AL Gold Glove Winners (and Derek Jeter for some reason)
by vfn on Nov 9, 2010 3:42 PM CST
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PrintPitcher Mark Buehrle
First Base Mark Teixeira
Second Base Robinson Cano
Third Base Evan Longoria
Shortstop Derek Jeter
Outfield Ichiro Suzuki
Outfield Franklin Gutierrez
Outfield Carl Crawford
I'm convinced the people who vote for these things don't actually... watch baseball. The Gold Gloves have long been a complete fucking joke, but the writers completely refusal to not be a fucking disgrace has baffled me.
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Originally had that print screened
but I was coming up shorter in the words department and didn’t want to make this a fanshot.
by vfn on Nov 9, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
So funny where that link takes you.
59th, 18 spots below league average….that isn’t even replacement level, is it?
he's twice as bad as the 58th player
which is even funnier to me
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
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Nice to see Andrus at 11
Derek Jeter was 5 times worse than Yuniesky Betancourt!! Also, let it be known that Adam Everett played in only 31 games this year
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
by chrisR on Nov 9, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, he was, for quite a few years.
Made up for his, uh, “hitting”.
by Giant Space Ants on Nov 9, 2010 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
i don't get bothered by them but they are silly
Jeter winning (again) further supports my stance of ignoring anyone who mentions how many Gold Gloves a player won when that player’s Hall of Fame candidacy is being debated. (All Star Game appearances don’t mean shit either)
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
by Hard8 on Nov 9, 2010 3:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Was just talking about this...
with a co-worker. We still can’t believe Jeter actually won another GG.
What a joke.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Now there's no way he's moving to 3B next year!
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
I am amazed.
Not shocked that he won, just amazed that the BBWA is so incredibly out of touch with real actual baseball.
No, wait
It makes sense. Other teams’ players want Derek Jeter to have more leverage during contract negotiations, so the Yankees give him the 6 year contract he wants. Thus, hurting the Yankees.
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
(I'm kiddin, btw)
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
Really? I think it makes it more understandable.
The managers have less time and interest in looking at other games and/or stats and/or getting other opinions on fielding. If they’re anything like the coaches poll in football — which might be actually giving them too much credit — they also don’t care about doing a good job as much.
Nevermind that they don’t see individual players more than 19 times at best.
Gold Gloves are voted on by players and managers.
Not that it makes Jeter’s legitimate by any means. His should have gone to Andrus and one of the OF ones should have gone to gardner.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Alexi Ramirez should have won SS
Defensive stats didn’t like Elvis this year. Ramirez was outstanding.
The Fielding Bible awards (or did I screw the name up?) that were announced a couple of weeks ago are MUCH more accurate than this silliness.
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
by Hard8 on Nov 9, 2010 3:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
sounds right
Longoria is awesome. If only he knew how to be a leader or the face of a franchise, he’d be the perfect player.
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
by Hard8 on Nov 9, 2010 4:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My eyes also didn't like Elvis.
If UZR and DRS both disagree with what I see, then I think there’s a good chance I’m seeing something wrong, but they didn’t. They saw exactly what I saw: a ton of mistakes from a shortstop with a ton of talent who should probably be just fine over a larger sample.
I think Elvis' problem
is definitely more one of focus, and sometimes technique, rather than tools. I think having Vizquel here in 2009 is one reason he performed better then.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I think the day off about every week also helped
He looked a lot better in the postseason with the days off
by Judy'sLewinsky on Nov 9, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Are you a sock puppet or a new guy?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 9, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
I love you, too.
Wait, that’s not what you meant. Oh well.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 10, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
Concur...
the mental errors and lack of focus are what bother me.
The kid still gets to many balls that many SS only dream about.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Eh. I'm not convinced Elvis should have won it.
But Jeter for sure shouldn’t have.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Nah, probably shouldn't have gone to Andrus.
Even if you vote on talent level, I don’t think he has such clear talent above all other shortstops that it makes up for all the mistakes he made this year.
Would have liked it, though.
I think Alexi Ramirez should have got it...
but anyone could have got it over Jeter.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
“Derek Jeter clearly deserved a Gold Glove.”
/Rafael Palmeiro
"There's a larger issue at play here: There is a big social stigma in this country against lazy, self-centered assholes." - The Onion, Are Tests Biased Against Students Who Don't Give A Shit?
Didn't he get one after playing a grueling 30 some odd games at 1B?
"What IS your fascination with my forbidden closet of mystery?"
1999, 28 games
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It's a fucking grind over there at first.
You don’t realize what playing over 25 games can do to your legs.*
*I’m kidding, Josh Garoon. Don’t get mad at me.
What's worse?
Gold Glove or Rolaids Relief Award? (do they even give that out anymore? remember it being a big deal in my younger days)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Batting Stance Guy is the worst.
Not that he really fits in with your question, I just really hate him.
I wish nothing but misery and pain on him.
"What IS your fascination with my forbidden closet of mystery?"
Yeah, he sucks.
http://www.battingstanceguy.com/
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
They still give out the Roliads Award, it's something different now.
Cliff Lee: "Seventy or 80 percent of [Hamilton] is better than everyone else. Everyone knows his history. He’s a complete player who plays every aspect well. He’s the best player I’ve ever played with. That’s the best compliment I can give him.’’
Rolaids Relief Award
is objective, being a point scale. It’s still awful, but it’s objectively awful.
Face Insult Shoehorn Alert
Michael Young has a Gold Glove. That should tell you all you need to know about the credibility of this “award.”
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 9, 2010 4:11 PM CST reply actions
That just helped him get more sympathy, though.
When the Michael Young move comes up in national TV, they talk about how Michael Young led by example and “switched to 3B the year after he won a GG at SS, for the sake of his team” and not about how MY ""switched to 3B the year after he won a GG at SS he didn’t deserve, for the sake of his team"
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
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I got very tired of hearing about how Cano didn’t make an error all season at Yankee Stadium. That doesn’t mean he’s good at defense, but his 3 errors all year is probably why he won.
It's a traveshamockery!!!!!
Whatever. I like how Pinstripe Alley doesn’t even like it and point towards 1) how this might drive up Jeter’s demand (please) and 2) further reinforces why people don’t like Jeter or the Yankees (agreed).
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Heh
The baseball gods gave him this award so the Yankees would have to pay Jeter even more money.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 9, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
Jeter can point to this in his contract negotiation as evidence that he isn’t totally in a decline phase.
Don’t think that’ll mean much, but who knows… if this makes it 0.1% more likely that Jeter’s salary goes up enough to keep the Yankees from outbidding us for Cliff Lee, then YAY GOLD GLOVE FOR JETER.
It isn’t like Elvis would have received it anyway.
Go Rice Owls!
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Jeter can point to this in his contract negotiation as evidence that he isn’t totally in a decline phase.
No way front offices put any value in this award, right? Tell me I’m right.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
okay, it doesn't matter much
after all, it didn’t stop the Rangers from moving Young to 3b.
But it probably matters on the margins. It’ll influence at least one “Pay the league’s best shortstop what he deserves” NY Post article. It makes it a teeny bit harder for the Yankees to bluff walking away from the table.
There is at least a 99.9% (probably closer to 100%) chance that this doesn’t change anything. But I enjoy thinking about the infinitesimal chance that it does.
Go Rice Owls!
dude...
yankees are too smart to offer jeter more than 2 years 2 million.
which leads me to believe that the royals will overpay him way too much. 3 years $35million.
well, I hope you're right.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Front office doesn't care about a hollow GG but the guys who tune in do
I think the Yankees are squarely over a barrel and Jeter and his fans have a bottle of lube and are ready to go to town. This is a guy that’s consistently gone to the ASG (don’t care), home grown and been part of multiple WS titles. Yankee fans would throw a shit fit if he didn’t retire there. I’m not saying a huge dip in attendance but they’d be pissed. Somehow this will hurt them one way or another.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
...a free senior meal at Denny's?
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
funnyordie Funny Or Die
Derek Jeter got the Gold Glove. From now on, “Gold Glove” is how Boston sports fans will refer to herpes.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
by boomer1 on Nov 9, 2010 4:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The real problem is...
….so does Minka Kelly. A fact I reminded Newberg of every single time he sent me that stupid Rally Minka photo. Man I disliked that.
How could you not like Minka Kelly?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 9, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think Minka Kelly is ungodly hot.
But for god’s sakes, Newberg: don’t send me photos of the herpes’d girlfriend of our opponent’s team captain. That was just annoying.
That's twice
Say it one more time and you’ll summon him :)
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by Lisa W on Nov 9, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Is that pronounced
Elv-eye or Elv-ee-eye?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Nov 9, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
How come...
Mark Ellis has never won one of these things? He’s routinely awesome at 2B.
by ghostofErikThompson on Nov 9, 2010 5:16 PM CST reply actions
Courtesy of Rob Neyer:
Meanwhile, Cano’s not a bad choice. It’s just not clear that he’s a better choice than Mark Ellis or Orlando Hudson. And I think it’s a bit of a shame that Ellis, who’s been a Gold Glove-quality second baseman for nearly a decade, still hasn’t won the award and almost certainly never will. If only he had Robinson Cano’s bat …
isn't he injured half the time?
At least I have the mental image of Mark Ellis as Ian Kinsler who can’t hit and fields a bit better.
Go Rice Owls!
He's averaged nearly 130 games per year over the last 7 years...
Which I guess means a DL stint or two each year, but it’s not like he’s playing 70 games or something. He’s been putting in full seasons of awesome defense at 2B.
by ghostofErikThompson on Nov 9, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
ha! deceiving stat alert!
130 games over the past 7 years, but only 115 over the past 3! He’s only played over 125 games twice… which coincidentally is the same number as Ian…
Anyway, my mental image was still overestimating his injury probability though. I could have sworn he missed half a season somewhere. Oh well.
Go Rice Owls!
It's always been amazing to me.
He even has a good reputation. I think it’s pretty clear that managers just do not at all take this seriously.
well
this bodes well for Paris Hilton’s chances of winning an oscar i suppose.
things like this happens every year at the grammy’s. they routinely give those awards to horrible “artists”
I hope somewhere,
Somebody’s kids are making fun of his kids because of that.
by michael bluth on Nov 9, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
from MLBTR
The Red Sox seem “firmly convinced” that Jarrod Saltalamacchia can be their regular catcher, according to MLB.com’s Peter Gammons. Gammons suggests the Red Sox could bring Jason Varitek back to hit against left-handers and mentor Saltalamacchia if Martinez signs elsewhere.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Nov 9, 2010 5:50 PM CST reply actions
he's going to turn into a beast, you know that right?
I’ve already prepared myself for it…
I’m half-joking.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I have a feeling he's gonna be pretty good.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
you mean he'll be able to throw it back to the pitcher
I guess that’s pretty good
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I didn't care for the trade.
But I guess there were bridges burned. I’ve always liked switch-hitting catchers- Ted Simmons, Terry Kennedy, Alan Ashby…that can provide a little at the plate. I still think Salty develops into that.
I went to the game were he returned(torturous 103 degrees), and watched him, and didn’t see any lingering issues w/ his tosses.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
B-R has his most comparable player (through age 25) as Gene Tenace.
I would be incomprehensibly pissed if that actually happened. That said, I don’t see him being anything more than serviceable.
Whoa, that would be ugly.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Anybody heard anything about the guys we got for Salty?
I know their stats, not any scout-y stuff, though.
one of the guys has mid to upper 90s stuff
so there is that
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Roman Mendez.
He also turned 20 this season. Strikes people out. That’s the extent of my knowledge there.
The other players were...
Chris McGuinness (first base prospect with a decent OBP, hasn’t showed much else) and Michael Thomas (who the Rangers immediately converted from a catcher to a picther). Mendez is clearly the best of the three.
Thank you.
I kept looking at Thomas and thinking, “Why?” I remember them converting someone, just didn’t put those together.
McGuinness is basically Mitch Moreland 2.0.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
This is amazing.
I don’t even think there’s a single member of the media who doesn’t mention how bad Jeter is in the field these days, outside of a handful of ex-players.
Using the managers to decide this award makes the BBWAA look so good it’s amazing.
I don't know
They were lavishing praise on him in the ALCS
by knuckleball03 on Nov 9, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
What does that say...
about the intelligence of managers and how well the know certain aspects of the game? Are they just mailing it in and don’t care?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Elvis needs to get the errors closer to single digits
and then he’ll be GOLDEN!
Yahoo Sports article on the whole thing....
Heh…..Matthew Leach of MLB.com
“One joke goes that Gold Gloves are like Supreme Court appointments: They’re hard to get, but once you have them, they’re for life.”
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 9, 2010 9:14 PM CST reply actions
Of course, half of the comments in the yahoo article are people saying, 'But he made only 6 errors! You're just a Yankee hater! Everything about the Yankees is perfect! I love riding Yankee dick!'
Okay, very few people actually said that about the Yankees being perfect.
Brilliant.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I think they call that a "leadership" play.
"The Rangers don't need a mural at third...
they already have a statue." - ACWNS09
by mathewsherill on Nov 9, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
You can't blame Jeter.
He’s used to the home plate ump being on the Yankees’ side.
by AsDevilsRun on Nov 9, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
rectified!!!!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 10, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
Catcher went to back up first for the 1-6-3 DP instead of staying home for the 1-6-2.
That’s all I’ve got. Not totally Jeter’s fault.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Yeah, wonder why Posada (or Cervelli, I don't know/care)
did that. Obviously, the pitcher can’t cover home for him, since he just fielded the ball.
I get that, but don't you see that no one is at home?
Yes, it was a dumb decision for whichever douchebag Yankee catcher was playing that day, but still…
Yeah he should have held back the throw.
But seriously the more I watch that gif what the hell was that catcher doing?
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Don't you see how Jeter couldn't have known that to begin with?
I’m not a Jeter apologist but this play was not his fault. With a runner on 3rd the catcher should not have left home plate especially on a ball fielded by the pitcher, since that means no one is able to cover home.
Jeter has the guy out by 10 feet if the catcher is there even if the throw was up the 3rd base line (which I imagine was due to Jeter trying to alter his throw once he saw no one was there but let it go anyways.
The Yankees actually recorded a triple play later that game.
Very strange day.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Nov 10, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
If you're seriously surprised by this at this point
…well, let’s just say you shouldn’t be.
You can still call me LSJ if you want to.
I just love it
because it makes Jeter’s negotiations with the Yankees even more delicious.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
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