Toronto Trades for a draft pick

Smart move by Toronto's new GM. He trades cash for Olivo from Colorado, who was about to decline his option. Colorado saves some cash, as they are now not responsible for his buyout ($500K). Toronto then declines the option, picking up a type B compensation pick for their trouble in a strong draft class.

They might have as many as 8 picks in the top 50 or so selections. Amazing. I am picking Toronto as a wild card dark horse in 2016.

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pretty brilliant way to try to bring in more talent into your organization.

with that division…they have to do exactly what the Rays did…spend every dime they can on young talent. hopefully…unlike the rays…they’ll be able to build on the young players with solid veterans.

by Doc Mabee on Nov 5, 2010 9:26 AM CDT reply actions

This assumes that...

…the Jays offer Olivo arbitration, and he declines it.

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 5, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions

I think that's a safe assumption

someone will be willing to give him 2 years instead of one I’d bet.

My disappointment in this is that I’d hoped Iannetta would be available.

When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.

by t ball on Nov 5, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions

yeah

Generally, I don’t think type B’s are particularly likely to accept arbitration unless they just really don’t have anything to offer on the open market. On average I think free agency should pay more than arbitration, since multiple teams always makes it likely some team will be irrational.

Now, type A’s are different stories

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 5, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions

I haven't looked at this

but if a type B has a higher salary than he really deserves…I’d assume teams won’t offer arbitration for fear of the raise or at most..10% pay cut.

I may be wrong no the numbers…but I see this as the reason.

by Doc Mabee on Nov 5, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Keep in mind

that a team signing a type B doesn’t lose a draft pick. I think he’ll get a two year deal, he’s got plenty left in the tank.

When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.

by t ball on Nov 5, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions

yes...I know this

it’s more about the player and if he believes accepting an arbitration offer (he can only have a 10% pay cut if I remember correctly) will be more worthwhile than the uncertainty of going into free agency where the current market hasn’t played out well the past couple years.

by Doc Mabee on Nov 5, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

If he accepts arb then Toronto has a pretty good C in tow for next year.

Oh the humanity!

by Josh Lile on Nov 5, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah, it's worth the risk

if he accepts they have a good trade candidate, for which, instead of drafting, they can just receive a prospect or two already signed, bonus paid.

When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.

by t ball on Nov 5, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm going to be interested in the number of arbitration offers / accepts this year

Teams are probably salivating at next years draft, so they’ll make offers. But they’re also probably worried about finances and don’t want to lose picks.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 5, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions

Also

Pick inflation is something I really hate about the current draft setup. Say two teams have type B’s. Say Toronto and Detroit with Olivo and Laird.

Now, if Olivo re-signs with Toronto and Laird re-signs with Detroit, neither gets a comp pick. But if they switch – Laird to Toronto and Olivo to Detroit – they both get a comp pick. If they both knew they were going to re-sign these guys, they’d be better off trading them for each other, offering them arb, having them decline, and signing with their old team. Everyone wins. Except the other 28 teams.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Nov 5, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions