIDABLE bag of suck.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, they just replayed that on the Fan

Fucking Awesome.

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was Giants employees. As a surprise gift to their employees...

…the Giants chartered two 747s and flew the entire staff, including interns, to Texas to see the games. Each staff member got to bring a guest.

If you look at it dispassionately, ya gotta admit it was a pretty classy move by the Giants ownership.

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Nov 2, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

And had to be hella-expensive.

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by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

I think I am right in saying that all the full time Rangers employees went to San Fran also. I know that my wife’s supervisor could not answer a question for her until all the staff came back to Arlington.

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by horsedooty on Nov 2, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

went to 6 post season games. 2 in each series

sat in the bleachers 3 times, upper deck 2 times and Lexus Club Box 1 time.

by far the best place I sat was the bleachers. It was freaking awesome out there. Probably because they were the cheapest seats in the house and more of the diehard fans could afford those.

worst place..Lexus Club Box (which are my FAVORITE seats in The Temple). Fans were boring there.

by Doc Mabee on Nov 2, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I think right now I'm a little concerned about how watching postseason baseball will affect my perception

of a Tuesday night game against the Indians in May….I’ll still enjoy winning, but it won’t mean much in the postseason next fall

by kevinkinsler on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I have a question for Rangers fans

what are your thoughts on Tanner Scheppers?

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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Still a ton of promise.

His control vanished late in the year last summer.

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right

I am researching prospects for an article soon and my first guy is Scheppers.
How old is he?

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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Link for you.

Here’s his B-Ref page with most of the basics. There are a bunch of prospect gurus around here who will be able to shed some pretty good light on what to expect from him.

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by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

High ceiling, low floor.

Most expect him to at least contribute in the bullpen in 2011.

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JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like him

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by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bright future

just ran out of gas this year.

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by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's going to be very good if he stays healthy.

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by slc ranger on Nov 3, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had prepared myself for whatever was going to happen

last night. I had the mindset of “What a fantastic ride – if we lose, I’m just glad we made it this far” … but holy shit when Renteria hit that HR, I fell down hard. There apparently was no such thing as me being ok with what was going to happen… b/c that shit hurt. Made me numb. I’m better this morning. I look back and think “Damn, baseball fever swept across the metroplex and I got to experience it all”.

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by Adebesi on Nov 2, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

It was pretty refreshing this morning

jumping on LSB and see all of your reactions to last night. Helluva season. I went to 2 real playoff games in Arlington and we won one of them! I found out what it feels like to be on the winning side of the coin with my Yankee brother-in-law in tow. Wow. Could you do that again please?

Great season. Thanks Rangers!!!

by corbsclinton on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

So

How active is LSB during the offseason?

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 2, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Awesome

wish to hell I’d found this site sooner than August. Not sure how the hell I missed it for so long.
Oh well, I’m here now, my new Interwebs home.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get off my lawn

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by Parman on Nov 3, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for truth.

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by TXHC on Nov 3, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sexually?

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by RCCook on Nov 2, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's like Las Vegas.

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"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

How much do you like talking

Hot stove? You will see wailing and gnashing of teeth over NRI pickups.

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by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Giddy-up, buddy.

When you root for an historically crappy team, the offseason is sometimes the highlight.

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by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Leach was torched last year in late December and you would have

thought that Michael Young had demanded to be traded again by the amount of activity in LSB.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

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by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

like a bad outbreak of the herp

but with more prospect bitchings….and less sores

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by AndrusImpersonator on Nov 2, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are days where the AM post is "not much Rangers news out there today"

but there’s always something to talk about….

Stick around….this offseason promises to be very interesting……

When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." – Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 2, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

This off-season will probably center around Cliff Lee

but there will be other decisions surrounding another OF, DH and C to discuss.

Jeeeez, I wanna say the discussions last January surrounding Joe Inglett were fairly lengthy and remember all the angst caused by the Lowell for Max Ramirez rumored trade?

There was also a ton of commotion when Will Carroll Dumbass opened up his yap.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

To knock you down a peg.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Nov 2, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Until everybody realized what a dumbass Will Carroll was being.

One year of a very expensive Carl Crawford for four years and some cost certainity of Nelson Cruz?

You sure as fuck better kick in one of those big arms not named Price if you want me to make that deal.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

signing Cliff Lee

if CLee is anywhere as moral as I like to think he is, I believe he will resign with the Rangers since, in my mind and I hope his also, “HE OWES US.” :)

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Nov 2, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say that he owes us.

He gave us an awful lot.

That said, there is unfinished business here. If I as a fan can feel this, I hope that Lee as a competitor can feel it. His quotes last night lead me to believe that he does.

I think he will stay. Partly because I think he wants to, and partly because I believe the Rangers’ ownership will come up with the cash to make it happen.

by Stormwalker on Nov 2, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

I did have tongue in cheek when I wrote that. Of course he doesn’t owe us anything. I sure hope he stays for more selfish reasons than one.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Nov 2, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball season never ends here.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Nov 3, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...
aarongleeman Read the scouting report on a 20-year-old Edgar Renteria – http://bit.ly/9Cj51k

Profar?

by octoberty on Nov 2, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fantasy Baseball Team Name - Explosive Renteria

I will never use it again. FUCKER!

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Nov 3, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm alot more content than It thought I would be.

The Rangers gave us a magical run and there’s no reason they can’t do it again, especially if we re-sign Lee.

It’s just unbelievable to think that our Rangers will be the reigning American League champions. Wow.

We’ve also now won as many World Series games as the Padres and Rays and more than the Astros, Rockies, Mariners and Nationals.

by mizzou918 on Nov 2, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Last night during the 7th and 8th innings this cold air

started blowing through the ballpark and it kind of felt like the season ending. It got cold and the fans went into shock. It was a shitty realization.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Nov 2, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

You know what I also noticed?

I was at the ballpark around 630 and you couldn’t help but notice how beautiful the setting was.

You had a beautiful day ordered straight from the San Diego Chamber of Commerce and a ballpark strewn with bunting about to have a World Series played within it. Lincecum was just starting to throw soft-toss in LF.

I breathed it all in and then said “Oh shit look at the colors of those clouds above the ballpark.”

The color of the clouds overlooking the ballpark was the exact orange in the San Francisco Giants color scheme. That’s when I thought we may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ask anybody who was there what color

those clouds were at 630 and I don’t hunt for recs.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey is absolutely right.

It is a sign from God!

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

God hates Texas

That’s why he made the sky all San Francisco esque

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Nov 2, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which God are you talking about, you damned Jihadist?!

/Rush

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Very nice.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice pic and that gives it a point of reference but that's essentially the sun.

I was talking about the clouds above the ballpark when the sun was close to setting.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I realize that it’s essentially the sun. I mean, it is the sun. But you can see the sky and the clouds are orange.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I found it to be more of symbol

to the sunset that is the Cowboys season.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Shit...

The moon is already high up in the sky and the stars are shining bright as far as that is concerned.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or it's the beauty of baseball,

that can’t be measured by UZR or xFIP.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Blah blah blah, let's talk about the fucking clouds.

OH MY GOD, IT’S A PLASTIC BAG FLUTTERING IN THE WIND! IT’S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING IN THE WORLD…

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this where you throw a box of Kleenex at me?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And a package of tictacs after you slob on Young's knob again.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you yelling?

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a happy yelling.

I guess I could be pretty pissed off about what happened to the Rangers… but it’s hard to stay mad, when there’s so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I’m seeing it all at once, and it’s too much, my heart fills up like a balloon that’s about to burst… And then I remember to relax, and stop trying to hold on to it, and then it flows through me like rain and I can’t feel anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life… You have no idea what I’m talking about, I’m sure. But don’t worry… you will someday.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this about kids?

I feel like this is a parent thing that I don’t get, perhaps in part because of the whole wife-baby-fever thing that results in me acting like kids don’t exist.

Or maybe it’s just prose.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a quote from American Beauty.

The movie where the guy goes apeshit about a plastic bag floating around in the wind.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, that makes more sense.

I’m still sticking with the “If I pretend they don’t exist, then we can’t talk about them (or what they’re eating/wearing/throwing up), which means you can’t get as excited about having one” plan.

Though, honestly, I’m open to alternatives. Maybe back to the “Do you know how long Labor lasts?” plan?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell her that my wife was in labor for 24+ hours. Had to actively push for 4.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks,

I need more stories like this.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

George Bernard Shaw said youth is wasted on the young.

Not cynicism. Have some fun, man.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josie doesn't hunt recs, he hunts flags

that’s what makes him ban-worthy

"If I have to get cute, it's going to get ugly." - Nibbler

by Panorama on Nov 2, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yea I noticed that. It never felt like it was our night.

Even when Cliff was matching Timmy it just seemed like in the end they would make the big play and we would not.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Nov 2, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck you

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on Nov 2, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Nov 2, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Nov 3, 2010 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the record, I'm giving JD an A-

for his work this past off-season/in-season.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, so the deep run in the playoffs, which is what you said you needed to see first...

only bnumped him from a B+ to an A-???

I think you taught my 1st year circuit theory course..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Nov 2, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

What kept him from an A+? That forces me to dwell on negatives when so many positives happened.

Roster construction out of the gate (Harden signing, 1B, C, clusterfuck of LH OFs), 90 wins in a shitty division, letting Borbon play that long, Cantu, Molina & Lee WS performances (they were outstanding in post-season up to the WS), post-season roster construction.

I had JD at a B before the post-season and he ended up with an A-.

That’s more than fair.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is kinda like saying no girl is a 10.

I’m sure we could find minor faults with every team, every year.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

He took a huge step forward in my eyes this year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lemmefixitforyou
He took a huge step forward in my eyes this year in 2007.

Kthxbuhbye

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Nov 3, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's merely the difference between an A- and an A+.

Molina also sucked in the regular season and Lee was also kinda meh.

Both were excellent in the ALDS / ALCS.

My biggest problems with JD came mostly in the regular season.

I’m far more comfortable with the current dynamic in the Ranger FO than I was from 2006-2008 (Nolan’s year of observation was 2008).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And why was Nolan's year of observation 2008?

The same reason 2009 was the year JD sat back and watched Nolan fix things.

Because Josey said so.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan didn't come here until that glorious day in February 2008.

He said that in his first year he was going to evaluate, observe and make suggestions. He also said he’d make necessary changes after 2008.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't know why

you can’t see anything as a collaborative effort. It’s always either JD or Nolan making the decisions.

by AsDevilsRun on Nov 2, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't I say that I'm far more comfortable with this dynamic

than what we saw in 2006-2008?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did say it.

JD had the bar raised on him and he got there.

What they have now is so much better than what they had in 2006-2008.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's his thing, better learn to deal with it or you'll go crazy.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Nov 2, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he is intellectually dishonest.

And likes getting people to respond to him. Troll.

by Vooty on Nov 2, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently JD should have had an MD

Then he could have taken care of the injuries as well.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a lawyer and an Aggie.

You’re not capable of “utmost honesty.”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a dumbass and a Techtard.

You’re not capable of spelling “utmost” without consulting a dictionary or spell-check.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Angel fan here

It should come as no surprise that I loathe the Rangers (as I assume you all loathe the Angels). Still, I just wanted to stop by and tip my hat to you guys. This season, you did everything right with little to no money and beat us and the rest of the AL fair and square. You put together one hell of a baseball team that will be the thorn in our side for years to come and I look forward to the rivalry for the AL West crown.

Hold your heads up high, Texans, you guys put together one hell of a year and I promise, as a fan who has been there watching his team suck year after year, it’s not over for you guys. Well done and congratulations on the American League crown.

Red Hudler > Rodger Lodge

by Teixeira Who? on Nov 2, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I like your username.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aqua on Nov 2, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Yes, I “hate” your team, but at season’s end, no matter the outcome, I like to think I can sit and have a brewski with any baseball fan, no matter where they hail from, and share the love for our beloved sport.

Apologies for the smarmyness of my reply, but I love baseball more than I “hate” your identity challenged Los Anaheim Angels.

Thanks for stopping by.
:^)

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

p.s.

I like your username too.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get it. What is a Teixeira?

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Nov 2, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a new entry

into the feminine hygiene market. Summer’s Eve is hella worried about their market share.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I thought “Teixeiraing” was a euphamism for “PMSing while looking like a dope.”

by FuturePants on Nov 2, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

p.s.s.

Doesn’t “Los Angeles Angels” translate into “The Angels Angels”?

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It does

The LA school system is a nightmare out here. I’m just glad they spelled everything correctly.

Red Hudler > Rodger Lodge

by Teixeira Who? on Nov 2, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by DonDrapersOPS on Nov 2, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

here is a video from AT&T park

that showed the type of crowds we Rangers fans encountered leaving the stadium. There were no bonfires on Games 1&2, but the atmosphere was the same

chaos outside AT&T

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Nov 2, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

That is insane

Nothing like that would happen around here if the Rangers won. I feel pretty confident in saying that.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

But that's because there is no shit to tear up in Arlington except prairie wastelands

and strip malls.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Nov 2, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure you can set up a bonfire in the middle of any street

and drive a car through it. Doesn’t have to be a downtown area.

Also, when I said “around here”, I meant DFW.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Nov 2, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent wrapup Adam

I agree; last night several of us were up at a bar, pissed after the 3 run bomb, a little excited after Cruz’ homer, then let down in the end – but we recovered quickly; lit up cigars, and toasted the Rangers’ season. It was productive – I don’t know how many of us would’ve been disappointed if in the preseason we knew we’d end up in the World Series but lose. And for 11 more months, at least, we’re the reigning AL Champions.

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Nov 2, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe my only post ever

Texas should keep Guerrero, maybe find an outfielder to platoon with him at DH, Moreland on 1st base, and Murphy in left field. After all, slumping Vlad drove in 115 runs.

Platoon the Man with Francour, and Francour can play left and 1st too to get his at bats. About 110 games with Vlad as DH, 52 Francour. Francour plays left 40 games, 1st 40 games.

Or get rid of Francour and get a solid lefty bat who can hit as 1st, DH, and left and do the same thing. I don’t think Cantu or Borbon can do it. Davis either.

by dsciswe on Nov 2, 2010 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

If only we had a good cleanup hitter

the second half of the season, we would have seen more RBIs!!!

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Nov 2, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

RBIs.

It’s either a good thing or a bad thing if this is your last post ever.

by philkid3 on Nov 3, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

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