Sunday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 7, 2010 9:26 AM CST
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The Rangers are the A.L. Champs, the Cowboys are one of the worst teams in the NFL, and the Longhorns are in last in the Big 12 South. 2010 is...odd.
As of late last night, Cliff Lee can sign with any major league team he chooses. Jeff Wilson writes that the Rangers are ready to go hard after him, and with the best non-Lee starters being Carl Pavano and Jorge de la Rosa, if they don't land Lee, they will likely pass on the other top pitchers.
George King in the NY Post says that while many teams will talk to Cliff Lee, the race for his services will come down to the Yankees and the Rangers.
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2010 is…oddAWESOME.
You can still call me LSJ if you want to.
by -nemo- on Nov 7, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
I'm a Texas ex and a diehard Cowboy fan
And if this is the way it had to be for the Rangers to win the pennant, so be it. In ten years I won’t even remember what the horns or boys did, but I’ll be talking about the Rangers fall 2010 for the rest of my life.
by Sherman McCoy on Nov 7, 2010 10:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
The Rangers didn’t even win a championship.
Lol
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"and to Adam J. Morris and the Lone Star Ball regulars; go fuck yourself."- cmkelly29
by TooLegitToQuit on Nov 7, 2010 11:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You'll remember this, too.
If nothing else it will have been the year that started it all.
by Black Francis on Nov 7, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Sure they won a championship, they won the AL flag and most important of all
They beat the hated yankees and that pretty much made my year, game 6 of the ALCS was the WS (for me anyway) anything they did after that was a bonus., of course i know many of you here do not dislike the Yankees as much as i do, and i can deal with that.
But it was a great year, championship or not.
Quote from Yankees GM about the Texas Rangers Beating them in the 2010 ALCS "They manhandled us," Cashman said. "It was like a steamroller. We couldn't stop them."
Look at you
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
I think this drags on for a bit
The Nationals make a substantial offer, but Cliff rejects it as they’re the Nationals. The Yankees open with 5/110, we offer 6/115, NY offers 6/130, and he ends up signing here for 6/125.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
I don't get why people think the Nationals are a viable option.
He said he wants to pitch for a competitor. The Nationals are a good 2-3 years away from that, with Strasburg being out all of 2011 with Tommy John surgery. I just don’t see how they can make an offer, given where they currently are standing in the NL.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
The only reason they're making an offer is to make themselves feel like a real Major League team
And to make other people think they are.
They know they can’t sign him, and it probably would be pretty pointless for them to do so.
They’re just throwing their hat in the ring as a PR move.
You can still call me LSJ if you want to.
They aren't
but that doesn’t mean he would say, what the hell, I might as well talk to them.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
If it takes 6 years
Let the Yanks have him. I highly doubt years 36-38 will be nearly as effective as he is now. I want him here, but I’m torn by the fact that his contract will very likely be an albatross the last couple years.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Nov 7, 2010 9:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He strikes me as a guy whose skill set will age very well.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!
by ElMerkoMuffley on Nov 7, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
He strikes me as a guy who already has some injury concerns
that may not age very well
Go Rice Owls!
Yup. Back problems aren't something that magically heal and never show up again.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Randy Johnson was having back problems in 1996.
It actually caused him to miss most of the year, but he came back fine. Just saying they’re manageable.
Sure
but he gives you a highly elevated chance to win a world series while you still have a championship-caliber squad around him. While the team’s future is certainly bright, success cannot be taken for granted. If we’ve got a window, it must be seized.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Yep
It’s kind of tough to wrap your brain around, because we as fans have kind of been in rebuilding mode since the Mark Teixeira trade, but signing Cliff Lee is a win-now move for our window with this current squad over the next 3-4 years.
The last two potential albatross years of his contract might turn out to be slightly annoying 4 years from now, but I’ve kinda come around on the fact that the previous 3-4 years will probably have made it worth it. Furthermore, if we can carry Michael Young’s contract around while almost going bankrupt and go to the fucking world series, I’d like to think we’ll be able handle a couple albatross years at the end of a Cliff Lee deal.
You can still call me LSJ if you want to.
Yeah
and if his late years are underwhelming, they’ll be underwhelming in a Derek Lowe kind of way, where he’s still a viable #2 or a good #3 starter.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
I don't know if they carried that contract, the certainly OLey'd the hell out of it.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Most of the core
LSB members have been in rebuilding mode for most of the last decade. It is odd to think that the window is now open, and the priority really needs to be win now, rather than talent development.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yes on win-now.
Our window of opportunity is wide-open to win a title next year.
I kicked around the possibility of trading Cruz for a Rasmus or Kemp (mid 20 studs that are missing in our organization) earlier but he’s too freaking good.
I’m looking to add this off-season and then reassess where we are after 2011.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Also
Kemp’s not really a centerfielder. He’s ridiculously terrible there.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
I think a major priority needs to be acquiring a RH hitting CF
who can play 100 games of good defense without killing you when he’s in the line-up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Forgive me here, but aren't most center fielders, left handed?
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
I don't know about "most" but there are
several LH CFs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
It seems like a lot of the good ones are at least.
Or the ones I’ve been exposed to are.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
It's pretty well dispersed.
I really like Drew Stubbs. He Ks too much, and the Reds probably aren’t looking to dump him, but I’d like to have him.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Don't really know the player because he's in the NL
but I like his stats.
Jeeeez, the Reds are stacked with some high impact young studs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
He was really good at UT,
it would drive me made how much Garrido would bunt him. But that’s Augie’s M.O.
He’s got good pop, and can fly.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Ron Washington at the college leve?
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Augie makes Wash look like Earl Weaver.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Ha.
Fair point. I met Augie this summer, with the College Baseball Foundation. He was an odd fellow to say the least.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Hahah
He flew in so he had his own car. He was there for Ruffin and a couple of former teammates/players. He seemed disinterested by the whole ordeal.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Your last line was genius
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Totally in agreement here.
The opportunity is there, you have to go after it with everything you have.
If the price of that is a couple of struggling years due to payroll hell on the back end, you accept that.
I am sitting in church
Reading LSB. Is that wrong?
by BEW on Nov 7, 2010 9:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
You reckon
it might impede some of the superstitions from soaking through?
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Everywhere is the perfect place for God discussion for 4Him. Praise the Lord!
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Work less hours...
Length of game times = one more reason to sign with Texas over New York.
"Here we go again" does not mean what it once did...
by erudy on Nov 7, 2010 10:14 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
From Lookout Landing
Opposing pitchers threw 1453.1 innings against the Mariners and posted a 2.92 ERA. Pedro Martinez’s career ERA was 2.93.
Go Rice Owls!
that's demoralizing
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
We sidn anyone yet?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Luis Marte!
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
From Joel Sherman, according to one AL exec-
"Lee is all about the money," the executive added. "His agent is all about the money. And the Yanks have the most money. The ramifications for not signing him are so severe for the Yankees. They can’t replicate what he brings in any other way. They are not going to waste the ton of money they already have invested for 2011 by not bringing in the finishing piece that makes all that money worth it."
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/yanks_options_limited_hB6zwNft6WObwA1hQqHP0J#ixzz14cR3ScdV
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Screw that fuckwad!
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Lee
I’m pretty sure that Lee will go with the biggest offer, no matter the team. The Stark comment that he was hearing that Lee "would go to Siberia if they offered him the biggest contract."
Lee
I’m not so sure that Lee is the kind of pitcher who will age well. He’s not a power pitcher but not a soft-tosser, either. I think he becomes pretty hittable if he loses a couple mph and because of that I’d be uncomfortable giving him a long term deal. But they’ll go after him, anyway, and something tells me this is where he’ll end up. He’ll probably be a true ace for another couple years, though, so maybe it is worth it.
I think he'll still be able to mix all 4 of his pitches and keep his exceptional command
Which will help him keep up being at worst a #3 quality pitcher in his later hyears. Would we be overpaying for a #3 in years 5 and possibly 6….yeah but we would also be getting true ace quality stuff for years 1 and 2 most likely
I agree with you in general
I can count five pitches.
1) Cutter
2) 2 seam fastball that sails away from right handers
3) Changeup
4) Four seam fastball that he likes to throw high to batters
5) Curve ball
If he can keep his control, and mechanics, I see no reason for him to be effective into his late 30s.
I agree with all that
whoever gets him is likely to get 2 years of awesome, 2 years of good-very good, and 2 years of okay but probably hurt most of the time.
Now, if you can milk those two years of awesome for two deep playoff runs, then it is probably worth it. But whoever gets him will essentially be paying $40 million for two years of ace production.
Go Rice Owls!
So the company my brother works for
puts on this big party for their customers and employees for every NASCAR weekend at TMS. They rent 7 spots on the infield and set up a giant tent with tables, TVs and a stripper pole with a light up dance floor. They cook three meals a day for everyone and even have a bloody mary stand set up in the morning next to the coffee. They brought in 300 cases of beer, hundreds of bottles of any liquor you can think of, jello shots and chanpagne.
Any way so I decided to go with my brother yesterday to watch the Sprint Cup race and attended the party….holy shit…..I hate NASCAR so the race blew but the party was insane! The strippers were definitely sub-JeffWooWoo but it was fun…fun like train wreck fun.
Has anyone else heard of a giant corporation putting on something like this?
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
NASCAR parties have been known to be unbelievable
I can’t stand the event itself but I want to go to a race so badly just for the parties
Oh and we need some pics
Actually have some
not of the strippers though because by that point I couldn’t operate the camera….I did get some of the set up right up until the third shot of tequila kicked in.
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
heh, post some
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Some
Most of the pictures I took were during the day while I was still able to function and were of racing crap. I did find a couple I took before we left and they are a bit blurry but are pretty good recreations of what everything looked like to me at the time. There’s one pic in in there of a women standing next to the stripper pole….she was not one of the strippers just messing around (thankfully).
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
A bunch of dirtbag subprime companies used to throw them all the time...
they were straight up debaucherous.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
From what I saw
The employees get wasted and screw each other. Most of them are married…
Doesn’t seem like it would foster a healthy work environment.
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
yup....it was nauseating.....
also appeared that everyone in their had Pablo Escobar on speed-dial.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
And it was probably
all tax deductible as entertainment expenses.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I got to work the race for Nascar Media, we were in the infield for most of Saturday
the tailgating scene is unbelievable, we hung out by the Gander Mtn. tent, the Crown Royal tent, and some other really impressive spreads. but the whole thing is too much
everybody’s cooking, drinking and eating out in the sun for 10 hours, each one of them trying to top their neighbor’s tailgate… and it really is an amazing thing to take in for an hour or two. After that the RV exhaust, grill smoke and watching cars go round gets pretty stupid
by oc on Nov 8, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
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