Rangers sign Endy Chavez, Brian Barden to minor league deals
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 18, 2010 4:18 PM CST
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PrintAnthony Andro tweets that Endy Chavez, Seth McClung, and Brian Barden have all been signed by the Rangers and have invites to the major league camp.
The news that McClung had signed with the Rangers was broken by Jerry Crasnick yesterday, and with him reporting it was a split contract, I assumed it was a major league deal. Andro's tweet, though, seems to indicate it is a minor league deal.
Crasnick said earlier today that McClung will earn $700,000 from the Rangers if he makes the team, with another $700,000 possible in incentives based on starts.
Chavez, meanwhile, will presumably have a chance to fill the role he was expected to fill in 2010 -- minor league insurance for Julio Borbon, and a potential fifth outfielder. The Rangers really like Craig Gentry, and I would think that Gentry would be ahead of Chavez in the pecking order, but if Borbon struggles (or is dealt), you could see Chavez in Texas.
Barden, I suspect, is simply a guy added for minor league infield depth.
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Meh
Depth is good, I suppose.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I don't know why
but I didn’t even see the word depth there, I read it as “Meth is good.”
"They both have, according to scouts, "stacked minor league systems" but I just don’t see the Rays competing against the Red Sox or Yankees and I don’t think the Rangers will be able withstand the offseason wrath of Moreno. Have fun while it lasts." - by angelsownredsux
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Dec 18, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Optical tricks FTW.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
We should do a fanpost where ...
we assign a value to every kind of elicit drug. Heroin gets 10 pts. Cocaine 5 pts. Ganja gets 1 pt. Shrooms get 7 pts. Meth gets 8 pts. Speed gets 3 pts. LSD gets … etc. etc. etc. Then everybody adds up their score from their user life list and we hand out prizes. Maybe have bonus pts if you’ve gone thru rehab. Bonus pts for supplementing 50% of your income at some point by dealing. Other bonus pts could be thought up. We could establish a cut-off date … so nobody goes out and tries LSD or something just to increase their LSB “Most Fried Reg” point total. Yeah. We should do this.
"Nevermind, I am an idiot and I am wrong." - booyakasha
by shroomer on Dec 18, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But what if
you don’t have an income? Tricksy rules are tricksy.
"They both have, according to scouts, "stacked minor league systems" but I just don’t see the Rays competing against the Red Sox or Yankees and I don’t think the Rangers will be able withstand the offseason wrath of Moreno. Have fun while it lasts." - by angelsownredsux
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Dec 18, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well, see ...
most people who probably dealt semi-serious were poor college student types. So maybe we’d need to establish a yearly base income of 10K or something just to show you were at least running a register part time in a convenience store or something.
"Nevermind, I am an idiot and I am wrong." - booyakasha
Thought about it much?
"They both have, according to scouts, "stacked minor league systems" but I just don’t see the Rays competing against the Red Sox or Yankees and I don’t think the Rangers will be able withstand the offseason wrath of Moreno. Have fun while it lasts." - by angelsownredsux
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Dec 18, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
I hope it's like golf and lowest score wins or I'm fucked.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I think I'd do pretty well in this game.
Like Lance Armstrong, that ball is gone!
by JimCrankshaft on Dec 18, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
You damn well better with 'crank' in your name.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
lol
Like Lance Armstrong, that ball is gone!
by JimCrankshaft on Dec 18, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
I’m not sure if that’s a good or a bad thing.
Are we going to award bonus points if you’ve done drugs with someone famous? How about semi-famous?
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
i am afraid i would win this game
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Dec 18, 2010 6:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You could sign Cliff Lee with my score.
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
you could more than likely sign pujols with mine
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Dec 19, 2010 12:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
and meth and speed are the same thing
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Dec 18, 2010 6:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's what I thought
But I was afraid to say.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 18, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
sadly i at one time was a drug aficionado
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Dec 18, 2010 6:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can do this without the values.
0.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
truly, such a noble esquire
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
...
…
…
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
It's your fault.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Yup
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
man I'm usually proud of that
but now I just feel un-hip. anybody wanna go pop some vitamin C pills and act trashed?
Section 239, Row 1, Seats 1&2
Ever watched Frasier?
This was my favorite episode.
"I also have to say that I was pretty obviously wrong about C.J. Wilson. As recently as the All Star Break, I proclaimed the decision to move him the rotation a failure. That was epicfail of a, well, epic nature" - AJM
You know I love that Chronic -- WHAT --
cles of Narnia.
by rockin_rangers on Dec 18, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yay
signings that will never contribute to the major league team!
in all seriousness though depth IS good
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 4:30 PM CST reply actions
QUALITY depth is good
I’m not sure how much quality is involved here
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Yeah
it seams as if we are, but these could be just depth signings for just good ole fashion depth.
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yawn, all 3 of those guys suck.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Kind of funny,
because Chavez probably looks like the Ghost of Christmas Future to Borbon.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
This isn't shopping at the Salvation Army...
This is begging for a church donated winter coat and can of creamed corn.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 18, 2010 5:35 PM CST reply actions
but creamed corn is good.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
whats up fuckers
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
My blood alcohol content
It’s graduation weekend!
Not for me, but… whatever. It’s less hectic this way.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Well this certainly saves the off-season.
Ain’t no stoppin’ us now!
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
A win is much more helpful than holding your own.
Especially the embarrassing way USC handled themselves on their last few possessions.
well they were 18 pt dogs at kansas.not sure what you really expected them to do.
zags played on a neutral court in dallas…
I had thought most split contracts were minor league deals
Isn’t it usually that the number given is what the player will make if and only if they actually make the big club, but they’re technically not on the 40-man yet? IIRC that’s what happened with Todd Wellemeyer with the Giants last year.
X
Jim Breen (@BerniesCrew)
12/18/10 9:41 PM
Source tells me #Brewers have traded SS Alcides Escobar, CF Lorenzo Cain, and RHP Jeremy Jeffress for RHP Zack Greinke, SS Betancourt + $2M.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I am going to have a meltdown...
if that is the fucking price for Greinke and the Rangers didn’t match it. FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKK.
Escobar is Elvis 2.0, maybe.
Jeffress is their #3 prospect for 2011 according to fangraphs.
Cain was thei number 8 prospect in 2010 according to Baseball America.
We could EASILY beat this deal.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
So give them the future Elvis.
We have at least two, and they don’t need him for next year.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
That's obviously not what Moore is thinking.
There’s a reason they would target Escobar, and it’s because of his proximity to the majors (had a shitty year but already graduated).
Sure, they could beat that deal
but that doesn’t mean that they want to. If the Rangers decided that they didn’t want to trade Perez or Holland, which is certainly a reasonable take, then it isn’t surprising Texas didn’t top them
Yesterday I was suggesting Scheppers, Beltre/Profar, Hunter; and while I was mocked for it. This deal seems to be at that level.
Go Rice Owls!
And if KC doesn't like Beltre or Profar
which could be the case, since they both require a lot of projection, it may not be possible to get a deal done if KC insists on a top position player coming back.
Go Rice Owls!
Same dude...
Still attempting to confirm #Brewers / Greinke rumor. Still heard nothing — so still a rumor at this point.
This is coming from the Milwaukee newspaper.
Echo chamber in full force…
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Really what does Mil think they have a shot to win anything in the near future.
I guess JD sat on his hands too long, there goes the season. PSSHHHTTT
/initialoverreaction
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
well a team with Gallardo and Greinke fronting the rotation
and Braun and Fielder in the middle of the lineup could certainly make some noise in the NL.
Yeah true
but I highly doubt that they would be able to even dent StL, Cincy,and even the Cubs this year, much less make it as a wild card.
But it is less pressure for Greinke, and maybe he will thrive, congrats to him but JD should have been in on this.
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
We could have upped that deal by a ton
and still not give up what would have been a horrible deal. FUCKKKKK
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Call me a heretic
but I might consider 4 years of Elvis for 2 years of Greinke as long as there was nothing else in the deal.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
he does not ELVIS IS GOD
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't his agent
Boras? If so, you probably aren’t going to re-sign him.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I wouldn't
for the simple reason that the Rangers have no one – as in NO ONE – able to fill in for Elvis. You’d be going to replacement level at SS for likely the next two years. I don’t think 2 years of Greinke is worth that.
Go Rice Owls!
I'm willing to bet
we can find a good glove no bat SS. Of course, all this is contingent on my assumption that Boras is Elvis’ agent, and therefore we probably aren’t re-signing him anyway.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yeah, probably
but we’d get another guy like that as the utility.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Jesus
I hope this is not true.
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Dec 18, 2010 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know much about Escobar as a prospect,
but he was pretty shit-tastic as a player this year.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 18, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I drafted that fucker expecting him to steal 50 bases.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
.288 OBP
would definitely limit his chances there.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 18, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
I have a hard time believing this.
Maybe they are considering a trade, but there’s no way a trade has already been agreed upon without any rumors leaking out during the negotiation.
"Certainly, we were penalties, and we stopped ourselves." - Les Miles
Pretty much flinging shit at a wall and hoping..
It sticks.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 18, 2010 10:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously...
If somehow this is real, which I severely doubt… KC is basically just telling the Rangers they wont do business with them, because any number of Rangers packages could beat this.
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 18, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
From what i gathered over on the Royals page
There were much better deals out there and they are pissed off at Dayton Moore (?GM i guess)
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Morre is their GM and generaly one of the worst GM's in baseball
He wanted Arias for his team for god sake
"I know that I know nothing" ~Socrates
by Felix is fast on Dec 18, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Dayton Moore Incompetence Tournament.
It is epic.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 18, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Has the next round happened?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
As fuzzy as our Cliff Lee is in Arlington rumor?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
No one obsesses over the Rangers
JacquesTaylor
This would culminate a bad week for rangers
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Yeah the shit topping on an awesome offseason
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
What I think of this rumor:
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Actually makes sense in one way
to get Greinke out of the AL and that KC would never see him again at least for the two years he is there.
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 18, 2010 11:04 PM CST reply actions
I doubt KC cares about Greinke being part of their competition in the near future.
Not like they’ll be competing for anything.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 18, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
not totally insane
considering that Einstein Moore said he didn’t want to trade him within the division. Why not just send him out of the entire american league?
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Dec 18, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Eh.
He says that, but I doubt he’d take a lesser package just to get him out of the division (or league). Greinke will be on the market by the time the Royals are competitive again.
Then again…Dayton Moore, so valid point.
And hey, Greinke likes to hit.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 18, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
You don't take a much lesser package just to do that.
You don’t even know where he’ll be in two years. He could come right back.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
making the point
that dayton moore wouldn’t do something illogical is illogical itself. lol
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Dec 18, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
if this trade is done...i'm gonna be fucking pissed
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
if this is true...then this an abortion of an offseason
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
They're now saying Jake Odorizzi has been added to the deal.
Brewers’ first rounder in ’08, had 10K/9 in A ball last year.
Que sera, sera.
sooo has this trade been confirmed or what?
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
burying my head in the sand
ricky nolasco anybody?? where in the hell is the freaken front office???
you all hate me??? news flash: i don't care
Thumbs In Asses/Most Important Offseason In The History Of This Thing/Ferns
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Better question:
Where are his thumbs?
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 18, 2010 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Touche
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Odorizzi/Jeffress/Escobar/Cain
It doesn’t look that bad now, but it still doesn’t come off as all too close to the rumoured price during the Winter Meetings.
If the Rangers were to make a package, it’d be a further-away, higher-risk/higher-upside version of the deal.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I still don't get it from the Royals' POV.
That’s probably about the best the Brewers could do, but I just don’t get why Moore would do it. Odorizzi would be the best prospect (Escobar has graduated) coming back and he’d be, at best, the 5th best pitcher in the Royals’ system. Looking at it from afar, it just doesn’t appear to be a good match.
This would be a very Doug Melvinish thing to do though.
It's a major-league ready package
Which tend to be not all that good in terms of actual value, but I guess GMDM (if he’s actually considered something alone the lines) looks at this deal and sees that he’s covering CF and SS for a while, he’s getting a good late-inning relief prospect and an additional prospect who looks to be a solid mid-rotation guy in the future.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
So now...
there are two Milwaukee newspapers reporting the story, but with one different name in between the two…
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 18, 2010 11:40 PM CST reply actions
check that
One online blog written by the major newspaper beat writer, and an online newssite similar to DMagazine type site.
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 18, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
They are on his no trade list.
I have a lot of salt in hand right now.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Maybe they'll bring back David Riske for him.
Riske helped him overcome his issues before he went to Milwaukee.
Que sera, sera.
Maybe we could include Estaban German.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Iknowright?
He’s got a good bat and great speed, and he plays good defense! Sounds like a guy Dayton WOULD love to have on his team!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
And he already had him once!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
On a lighter note
I am preparing this years Rangers top 10 highlights countdown… Should be a great list this year…
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 18, 2010 11:43 PM CST reply actions
Silence across the baseball interwebs...
This means one thing, and one thing only…
They are all calling and texting there sources… Waiting to hear back from them…
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 18, 2010 11:44 PM CST reply actions
Kevin Goldstein doin' what he do on the twitter
As of 11:43 pm, neither Cain, nor Jeffress has had any contact from #Brewers or #Royals.
No clue; I’ve gotten five texts from front office folks asking the same . . . RT @maelias33: @Kevin_Goldstein what are odds this is true?
That’s some NaCl he’s throwin’ around, there.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Kosher or non Kosher?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Kosher is so much better
The only time I use non-kosher is to either use alder-smoked sea salt, Hawaiian red sea salt, or bacon salt.
Protip: Bacon salt fucking rocks. It’s like Lowry’s seasoned salt turned up to nine and a half.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
I don't know the protocol, but Greinke needs to pass the physical.
That could be the holdup in informing the proposed traded.
Que sera, sera.
Hmmmmm, if true are we on Plan X or Plan Y
in the biggest off-season in the history of This Thing?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
lets see if this is true or not first
i’m ready to jump off the cliff…..but lets see
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
If this is true, fucccccck.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 18, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
NOLASCO
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
The only positive that can come of this
is that if that is indeed the package, it should set the market for trade packages for other starters like Nolasco
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Dec 18, 2010 11:56 PM CST reply actions
Please let it be low.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
i expect nolasco in here next week if this is true
dutch over been step it up cuz we’re gonna need it
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
If true
it’s confirmed that JD has had his thumbs up is ass this entire off-season,
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Dec 18, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to disagree here, but yeah, this will be hard to defend JD on.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 18, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
Wheeee, at least we have money to keep Elvis!
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
He's going to leave
/LSJ
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
If Boras is his agent
It’s almost a mortal lock.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
it would suck bad but be even worse that josey was right
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Your life must suck pretty bad if that's the case.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
The offseason
is infinitely more important to me than Josey’s shotgun predictions.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 19, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't predict that JD would have his thumbs up his ass during our
most important off-season but I took note of it early on and nothing has changed since free agency began.
We hear the same old bullshit and now the sonofabitch has been extended a special force field from LSB because Baseball America named him “Executive of the Year.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Dec 19, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
According to you
not splurging on 1B/DH types is being inactive.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
No, JD has been inactive this off-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Dec 19, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
He's been responsible with his cash.
That doesn’t absolve him, but it’s better than throwing deals all over the place to players who likely won’t be worth the cost.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
The Grip
on the Umbrella of Protection gets tighter and the bullshit excuses grow louder.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Dec 19, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
How is it a bullshit excuse?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Quit while you are ahead.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
The Umbrella of Protection
Like I’ve told you about 100 times this off-season, getting a team to ITS FIRST EVER WORLD SERIES will earn you that.
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
Somebody needs to tell JD that the 2010 season ended about 6 weeks ago.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
They also need to tell him one of the primary reasons
we got to the World Series is now going to pitch for the Philadelphia Phillies.
The “GM with the Thumbs up his ass” off-season strategy apparently didn’t impress Cliff Lee either.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Dec 20, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I dont know why im even going to respond to you...but
What if JD offered a good trade, but they loved Escobar, and he was the guy they really wanted. For the rangers to get him, they demand Elvis in return. If they told JD the players dont match, what the fuck do you want him to do?
You are so fucking illogical sometimes
Josey Wales is stupid
This sucks if true
Sucks sweaty donkey balls
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Dec 18, 2010 11:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Tomorrow we'll see Greinke with his new Brewers jersey.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
What of Greinke went to the Phils?
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 19, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
Mind blown
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Who would get skipped in that rotation come playoff time?
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 19, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
Oswalt and Greinke to the pen?
/HOLYSHIT
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
the way the offseason is going.......i wouldnt be surprised
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
This sounds much less certain the trade isnt happening than he did before...
I’ll just say that I don’t think it’s done right now. RT @Kauffman4: @Kevin_Goldstein Do you think the Greinke rumors are true?
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 19, 2010 12:10 AM CST reply actions
we need a JD steal kinda like the Cliff Lee trade
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
That sounds like there's actually a deal in place.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 19, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
Melanie Laurent.
I think. I also think it’s the accent. Accents get me. The rest is nice, too.
by AsDevilsRun on Dec 19, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
She's the image you think of when you imagine French beauty.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 19, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe you.
Sophie Marceau was only about a million times better looking.
by brettgardner on Dec 19, 2010 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
Ding ding ding.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Moar Goldstein, you guys
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Feeling safe writing up a Kentrail Davis scouting report for #Brewers Top 11.
…
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
...
Solid chance you will never sleep again. RT @jtoryfter: @Kevin_Goldstein Kevin I refuse to go to sleep until you can confirm this deal!
Tell him to stop being cagey.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
What I don't get in this whole shit storm is....
Why would Zack Greinke OK a trade to Milwaukee, when
1 the Brewers ARE NOT going to be sniffing the playoffs in the two years that he is there STL and Cincy got that on lock down, CHI C would be the team to move up.
2. the Brewers insiders said that there is NO WAY management does a deal for Greinke unless there was a contract extension in place, why the hell would he want to play in Milwaukee for two or more years.
3. They trade away one of the more important defensive pieces to a pitcher the SHORTSTOP and a good one at that.
4. From what I have heard the Milwaukee system is not very good and there is not much there right now
So basically Zack would be pitching two of his prime years for a team that in those two years is not going to be very good , hell he could have just stayed in KC and at least they have a farm so the future looks bright for them, thaBrew crew has nothing going for them ATM.
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 12:37 AM CST reply actions
I completely agree
But do we even know if Milwaukee is in Greinke’s no-trade list? I found a local Milwaukee sports writer who speculated that the Brewers were on his no-trade list, but I never heard any confirmation on this.
by Stephen Rushin on Dec 19, 2010 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
1. Ummm. Gallardo-Greinke-Marcum + Fielder, Braun, and Weeks is a pretty good core that can compete next year. If you think the Cardinals can compete, than I don’t see how the Brewers couldn’t compete.
4. How is that different from other Doug Melvin trades?
And they'd still have that damn car on the field.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
BBTIA is apparently buying the trade
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
IncarceratedBob throwing in some deets
CONFIRMED MLB RUMORS The Milwaukee Brewers have agreed in principle to trade for Zack Greinke – Deal still needs Greinke ’s approval
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
not a week after he was shown to obviously have no idea at all whats going on
why would you post his tweets.
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Because he's the only one to mention Greinke needing to approve the deal
Which is a pretty important detail, if he listed Milwaukee in his no-trade clause and all.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Plus, saying incarceratedbob is fun
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Oops.
Greinke has a limited no-trade clause that would allow him to decline a trade to 15 different teams. The Yankees, Twins, Brewers and Blue Jays are all on that list
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 19, 2010 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
In other weirdness
The Mavs, are looking at trading Brendan Haywood and the Houston Rockets are interested after Yao’s season ending injury.
I’m cool with that if Chander is getting a LT deal.
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:04 AM CST reply actions
most definately cool w/ that
any idea on who the mavs would get back?
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
holy shit....i'd make that trade yesterday
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
That is what I saw as well
I would think a 2nd round draft pick and maybe some sort of trade/injury exception or cash.
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
They'd want Roddy back on that, wouldn't they?
And do the Mavs have enough by way of trade exceptions to make Haywood/Roddy for Martin work, or do they need to add salary?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
They want Roddy back for Kevin Martin?
Where do I sign?
by brettgardner on Dec 19, 2010 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
Are you high?
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 19, 2010 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
Roddy B is going to be good
but he’s never going to be a guy that can facilitate an offense. He’s a 2 trapped in a 1’s frame.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 19, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
Roddy can be pretty damn good
as a really, really good third player on the floor. But you still need to pair him with Dirk and another effective scorer.
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careful with this
Kevin Martin, Caron Butler and Jason Terry on the same team is a waste. Only two of those guys can be in the rotation at the same time. Best starting 5 has Kidd with Stevenson and Martin, and of course Dirk and Chandler. That leaves Butler, Jet and Marion on the bench though, and Butler/Marion can’t both play with Jet out there too.
If we do pull off that deal, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it become something bigger than what it is… something like Butler/Haywood/Boubois for Martin/Brad Miller.
ESPN Trade Machine says it works and it’s +6 wins for Dallas
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I'd be on it
Because Miller really replaces what Heywood is doing here and the french backups haven’t looked terrible. We need to tap the brakes in real life though and recognize that Tyson Chandler has had real injury issues, and if we make this trade and he goes down we’re screwed.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=984
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you'd be surprised
how many people don’t see to get it. or maybe you wouldn’t be surprised. I don’t know you.
I’m messing around with the espn trade machine… apparently LeBron is worse than JET. I queued up a trade where we got back Rondo, D-Wade, Dwight Howard and Shaq for Butler, Heywood, Stevenson, Chandler and Jones, and it gave us +20 wins. Then I added JET for LeBron and it dropped to +19 wins. For the record, I think a team of:
Kidd
Wade
LeBron
Dirk
Howard
—
Rondo
Marion
Shaq
would win 150 games in a single season.
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That's because PER is stupid.
And so is the trade machine for everything except seeing if numbers match.
by brettgardner on Dec 19, 2010 1:45 AM CST up reply actions
so it's stupid for everything
except what it’s used for? that seems needlessly negative. I like having it around.
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Good for matching contracts
Stupid for analyzing win differentials. Pretty clear.
by brettgardner on Dec 19, 2010 1:47 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah agreed
but win diff is a dumb stat no matter what you do. I can’t really think of a better way to display the effectiveness of the trade though. gotta have something.
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I do agree that PER
is limited, but I think it’s a pretty solid evaluation of a player’s effectiveness. We’re spoiled in baseball by having so much better stats to analyze
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I'd like to hear your basis for that
Trust me I’m not a huge hollinger fan, and I hate his team rankings – I think they’re full of shit. Point differential drives me crazy. But I really do think the PER is pretty effective and determining who has been consistently effective and positive for their team.
That being said, I watch a shit load of basketball, not just mavs, and look at a ton of stats on a regular basis, and I usually find that my off-the-cuff analysis lines up pretty well with what the PER says.
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But that's not the point.
You could look at who has the best ERA or W-L and it’ll usually line up with who the best pitchers are, but that doesn’t mean that we should use those stats to evaluate pitchers.
PER’s calculations are strange. I think the general critiques are usually that offensive inefficiencies are rewarded and defense is not.
by brettgardner on Dec 19, 2010 1:59 AM CST up reply actions
tough because there really are no defensive stats
in basketball, besides the obvious steals and blocks. teams track things like good defensive possessions, charges taken (this should be an official stat) and deflected balls. I wouldn’t mind seeing some kind of UZR-ish stat that measures a player’s tendency to create deflections or alter shots. It would likely align pretty well with the guys who get lots of steals and blocks though.
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Boubois is UNTRADEABLE TO ME
Too much upside
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:37 AM CST up reply actions
too many what ifs and if you can get kevin martin out of this, then you do it instantly
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
He's pretty damn good.
I’m still having trouble with this though. I don’t think I do it. His contract only goes through 2011.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Did anyone ever found out what happened with that game suspension thing?
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only thing i heard was that he broke team rules
whatever that means
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
It means whatever it was is staying in house.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Still nothing on MLB Tade Rumors...
about Greinke to the Brewers.
I’m not sure if I’m buyin’ it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Tom Haurdicourt
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel beat writer just tweeted this:
My contact in KC was not able to confirm a deal has been made with Greinke, either, so don’t know what else to say at this point.
So it sounds like there may be, in fact, a tentative deal in place that cannot officially be confirmed or denied at this point. His comment also makes you wonder if the no-trade clause is going to be an issue. But it does sound like there is certainly something to this report. We’ll see.
ya, it does seem that might be the case
there seems to be some legs and the package seems like it might be in the ballpark. I have my doubts that Greinke will ok that deal though.
The Ranger's will win the AL pennant by 2013
Im somewhat suprised
but not so much so cuz I could see Moore falling in love with a player like Escobar.
The Ranger's will win the AL pennant by 2013
I thought the same thing, too
But it doesn’t seem as if we have any legitimate confirmation that Milwaukee is even on Greinke’s no-trade list. Just speculation at this point. Who knows. This does look like a weak deal for Kansas City, so I am pretty skeptical.
by Stephen Rushin on Dec 19, 2010 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
This is what he is doing
Below
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
Caption: Texas Rangers General Manager Jon Daniels
while Zack Greinke trade was being finalized.
Credit me and the interwebs.
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:35 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh man, you know what would make this image funny?
Humor, that’s what.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Dec 19, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I got a chuckle making it.
If you have no sense of humor that is not my fault. Humor is all I have cause this team is falling apart.
OVERREACTION!
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:39 AM CST up reply actions
I like how when people say something isn't funny
The only answer is “you don’t have a sense of humor.”
It wasn’t funny.
by brettgardner on Dec 19, 2010 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
I thought it was funny
not LOL funny but ohh HA funny.
Jeez tough fucking room?
Some of the shit people put on here and I get crap for this fucking WOW!
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
Dumb fuck.
/ANGRYDOME!
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That's like me saying 'This here handful of Scarlett Johannson's boobmeat that I have right now is all I have right now'
Spoiler: I don’t have a hand on Scarlett’s sweater turtles.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
What has happened to my LSB?
Like Lance Armstrong, that ball is gone!
by JimCrankshaft on Dec 19, 2010 5:12 AM CST up reply actions
It'd be better if you showed
Daniels with his thumbs up his ass.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
It would be NSFW
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
are we really going to end up
with brandon webb and guerrero as our fa signing this off season
fucking shitty ass job jon
The anticlutch.
just wait until next season
when we sign Pujols to a 12 year, 400mm contract.
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Like, make them a dumbass, gouge us in the ass deal?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
You should be lynched.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Your terrible basketball opinions hardly help.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Again, this proves how crass your argument is.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
let me know when
Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Wade, Durant, Howard, Anthony, etc. win a championship without another elite player on their team. The only player in the league with that kind of pedigree is Duncan.
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Gosh, yes.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Don't mind Webb
Low risk (to us) extremely high reward.
Guererro is not going to be good this year, would have rather had Thome or Lee TBH. But Thome is not able to play any position effectively and Lee would want to be the 1st baseman, and I think Moreland deserves a real shot at 1st this year.
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:08 AM CST up reply actions
i don't mind webb at a reasonable price either
i’m just saying in general, if that’s our big signing, big disappointment.
The anticlutch.
Very agreed
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:21 AM CST up reply actions
I meant to say that
I knew someone would catch that.
Elvis Andrus and Derek Holland make me moist!
by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:23 AM CST up reply actions
Looking good
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:08 AM CST up reply actions
exactly
We all have just sky high hopes for this 2011 season. Go Rangers!
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:22 AM CST up reply actions
Let's hope, for our sake of getting snubbed, he rejects.
Greinke has a limited no-trade clause that would allow him to decline a trade to 15 different teams. The Yankees, Twins, Brewers and Blue Jays are all on that list
word...but it seems he's desperate to leave KC so i'm not sure he'd block any trade
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
I hold out hope on the
“Zack Greinke likes to win” theory if so he would turn it down cause MIL ain’t winning anything, they WILL BE BETTER but no playoffs unless more moves are made and better draft picks are picked in forthcoming years.
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:26 AM CST up reply actions
For the record
the guys at minorleagueball seem to think Milwaukee’s package trumps Holland-Beltre-Ogando.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Kc fans seem to want to take
the Rangers package over everyone else so far. It is the Royals anyway.
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by Nah ha ha He He on Dec 19, 2010 2:28 AM CST up reply actions
I'd say that's reasonable.
I’d have more faith in Cain as a major-league CF right now, Jeffress-Ogando might end up a wash in the end (if they reach their likely ceilings as late-inning relievers) and Odorizzi/Escobar, depending on your taste, could trump Holland – Escobar still has a lot of promise, Odorizzi could end up as decent as Holland is (though he’s a long way away).
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
z
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/19/figuring-out-the-zack-grienke-to-milwaukee-rumor/
you all hate me??? news flash: i don't care
by Brooks on Dec 19, 2010 3:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions
For a team that just went to the WS, this off season is just depressing so far..
My biggest fear is us not making the playoffs its hard making the ws so I wouldn’t consider that a failure. But we have got to maintain our momentum somehow its good that so far the other teams havent made huge moves but Oakland worries me and the Angels will always be in the mix. I wonder if this is a done deal and JD cant trump this at the last minute. Though it sees like we just didnt have the pieces they wanted.
Dutch Oven its time to step up cause we are so screwed if you dont.
Is this really true?
The Rangers really like Craig Gentry, and I would think that Gentry would be ahead of Chavez in the pecking order,
Aren’t both Chavez and Gentry just filler insurance guys who can handle CF defensively and can’t hit? Just insurance for Borbon who can handle CF defensively and can’t hit?
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yeah,
but I’m still not sure the Rangers “Really Like” Gentry, or if he is just more depth that is easily stashed in AAA. I suspect the like him as a 6th or 7th OF, but that’s about it.
I honestly don’t think it is really all that tough to find guys like Chavez or Gentry (or maybe even Borbon if his bat doesn’t develop), guys with speed who can play CF but can’t hit a lick.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
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