Friday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 9:03 AM CST
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Jayson Stark has a piece on five teams that have money to spend, and the Rangers are listed as one of them, with Stark saying that the Rangers are expected to make a run at Carl Crawford and Zack Greinke once Cliff Lee signs with the Yankees.
And that's about it this morning.
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I am starting to get the feeling that Lee is a Yankee no matter what we do or offer.
I want to punch Freddy Sanchez in his stupid face.
I understand that MFY's have boats of money and if I was forced to predict, I would pick the Lee's destination as the Yankees, but damn if I'm not sick and tired of listening to how the Rangers have no chance to sign Lee.
Does all the MSM think the only team any player wants to play is the MFY? Seriously, the Ranges have a legit chance to sign the player, the juice boxes of writers just want to ignore the fact. Fucking Juice Boxes!!!
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
Im at the point where I just want to get it over with..
I mean if all we hear is true the union will force him to sign etc and if the offers aren’t close then yeah he’s a Yankee. But its annoying that offers haven’t even been made yet and he’s already being fit for pinstripes in like 99% of reports. I truly believe he loved playing here and he knows our future is bright. Of course there are other factors but not counting us out till its official. I just want the Rangers to give their best offer and not make it a cake walk for the Yankees if he destined for NY(insert eye roll).
If the Yanks blow away any offer from us, then its easy for me to see why Cliff would go to NY. If we come close then I might start to see all of this in a different light. I know the man has the right to go anywhere he wants but I cant help but to feel that if the price is right, here is where he should be playing. Many fans would rightfully feel abandoned.
yeah same here, tired of the wait and see
let’s get something done one way or the other, so that we can get on with the other Free Agents
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
Yeah I just want us to do....something, anything...
We know Cliff is their numero uno target but they do have other needs, I certainly don’t believe that a CL signing should be contingent on us say getting a catcher or a DH. Go about your business showing Cliff look we want to win with you but we’re prepared to do it without you if it comes to that.
If it means Josh in CF full time then not good
by Judy'sLewinsky on Nov 26, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
We need to install hefty bag walls from the Metrodome in CF for Josh.
I want to punch Freddy Sanchez in his stupid face.
If we sign Carl then I imagine it's with the idea of rotating
Hammy/Cruz/Murph/Mikey through the DH spot… Breakdown something like this-
LF: Carl 150 Josh 12 games
CF: Josh 100 Carl 10 Julio 52
RF: Cruz 120 Murph 42
DH Josh 48 Cruz 40 Murph 60 Mikey/anyone else 12
That has all of the key players at 160 game with murph getting 102 and Julio 52… But realistically Cruz/Hamilton/Crawford are not going to play 160 games, so any injuries(let’s say they miss a combined 60 games?) goes to Murph and Julio so we can get Murph to 140 and Julio to 74 games. That’s a pretty solid breakdown in my opinion and gives us a whole lot of flexibility as well as Josh and Cruz a lot of time out of the field and in the DH spot. This would also allow us to possibly include murph or borbon in a trade for a pitcher (greinke?) and then we just have to sign or call up a 5th outfielder to fill in for whoever we traded. I am a big fan of the flexibility this gives us as well as how much it would hurt the Angels by keeping Carl out of their hands. Sign me up.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Nov 26, 2010 9:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Except
Crawford, Murphy, Borbon, and Hamilton are all lefties, which presents a problem.
I think, if you sign Crawford, you are committing to Hamilton in CF for the next couple of years and trading Borbon.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
That leaves you with
Your catcher(whoever that may be), Elvis, MY, Ian, and Cruz as righties. 5 out of the 9 in the lineup does not seem like much of a problem to me? You could switch it up some but I would roll with this:
Crawford L
Ian R
Josh L
Cruz R
MY R
Murph L
Mitch L
Catcher R
Elvis R
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Nov 26, 2010 9:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
No
We’ve got 2 elite and an above-average corner outfielder. Unless we’re trading Josh for Jon Lester (pipe dream) this makes no sense. Especially not at 100M+.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Since he doesn't want to play CF, and probably wouldn't be nearly as valuable defensively if he did
I just don’t see how he fits here, unless the thought process is to trade one of Cruz or Hamilton for Grink.
No
The Rangers desperately need a C, 1b, 3b or DH, and could really use another starting pitcher.
Crawford doesn’t fit on that list
Go Rice Owls!
Crawford could basically fill the DH hole somewhat
You could rotate Hamilton, Cruz, and Crawford through the corner outfield spots and DH. In the playoffs, you could start Hamilton in CF and then use Murphy/Righty at DH.
I’m just wondering if this regular season lineup has enough power:
SS Andrus
LF Crawford
2b Kinsler
DH Hamilton
RF Cruz
3b Young
1b Moreland
C Trampoline
CF Borbon
I did see that.
The team has a lot of faith in Alex Avila. That combo could work out really well for them.
You thought MY's contract was bad
And believe it or not, the Angels still have to pay Gary Matthews Jr. 11 million of Arte Moreno’s precious dollars next year, too.
That's the funniest thing I've read this morning
What a bunch of dumbasses
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Nov 26, 2010 9:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
that is "WKRP Turkey drop’ funny
Everyone relax...
…en route to the in-laws we drove through Benton, AR….rolled the window down and yelled “SIGN WITH TEXAS, CLIFF!!”
It’s gonna happen…promise….
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Also
Olney said that rival GMs believe that Texas will most likely get Grienke.
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
A rotation of Lee and Greinke
as the 1-2 would be awesome. Anyone else worried about Greinke fronting a playoff contending rotation?
The way we baby our guys and their psyches?
This is probably the ideal place for him to front a playoff rotation.
I don't understand what you are saying
How do the Rangers baby their pitchers?
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
You know very well what I'm talking about. They work very, very hard on their "clubhouse enviroment" and keeping the players happy.
It’s probably the sole reason Ron Washington still has a job.
And that might actually be useful, where someone like Grienke is concerned.
Well, there's that
And then there’s the fact that Wash JUST WON THE FUCKING AL PENNANT. You think that might have just a little something to do with him getting a contract extension?
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
by RCCook on Nov 26, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You gotta give credit to Old School Brutha for
the way this team carried itself (very loose and aggressive) in the post-season, especially in the first two rounds.
That said, I’m a little surprised he only received a 2-year extension.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
by Josey Wales on Nov 26, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno
This team almost coughed it all up in the ALDS after going up 2-0, which, thanks to Cliff Lee, we get to kinda gloss over.
I credit the pitching for allowing us to play loose and aggressive for most of the postseason, myself. A lot easier to take chances and play your game when the opposition isn’t scoring anything.
Yeah, yeah, we know...
The Rangers would win more games with some random person pulled off the street as the manager than with Ron Washington.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
If you pull a guy off the street who knows how to use Fangraphs, prolly.
And as I’ve maintained for awhile now, I think that’s true of 90% of managers in baseball.
Managers are like the appendixes of a baseball team.
by LSJ on Nov 26, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Complete bullshit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
by Josey Wales on Nov 26, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board
This is worse than Sharky’s football opinions.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
How?
Exactly what tangible thing does a manager do that, say, Dave Cameron couldn’t?
I’m talking about tangible shit that actually impacts the team’s play, not massaging egos and shit like that. If you need a guy to play PR man and be the “good guy” with the players, nothing is in the way of such a position being created.
But what do managers actually manage, that somebody like Cameron couldn’t?
See Buck Showalter in Baltimore this year or
Jim Tracey in Colorado circa 2009.
There are some things in baseball that Math Dorks can’t explaiin with a formula and the impact of certain managers is one of them.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
by Josey Wales on Nov 26, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Your assumption is that...
…the manager’s job is wholly about filling out lineup cards and deciding when to bunt and when to pinch hit.
You probably think all a g.m. does is evaluate players and talk on the phone about potential trades.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
No, that's not my assumption.
I realize you have to have someone who deals with the troops as well.
My point is most baseball managers aren’t actually very good at doing those things, and therefore could easily be replaced in the actual managing role by someone who knows that they’re doing.
Doesn’t mean you wouldn’t want to keep guys who are good coaches, like Wash around to deal with the players.
good thing connie mack and joe mccarthy
had fangraphs. god only knows how their careers would have transpired without it….
by Mr. Abe Froman on Nov 26, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
I love you, Jon
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Can we get LSJ as manager?
Although he might talk a few players into offing themselves, so that’s not a good idea.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yeah Greinke couldn't come play here
if that happened.
"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote
I believe LSJ has said...
…the Rangers would be better off with him managing than with Ron Washington.
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 26, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know that I've said me, personally.
Philkid is the guy I’d want, actually.
Philkid can manage, Ron can stay on as the bench coach, eat his sunflower seeds while keeping the players nice and chill, and not fuck up the games.
Folks who say that stuff
have never managed anything in their lives, usually. Most of managing is dealing with people, which I suspect LSJ would be spectacularly bad at.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
could not have said it any better
It’s posts like this that earn the “mother’s basement” stereotype of bloggers. Its just so out of touch with reality.
On the flip side
I think ZG might enjoy not feeling like he’s the entire team. Tell him “go out do your best. If we win great, if not then cj will get em tomorrow.”
by Sherman McCoy on Nov 26, 2010 9:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
I am. I’m not sure how he would handle the pressure. I’d feel better with Lee at the helm and him at the number 2.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
well, the Rangers have the prospects, the need, and the aggressive GM
so that prediction makes sense.
I can’t imagine that they also trade for him if they sign Lee though. And I would hope that they work out an extension with Greinke as part of the deal, which is of course a non-trivial request for the Rangers to make of the Royals.
Go Rice Owls!
Honestly if he gets traded, we'll probably will be first in line..
Seems like we’ve coveted him for so long and we do have the prospects and no way does this team not trade for a TORP or close to it especially if they lose Lee.
funny video
Scroll down and checkout the ‘must see video’
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/morning-jolt/11/26/titans.fisher.young/index.html?eref=sihp
the mavericks used to have a mascot thing like that
and it was the most hilarious thing ever.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Nov 26, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yea
Globetrotter mascot. He’s great
"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League
I wish that sentence in the thread summary said this instead
with Stark saying that the Rangers are expected to make a run at Carl Crawford and Zack Greinke once Cliff Lee signswith the Yankeesa 100 year contract with Texas and a massive earthquake swallows up New Yankee Stadium upon Jeter signing his name on the dotted line of a 10 year, $500M extension..
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
100 year contract?
Talk about albatross come year 97…
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Nov 26, 2010 11:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The Yankee ball hugging
by ESPN is well past old. Look at how it was handled post game on ESPN when we handed the Yanks a trip to the off season.
Not getting the Crawford talk, makes no sense for the Rangers...
We’ve got more pressing issues like pitching, DH, Catcher, poss 1B. CC would be sick with Josh and Nelly in the OF but that’s not happening and certainly not for the inflated price he’s going to command. Plus I hear he doesn’t want to play CF.
OT: Jennifer Aniston in Los Cabos, Mexico...
in anyone wants to go down and hit it.
http://www.tmz.com/
This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.
are you driving?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
sure I'll drop ya off at the hotel, call me when you're done...
ten hours later BigGuns, sits in car waiting…zzzzzzzzzz
This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.
10 hours?!?!?!?
more like 10 seconds, probably.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Gimme 3 minutes.
Maybe even fo.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
/FuturePants
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
must be cold in Cabo
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
I think Jobu/Bucky is there.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Wow, this makes my head hurt
Dombrowski revealed his expectations in a statement: “We expect Victor to be in our lineup on a daily basis, serving primarily as our club’s designated hitter and catching two to three times a week.”
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Should've scrolled down all the way first -- just posted the link to Beck's "tweet" above.
I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am, anyhow.
No really, it's "As expected"
Expected by who???
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I think some were skeptical Detroit would suffer that defense behind the plate so frequently.
This is why I wasn’t a huge fan of Texas trying to trump the Tigers’ offer. I just don’t have a lot of confidence that Martinez will be able to put up big enough numbers in the first two years of that contract to justify it overall. Assuming Martinez catches 50 games or fewer next season, he’s going to have to avoid any sort of offensive fall-off to accrue the sort of value that some anticipated.
We will see…
Pettite?
Wouldn’t he be a good fit here if we couldn’t sign Lee? He has Texas connections and it would be a short commitment. Is it crazy talk to think pettite could be enticed by Nolan and jd to play for the rangers this year? No arbitration and and a relatively good year last year.
by CDorsey on Nov 26, 2010 12:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Garland signed by the Dodgers
No terms revealed yet.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
5 mil w/option year
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
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