Crasnick, Olney: Webb deal is for $3 million guaranteed
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 27, 2010 10:02 AM CST
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PrintJerry Crasnick and Buster Olney are both separately saying on Twitter that they are hearing that the Brandon Webb contract with the Rangers is for $3 million guaranteed, with Crasnick saying that incentive could bump it up to $8-10 million.
$3 million is on the upper end of what I would have liked to see the Rangers spend on Webb, in terms of guaranteed money, given that there seems to be a decent chance that he'll do nothing in 2011. I'd be more concerned about this if these were the Tom Hicks Rangers. But given that the Rangers had apparently budgeted payroll for 2011 in excess of what they are looking like they'll end up spending, and given that the Webb addition isn't likely to keep the Rangers from doing something else, this deal seems not unreasonable.
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$3 mil seems fine to me. Fairly low risk there.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Yes, this deal is pretty impossible to hate.
Not much else to say here.
Moderately low risk… high reward… thumbs up… Serbian guy…
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Dec 28, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
It doesn't look like we will reach our budget
so I have no problem with 1 year deals at this point….
by death of the cool on Dec 27, 2010 10:07 AM CST reply actions
agreed
Perhaps they could offer Adrian Beltre and Andy Pettitte substantial dollar amounts for 1 year deals
I know Beltre doesn’t want a one year deal. But the 5 or 6 year deal he does want isn’t out there, apparently. Doesn’t hurt to ask. Better than just settling for Vlad.
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
by Hard8 on Dec 27, 2010 10:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The problem with Beltre on a 1 year deal is...
We have nothing in place at 3rd for the future. If you’re going to move face off of 3rd you need a long term solution… Beltre could be that for 4-5 years IMO but unfortunately you’d have to overpay him to get him in here, maybe 5-75? Just signing him to 1 year is short sighted in my opinion unless JD pairs it with a MY + Perez for Moustakas deal?
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Dec 27, 2010 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I see your point, but the truth is.........
……that Michael Young has no business playing 3rd base in 2012, anyway (probably not in 2011, either). So whether Beltre is here for 2011 or they try to hide Young there for one more season, it’s an issue.
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
Once Beltre is gone.
The age of Olt will begin.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Mike Olt will feel bad that Beltre has to leave
"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing."
He has already begun his pennance.
Which is 1500 sharp grounders fielded at 3B.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
WTF?
No, he’s bad.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Dec 28, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Poor Marcus Lemon... I still stand behind my logic, but holy fuck did he fart his internal organs out of his dick.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Dec 28, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
Signing is fine considering the contracts this off-season
No question that Webb falls under the “poke and hope” category. Fingers crossed.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
Let me know when the price of contracts go down in an off-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Dec 27, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
I would have preferred an NRI
but clearly that wasn’t going to be possible with actual competition for him. 3 million won’t kill the team though and hopefully he pitches well enough to earn more than that.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
This means he makes the starting rotation and gets 15 starts, minimum.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
even if we make it to the WS
Which seems unlikely with the team as of today, Webb will have most likely already reached the maximum amount of innings earlier in the season. Yesterday, we were talking about best case scenario for Webb, and most people seemed to think 120 IP is the threshold of what he could reasonably acheieve if he stays healthy. I think that takes him up to a little past the ASB if they are careful with his innings.
most people?
Most people pegged CJ at something close to that innings total as well … maybe ‘we’ don’t know as much as we think we know about innings and stamina through a season
lol
The 40 trumps all!
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-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Dec 28, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't have any
real problems with this signing. But, like Torrealba, it really doesn’t excite me either. Hopefully Webb is at least serviceable.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
would you rather them make poor decisions
that are exciting
Or make sound decisions and improve the team in the best way they can given the market, while retaining flexibility to make deals later when perhaps the price becomes more reasonable?
Pennants aren’t won in the offseason. Just ask teams like the Mets, Cubs and Angels.
I’d rather the front office keep their composure and not make silly deals than step out of line to placate the bandwagon fans or somesuch
Budget
I have no idea what it is.
They talked about $80 million or so before obviously being willing to extend it to sign Lee.
I’m guessing it’s somewhere in the $85-90 million range.
I have us at about $85-87 million right now, depending on whether the Harden and Guerrero option money counts towards this year’s budget.
by Darrell McKown on Dec 27, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions
How?
They were around $ 77 million at the end of the season and I thought we lost close to $ 20 million when Lee (9m), Molina (6m), Francouer (5m) left.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
They weren't paying most of Lee, Molina and Francouer's salaries.
Michael Young 16,000,000 (signed)
Josh Hamilton 10,000,000 (arbitration, estimate)
C.J. Wilson 7,000,000 (arbitration, estimate)
Ian Kinsler 6,000,000 (signed)
Vladimir Guerrero 9,000,000 (estimate)
Scott Feldman 4,400,000 (signed)
Frank Francisco 4,000,000 (arbitration, estimate)
Darren Oliver 3,250,000 (signed)
Nelson Cruz 3,500,000 (arbitration, estimate)
Arthur Rhodes 3,500,000 (signed, estimate)
Colby Lewis 3,000,000 (signed)
Brandon Webb 3,000,000 (signed, estimate)
Yorvit Torrealba 3,000,000 (signed)
David Murphy 1,500,000 (arbitration, estimate)
Mark Lowe 1,200,000 (signed)
Darren O’Day 1,100,000 (arbitration, estimate)
Backup 1B/DH 1,000,000 (estimate)
Matt Treanor 850,000 (singed)
Tommy Hunter 425,000 (team control)
Elvis Andrus 425,000 (team control)
Julio Borbon 425,000 (team control)
Neftali Feliz 425,000 (team control)
Derek Holland 425,000 (team control)
Andres Blanco 425,000 (team control)
Alexi Ogando 425,000 (team control)
Mitch Moreland 425,000 (team control)
by Darrell McKown on Dec 27, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
I doubt Vlad
gets 9. I’m sure they would have exercised his option if they were willing to pay him 9.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
That seems high to me as well
But I’ve heard that number quoted a few times, so I dropped it in.
I think it was pre-wired that they weren’t going to exercise the option in any event, so I’m not sure that has any impact on it, though.
by Darrell McKown on Dec 27, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I am now convinced...
The Rangers payroll is built to be around $80 at start, with room to grow at the trade deadline… Wouldnt be surprised if CJ gets extended though as I said before, although it wont make much difference on his 2011 salary.
by FormerLSBUser on Dec 27, 2010 12:38 PM CST reply actions
hopefully CJ will get extended, i'm not optimistic tho
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Seems like a great deal to me.
Considering that the ownership was talking about the possibility of spending up to 40 million this offseason, I’d say this is quite a bargain if he becomes a serviceable pitcher.
by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Dec 27, 2010 6:11 PM CST reply actions
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