Josh Hamilton Named A.L. MVP
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 23, 2010 1:20 PM CST
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PrintHamilton picked up 22 of 28 first place votes, with second place finisher Miguel Cabrera picking up 5 first place votes, and Jose Bautista, who finished 4th, getting 1 first place vote. Robinson Cano finished in third place.
Paul Konerko finished 5th, Evan Longoria 6th, and Carl Crawford 7th in the balloting.
The only other Ranger to be named on a ballot was Vladimir Guerrero, who got two 7th place votes, one 8th place vote, four 9th place votes, and three 10th place votes.
Oddly enough, the highest ranked pitcher was Rafael Soriano, with C.C. Sabathia finishing right behind him. Felix Hernandez was the only other pitcher to receive votes, and finished well behind Soriano and Sabathia.
UPDATE -- Correction of the above -- Joakim Soria also received a vote.
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This is your first comment on this site, so seeing as how you have no foundation, i'm gonna need a good reason
by oc on Nov 23, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
you're doing your anger management wrong
by ab03 on Nov 23, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I found this extremely funny
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
all he gets is jokes?
Wah.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone called a nincompoop on this board
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
what about a "mooncalf"?
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
Brigadoon
Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.
by WildcatPhoenix on Nov 23, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hang back and watch for a while.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
BANDWAGONER JUMP HIM
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
by RangersSD on Nov 23, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
/JeffWooWoo
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
No it's Chloe!
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Chloe gives Bloe
There, that’ll stick in your mind.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
WOW
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Delmon Young got a 4th place vote
scottrlucas Depending on source/methodology, Delmon Young’s WAR ranked 11th, 12th, or 17th. That’s just on the Twins, not the American League.
It was from Evan Grant.
My ballot: Hamilton, Cabrera, Cano, Konerko, Crawford, Delmon Young, Jose Bautista, Adrian Beltre, Vlad, Rafael Soriano.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I'm reading that as sixth
Which is still silly, but two less silly than four.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Josh's reaction to Grants Ballot
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
by lamron on Nov 23, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
He reminds me of someone else in this pic
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Wash?
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Jeter
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Nov 23, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Past a diving Jeter!
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
For a split second, I was sure that was Jeter
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Nov 23, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Si.
It’s the eyes and weird way the hat is worn.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 23, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Bobby Flay?
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
I've thought that for a while
And Chuckie G looks like Glenn Frey of the Eagles.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
funny
I’ve never put that together.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
x
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Christ
I thought those were bees at first…
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
Josh is so hardass he eats live bees.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Nov 23, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
Wrecked like a muthafucker…
Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.
by WildcatPhoenix on Nov 23, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Reminds me of "The Green Mile"
where John Coffey expels the sickness to Percy the prison guard
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Maybe he voted for "Young"
and didn’t realize it wasn’t Michael.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
wow.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In Evan's defense...
Young was VERY clutchy this year. .355/.379/.533 with runners in scoring position. 4th in league in win probability added, 14th in situational wins. That’s worth something. Not a 6th-place vote, in my opinion, but something.
"Most of Jesus’s parables were economic parables, and they were free-market parables." -- Andrew Schlafly
It might just be
giving a player a low vote he thought deserved some recognition.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Young kept Minn in first for 2 months (figuratively)
I doubt very seriously Minnesota wins the division without him. Does he deserve MVP status? No, but he carried that team which lost Mauer or Morneau for extended periods. It ain’t as crazy as it seems.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
So give Murphy a vote?
He was great for 2 months.
by Judy'sLewinsky on Nov 23, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think that is fair
Murphy was great for two months but the Rangers win the division anyways.
Delmon Young was solid exactly when the Twins needed him and they probably would have been caught if not for his outburst (and Danny Valencia as well). Everyone around here, I live in Minnesota, was raving about Delmon Young for the better part of the year. The Twins needed him sorely and he produced. His numbers really fell off at the end of the season when the Twins were pretty comfortably on top.
yay
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
It is kinda creepy.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Completely on board with this selection.
He’s quite simply the most aesthetically pleasing player to watch I’ve ever seen on an every day basis.
I can imagine that only Bonds, Morgan, Griffey Jr, Mays and Aaron were as good or better to watch every day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Took the words out of my mouth.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Mick had the speed and power but not sure
about him defensively.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
didn't he blow out his knee
during his rookie season?
To Cobb, Rickey Henderson...
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
you obviously never saw
Michael Jack Schmidt.
The man was class, an absolute joy to watch in the field, and a very tough out, who punished mistakes.
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
I didn't see him every day but I saw him and he was great.
All the players I mentioned played OF and that’s where their athleticism was on full display.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Lets just say
that Schmidts defense was the Anti-Young.
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Sportspickle tweet:
Josh Hamilton is AL MVP. Vick is on the cover of SI. Take note, kids: really, really, REALLY screw up. Then … PROFIT!
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Nov 23, 2010 1:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yes
If only somebody would shame Vick or Hamilton. They’ve definitely gotten off easy in the court of public opinion.
by brettgardner on Nov 23, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say Hamilton has gotten off easy
of course, he didn’t serve a prison sentence
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Hamilton hurt himself and his family as a result
As far as I’m concerned, if his family has forgiven him, why should the public feel differently?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Agree in a big way
they both screwed up big time, but the way in which they accomplished this is massively different, and that changes the perception of the situation
Josey Wales is stupid
No way
Hamilton had to work like a dog to get back to where he was.
He has a good support system, sure, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have to work a ton
I'm not saying he didn't have to work hard
and get forgiveness from his family and friends etc. I’m responding about the public opinion, in which, he has been held up as a role model. The court of public opinion has been generous with Hamilton.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
yeah
but only because the first real exposure the court had to hamilton was the story of redemption. He already had some sobriety skins on the wall when he was introduced to the public and he really seemed like he was owning his problems from the past and working through them.
I don’t think Hamilton was getting any favors.
Well when you preach to kids
to stay off of drugs and not repeat your mistakes that nearly destroyed your life, you tend to be looked at as a role model. Ever see a public speaker talk to an elementary or middle school who didn’t go through some issues at one point in their life?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Hamilton may deserve it
with what he is doing with his life, but he shouldn’t be lumped in the same “court of public opinion” discussion with Vick
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
No argument there
What Vick did was horrible and I doubt he is truly reformed past the point of he won’t be doing that shit again.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Really?
I would bet a lot of money that he will never run a dog fighting industry again. Seems like something pretty easily left behind, as opposed to crack, which is kind of hard to leave behind
Well I said I don't think he'll ever run a dog fighting ring again
But do you think that getting caught and going to jail really changed his opinion completely on that? Its hard for me to believe that he could do something like that for as long as he did and just now realize the error of his ways.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I don't think he thought dog fighting was a big deal
he knew it was illegal but I don’t think he really gave a shit about animals enough to think it was cruel in the way the vast majority of people do. And I do think that point hit home for him after going to jail for it and doing so many of those PSA’s and work with the SPCA.
We can never know for sure
but I don’t think most people change just like that. Maybe I’m wrong though.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
ever seen ANYBODY that didn't go through some issues at one point in their life?
we’re all hypocrites at times…but I still really, REALLY don’t like Mike Vick
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
I can honestly say
that i’ve never done Crack. I’ve never done cocaine, speed, meth, heroin, pcp, or any of that crap.
never been arrested for anything other than failure to appear notices associated with traffic stops (yes, i was stupid at some point).
Never put anyone in the hospital, or killed anyone in a fight.
Never fired for cause. Never even failed to get a good recommendation from a previous employer.
I guess much of that is to come….
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Jackanape doesn't respect you, then.
by AsDevilsRun on Nov 23, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How could he?
iblum has no perspective.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
hahahahah
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN A GANG FIGHT?
THEN WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THE AUDACITY TO SIT THERE AND CRITICIZE JOE MORGAN?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 24, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
what a boring, miserable life
I keed, I keed – props to you, sir – you’re a better man than I
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
welll...
I wouldn’t call it boring… most of my sexual escapades I can’t mention here. or pretty much anywhere.
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
I don't have to.
no desire to do any of those things.
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Just becasue you don't desire something to happen,
doesn’t mean it can’t at some point iblum.
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
About the only thing
above that can happen without my consent is being arrested.
I guess someone could spike my diet soda with PCP or LSD. (which I’ve never done either. nor peyote or any other hallucenagen)
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
you're missing out.
There’s nothing funner than smoking some PCP with your buddies and seeing who can throw a microwave the furthest.
I'm still here, Sager.
by JimCrankshaft on Nov 23, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
So, you think the court of public opinion has given him a pass?
Geez, the guy seems as bout as nice of a player/person as there is around. And he is held in high esteem by his teammates, and I dont think that is just because he is good.. It seems like you are taking a shot at him for some reason. Vick is a dog killer, not a capital offense, but a felony none-the-less. I am so meh on Vick’s success.
The public approbation
is partly for how hard he’s worked to get back and stay clean. He’s not a role model for me (I prefer people who didn’t eff up so bad in the first place) but I still rooted for him ever since his rule 5 selection to make it back.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
no
Vick had to fight like a dog
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Hardly any paws in thinking his experience
gave him a new leash on life…
Gotta lift my leg in salute to him.
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
I'm honestly not sure how much he's had to work
I think a lot – he certainly got a lot better at playing QB than before. I assume he also has to do a lot of community service, although he apparently still hangs out with his old crew.
Anyway, don’t really know
Sorry I should have clarified,
The sportspickle is supposed to be a sports comedy deal that tweets funny, yet non-serious things. Lighten up people… Example:
Eli Manning is similar to Mike Vick in that he once got sent to timeout for having his stuffed animals fight.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Nov 23, 2010 1:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
funny, yet non-serious
That’s a hard combo to pull off.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 23, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yes it is...
only to be attempted by professionals.
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
professionals, yet non-amateurs
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
It also helps to be the most naturally gifted athlete of your generation in your sport of choice
by Sherman McCoy on Nov 23, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
but also have had adversity along the way
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Great job this year Hammy.
I’m really hoping Wash intends on keeping you out of CF from now on so we can watch you play all year.
Is Hamilton making a "problem?" face in that photograph?
woot!
by RyanBlueThunder on Nov 23, 2010 1:28 PM CST reply actions
Looks like the face you would make right after you said
“oops I shit my pants”
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Nov 23, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
BOOM
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
by RangersSD on Nov 23, 2010 1:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Celebrate
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
by lamron on Nov 23, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I haven't seen this one before!
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
The Texas Rangers clinch their first ever World Series birth...
…and their home park is promptley demolished by a series of cataclysmic explosions.
congrats Hambone
It was a whole lotta fun to watch you do what you do this season.
She's a skank
There I said it
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
id bone her
/when she turns legal
by I am Neftali Feliz on Nov 23, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Bone up.
She’s 18 today
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
So, when I was looking at her side-boob pics a few days ago it was wrong?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yes, yes it is.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Yes, yes it is.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
That takes all the fun out of the pears.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
According to a map on wikipedia
it’s 16 there.
This map is freaking me out a little bit. The map’s color legend goes down to the age of 9.
It could be a second through fourth wife?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 23, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
oh.. I'll just google wikipedia
it’s probably right on the front page
by kevinkinsler on Nov 23, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
You could search for the subject matter
It’s really quite simple. They even have a “search box” just for it.
"when is she old enough"
actually worked…who knew
by kevinkinsler on Nov 23, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
I can picture you saying it as you type it
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, that's funny cause I did
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Miley Cyrus
The first time I heard about her, it made me think, “Jesus, Bill Hicks WAS right- there was a woman out there willing to let that no-talent cracker asshole drop his filthy seed in her womb.”
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
God Bless Bill Hicks
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
he'd punch you if he heard that.
I'm still here, Sager.
by JimCrankshaft on Nov 23, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
cano trending does let you find fun comments like this:
“Cano got robbed, he played in 160 games while Hamilton missed 25. JH’s avg & slugging wouldn’t have been as high without missing 25 games "
Hamilton's slugging percentage would drop 100 points?
and his BA 40 points? Yeah, probably if he played with broken ribs, crutches and pair of bad spectacles for those 25 games.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Well, well. They got it right.
Congrats, Josh. You earned this.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Well done writers. Well done Hamilton. I definitively approve.
Yay
Nothing like winning two of the three postseason awards that matter (sorry Wash, MOY is meaningless)
By the way, the Rangers absolutely own the MVP award. 5 awards in the last 15 years?
Go Rice Owls!
Hamilton, A-Rod, Pudge, Juan and...?
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Juan won twice
is what I’m thinking he’s referring to.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
makes sense
5 MVP wins, not winners
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck it dude
Lets go bowling.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
So, if a multi-year deal was necessary to bring in a DH, do you feel more comfortable with
Vlad or Mags?
Godspeed Mike Olt.
tough choice
both may be on their last legs.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
He was actually almost as valuable than Vlad in '10, 2.6 to 2.5 WAR, in just 84 games.
And this from fg:
Not a single team put up a better mark than Ordonez’s .375 wOBA, and only the Orioles (Luke Scott), Red Sox (David Ortiz), Twins (Jim Thome), and Rangers (Vladimir Guerrero) equaled or bettered Ordonez’s +21 run offensive projection from CHONE.
Plus, while he is not good in the OF any longer, he sucks wayyyyy worse than Vlad. I am kind of getting on board with bringing him in, and he costs no draft pick.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I like the idea
cost? Years?
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
1 w/option?
Maybe 5mil?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Really surprised Vlad got so many votes
considering how wretched his second half was.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 23, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions
This sucks, now it's just going to cost the Rangers more to sign him to a longterm deal.
/LSJ
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
STFU DIAF EABOD
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Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
by RangersSD on Nov 23, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You were such a hippe back in the day LAMF.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Is it weird that
my first thought with this is yay… and the second one is holy shit $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"Hey Sanka, you can pee now... uuummm, too late...."
This used to be links to my websites... But the man got in the way, shut them all down... Damn the man...
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by FormerLSBUser on Nov 23, 2010 2:01 PM CST reply actions
No lol but I hope he gets it..
Considering all he’s been thru and the $$$ he’s missed over the years, this is his last chance to cash in. You hear this about other athletes but they’ve made their money and are just trying to get blood from a stone with Hambone I honestly cant blame him.
But the Rangers and Hambone seem to be a perfect fit, I think we’ll sign him longterm and wont break the bank in the process.
I know I know...
Just saying the man is going to get paid one way or another, just hope and believe its going to be with the Rangers. Wont be Cliff Lee money, but I don’t think I’m turning in my Rangers fan card for being glad that a great player who honestly seems to be a great person is finally seeing the fruits of his labor so to speak.
So lets see
Win the AL West – Check
Win more than one playoff game – Check
Win a playoff series – Check
Go to the World Series!!!!! – Check
Win a World Series game – Check
Win World Series – ____
Rookie of the Year – Check
Cy Young – ____ (but Lee got some votes!)
MVP – Check
Yeah, I’d say 2010 was a pretty good year.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Nov 23, 2010 2:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
NEW OWNER
CCCCCHHHHHHEEEEECCCCKKKKKK
by Doc Mabee on Nov 23, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Dont ya mean
CCCCCHHHHHHUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK
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by FormerDriller on Nov 23, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
don't forget:
Redemption vs. Yankees – CHECK
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Alright Hambony
I got some pocket change for ya
4 Years, $45 million
2011: $7 million
2012: $10 million
2013: $13 million
2014: $15 million ($3 million dollar buyout, mutual option)
"Hey Sanka, you can pee now... uuummm, too late...."
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by FormerLSBUser on Nov 23, 2010 2:23 PM CST reply actions
I don't think that gets it done
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
nope
maybe $52 for 4 years but i doubt that as well
VMart win any MVP's
Yeah I didn’t think so. 4/52 is punk money. Hambone gets Iphone money.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
VMart was a free agent
Hambone is under control for two more years, he would have to give a little in annual salary to get some security
and I think he'll get more than $7M
in arbitration for 2011, why take less in a long term deal?
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
So...4 years $60 mil?
an average of $15 mil per year still sounds soooooo cheap to me
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
who knows, we are all guessing
but I presonally would try to lock him in for 5-6 years at a lower annual salary..something like $72 for six years. $12, $13, $14, $12, $11, $10 million in years 1-6 respectively.
I can't see him going backwards the last 3 years unless I'm reading it wrong.
My guess is he won’t sign a thing unless it blows his socks off. He will only get one chance for the big payday due to his delays. The FO would have to overwhelm him to sign. I’m thinking 4/60 like Walter said might get it done.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
Seems like that would be hard to turn down.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 23, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Good for Josh.
Heck of a season.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
This can't possibly be true
An industry source told Yahoo’s Tim Brown yesterday that the Yankees offered Cliff Lee “nearly $140MM over six years, but Lee continues to hold out for a seventh year.”
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/yankees-offer-six-years-nearly-140mm-to-cliff-lee.html
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
My guess
6 years, $138 million.
Same annual amount they are paying Sabathia.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 23, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
so do the Rangers match?
Can they afford not to?
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
by Baseball North on Nov 23, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Apparently we're broke again per TR Sullivan
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
There is your problem "according to TR"
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
I love me some Cliff Lee
But there is no way I want him for more than 6/120 and even that is pushing it for me.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
what about the "window"
Take Lee as great for 2 years, good for 2, and mediocre for 2. This still allows for a real chance at the title for 3-4 years with the likes of Perez and Feliz set to make an impact in the rotation from 2012-2014
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
by Baseball North on Nov 23, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
That is a nice window
but there is also a window that doesn’t involve Cliff Lee that pretty much everyone knew existed before this last season started and before Lee was acquired.
This team doesn’t have to have Cliff Lee to win. They won the division essentially without him this year. He was a great asset in the playoffs; and clearly he’d be awesome to have. But the team doesn’t NEED Cliff Lee.
Go Rice Owls!
right, but a non-Cliff Lee team is still relying on hope
hope that Perez, Feliz, Holland, and the Erlins can become FOTR type pitchers in the time that the CJ, Lewis and the offensive core are still intact.
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
by Baseball North on Nov 23, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
certainly
but a just-signed-Cliff Lee-for-7/140 team is relying on hope that no major pieces need replacing, because there won’t be any money in the piggy bank for a long, long time with that type of deal. There is hope involved no matter what happens.
I think people are forgetting that there are significant risks involved with signing Lee as well. Cliff Lee probably reduces uncertainty if he signs for something like 4/95. He increases uncertainly, dramatically so in 2015-2017, if he’s signed to a longer term or larger deal.
Go Rice Owls!
Every team relies on hope in some way.
And it’s not like a Rangers team without Cliff Lee is a longshot.
So I’m not sure what your point is.
the common meme starting up now
is that the Rangers minus Cliff Lee would have won zero playoff games and would have been lucky to escape the season with the division.
It is time for someone to remind fans that CJ and Colby were and still are very very good pitchers…
Go Rice Owls!
while I agree
I’d be much more comfortable – as I’m sure we all would – with Lee/Lewis/Wilson penciled in for at least the next 2 years. But I’m just not so sure what these final numbers will look like.
How long until Lee HAS to make a decision? And how long until he likely does?
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
The decline phase for an athlete
is rarely so smooth.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 23, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
They will match
Its no surprise that the Yankees offered him around 23 million a year. The real question comes in whether or not the Yankees will give him that 7th year.
by Monkey Brain on Nov 23, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
I see no way anyone offering a 7th year, even the NY morons
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
by Baseball North on Nov 23, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
For that much, all I have to say is "Have fun in NY, Mrs. Lee"
and “I hope you forever suck in the playoffs, Cliff”
Go Rice Owls!
Betcha million bucks Lee is in some tree stand on Magazine Mtn with his feet kicked up and the bill of his cap covering his eyes
He dozes off as he listens to the birds chirp in the distance, a loaded shotgun rests at his side.
He is so far away from all this nonsense. His agent is the only one talking here
by oc on Nov 23, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Stockpile his 78 RC.
Will only go up in value.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
If the choice was mine I wouldve hired the Fonze
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
The problem with getting picture-happy with your posts is that some of them end up sucking balls
by oc on Nov 23, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Arent you missing an anger management class?
Leave those of us procrastinating at work alone
"I was brought up in Florida, so there isn't much difference between playing there and playing here. The climax are about the same."
-Mickey Rivers on playing in Texas
You are a roll today
The more I see it, the funnier it gets.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
...but what kind of roll is the question?
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Hoagie
Yum.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I prefer Torpedo Rolls and shrimp tempura rolls.
Shit, you got me thinking sushi.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
Are you crazy?
This is like the stupidest, most childish bit
by oc on Nov 23, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
Actually the stupidest bit
is your dumb, stoned ass trying to play board cop.
Sit down and shut up.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Nov 23, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
too soon
He died 10/19/10
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Market inefficiency?
Suck it, Beane.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Nov 23, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
he really raked during his stint as a Ranger....
on another note, it’s pretty sweet he is a funk group with Lenny Randle called Ballplayers..
If Thad mouth's off
Do you think Lenny puts him in a choke hold and knocks him unconscious?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
only if Thad is hanging out with Frank Lucchesi and they decide to add Bump Wills
to the coaching staff
x
Evan_P_Grant Evan Grant
To those unfamiliar: Bosley was on staff w/Washington in Oakland. In “Moneyball,” they are featured disagreeing with Moneyball philosophy.
Wash can pick his own guys now evidently.
Also, what was Bosley doing between 2002 when he was fired as the A’s hitting coach and 2010?
by LiamP on Nov 23, 2010 2:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The HC of Southwestern College last year
Nothing from 03-09 it looks like
by Judy'sLewinsky on Nov 23, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think he also coached some with the USA National Team
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Ryan knows him too.
They played together in parts of 3 seasons.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
what's his track record look like?
any prominent pitchers he’s had a hand in channeling?
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
excuse me
HITTERS
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
so what is Thad Bosley's record like
as a hitting coach?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
sounds like a home run to me.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
is he british
did he coach rounders?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
His wikipedia doesn't really show much
except that he just took a job as head coach of a college baseball team. Hadn’t even coached a game there.
A's hitting coach 2000-2003, their playoff years
Their Runs Scored declined every year he was there
2000:974
2001:884
2002:800
2003: 768
sounds promising
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hit and miss
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Nov 23, 2010 3:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes they hit the ball...sometimes they wouldn't hit the ball.
Sometimes the ball come right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a ball is she’s got lifeless seams. Red seams. Like a doll’s seams. When she comes at ya, she doesn’t even seem to be livin…till she hits ya, and those red seams roll over white. Then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The plate turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those other players come in and… they rip you to pieces. Anyway, we delivered the go-ahead run.
by Giant Space Ants on Nov 23, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats to Hammy
Glad to see the voting was not even all that close, good for him!
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
ya, that surprised me
If Hamilton won, I thought it would be by barely edging out Cano
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
by Baseball North on Nov 23, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yep i figured it would be close with Cano being second
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
but wasn't he better across the board?
even with missing time?
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I agree, but those who vote sometimes have a bias for Yankees
or east coast teams, to me Josh was the only choice. but i tend to have a Rangers bias
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
cool for Josh
and that’s better news than the $1 million or whatever it was that Felix got for Cy Young
Go Rice Owls!
Looks like Johnny Narron's going out celebrating tonight!
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Nov 23, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah a nice steak at Applebee's
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
well i do think it's close
his hair is light brown teetering on some red in there. plus it’s curly like pubes.
he most definitely has the mass freckling on his arms.
and like the poster above pointed out the bobby flay comparison, flay might be a tad more genuine ginger but they def share the same “in-between” look, imo.
Shooter Mcgavin
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
from upton’s agent. RT @RSMupdates Contrary to reports, the Seattle Mariners are NOT on Justin Upton’s No Trade List.
How hard is it to get the team names right on a list?
They’re either on there or not.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
This lists are not supposed to be public, that's how.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
He forgot to bring his Aides.
Everyone at Subway has aides.
by Giant Space Ants on Nov 23, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Thinking of Hamilton
scoring from 2nd base on Vlads infield hit may go down as my most favorite play ever. The guy had Bo Jackson speed that game.
That game was probably the best non-post season game of the year
Hamilton’s two great defensive plays, home run, daring base running, and 4 hits were off the charts. And it ended with a Cruz missile.
can’t go wrong there.
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Damn that's right, forgot about the other stuff.
That was an awesome game all around for that guy.
by lost in space on Nov 23, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Whoop
Josh is one of my favorites – if you go to a game near LF, he definitely talks to the fans before innings; class act – hell of a year – hell of a player
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
again
just vote for the MVP only…2-10 or whatever it is just doesn’t make sense. seems like it’s there for unnecessary controversy.
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
No.
List balloting is vastly superior.
It maybe doesn’t have to be 10, but that’s not a big deal. It just wastes voters’ time.
I love this one.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Opulence
Josh has it.
Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.
Brian Kenny is on the radio arguing the writers didn't look deep enough in the MVP balloting and that's why they went with Hamilton.
Saying they look at the wrong stats.
He says he has sabermetrics on his side and would vote for Cano. The deepest he went was OPS and home/road splits.
Yup.
Some "sabermetrics"
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Somebody should at least introduce him to WAR.
Then he might not have gone on the air and made an ass of himself.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
He let people call in.
I wanted to desperately, but I was stuck in a snow storm with a dead phone. I’m angry none of you did.
His callers were: a guy who said Sabathia because “you throw all those stats out the window” and if you take him out of the rotation the Yankees don’t make the playoffs; a guy who said Cano and gave no reason; a guy who said Hamilton because he’s a rah rah leader who helped the team through bankruptcy; and a guy who said Hamilton because his team made the playoffs.
Why would I call into a show I don't listen to?
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Josh knows where his strength comes from
“I think about those times, and how God brought me through that and has sustained me. And it’s awesome.”
“The key I want to get across is that I couldn’t do it on my own. With God, all things are possible.”
Personally, I don't care
if he acknowledges the Flying Spaghetti Monster, as long as he plays well.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Praise the Lord, brother 4Him.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Then you don't know me very well.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Things you think about while trying to fall back asleep at 3:30 am
Here is how the voting went, top 10, fgWAR rankings in parathesis:
1. (1) 8.0 Josh Hamilton, Texas
2. (6) 6.2 Miguel Cabrera, Detroit
3. (4) 6.4 Robinson Cano, New York
4. (T3) 6.9 Jose Bautista, Toronto
5. (11) 4.2 Paul Konerko, Chicago
6. (T3) 6.9 Evan Longoria, Tampa Bay
7. (T3) 6.9 Carl Crawford, Tampa Bay
8. (8) 5.1 Joe Mauer, Minnesota
9. (2) 7.1 Adrian Beltre, Boston
10. (30+) 2.1 Delmon Young, Minnesota
Cliff Pennington 3.7, Billy Butler 3.4, Luke Scott 3.1…yeah, those are the more obscure players who blew away Delmon, sheesh.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
BR war looks differently
1. (6) 6.0 Josh Hamilton, Texas
2. (3) 6.9 Miguel Cabrera, Detroit
3. (T4) 6.1 Robinson Cano, New York
4. (T7) 5.6 Jose Bautista, Toronto
5. (10) 5.0 Paul Konerko, Chicago
6. (1) 7.7 Evan Longoria, Tampa Bay
7. (>10) 4.8 Carl Crawford, Tampa Bay
8. (T7) 5.6 Joe Mauer, Minnesota
9. (T4) 6.1 Adrian Beltre, Boston
10. (>10) 0.8 Delmon Young, Minnesota (Total Zone REALLY doesn’t like his defense. )
TZ doesn’t like Josh’s either, especially in left field.
Choo (2, 7.3) finished 14th. Not mentioned, but Vlad Guerrero finished 11th!!!!! I just though he got some token votes, but damn….
LSJ (on Dallas Braden): I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Braden's grandmother: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Yeah, they touched on this briefly at fg
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/substituting-drs-for-uzr-in-war/
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
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