Thursday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2010 9:19 AM CST
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Okay, let's start out with the Ranger acquisition we know about for sure...
Texas has acquired Mason Tobin, who was picked by the Chicago Cubs in the Rule 5 draft from Anaheim, in exchange for cash. Tobin was a 2007 draft pick who threw less than 40 innings in 2008, threw 2 2/3 innings in 2009, and didn't pitch last year. He's righthanded and 23. My assumption is that he'll get a look in spring training, start the season on the d.l., then the Rangers will try to run him through waivers and see if they can work out a deal with the Angels to keep him.
Moving on to stuff we don't know for sure about...
The Yankees have reportedly offered Cliff Lee a seventh year on their deal. No one knows the details on the offer, and it can work a number of ways. For example, Kevin Millwood's contract was announced as a five year deal when he signed with the Rangers, but it was really a four year deal with a vesting option -- they just structured it as a voidable fifth year rather than a vesting option so that Millwood could claim he got five years. New York could have simply added a seventh year at the same annual salary the rest of the deal is at, or they could be doing something else.
Regardless, we've known all along the Yankees would offer more money for Lee than the Rangers. And if Lee is just looking for the biggest possible contract, he won't be signing with Texas...he'll sign with the Yanks.
Jeff Wilson writes that the Rangers are waiting to hear from Cliff Lee, and want Lee to tell them in their next conversation what it will take for him to sign with Texas.
T.R. Sullivan has quotes from Nolan Ryan about the situation.
Evan Grant says the Rangers have a plan with Lee.
Grant also has a blog post up in which he says that, if Lee wants seven years, the Rangers have to pass, and suggests that the Rangers make a deal with Tampa for Matt Garza, offering Tampa their choice of:
1) Martin Perez or Tanner Scheppers
2) Jurickson Profar or Luis Sardinas
3) Chris Davis, Julio Borbon, Derek Holland, or Alexi Ogando
Personally, I think that is way overpaying for Garza...I don't think he's worth Perez, Profar and Holland.
Richard Durrett has notes from the end of Day 3 at the Winter Meetings.
Jon Daniels says that Michael Young is unlikely to be traded, and the rumors surrounding him are the result of teams asking about him.
Gil Lebreton says that, while the focus is on Cliff Lee, the Rangers also need to deal with their DH situation.
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those are stupid ideas. And his groups don’t include equally valued players.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Jurickson Profar or Luis Sardinas
is not exactly, “Which statue?”
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
I think you are highly underrating Luis Sardinas.
Everyone here does. Profar is the flashier name and probably the better player right now, but if you’ll recall, the ProfoSex mentioned multiple times that Sardinas may be the better prospect when it’s all said and done. Less boom/bust potential and a safer bet to reach his ceiling, which may not be all that much lower than Profar.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Although, him missing this season (or most of it) should tip those scales back to SOJaC
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Maybe so
But how do you think other teams view him? If we were to go to any of the 29 other teams and offer them a trade proposal that asked them to choose between Profar and Sardinas, how many would choose Profar?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Probably all of them, I think I said that.
He is the flashier name and probably the better player right now. That may not be true after Sardinas comes back from injury and develops more or Profar flames out.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
So, then,
it isn’t irresponsible to say that Profar is a more highly regarded and valuable prospect right now…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Probably depends on the time horizon you're using.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Sure.
I’m speaking of trade values. Valuing prospects as players is way over my head, which is why I usually keep quiet when that stuff comes up.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
So STFU already!!!!
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
you too, friend
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
I wanna be Lucky Pierre!
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
I underrate Sardinas because his name makes me think of smelly fish
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Dec 9, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Arod is the centaur in the background
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
That's more than we gave up for Lee
More than the M’s or Phillies gave up for Lee.
More than the Phillies gave up for Halladay.
More than the Angels gave up for Haren.
I’m trying to figure out what the last package that big given up for one player was.
The Teixeira trade?
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
I think part of this has to do with how you value Holland
because it seems weird that he’s included on the list with Davis
look im probably the last person on the davis bandwagon
but of davis, borbon, holland, ogando which one doesnt fit with the others?
…come on EG
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
of those 4
Ogando sticks out. why? he’s 26, and the other 3 are 24 and under.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
i was going to say davis
who had little to no value comapred to the rest
borbon has value to someone (still hoping he is the starting CF for the rangers this year)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Holland, Davis, and Borbon
are all 3 very similar. They are all young, they are all talented, and all 3 have struggled at the big league level.
Davis has big time power. Borbon has big time speed and range. and Holland, well.
I’m betting that Holland is going to be the one to take a step forward this year.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
yea
holland
borbon
davis
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
heh there were breaks in there but they didnt go through
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
I'd give up that package for Greinke if and only if he signed an extension.
I wouldn’t give up any of the three major players in that deal for Garza.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I'm wondering if even that's steep for Greinke
And I would give up one of the three for Garza but not all of them.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Start by taking out Perez/Scheppers.
Then I’d at least consider a package, but even then, it’s debateable.
That would never happen
Profar and Holland wouldn’t be enough to get Garza. The Rays have no real reason to trade Garza. He’s under team control for 3 more years.
wouldnt?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
The Rays
are looking to cash in on Garza and build for their next run starting in 2012 or 2013.
Now is the time to deal him.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I get that.
But they aren’t just going to deal him for the best offer on the market now. They can keep him and deal him any time over the next 3 years.
Garza is 27 years old, under team control for 3 years, and has been very good for three straight years. He should command more than Holland and Profar.
You underestimate Holland and Profar
Holland is 24, and has shown the ability to get big leaguers out, has great peripherals, and is pretty healthy. and Left handed. And can throw in the mid 90’s, with great secondary stuff.
Profar is going to be 18 this year and will start the season in full Season ball. and he can hit and play defense at shortstop. (plus 28 Walks in 288 PA’s last year.)
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Disagree on 'pretty healthy' but agree overall
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
22 starts, 4 relief appearances
132 innings. he was hurt early, but I think that was it. he was also pretty damn good last year. as in, less than a hit per innings, more than 2 stikeouts per walk, less than a homer per 9.
a full year of that and he’s getting into CJ territory.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
22 starts?
You combining Minors and majors?
He got hurt in June I believe and missed a couple months
Holland/Profar
I believe very strongly in Holland. I just don’t think Profar is enough to add on to the deal to get this done. Profar is just too far away. Perhaps I underestimate his trade value, I just see way too much bust potential.
If I’m the Rays I don’t want to give up a proven starter, Garza, for an unproven guy like Holland and a guy way down in the minors like Profar. I feel like they can do better.
I just looked into Garza's numbers a bit more
I think I may be overestimating his ability. I was thinking he was in the 12-18 range in WAR in the AL. He’s more in the 20-30 range over the last 3 years.
My untouchables
are Perez and Profar.
and I don’t put Scheppers in anything less than a Greinke deal.
Garza for Kirkman, Erlin and another couple of marginal prospects is ideal.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
i dont know why you would trade for garza unless you were 100% sure you couldnt get greinke
or had decided not to go after him
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
This is kind of what I think.
Why lessen our bank with a dude whom we already have a couple of if we can pay big to get Greinke, but may not be able to land him with what’s leftover after we acquire Garza?
yea i really dont want to see us trade for garza at all if it costs any more than say ross
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
This is pretty unrealistic
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
well yes
i dont want them to go after garza unless its a last resort kind of thing
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
If you're looking at a different pool of prospects between the two
Why not? Greinke fronts, Ceej/Colby/Garza form out the middle, and then you have whoever’s left over as the #5 (Feliz or Holland or Hunter or, hell, Omar Beltre or Brandon Webb)
This also assumes Lee is a goner, but, I’m saying that check isn’t written just yet.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
if yo uwant to go for garza AFTER grinke im ok w/ it
i just dont see why you take a chance that the royals want a guy you just traded…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Garza
You go after him if you cant get Greinke or Nolasco
I’d target Nolasco way before Garxa
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
im with you rentzington
greinke
nolasco
garza
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Looking at the numbers side by side
I actually think I prefer Nolasco considering the possible prices.
Good K9 and BB9, that insanely high babip would come down too you’d think
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
i wonder what the price for nolaso is going to be
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Same
I would wager it’s lower than what the Royals want for Greinke, but Greinke has more leverage so I don’t know
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
idk if greinke is in a hurry to get the hell out of dodge though...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
I don't understand the logic
Of an 18 year old being untouchable.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Same here.
I agree that we can’t just trade him away for anything. But I don’t understand people being unwilling to part with him if we get Greinke in return. By the time he is actually an everyday player in Arlington (if he ever gets there), there’s a good chance the Rangers best window of opportunity will have already passed.
by michael bluth on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
And that Josey is
likely dead.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
i dont think you give perez, holland, profar for greinke
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
That would be really high.
Ugh, I don’t know; would the Roylas want Holland and Perez? Seems like you’d swap one of them for Scheppers or someone. Different strokes, sure, but that’s a lot of LHP.
eh i dont think thats bad for them
if you have a surplus of LHP you can always move one
id take holland over scheppers 7 days a week though. i want scheppers OUT of the org ASAP. injury concern scares me a ton
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Well the injury concern is how we got Scheppers at all.
I think everyone in the league is concerned about him.
oh yea
and its why i dont expect him to be traded
i just want to see em put him in the pen from day 1 and keep him there
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Exactly
I would make Perez, Holland, and Profar untouchable in the Garza talks. Evan’s gone nuts, I you offer those three to KC, it’d be a done deal
2010 Texas Rangers: AL Champs (winners of the only real league in the majors)
by Baseball North on Dec 9, 2010 9:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly may as well go after grienke..
No way we should gave up Perez for Garza, no way. The Rangers don’t wanna for Grienke why would they Garza?
I wouldn't give up a single one of those 3 for Garza, much less all of them.
That’s just ridiculous.
Id really like to hear Evan Grants justification for this
there is no way even he can find logic in that proposal
Josey Wales is stupid
The Winter Meetings really just piss me off.
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
Matt Garza trade
If the Rangers trade anything even remotely close to that for Garza I’d be extremely upset. That is the kind of deal that I’m not even comfortable being made for Greinke, let alone Garza.
And as far as a trade proposal, how did this happen?
3) Chris Davis, Julio Borbon, Derek Holland, or Alexi Ogando
Who sees that list and takes Chris Davis? How did he wind up being lumped in with those other three.
the Rays need a 1b to replace Pena
or do they play Zobrist there?
Thank you Cliff Lee!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
If they took Chris Davis over Holland/Borbon/Ogando for that reason
They should be contracted.
Chris Davis isn’t worth of being given a starting 1b job, especially for a team legitimately competing in the AL East.
They may end up getting contracted anyways.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Fuck the Yankees.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Dec 9, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
So Greinke time one would assume right?
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
If the Rangers real Plan B is to rely on a trade
then I think there will be a lot of disappointment. At least – I don’t think we’re getting any of these big names.
I just hate watching Matt Garza pitch.
He take foreverrrrrr. Working 8 of his starts a year would drive me crazy.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
The biggest thing I like about Lee is how quick he works
nothing is more annoying than pitchers that take forever
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Yep
I always remember the game where he and Navarro got into a fight in their dugout.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
clubhouse attitude seems to be a big deal for the Ranger
(or any team, i’d imagine)
but he’d seem destined for Padillaville or Ponson City.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
It would be just like having Vicente Padilla back!
by LSJ on Dec 9, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
without the orange lambo...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Yeah, I really don't get the talk of a Garza trade
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
But, but....it would give you more time to participate in the GDT's!!
Think about us!!!!!!
2010 was awesome.
no kidding, what a selfish jerkface.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Not nearly as upset by this news as I thought I would be
though that likely has to do with the rumors of 7 years. If it ends up being a 6 year deal and we aren’t in I will still be disappointed. With 7? Not so much.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base." - Dave Barry
This, exactly
At 6 years, I was like, “well, that’s kinda long, but you have to do it if that’s what it takes.”
7 years? Welp, nice knowing you, have fun in New York.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Yup....5 years was fine....6 years was a stretch.....7 years is insane......
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
Can you imagine the cloud of negativity this contract could provide?
"Every noble work is at first impossible."
Yet, here I sit....wondering if I wouldn't increase the years and/or money.......it makes me sick thinking of Lee as a Yankee...
I can’t imagine what’s going on in JD, Nolan and Chuck’s heads right now…..
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I know what you mean
I have to type these “Don’t Do It!” responses so I can convince myself!
"Every noble work is at first impossible."
Pretty much
6 years is a big risk, but you do it to get years 1-3/4 in the middle of a run.
7 years…. not so much
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
That haul for Garza is just stupid.
I think for Greinke, i’d be upset with it but could find it in me to accept it, provided we keep one of holland/perez (preferably perez).
So, my offer to KC: Beltre, Profar, Holland, one night with Rally Salma.
Move Feliz to rotation
Greinke
CJ
Colby
Feliz
Hunter
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
replace hunter w/ holland pls
Holland needs to get his shot in the rotation all year.
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
pretty smart
for crawford not to wait for lee to get signed. the yankees would need him less once they signed him, decreasing his value. well played
wonder if the yanks said something to scare off crawford
like “lee will be a yankee at any cost, you are the next piece, but we are going to be reasonable”.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
talk radio
said he had steak dinner with the yankees tuesday night and they told him they gotta take care of lee first.
am i the only one who would wonder why they would pay that much for crawford when they have gardner?
who is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper and probably a 4.5 WAR guy (vs 6ish for crawford)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Junior Miller had an interesting analogy this morning
Said the Lee deal was like negotiating for a house. You say I’m not paying anymore than 120,000 dollars for that house. All the sudden, you look up and you’re so worried about being able to say you won the bidding you paid 150,000 for the house. We’re getting into that territory here with Lee. I would enjoy some posturing though to see how high we can make the Yankees go in order to sign Lee because despite what he says, I can’t imagine C.C. being happy as the 2nd highest paid guy on the staff…
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions
am i the only one who thinks he is going to opt out?
even though he said he wouldnt…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
he = CC
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Depends on how ridiculous it gets
I could see it happening though. That’s why I say the Rangers just keep posturing and see how high they can get the Yankees to go.
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't arod say he wasn't opting out too?
It makes no financial sense for cc NOT to opt out.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
unless he gets hurt
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
It's spot on...
because I’m sitting here thinking (despite my better judgment) “Should they offer 7 years? Should they increase the money?”…just another reason I’m glad I’m not a GM…..
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
I think the Rays take that in a heartbeat if offered
that deal would be extremely lopsided – JD would never do this.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Bubble
With all of these outlandish contracts, this market is a bubble economy. Don’t get caught up in the panic. Best to stay out of the way and let it pop on the other guys.
I just heard it reported on The Fan
that JD was quoted as saying The Rangers are not in on Rafael Soriano. I’m not sure who the guest was, but he’s at the meetings.
by jam0152 on Dec 9, 2010 9:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions
The 7 Year Bitch
will last so long if match that. I don’t want to listen to people discuss Lee’s contract for the next decade.
"Every noble work is at first impossible."
Well, Wilson and Lewis could regress
Most likely Wilson.
by LSJ on Dec 9, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
And so might Garza.
Any fluctuations are always possible. Always, sure. But going on what we’ve seen, CJ and Colby are better pitchers than Matt Garza.
+1
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Sure
Garza might be the best of the 3 in 2011.
But in terms of expected 2011 performance, I’d put Garza behind the other two.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 9, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Adam...we were talking about the Red Sox last night and whether or not
they’ve really improved themselves.
They were so beaten down with injury last year that it’s difficult to compare what they did last year to what they may do in 2011.
The team I compare them to is the 2009 team that won 95 games.
That team had a healthy Youkah, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Drew, JBay, Beckett, Lester, Paps, Papi and Buchholz was just getting his feet wet. Nick Green was their SS.They went 95-67.
They didn’t have Beltre (Lowell played 3B) and didn’t get VMart until August.
To that 2009 team, they’ve basically subbed AG for Lowell (Youkah moves to 3B) and Scutaro for Green. They’ve also subbed King Carl for Bay. Buchholz has taken a huge step forward while Beckett may be in some kind of decline.
The World Series is a crapshoot so for now, I’ll hold off on that prediction but I think the Red Sox are poised to win 98-102 games in 2011.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Daddy
please tell me I’m smart…
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I think it is.
Unless CJ or Colby seriously regresses.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
It should be
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Grant's opinion on Lee's approach....
he fact of the matter, though, is that Lee is 32 and with no discernible dominant out pitch.
Uh… Lee strikes out 7-8 per 9 IP.
Godspeed Mike Olt.
see
I disagree with this.
he’s got 3 out pitches. 1) the cutter. 2) the curveball. 3) the change
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
they're all plus pitches
HE SUCKS BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HAVE A "PLUS PLUS, PLUS PITCH!!!! Like a Gyroball or a fastball that explodes into a white-hot fireball!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Yeah
his curve is an out pitch. His change is damn good. His cutter can make people miss.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
The curve straight fucks people's worlds up.
When he can dip it in, that pitch is a thing of beauty.
sigh
I’m to the point where I don’t want to talk about how badass CLIFF LEE! is anymore, just in case he leaves. When I was in high school, I dated a girl that I really LIKED. Well, I started to get the hint that she might not be as jazzed about me, so I spent the next week convincing myself what a heartless bitch she was so it wouldn’t sting so bad when she broke it off (LSJ-style). That’s where I am with CLIFF LEE!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Gotta know...
what does that girl look like now?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Mustache, gristle on the thighs, three chins, axe-handle wide ass and a saggers
that she can juggle like a soccer ball or Cherry Valance plus 10 years?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
good lord you have a way with words, JW
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Yes, he does paint a picture
Axe-handle wide ass… wow.
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
that I wouldn't be able to tell ya
I haven’t seen her since high school.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
not good enough.
in other news, cruz shouldnt bat 4th because he was horrible in 20 PAs last year hitting 4th
/EG
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
wha?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
yea look up some of his past stuff
he came on here to defend it earlier this year…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
and then used his limited stats to support it
i think it was 17 PAs
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
You were trying to pin me down on what I would do to improve the team ...
what do you think our weaknesses/needs are and how would you address those?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
how would i address them?
at this point you hope to get lee. if you dont get him, you dont get him. no way i offer him 7 years @ 23 mm/year
i think you go after greinke hard, and if your “top offer” cant pry him away from the royals you move on to someone like nolasco and if you cant get him you move on to someone like garza.
i think you end up with nolasco.
then i think you move on to trying to get more out of your pen and bring in JP Howell (huge fan of Howell, even post TJ)
i think you roll with a rotation of lewis/nolasco/wilson + hunter/kirkman/feliz/holland
i think you sign manny ramirez to DH (rather see manny than vlad.) and you talk to russ martin and see what it would take to get him here.
i think you go with an andrus/kinsler/hamilton/cruz/DH/FOTF top 6 in the order.
i think you end up with a bullpen of feliz, o’day, oliver, francisco, ogando, holland/hunter as you long guy (kirkman to AAA if he doesnt make the rotation) and put scheppers on the fast track to be in the pen ASAP.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
WHHHHYYYYY!!!!
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver
by TheDutchOven on Dec 9, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
why what?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I think there's a chance that team wins 90 games.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
i mean to me, thats the best option
you stay financially flexible for 2011 and can pick up some $$ at the deadline or someone who comes avaliable (grinke? nolasco?)
that all assumes you dont get lee. if you get lee i think that changes a lot and would change what i do as the rangers…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
And to me, that means we're running in place.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
not sure how this is a horrible thing
were not in the AL East.
this is a team that won the west last year and should win it again this next year…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Well you have consistently underestimated the Rangers
so you say 90 games and Im confident in 94-96
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Dec 9, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Based solely on my predictions?
The Influence Continues.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Only a true DA
would get excited because people think he is so wrong that when the predicts stuff they expect the opposite. And only a truly over the top DA would then coin a little catchphrase about it to constantly draw attention to it.,.
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
"So wrong." ?????
Struck out on the Rangers the last two years (it can happen) but this past year I said Tampa would win the AL East, NYY would get the Wild Card and that the Twins would win the AL Central.
The big prediction that earned me another stripe was saying the SFO Giants would go to the 2010 World Series.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Did it ever occur to you that nobody (besides yourself) cares about your pre-season predictions?
by michael bluth on Dec 9, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently you weren't here in 2009
when I said before the season that the Rangers were going …I think…. 74-88.
LSB spoke frequently and passionately that year. It was beyond obvious how much weight my predictions carried in here.
If you need another example, look at venturafearsnolan.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
These stripes you speak of
Do you have a little ceremony by yourself in your house where you award yourself said stripes and pin them on your powder blue 1980’s Rangers jersey?
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Now you're assuming he has a house.
All we know for sure is that he has access to a body of water he calls a “pool.” There’s a decent chance he lives in a van down by the river.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Nah. he has a house
well, he lives in a house, but its probably his mother’s house.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
we have a pool....and a pond
pond would be good for you…
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Now I'm going to equate Aquaman with that Windows phone commercial with the pond monster
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Is it just me
I saw those Windows phone commercials and thought to myself. Oh, that makes sense. Since having Windows on a phone would make me not want to use my phone for anything either….
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Don't know why josey replied here...
But is it possible Josey=EG?? Probably not… But it would make some sense… Just sayin’
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Dec 9, 2010 10:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
naw EG posts on here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
I've also ripped EG for putting on his journalistic knee-pads and servicing Tom Hicks in
every story he ever wrote about him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Dear John, (Daniels)
All I want for Christmas now is to dry my tears on Justin Upton’s fancy new Rangers jersey.
by blakethegr8 on Dec 9, 2010 9:39 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
How would you structure the outfield?
And would you trade Murphy?
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
Me personally?
I don’t buy into the idea that Josh is more likely to get hurt in center, so probably left to right Upton, Josh, Cruz, w/ Murphy rotating in while one of them DHs. Also, resurface the walls with memory foam.
by blakethegr8 on Dec 9, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That would be cool, but you're probably killing any chances of adding a pitcher via trade if you do that.
I want BJ Upton.
by LSJ on Dec 9, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
FUCK. NO.
not BJ upton.
i wonder how close an offer of perez, holland, profar, ??? is to what they want for upton
i assume not anywhere near enough to trade for him but….
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
for justin?
throw in Joe Saunders and you have a deal.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I'd do it.
But I love me some Justin Upton.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I think I would too
Beltre & Profar are still so far off that I don’t bat an eye throwing them in for someone like Upton. My real concern would be Perez and Holland, but I’d do it.
I don't think they could get that for BJ.
They’d get something nice, but he’s getting expensive, only has 2 years left (I think, maybe it’s only 1) and 2007 was 3 years ago.
by LSJ on Dec 9, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
I think JD gives out Hannukah presents
fyi.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Agreed with all posts on Garza above
He is a nice young pitcher and would be a nice addition to our staff for years to come. In NO way do I give up anything that involved Perez AND Holland, plus Profar.
Wouldn't the rays want either positional prospects or low level pitchers back?
Their rotation is already full and they have Hellickson waiting in the wings. I don’t know if they would necessarily want/need a young arm to step in right away.
Per Jerry Crasnick's Twitter:
The Rangers are sending a contingent to Little Rock, Ark., today to meet with Cliff Lee and his agent, Darek Braunecker
Still got a shot.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
If the 'Six years and I'll sign with the Rangers' thing was true
I think it happens.
Silly? Sure, maybe.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
That was before the Yankees offered 7
Then again we still don’t know what that 7yr offer is.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
"So you're telling me there's a chance..."
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
You chose Kordell fucking Stewart over the original Hail Mary himself...
Roger Staubach?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Dec 9, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Leave LSB
and never come back
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 9, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn
I was just joking
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 9, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
I'm in my three-point stance and not jumping off-sides......
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Is just a stupid question or the stupidest question every asked on LSB
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not a Cowboy fan...in fact, when Staubach was doing his thing I was
a LA Rams fan.
Roger Staubach was a bad, bad motherfucker and the best player the Dallas Cowboys ever had.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
My Dad always said Staubach was an average qb until the last 2 minutes
Then he would turn in to an all-world QB.
Thank you Cliff Lee!
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 9, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
With all due respect...
Your dad is retarded. Staubach was a BAMF all the time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Roger was related to Kurt Wagner?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Well
Its kind of a toss up between him and Lilly.
Bob Lilly was something else.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
LOL
can’t overrate Staubach.
They put the hole in the roof because God didn’t want to miss watching Staubach play.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Staubach was the gamechanger.
They didn’t win Super Bowls until he became QB (they won with/without Lilly).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Gagreed
Give me Danny White.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Ask and ye shall receive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMN1HfQaE5o
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
The pass (and Staubach for that matter)
were better than anything you’ve heard about them…..my favorite QB of all time…..
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
go look it up. NOW
before you post here again.
watch it. then remember the context
then watch it again.
One of the top 10 football plays of all time. Set the standard for what to do when you are desparate. Not quite Stanford band or Music city miracle, but right up there with them.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
hahahahaha Aqua...
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
On Staubach's hail mary pass
Drew Pearson committed offensive pass interference. Yes or no?
by BEW on Dec 9, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Nope...Nate Wright looked back at the same time
DPearson (who had deked him into looking early) put the most subtle of all basketball moves on him that created separation at the perfect time.
Pearson had also deked a Redskin DB into looking back early in the Thanksgiving game where Longley threw a last minute TD in ’74.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Pearson was greatness alright
Should be in the H of F
by BEW on Dec 9, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Part of the contingent includes a Brinks armored truck filled to the brim with gold bars and gift certificates to Cavenders.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Dec 9, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
and a lifetime supply of meat from Nolan
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
and Advil?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
and foundation repairs....
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
AND MY AXE!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
AND MY BOW!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
you mean trident?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
Right, that's what I meant.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
just making sure
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
No need to let them know until the proper time...
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
and Misty May in her volleyball outfit.
by Rohn Warshington on Dec 9, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Leave her at home.
That would make me not want to sign.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
and Rally Salma
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
This would do it for me.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Who could say no to this?
I’m sure she would straddle Cliff like that, then he would look over at Mrs. Lee who responds, “It’s OK honey, I want to watch.”
Boom Cliff Lee is a Ranger for the next 6 years.
No need for the truck
Simpson should just give him a 1/32nd Override on his barnett shale interest.
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
In and under or produced?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Start with produced
if he doesn’t bite, go in and under
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
You're talking some serious shit there.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
XTO has/had large holdings in the Fayetteville shale
perhaps he would be more interested in that.
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
Honestly...
…I’m not sure it’s over. You’ve got to hope Cliff honestly prefers Texas to NY, and that as long as the Rangers are close to the Yankees’ offer, he’ll take it.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
It has to be said.....
“Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
Germans?
Forget it, he’s rolling.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
LET'S DO IT!!!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
tbh in August I would say no way he prefers tx..
But this is a guy with few words and when he did speak, you could see him slowly but surely warming up to texas and playing here. I truly believe if anything was equal he would choose us.
But we know this is not always how it works and money talks and depending on how crazy the Yanks offer is, he would be crazy not to take it and feel the wrath of the union. We have to come close to truly have a chance.
already discussed this
can’t be done except with special approval from Bud Selig
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
that sucks
f-ing Bud Selig ruins everything
there was a past example
that went horribly awry. if we add the NTC though, don’t see what would stop selig from approving, besides the fact that he’s bud selig.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
If I was JD...
Said contingent would be himself, Nolan, Chuck, Simpson, Davis, and every teammate they could gather who wants him back next year. Just basically lay it all out on the table and not leave until you either get a signature or a firm no.
Contingent
Id simply bring Nolan, Greenberg, JD, CJ Wilson, and Josh Hamilton. Tell Lee that once you sign with us we are immediately extending Hamilton and Wilson.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Dec 9, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
In other news
Nolan Ryan gets Cliff Lee in a headlock during talks. Lee is now a Ranger at a contract of 10 yrs at 1 million dollars per and all the snow monkeys he can handle. Years 2-10 are team options.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Dec 9, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
The plan
1) Knock on CLIFF LEE’S! door
2) When he answers, throw a burlap sack on his head
3) Fly back to Arlington
4) Destroy American League and win World Series.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
For the life of me
I cant see a hole in this plan. Let’s do it!
by BEW on Dec 9, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Newberg on The Fan at 10:15....
talking ZG and stuff….
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions
Zack Greinke.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
no
who’s this newberg character?
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
Maybe, "DFWAg."
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
thats a fake name if i have ever heard one
i mean whose last name if dfwag ? thats just random characters! hwo do you even pronounce that!!!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
It's pronounced "Dif-wag."
His family is Polish.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
got it
thanks
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
ITS A REAL NAME I PROMISE!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
No one uses
Their real name on LSB. Its just not prudent.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
heh
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
they don't
oops….
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
"Aqua" "Man"
I still giggle at that…almost like he doesn’t understand the concept of usernames on the internet
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Oh i thought he was going to talk about Zack Galifinakis
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Ok someone please clarify this for me
As I understand, if the Yankees offer a true 7 year deal, and we offer 6, with about a 25-30ish million difference in total $, and Cliff were to accept ours – the players association would flip the F out? Why should they care if Cliff were to do that?
because it's the players union
they have some strengths and uses, but picking between contracts for players shouldn’t be one of them
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
MLB has the strongest players union around...and I hate this!!!
Bottom line, the Union doesn’t care about the overall circumstance, they just want to report the highest dollar amount. If the union is who gets in the way of Lee signing with the Rangers, then I could very well be on my last straw with pro sports.
For the record, Unions have a place…but as far as big time entertainment…they have overstepped their usefullness and thus I find myself being ANTI-Union. Actually, I believe it’s time for Owners of MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL and MLS to join together and form and Owners Union…let the unions fight each other and see what happens.
The leagues kind of are the owner's unions
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
corrected for ya!
The leagueskind ofare the owner’s unions
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
I disagree...the leagues are the leagues...
but in reality they are nowhere near a union…heck the players unions keep taking owners to court for “Colution” (SP?) how crazy is that?
The owners are people just like the players and deserve a uniting force to stand up for them. This is why i would want to see all owners of NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL and MLS come together as an Owners Union. Can you imagine the fallout if owners the NBA were to lock out their players due to a greivance, the all owners were to lockout players in solidarity…imagine the battles between Players Unions and Owners Unions…which Union would you support.
This is about the game, not about owners or players…both sides are wealthy beyond measure and as a result aspects of greed are effecting both sides. In reality it is the Unions who have created this monster and it would take another Union to fix the monster.
Perhaps with this, they could implement a real salary cap…not only a cap but a minimum team budget. Forget Dollar figures, use % to determine the min/max for teams to spend.
Establish a luxury tax, similar to the NBA for teams who exceed the max, but also institute a sever penalty for teams who don’t spend the Minimum
Make it something like a min of 50% and a max of 70%, using the Average revenue for the league. This would force the low tier teams to change business practice and figure out how to make money or risk losing in more ways than one. This would also keep teams in an obviously clear big market (NY, LA, Bos, etc…) from overly outspending the smaller market teams.
For the league to flourish, they need all teams to be competitive…otherwise, you will have bottom feeders who will eventually fold and then the league becomes less interesting on a National scale.
Think about it, do the Yankees want to turn into the Globetrotters of Baseball…they need the other teams in order to actually have a league.
This is similar to the NFL when they put in a Cap…a large part of the cap was attributed to the Dallas Cowboys and for that matter Jerry Jones is one of the first to actually support the NFL Salary cap. He recognized that the Cowboys could outspend the entire league, similar to the Yankees…but he also recognized that for the league to flourish others had to be able to compete…the result, the highest ratings and revenue that the league has ever experienced and no doubt they dominate the American Sports Market.
Baseball would head to follow such a plan, thus an Owners Union could help all the leagues form some good strategies that would enable all, players and owners an opportunity to get even wealthier than they already are.
uhh i would disagree about this part totally
This is about the game, not about owners or players…
uhh…..
Perhaps with this, they could implement a real salary cap…not only a cap but a minimum team budget. Forget Dollar figures, use % to determine the min/max for teams to spend.
Establish a luxury tax, similar to the NBA for teams who exceed the max, but also institute a sever penalty for teams who don’t spend the Minimum
why would teams like florida (loria) vote for a minimum salary cap? i really really REALLY doubt this happens.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Adding a floor would have more opponents than there would be proponents for a true cap.
Plus, proposing a floor would require more revenue sharing. ‘Hey, Yankees, you need to cut down to 120 million a year, and also you need to give Oakland 23 million dollars.’
‘… No, that doesn’t mean just for your rotation.’
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Collusion
The players took the owners to court for it because the owners were guilty as hell. They lost three separate judgments in the late 80s/early 90s and paid millions in damages. In fact, the approval of the Marlins’ and Rockies’ franchises was largely so the owners could recoup their losses through the new teams’ ownership fees.
The no-collusion clause goes back to the late 60s, when Drysdale and Koufax worked together to negotiate new contracts. The owners didn’t like that, and demanded that a rule be put in the next labor agreement barring players from working in conjunction to get better deals. The players’ union agreed to the rule, as long as the owners were also willing to abide by it, which they also agreed to.
If you want a great read on MLB’s labor history, try John Helyar’s “Lords of the Realm.” You won’t have much sympathy for ownership after finishing it.
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
Yeah, good point.
The owners of professional sports franchises just don’t have quite enough power yet.
Why are we giving up on Lee?
I say go for broke…offer Lee a 6 year deal with a 7 year option…make it 6 years 130 Mil, + an option for 7 at 50 mil…make it a team option…over all it gets listed as a 7 year 180 mil deal, but in reality it sticks to the 6 years 130 mil.
Put in some added incentive…for example…finish 6 years of the contract and then finish Lee’s career with the Rangers and have a “Consultant” position with the Ranger organization for 10 more years. Or some type of post baseball career contract…something similar to Nolan Ryan when he played for the Rangers.
Now go out and work a trade for Greinke or Garza or some other front line pitcher.
Can you picture a rotation of LEE, Greinke, Lewis, Wilson and then a 5th starter to emerge from the arms that the Rangers have.
The fans would show up, the Ranger would turn into a Ratings gem and MLB would make plenty of money!!! It’s right there…It’s Time!!!
I might be inclined to throw him a 7th year vesting option
But it sure as hell wouldn’t be 50 mil, and it would be near impossible for him to attain.
Then why would he sign it?
But it sure as hell wouldn’t be 50 mil, and it would be near impossible for him to attain.
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 9, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
We should know very soon.....
The Rangers are sending a contingent to meet with Lee and agent Darek Braunecker in the pitcher’s hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas, tweets ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. This will mark the team’s third trip to Arkansas.
see mlbtraderumors.com
Godspeed Mike Olt.
Cliff wants to tell Nolan to his face that he's a Yankee
and Nolan decks him!
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 9, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
well, actually Lee does
but i see your point.
it’s usually the Yankees who are scrambling the private jet.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
If we don't sign Lee...
…I so hope this happens!
by Bats and Balls on Dec 9, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
Nah, JD is just going to make Cliff Lee say it to Nolan's Face
Cliff won’t be able to do and then he signs a contract with the Rangers and ticks off the Players Union.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Like when you got in trouble as a kid and had to go tell your dad?
“go ahead, tell him…tell him what you did..”
“don’t wanna”
“go on he’s waiting..”
Then Nolan’s like “Tell me boy or I’m gunna bust yer ass…”
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Yep
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
I love that everyone assumes Nolan is some kind of demigod action hero.
I highly doubt he is actually like that at all in conversation.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Nolan Ryan is almost equal to Chuck Norris
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
Almost?
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
You probably told little kids that there was no Santa Claus either
Didn’t ya. You just can’t let people have their little dreams.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe I did, and maybe I did.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Whoa!! Wait!!! WHAT!!! What's this about no Santa!?!?!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Shhhhhhh, it's ok.
Everything will be ok.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
It had better be.....
Cliff Lee signing with the Rangers is what I asked Santa for this year……
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
If you are trying to look anything up on Fausto Mier
his name is actually Jessie Mier
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
MASTA BLASTA
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
rule 5
doubt it was much…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
Especially considering the player
Mason Tobin has only pitched 22 innings in the last two years combined.
I haven't seen it reported yet
When is Lee’s ESPN special where he announces where he’s going to play next year?
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:12 AM CST reply actions
Did you have 10:12 CST?
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
i saw sunday night at 7
just after he gets out of church, and he waits till the end of the hour to say which team.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
This is probably the most on topic Morning Thread since the series.
Depressing morning thread, but on topic nonetheless.
Pretty sure
you just jinxed it. Commence food, beer, video games, and boobs talk…
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
That has its own thread
Plus this is boring down time in CFB. Stupid final exams…
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of off topic final exam discussions
I don’t feel like studying for my criminology final so I’m going to have myself a mob movie marathon because organized crime is on the exam.
Which crim course?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
It's just called Criminology.
It was kind of a weird class. Our professor just tells us his opinion. But I’d much rather watch The Godfather or GoodFellas than study.
That's.... pretty much what Criminology is, actually
Aside from some really good classes (worked one semester with one of the foremost experts on the old school Mafia, and one guy who spent a year hanging out with crackheads and dealers just to see what would happen) and some theoretical bullshit (Self Control Theory- Crime is Magic!) that’s Crim, nutshell’d.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
I'm not even sure what we were talking about before you said the word "boobs" to be honest with you.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
x
craigcalcaterra Craig Calcaterra
Rangers should just start screwing with everyone. Offer Lee 8 years/low money, knowing that Lee’s agent will shop it (absent the $) to NY
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I only make this comment because others probably believe the Rangers should actually do this
but the Rangers do not benefit much, if at all, from upping the price of FA’s for others – especially the Yankees.
The Yankees are not in the division and probably have unlimited pockets anyway. The Rangers would just up the price of FA pitchers that they might have a chance at next year (or even this year). This strategy made a bit more sense when it was the Angels going after Crawford but I don’t know that the tradeoff of making all of their assets more expensive to retain was worth it.
Yeah
The Rangers simply cannot harm the financial future of the Yankees by making the Yankees go to 6, 7 or even 8 years. They have unlimited pockets and this sort of tactic simply will not ever hurt them in any significant way.
Yet,
the Red Sox attempted it. Perhaps if everyone did it?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, at this point the Rangers are just helping Lee make more money.
Not crippling the Yankees in any way like I have seen implied a few times.
x
TBrownYahoo Tim Brown
Source: Rangers have not been told they’re out on Lee and will continue the fight.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
Southwest isn't on orbits
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
World Ending in 2012?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
my breath is fine.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
JD coming up on Ben and Skin
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
Listen to JD
benandskin Ben Rogers
#Rangers GM Jon Daniels joins us NEXT on 103.3 FM, ESPN. Spread the word, friend. #Yankees #NYY Cliff Lee Listen: http://tinyurl.com/yajrgot
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
too many choices!!!
newberg on the fan, or JD on espn
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
no brainer
JD in a heartbeat
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
+1
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
BOTH!! JD now at 10:30
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I listened to The Newberg and fought thru Newy.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
thanks for the link
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
LMAO
mlbtraderumors MLB Trade Rumors
Astros Reach Agreement With Ryan Rowland-Smith http://bit.ly/exgy1C #mlb
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
by texasrfan on Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Wait...is he even 27 yet?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
he is forever 27!
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
We need a LSB Memetionary
for those of us who weren’t around for the origins of these callbacks.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by DonDrapersOPS on Dec 9, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the appeal for LSB vets is that we all don't know all of them.
It’s kind of a secret handshake for them.
but i thought the secret handshake was touching dicks?
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Yeah, kinda figured that
Still, I feel like a dork when I see one and have to resist the urge to blurt out one I do know:
LSB Vet: “…he’s 27!”
Me: “Er, yeah….MANTIS!”
:^)
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by DonDrapersOPS on Dec 9, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
MANTIS BE PRAISED!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
all praise our mantis overlords
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
glad i missed out on mantis
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
haha
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
new #6org?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
FUCK!
Disband the franchise. We have no chance.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
as much as the news right now is depressing.....we could be astro fans instead
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Amazing.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
OMG my ears hurt
JD has been pushed back to 10:30 and they are throwing out we go 3 years 112 million for him instead of matching the 7 years the yankees offered
Screw it. 1 year for 80 Mil
That should get it done
by Heebs on Dec 9, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How do we make the page stop hopping with every comment posted...ya I'm an old geezer...
Alright, this is driving me nuts…I’m trying to read along, but when a new comment is posted the screen jumps to that comment…how do I disable that feature so that I quite getting interrupted as I’m reading? How can I click on the highlighted poster and go back to the post when i’m ready to read it?
I don't have it jump on me when I'm just reading a comment that I z'd or c'd to.
It’s annoying when I’m replying, though.
Ah, but if a big long post is made ABOVE where you're reading,
the change in the page does push the content you’re currently looking at down.
How about you just tell the Sun not to rise tomorrow?
Or the Cliff Lees! not to be Cliff Lees!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Aqua
I didn’t come here to fight, I came here as a NY’er who DOESN’T want to see him come here, and the page jumps when multiple comments are made. Knowing this, and seeing that others complained about page jumping, would it be that big of a deal to do it?
If you didn't come here to fight, then you may have missed the Angrydome sign.
Oh, it’s not there. Well trust me, you will need to defend yourself and thicken your skin son.
angrydome, FTW!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
needs allcaps....
ANGRYDOME!!!!!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
On Amazin Avenue booyakasha
Whenever I fought, they banned me, so I figured when I came here, I thought I would take a different approach. I’m not looking for a fight, but I think you get the point.
You have to REALLY piss somebody off to get banned here.
That’s not a license to go full retard or anything, but this isn’t Amazin Avenue or HH
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
There's only one way that I know of to be sure you get banned, and it doesn't even seem to apply to Sharky.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Naked pictures
of Adam’s Ex-wife? oh, wait, that probably would get you promoted.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
fantastic Newsradio reference
Always approve. Complaint Box is an all-time great.
It's never lupus
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Where at ?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Hmm.
K, thanks.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Sounds like she needs to go to the University of Minnesota, specifically
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Oh, this guy is from LOL
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
I don't want less comments
I want people to slow them down, so the page dosen’t jump. I know we are all here to comment. All i’m saying is that it’s annoying when i’m posting a reply, and the page jumps. Seeing as how the other options don’t work, slowing them down would be the best bet.
go here:
i have a feeling the commenters there may be a little more your speed…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
WINNER
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Good luck with that
Maybe you should have lurked a little longer. Lord help you if you show up for a Game Day Thread.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
he needs to go to the link i posted...
…and never return.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Was it really necessary
To say I should never return? I mean, i’m not asking for something unreasonable.
No offense, but you actually kinda are asking for something unreasonable.
LSB has crazy posting volume. If you think this is bad, wait until you find out that the same conversation spans across multiple threads.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Like the Great Hank Blalock War of June 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Auction.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Mike Leach OR
Bengie Trade.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
What about the 2010 Draft? High comedy.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 9, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Michael Young demanding to be traded may trump all.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
I'll be sure to go Dirkatron if TCU gets embarrassed at Pasadena.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 9, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing will ever beat the Auction.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Fuck Mike Leach.
That was a drop in the bucket.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
10-0 v Baylor
with a lot of severe beatings in the mix.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Objection: relevance.
Sustained.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
the Z key on my keyboard is visibly more worn out than the other keys
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
lisa
I’m not the only one who has posted about this on here. I also tried the other options with no success. I am just trying to find something that will work for everyone.
this works for 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of posters on LSB.
i fail to see how unchecking the auto update does not work for you…this should stop it from updating on its own and force you to update to see new comments.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
You want us to change the way we do things for you?
Good luck with that.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Yes you are.
How the fuck are we going to co-ordinate when it is OK to post something? “OK guys. I just posted something. Now wait 20 seconds before someone else posts something.” Fuck that.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
you are too funny
is this a bit? i hope so. otherwise you should stay away from the interwebs
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
1613 comments on nets SBnation page...
you sure hes a bit?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
I got the website wrong
but it’s not like he cares about what happens here.
It’s a bit insofar as he’s saying shit to make people mad, not because he necessarily wants it to happen
well then no more feedingthe troll for me
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Ditto.
But for the record, I did not really get mad. I was just fucking with him.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
Actually ab
I do care. If you go read my posts, up until this section of the thread, I was commenting on the proceedings with Cliff Lee. I made a simple suggestion that I thought was fair, and if you don’t like it, that’s quite alright. However, I wasn’t the first to comment on this issue, and I hardly consider that ‘’saying shit to make people mad’‘. Check Amazin Avenue. I tried starting shit, and it got me nowhere, so trust me when I tell you that’s not why i’m here. Why i’m telling you this is beyond me, since I owe you nothing, but I guess i’m telling you this so people don’t judge me off of what you say. Enjoy the Lee press conference, and I can say I was one of the first to say he was returning.
I'm impressed
It’s not hard to figure out that I go to the Nets page a lot, but to know the precise amount of posts is scary. I didn’t even know that.
If you mean the suggestion
No, I was dead serious. As i’ve repeatedly pointed out, I wasn’t the first to react to this, and yet my comments are the only ones being discussed on the matter. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.
yes. you are.
comment less, bitches!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
x
JeffWilson_FWST Jeff Wilson
Chuck Greenberg and assistant GM Thad Levine headed to Arkansas to meet with the Lee camp.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
getting the big boys involved
bout damn time
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
So is JD not going or is he already there?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Marc Malusis of WFAN in NY
Just said if the Rangers go 6 years, he stays. This guy is a Yankees homer to the highest degree, so what does that tell you?
interesting
ok, 6/$140. Match the yanks original offer dollar for dollar, no talk of this state tax stuff.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
Could be good news
And with Chuck heading up to LR, maybe he signs the contract!
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 9, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Tells me you that I want to know what lupo is.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Well Aquaman
I live in NY, am a Mets fan, but I was on the bandwagon the moment he came to the Rangers. Every other host up here keeps talking about how the only thing he cares about is money, and that NY tax is like ‘’cab fare’’, according to Mike Francesa. WFAN is the Mets flagship, and its overrun with Yankees fans who are hosts.
Well, I'm going to be brutally honest with you.
Fuck the Yankees.
And fuck the Mets.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Dec 9, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Are you not entertained?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
This is the only message
I’ve ever supported that originated in Mineral Wells. And I support it fully.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
I like the what will it take to make you a ranger approach.
if he comes back with something stupid.. tell him we cant do it.. if its 7/150… sign on the dotted line.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 9, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions
hell id pay 500 bucks to go hunting with those 3
but no..
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 9, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Vernon Wells is best friends with Michael Young, you know...
….but that didn’t make MY sign with Toronto instead of re-upping with the Rangers at a crippling rate.
sure
means something got shot. other than that, not as much as i think people are making it out to be.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
If it was Hunter on the gun this morning.
Something probably got shot but didn’t die and then was told “I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL YOU ARE, DEER!”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Hey, you're not allowed to reference stuff!
You have to explain everything!
Bunch of inside joke making snobs
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
It would mean something if he was hunting Moreland and Hunter
"Obviously you're not a golfer" -- His Dudeness
Perhaps Cliff Lee! wants an island where he can hunt the most dangerous game of all?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
he is a predator....
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
What do you suppose it would cost
to sign General Zaroff Aquaman?
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
He can't be all that busy.
What’s the going rate for a homicidal maniac these days?
$Dirkatron?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I'd sign Ivan also
as a personal catcher/enforcer.
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
I am guessing it means that Moreland, Hunter and Lee like to hunt.
But who knows that might be a reach. That being said, I would feel sorry for the tree if Hunter was in the tree stand.
The more I think about it
the more I can see a situation where the Yankees are really nervous that Lee is leaning towards Texas. Why the hell would you make a 6/140 offer and than trump your own offer without anyone else having made one?
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions
Good point....
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
Everyone seems to worried he’s getting ready to sign with the Yanks, I think in actuality he’s all but made up his mind that he wants to stay in Texas, and the Yanks are freaking out.
i can't wait to see Lee get the 8 year $180 that some thought Crawford could have fetched
and then CC opts out and demands to be paid.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
Still no JD on ESPN???
having trouble with reception….
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:39 AM CST reply actions
Just said he's coming up on the next segment.
My only problem with Ben & Skin is that I don’t know which one is which when they speak.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
This is some elaborate trick to force me to listen to ESPN Radio, isn't it?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Good God, I can't listen to this.
Somebody make a comment if JD ever actually comes on.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
No kidding....I can't believe I wasted an hour listening to Ben and Skin....
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
dismissive wanking motion
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Here we go again
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Presumably, the Rangers are looking to trade Michael Young to set up other stuff — Lee, maybe? Adrian Beltre, perhaps? Stay tuned.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
and on cue another 1000 posts on this topic pop up
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Like we could make 1,000 on-topic posts
More like 450 about MY, 450 about boobs/food/beer/nicknames for AJM, and 100 about Josey.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
We could probably make 1000 posts on the topic,
but only about 400 would be in this thread. The others would be scattered across all the other threads people were reading when they saw the news.
1000 posts
about boobs are ok.
better than 5 posts about CFB
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
The two things are not mutually exclusive.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I can't believe TCU is favored over Wisconsin and that LSU is
only a 1 point fave v A&M.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
No.
This is where we do prompt and thorough ignorings.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahah
Been awhile since someone cited a Vegas line as evidence of how teams match up. Vegas lines move based on bets placed, period.
Over Oregon?
Really?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
go to the CFB thread on the fanshots
please.
i want to actually hear your reasoning but go over there.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
hmm true
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
EAT A BAG OF DICKS!
you fucking douchebag.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
They would have to have Beltre in for-sure mode before they could give up MY.
Just no other legit 3B options for us that I can see.
I'm okay with that deal as long as the team is better
and it’s not just a salary dump.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
x
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Presumably, the Rangers are looking to trade Michael Young to set up other stuff — Lee, maybe? Adrian Beltre, perhaps? Stay tuned.
Where have I heard this before?
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Dec 9, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
already did
a few times actually
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
How ironic would it be if Lee Signed for over budget to the Yankees...and....
CC opted out…and the Rangers sign CC?
haha
not going to happen, but would be hilarious.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
That reminds me...
if a frog had wings he would not bump is Boras on the ground ;-)
CC takes a lot of upkeep.
You would have to double the lockerroom attendant staff to keep the buffet going and triple the food budget.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just because Bengie's gone doesn't mean they are gonna fire all the staff
by booyakasha on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I had to Wreck that one
Good Job
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I'd rather just sign Greinke or Josh Johnson.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
what did we offer last year for josh johnson at the trade deadline?
perez, sheppers & feliz?
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 9, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
make it
Perez, Schep, Holland, and Face this time around, see what happens.
This team do what it do ~ Ron Washington
I didn't see a reason to go out there 'n ack-a-fool ~ Ron Washington on the Ben and Skin show
I don't think it got to offer status
IIRC, it was more ‘Hey, now we got this Cantu thing sewn up, whacha lookin’ at for Josh Johnson?’
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
There was a report that we offered our top three prospects for him.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
oooooooooooo
I thought it was a ’We’re not moving him’ door-closing.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
i wish...
thats my pipe dream. fuck greinke.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think that's going to help his confidence.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Be careful with Olney
He was a Yankees beat writer before he went to ESPN, so he has to favor the Yankees.
Why does his past dictate his present?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I was thinking the same thing...
He was a Yankees beat writer beforehe went to ESPN, so he has to favor the Yankees.
FTFY
by booyakasha on Dec 9, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am also a Nets fan
Who went manic on the whole Bron free agency stuff. Even when the Nets had the best presentation, the ESPN guys who worked previously for the Knicks said they were the favorites, and this was all before Miami entered the picture. My point is you can’t trust anyone who says anything about a team he used to work for.
uhh what?
is he now on the yankees payroll?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
T.R.: The money man and teh contract man
http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/rangers_headed_back_to_arkansa.html
The Rangers have asked Braunecker to tell them what it will take to sign Lee. Greenberg and Levine aren’t going up to Arkansas to talk about the weather in Texas or the close proximity of Little Rock to Arlington.
They are going to try and make a deal.
Sounds like this trip was planned
before the Yankees made their 7 year offer.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
I agree Ghetto
They probably were told to fly down after the meetings, and wait for the Yankees offer, let them set the market, and get the deal done.
I don't know.
Has everybody read this? Sounds like they were caught a little unaware there.
Texas Rangers president Nolan Ryan was told of the Yankees going to seven years on ESPN’s “Mike and Mike in the Morning” Thursday.
“We have to be concerned about that because seven years for any contract is really stretching it out,” he said. “And I don’t know how you predict how anyone is performing six or seven years from now.”
Ryan didn’t say that seven years exceeded the Rangers’ limit, but he did say: “Everything has a ceiling that they have to understand what it is. And it doesn’t make economic sense after a certain threshold.”
Ryan was asked to gauge his team’s chances in light of the latest development.
“Well, you know, if the reports that are coming out are true, obviously that makes it more challenging for us,” he said, adding that he hoped to meet with Lee’s representatives Thursday.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
6/140
they’re not going 7. Chuck just wants to give Cliff a hug before he leaves forever.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
I tried to think of what it would be like to be in Cliff's position.
Let’s say you prefer Texas. Can you really justify leaving $20+ million on the table just for that preference?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Knowing that I'd have more than enough money
To do anything and everything I’d ever want to do and not have to live in that Shit Hole in the northeast. Yes. I could.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
The Red Sox are absolutely loaded for bear right now...I'm talking 4-6 years
with a core of AG, King Carl, Pedroia…oi vei. The Yankees are old and haven’t done anything (yet) to improve what they had last year.
Does Lee wanna go up against that (and Tampa) with a SS & 3B that are 36-39 years old or does it make more sense to stay in the AL West?
Offer him 6/138 and if he doesn’t take it, move forward.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
I think the Yankees
are planning on moving ARod to DH after Posada is done, shifting Jeter over to 3rd and bringing up a good defensive SS.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE, JOHN.
There is now a seventh year on the table from NY that he may or may not have considered.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Because there has yet to be a professional athlete to
leave that much money on the table.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I doubt his family will move there.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Becuase $20+ million is a lot of money.
And there’s the respect he probably feels he doesn’t get from being traded so much and seeing how CC gets treated.
And the Union probably forces him to take an offer that’s that much more.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Screw the Union
What could they possibly do to him? Besides, I doubt the offers will be that much different.
Unions gonna union.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
That's the point, you can't have it all here.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Not handsomely enough.
That’s the entire issue.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Tell me something
Is a ten or twenty million dollar difference that damaging to him? You’re telling me that that amount determines whether his family can live or not? Hardly.
If I remember correctly
Didn’t a certain future Hall Of Famer turn the Yankees down to take less, and stay with Atlanta?
B/c Cliff himself didn't say it
Someone said that he did
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Tampa's
gonna suck next year..
No Garza, no bullpen, no Crawford or Pena.
Its gonna be Evan and Price and Wade Davis.
OTOH, Toronto and Baltimore have some promise.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Tampa wins 85-90 games next year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Mark Reynolds with the swing and miss.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Does the Mark Reynolds comp also imply that when he gets a hold of one, it goes a long way?
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
No.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Oh thank God
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
If you say so.
Not that it matters. They’ll be a distant third in the division at 85 wins (or even 90 wins).
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I wait until the end of spring training to issue my predictions
so this is all fluid but I see the Red Sox as the Alpha Male in the AL East that will win 98-102 games.
The Rays are still young, talented and spunky but will take a significant step back…probably 85 wins, maybe more.
The Yankees are …I’m gonna say it…possibly veering towards the mediocrity of .500 depending on the Lee Situation. It’s an old team and no additions have been made. Gotta see it play out but I’m unimpressed with old teams trying to do a post-season 3-peat that have shitty pitching.
Orioes are better…gonna make a run at 75-80 wins.
Toronto takes a small step backwards.
I’m not ready to say that the Yanks are going 75-87 next year and fight it out with the Orioles for last place but I’m not going to dismiss it from happening.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Good thing those young, talented Rays have spunk.
by michael bluth on Dec 9, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
They also have a FO
that knows what the fuck they are doing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
When you say FO you also mean Nolan right?
by michael bluth on Dec 9, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I much prefer the current dynamic in the Ranger FO to
the previous regime…2006-2008 was as bad as it gets.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
He was referring to the Rays FO
of which I have no confidence in.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Not sure what to say about that but
Comparing the Yankees to the Rays, I see the Rays with questions now in the pen (big ones), first base, shortstop (supposedly trading Bartlet), and left field. to go with their problems at catcher.
I don’t see the Yankees having any other problems than their number 3-5 starters. (and with money to fix them.)
if the Yankees don’t sign Lee, wonder if they’ll try drinking the Pavano koolaid again. or would that result in a complete news implosion.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Tampa
- Still has the starting pitching staff in tact and they only gave up 649 runs last year. Yes, they need to fix the bully but that’s do-able. Having the starters are critical and they could deal Garza for things they stlll need.
- 24-28 year old players, Longoria, Upton, Rodriguez, Jaso, Brigniac are all between average to great. They will collectively get better.
- Desmond Jennings. What is he? Could be another very good player at that key age (24).
Yes, the Rays have taken a hit and may take a step back next year but they have a lot of good young players with post-season experience and I expect them back on the main stage quickly (by 2012).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Rodriguez = average, Jaso = average to good
Brigniac = average to good.
The great player is Longoria.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
And how can you say Brignac is average to good right now
He OPSed 692 last year mostly at the bottom of the order and if you say he plays good defense which pulls that up well then what about Borbon
From the time he got moved to the bottom of the lineup Borbon OPSed 689 and played equally as good defense.
Borbon spent most of the season with an OPS
centered around .570 and was just called out in the media by his manager for being stupid.
What do you see happening to Tampa next year (range of wins)?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Its impossible to know right now
They could fall to a .500 team or their young players could hit the ground running and they could win 90+. Right now its impossible to tell
yeah
that .917 OPS in June when the team was going well was an abberation. just like his .677 September.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Your 24-28 theory is the most idiotic load of shit I have ever read on this site.
And that’s saying something.
by michael bluth on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Check out the rosters of the ..
1968 Orioles
1970 Pirates
1970 Reds
1970 A’s
1973 Dodgers
1975 Phillies
1975 Royals
1975 Red Sox
1979 Tigers
1993 Astros
1994 Indians
1996 Braves
1996 Yankees
2002 Twins
2005 Phillies
Each one of these teams had good to great 5-8 year runs of being either a solid contender or an eventual champion.
The common thread to each one of these teams was that they had 4-5 members of their every day core (not counting pitchers) that were 28 years old or younger.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
And if you'd like to counter, Bluth...
…come up with 15 teams in the last 40 years that went on very solid 5-8 year runs that didn’t get their start around a core of young players less than 28 years of age.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Thumbs still up yer ass, Bluth?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
I've said this here before,
but an extra 20M 7 years from now would be much less of a factor for me than the ability to say “yeah, I got signed for 7/180M… no biggie…”
Yeah, that plays a role, too.
Athletes view these contracts as signs of respect.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
"Greenberg and Levine aren’t going up to Arkansas to talk about the weather in Texas"
Well, good. We don’t need to remind him of the TEXAS HEAT.
C'mon...Levine is there to take notes and fetch coffee.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
I like coffee.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Does Cliff?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
He dips his finger in it to sweeten.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
That's just his with right hand
If he put a finger from his left hand into it, it turns into Laphroig.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
/EG
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
guess torii hunter knows how it feels to say something
then do something else
F torii hunter.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
hes just mad because crawford is "real"
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
has not yet...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
EG is sticking to his guns on Twitter.
Just said to AJM that he’d do Profar, Scheppers, and Holland for Garza.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Somebody should ask him if he would trade that for Colby Lewis.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
good lord....he's overvaluing Garza by a ton
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Don't trade young, talented LH starting pitching / Danks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
mind = blown.
BLOWN
i want him to come on here and defend that.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
i mean my god...so much for garza.
at least nolasco could possibly be defended…but garza?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
mlbsecrets PRO Rumors
#Yankees new 7 yr deal to Cliff Lee is a annual salary than $23.3MM in a 6yr deal http://bit.ly/dmNKXE
Does anyone else think that was supposed to say “a lesser annual salary?”
Maybe they said 7/140-something?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
crasnick is reporting it
Sources told ESPNNewYork.com and ESPN.com that the original offer to Lee was for six years and $140 million. Another source briefed on the talks told ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick that the new offer is for less than the average ($23.3 million per year) of the original six-year offer.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I said 140-something.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
and there is this
Crasnick reports that the Yankees’ new seven-year offer has a lower average annual value than the $23.3MM of their previous one. So this offer could be worth less than Sabathia’s contract
A friend texted me that he's heard/seen 7/160M.
No idea if it’s true. I would imagine it’s close. That’s less than $23.3M by almost half a million a year, but it’s still in the same ballpark.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
So it's looking like a CC contract
that’s crazy talk
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Here
Just type in “Greinke.” Make sure you spell it right, that would be embarassing.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
There was once a time that you could have convinced me that #23 would have been retired here. Now it's owned by Craig Gentry.
Same thing for #30 right now. I say if Cliff Lee signs with the Yanks, we turn around and give #30 to this Tobin kid. You don’t want us? Fine, we’ve moved on.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
#30 belongs to Neftali Feliz...
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
i want JD.
…comethefuckon ben & skin.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Ya' know, he may be juuuuuust a bit busy right now.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
i am secretly hoping that this means he will be announcing a cliff lee signing!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Here's some whacked out shit while you wait.
Chuck should show this to Cliff and his wife at the meeting today.
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Dec 9, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Um no shit?
Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #Rangers requested meeting with Lee, plan to increase offer beyond five years. Story coming on FOXSports.com. #Yankees #Angels #MLB
THIS JUST IN
Rangers will knock on front door of Lee house; will try hard not to fart in living room.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
Probably not
But man oh man would that be sweet
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
You are a stupid person.
Shimpid, actually.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
5 and a half years!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Dec 9, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
there is an EPL thread in fanshots here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
eh im a fan of la liga myself...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
JD is finally on guys
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Sounds down...damn
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
Well?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Ah, thanks
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Holland versus Garza
The more I think about it the more I think I wouldn’t trade Holland for Garza straight up. Things just don’t add up.
Holland is 24, under control through 2015, on his rookie scale contract, and has major league/playoff experience.
Matt Garza is 27, under control through 2013, entering 2nd year of arbitration, cost $3M+ last year, has major league/playoff experience.
Is Garza that much better than Holland right now? Garza’s last 3 years in WAR (2.9, 3.2, 1.8). That is good, but is it good enough to give up Holland who accumulated 1.1 and 0.8 WAR in limited action the last two years? Extrapolating Hollands numbers over a full season, Holland would be worth about 1.5/1.6 WAR in the last two years respectively.
Changing my tune.
recap:
re: lee:
-want to have a decision “relatively soon” and it is in everyones “best interest”
-“we would like to have closure and clarity one way or another”
-“I understand he has options, so we are trying to prepare”
-though process behind visit: “especially when you are going up against the yankees…you know it is a significant challenge. if cliff had not played with us it is unlikely we would ever be in this situation” “we have nothing to lose at this point…want to get to whatever point we feel most comfortable”
-“we have alwaysplanned on putting our best foot forward”
re: yankees being involved with lee and the negotiations
-“you know what has been done before, so you knwo that might be a possibility”
-we can only concern ourselves with what we can do
-dont want the rangers to start reacting to what other teams do
-have gotten to this point by doing their thing (using diferent levels of resources)
-“dont want to do something that is not in our best interest long term”
re: multiple teams and FOTF
-“overblown the last few days”
-“people start calling”
-we had dialogue about him
-had people “kick the tires”
-obligation to the org and the fans to “improve” and if moving FOTF was in their “best interest” they would have to look at it
asked him about greinke and garza – how much interest is tied to if you get lee
-“not going to comment about specific part”
-discussesed adding a starter or two
-trades of that caliber are not that easy to make
-not as expenseive as a FA contract, but expensive in other ways
-“goal is not to bankrupt the system”
-want to improve the club but “has to work long term”
thad and chuck going to ark w/ a 7 year offer?
-“once this thing plays out we will rehash”
-“prefer to keep private”
re: locking up CJ
-“something we have to look at” – can be FA at end of year
-end of 2013 FAs are cruz, kinsler, murphy, hamilton
-“from a long term planning standpointw e have been looking at it”
-“look to address it this winter”
-“def something we have to look at and if it makes sense for both sides we have to look at it:”
regarding budgets/finances year to year — frontloading a contract, etc.
do the rangers have a set in stone budget?
-“have a model that has it laid out for the next few years”
-“some flexability to a degree”
-“its a business”
-“budget is north of where wer were the last few years”
-“not just this offseason, are opportunities all the way through”
-“not ttrying to win the winter meetings, trying to win the AL west”
last question: was there any reason nolan/JD didnt go to arkansas?
-“other obligations we couldnt get out of”
-thinks the lee family + agent will understand that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
The stuff about Young is quite telling, actually.
And I think he may very possibly be moved today.
by rockin_rangers on Dec 9, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
I just can't believe anyone will take that contract without the Rangers
paying like 10Million a year. So why do it?
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Ok so I exaggerate, but it will be a significant sunk cost.
HELL We paid the YANKEES of all team to please take AROD.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
these aren't the Hicks Rangers
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Although this is interesting
last question: was there any reason nolan/JD didnt go to arkansas?
-"other obligations we couldnt get out of"
-thinks the lee family + agent will understand that
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
well you kind of wonder....
what they could be?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Nolan had a denist appointment
and JD can’t leave town because there was no one to get up this morning and make the donuts
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
They may have just watned fresh people on it.
Nolan and JD have alredy gone; kidn of nice to have Chuck and Thad, I suppose?
young for blackmon?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
If the Rangers take along the deferred money...
I’m torn. If the Rockies keep the deferred money then yes.
Young for Carlos Zambrano
straight up. who says no?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
i just wish something happens today
btw this thread has everything (while staying on topic) ….Staubach, lupus, Gen. Zaroff, Salma, and criminology
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Not everything
No robots, midgets, or zombies today.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
best i could do.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
and somewhat of a midget...
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
You know, that's probably as close as it's going to get.
Well done.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Dec 9, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
ultimate showdown.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Pirates and ninjas, the war that will never end.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Zombies don't use tools.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
not with a monkey wrench
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
i just blacked out for 19 minutes
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
someone may have just divided by zero
holy hell i just stared at that for 10 min
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Cool, thanks.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
The biggest comment
end of 2013 FAs are cruz, kinsler, murphy, hamilton
I think that is the biggest consideration of all. Those guys have to be a huge part of the equation. If Lee signs, the club probably can’t legitimately think they can add another big FA and resign several of those guys. Aside from Murph, those 3 guys will likely be looking at a pretty hefty contract. I would love to know what their plan is for those 3 long-term.
Sadly, this is probably true.
All part of the “trying” process.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
eric's right
I meant he’s coming back to the Rangers. Nolan and JD know this, and are going about their other business.
You have got to be kidding
So, if Lee signs with the Yankees for 7 years, $160 million, that’s because Jon Daniels screwed up?
Go tell your momma to spank your ass because that’s retarded.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I've said we need to walk away from 7 years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
so why the "trying"
you’re just trying to rile people up, right?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Did anyone here know the Rangers tried to trade MY to the Angels???
At least MLBTraderumors.com says so.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
MY is from California
It makes sense that they would be on his approved trade list. It is well known that the Rangers do their due diligence. I’m sure the call was made to gauge interest.
That would be like the best thing that ever happened or could ever happen.
That would be better than Fenway Park getting nuked.
And I’d really like to nuke Fenway Park.
This comment started out poorly ...
went downhill in the middle, and the less said about the end the better.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
Interesting.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I've been to Fenway twice
amazing baseball experience. It seemed as if every fan in the yard was actually you know, paying attention to the game. No up and down 65 times every inning to get more nachos, hot dogs, and cotton candy. The ballpark is buried in an urban setting where you take a taxi or ride the subway. Great place to see a game.
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
My dad went to an ALCS game back in 98 at Yankee Stadium.
Said it was an incredible experience.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 9, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
never been there, but used to live in Wrigleyville...nothing better in the world....
although half of the bleachers are filled with drunk douchebags.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Didn't enjoy Wrigley as much
I felt a kind of I’m here to say I’m here and be cool vibe floating around. Also, the years of losing have caused the interested part of the crowd into having a how are we going to lose this one mindset…
"Calmer than you are dude"
I’m only slightly smarter than a sea sponge
by brettgardner on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 9, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
This comment is full of idiocy
The only way I’m nuking Fenway is if you’re in it.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 9, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
first comment on MLBTR
Why do they want to trade young?!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 9, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
If a rumor gets out in public
that means its dead
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
I think they'd pull the trigger on something if it made sense and made the team better ...
but I don’t think their actively looking to get rid of him. The only other option at 3B out there is the overpriced and enigmatic Beltre. It makes sense that he’d be getting attention from around the league. He only has 3 years remaining on his contract and even in a bad offensive year in 2010 he was better than what 2/3rds of the other clubs had at the hot corner. It’s going to take 5 years to land Beltre and while you can expect very good to great defense, you have no idea what he’s going to do at the plate—particularly in years 4 and 5 of the expensive contract he’s going to get.
I was as frustrated as anybody watching MY this last season. But looking at how other teams fared at third base, he’s still a pretty valuable asset and, contrary to popular belief, won’t be easily replaced.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
it also says that Morosi tweeted
Sources continue to indicate that chances of a Michael Young trade are less than 50 percent.
I suppose this could mean 0% chance as well, but when did the percentage max as high as 50?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
OH FUCK OFF
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
give them an A for effort. RT @jcrasnick Rangers sending contingent to Little Rock today to meet w/ Cliff Lee/agent Darek Braunecker
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
What's the point of that quip? I mean, christ.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
His other stuff didn't really bother me
but this is patting the head and telling the little solider to buck up type of stuff.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
at least name something he doesn't do regularly
Boras knows him all too well
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Fuck you with a rusty nail, Heyman.
Right in your hymen.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Anyone see Baltimore traded for JJ Hardy?
They are gonna be the best 5th place team in baseball next year
They're building a pretty nice core in Balt.
Jones, Wieters, Markakis, Hardy, Reynolds.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
Weird how you include
Hardy and Reynolds with the other 3.
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Those are def question marks but Reynolds is two years
away from hitting 44 HRs.
I’ve always liked Hardy but there has to be a reason he’s with his 3rd team in 3 years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
he's going to hit 44 HRs in two years?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
+1,000,000
The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.
Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT
Lee's agent responds!
Cliff Lee’s agent responds to Nolan Ryan: "That’s not the way the process works"
and…
We have no interest in participating in the unconventional negotiating style the club has requested. For the player to submit an offer to the club … that’s not the way the process works.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
its a true statement
i cant blame his agent or cliff for that.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 9, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
thats true.
does chuck respond with.. name your price?
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 9, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty much
Im sure Levine will be there to say their entire offseason revolves around him and they need to get moving with secondary stuff. If hes going to sign then name your price and either we meet it or we don’t and move on with our business elsewhere.
His agent obviously is saying what he should and is obviously looking for the most money. But once we meet face to face with Lee he may supercede his agent if he sees our sincerity and willingness to pony up the cash
You've hit on it!!!!
we need to bring in the BIG guns.
where’s William Shatner when you need him.
(OT. “The Negotiator” makes the third interesting character that Shatner has now played)
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Denny Crain and Kirk?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Denny who? or is that the guy from Boston Legal.
never watched Boston Legal. I was talking about TJ Hooker.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
check out BL - if only for Denny Crain
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Is Kirk that interesting?
- See something.
- Is it female? If so, sleep with it.
- If not, is it hostile? If so, blow it up.
Ever notice how
Every alien species ever encountered has hot looking human(ish) chicks in it? as if.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I think this probably is about as annoying to the Lee camp as the pushiness on the Yankees in this ordeal.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 9, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
It's not really a big deal
You always hear of players bringing offers back to teams, and i’ve heard the “What will it take for you to stay” before
Didn’t stevie nash do that? tell cuban what it would take, cubes declined and he left?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
7 years?! Shit just got real.....
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Dec 9, 2010 12:39 PM CST reply actions
Crasnick is reporting
That Cliff is waiting to make his final decision until he gets the Rangers best offer. Your thoughts?
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