Wednesday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 10, 2010 8:54 AM CST
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PrintRichard Durrett continues his look at the Rangers' positional situation with a piece on third base today. Michael Young is, of course, pretty well set there, and Durrett responds to those who question Young's defense by saying that, although his UZR and stats may not be that good, he only made 9 errors last year.
Ken Rosenthal says the ownership situation in Texas may be keeping the Rangers from bringing Rod Barajas back. Barajas also supposedly wants a two year deal, which the Rangers have been adamant about not wanting to do, and the Rangers seems pretty committed to going with Jarrod Saltamacchia as their starter if he is healthy.
Evan Grant talks about why the Rangers are looking at C.J. Wilson as a starter in spring training, and doesn't seem to think that moving Wilson to the rotation is any better of an idea than I do.
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JD spring training chat at DMN Blog at 3PM
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/02/be-here-rangers-gm-jon-daniels-discusses.html
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Heres a thought
Sometimes I make biscuits. I have never burned a batch of biscuits in my life. It’s pretty much the only thing other than spaghetti that I can make that I’ve never burned (and you can’t burn spaghetti).
But you know something?
My biscuits fucking suck ass.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
I don't know why there is such a problem
in finding out if CJ can do this.
So many people in here bitch about the Rangers putting Feliz in the bully instead of making him a starter but why are they so adamant about CJ not becoming a starter?
What if he can do it?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
this is a fantastic random reply fail
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 10, 2010 9:08 AM CST up reply actions
Josey is always a reply fail.
This is one of the primary reasons why people accuse him of hijacking threads. Someone will want to talk UZR or Lenny Dykstra, and he will respond with Hank Blalock saved This Thing type of crap.
Short answer
The potential gain, and the likelihood of success, aren’t great enough to make it worthwhile, in my opinion.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 10, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
I would have said the same thing
about Kenny Rogers in 1991 but he ended up becoming a very effective starter for several years. Early career Rogers reminds me a lot of CJ and this was about the age that Rogers made the change.
I don’t know if CJ can do it but it’s something worth exploring given that we know LH starters tend to do better than RH pitchers in Arlington.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Wilson is under team control only two more years
If he had 5-6 years of team control left, like Feliz, I’d have a different opinion about it.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 10, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
AJM
There is a chance we could contend this year but we don’t have a LH starter that can be depended on to do anything.
Oliver is supposed to be here to do some of the things CJ did last year. The fact that we have CJ only two more years means we should find out if he can be a starter. We’re going to feel pretty freaking silly if he leaves Texas and becomes a dependable LH starter.
Kenny Rogers became a full-time starter in ‘93 as a 28 year old and went 16-10 with a 4.10 ERA in 208 IPs (he’d never thrown more than 110 IPs before ’93).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Okay
Why would we feel silly if C.J. leaves Texas and becomes a dependable LH starter, if, while he was with the Rangers, he was a dominant LH reliever?
What does this team need more, a decent LH starting pitcher or a dominant LH reliever who can be the closer if Frankie continues to have injury problems?
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 10, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
He isnt a dominant LH reliever
he is a good LH reliever. And a decent starter is much more valuable than a good reliever.
by nathanbaum09 on Feb 10, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
It really is weird
how many times it happens…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Yep
He sounds like my wife every time CJ comes in to pitch and she starts whining about how we’re going to lose the game and I wanna throw one of Jon’s Biscuits at her.
Can someone tell me where I can find a pitcher's pitch count/inning?
My main arguement for CJ not being in the pen is a lack of plus pitches and that he throws too many pitches to be an effective starter. He wouldnt’ be good to the Rangers if he only goes 4 and 2/3. I just can’t find out where to find these stats.
Any help? I kind of wanted to back up what I was thinking instead of just going off what I see during the games.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
EG's article says:
Wilson averaged 17.6 pitches per inning last year, which ranked 61st among 86 qualifying relievers. For his career, he averages 17.5 pitches per inning. There wasn’t a single AL starter to average as many as 17.5 pitches per inning last year and work at least 150 innings.
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Wouldn't it stand to reason that CJ
is also not going to be trying to strike-out as many hitters as closer/set-up pitcher as he would as a starting pitcher?
I’ll go thru the article to see EG mentions that but if he didn’t, that’s fairly shitty writing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
If he doesn't try to K as many hitters,
he is now out of his pitching mindset, not as effective of a pitcher, and would start trying to nibble the corners even more after he gets jacked for grooving one down the plate.
I really don’t think I’ve ever heard of a pitcher trying NOT to strike out a hitter every time they are pitching to them. I understand maybe trying to induce DP balls or pitching around a big hitter.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Let's look at the K rates of Kenny Rogers
before he became a starter and after.
In ’92, at the age of 28, Rogers struck 8 batters per nine innings in 78 IPs.
The next year as a starter, Rogers altered his approach and struck out 6 batters per nine innings.
I would assume that Rogers changed his approach and he did so seamlessly and successfully.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think EG
is a shitty writer but I think this is a case where a writer (who should know better) wants to sway opinion for some reason.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Kenny was ready to be a starter.
He was groomed to be that. He didn’t come from closer/setup man to starter. He came from spot starter/long relief to SP. Kenny always pitched like a power starting pitcher, even when in relief, which was usually LONG relief. So Kenny never changed his approach. He was a SP all along.
You picked a year (‘92) that he was put as a LOOGY because the Rangers had Ryan, Brown, Witt, and Guzman as the SP. He couldn’t make his way into that starting rotation. He wasn’t/isn’t a LOOGY,
In Roger vs. CJ, you have two things.
Rogers= a starter who was put incorrectly into a LOOGY role for one year.
CJ = a relief/closing pitcher who is in his correct role. Putting him as a starter is not what his pitching style is for.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Kenny had 15 saves
in his second year in The Show so he did go from closer/set-up to starter.
My recollection is that The Gambler was able to make the transition when he added a couple pitches to his arsenal and also started throwing more strikes.
I keep bringing up Rogers as a comparison to CJ because they strike me as being very similar and that same age. I didn’t think Rogers could make the transition but he did it with ease and was very successful.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
He also started 3 games that year
and had almost 100 IP. CJ hasn’t pitched over 73 innings in the majors ever.
Kenny was a LOOGY/Long reliever that year and wasn’t even the starting closer. It was Russell (who had 10 saves) and he went down in June. That’s the only reason Rogers was a CP.
So again, Kenny was put in a spot that wasn’t where he should have been as a closer/RP. There was no transition. He was a SP put in a LOOGY or long relief spot until there was room for him in the rotation to start.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Sure - why not?
So you think a successful reliever should be able to be a successful starter, right? Yet you refuse to believe that a very successful starter in Japan won’t be a successful starter here?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I just don't know of a starter
who failed spectacularly in The Show, went to Japan for a couple of years and then came back as a success in The Show.
Do you?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Jason Botts is with
the White Sox organization now.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Nope - how about this
Name a starter that failed here, went to Japan and was very successful, and came back to the states and failed.
Can you name one of those?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I know hitters go there and come
back but I don’t know of any pitchers who shit the bed in The Show, go to Japan and then come back and pitch successful.
That’s different than Kuroda,Osuka or Nomo coming over here after a successful run in Japan.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
You not answering my question answered it
Pitchers don’t fail here and go to Japan and have great success there. Colby is unique. There is no track record to look at for success v. fail after returning to MLB so quit trying to prove a point with it.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I don't think so.
I don’t know of any American pitchers who shit the bed in The Show (Lewis did so spectacularly), went to Japan and then came back and pitched successfully in The Show.
Do you?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'll repeat my question since you did too
Name one pitcher who shit the bed here, went to Japan and was very successful and came back to MLB and shit the bed again.
Can you do that?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I'm referring to the strike out rates...
I’d block quote it but I’m not that computer savvy. Basically you said that he would strike out more batters as a starter…I think you meant less. That’s all.
I said it the way I wanted to.
Late inning relievers and closers quite often come into a game needing to get a K which means they’re going to use more pitches.
If you pitch to contact, your pitch counts will go down.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm, I think you're wrong.
You said CJ is also NOT going to be trying to strike-out as many hitters as closer/set-up pitcher as he would as a starting pitcher?
When the reality is as you just said that he would be trying to strike out more. Correct?
You really enjoy breaking all
Josey rules don’t you?
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure what you're talking about
But maybe if you would write out said Josey rules I could follow them better.
Pretty simple,
Just don’t reply…
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Dazzle my ass
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
you radical
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
cheers!
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
And you somehow have more faith
in Cobra Lewis being a good starter than CJ…amazing.
I don’t understand what the problem is in just seeing if CJ can do it when Oliver is here to shoulder some of CJ’s load from last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
About the only thing Oliver and CJ have in common are they are both left handed
Thats it. We need CJ at the back of our bullpen especially if Frankie goes down or is ineffective
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Oliver & CJ both pitched 73 innings last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
biscuits
"I think that Rangers is good team."-DemianBlue
by Pocket Ninja on Feb 10, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
not that amazing
Cobra 2.0 throws strikes. Could be that he gets hurt by those strikes more over here than over there, but he throws strikes and if his stuff (especially cutter) is as good as apparently a lot of teams think it is — he should be league average at least.
CJ fishes too much. His stuff is good enough that he can get out of the 3-2 trouble he gets himself into, but he’s more effective as a reliever because 3-2 counts a lot of the time as a starter just isn’t very efficient or effective.
If it’s a league average starter or a SO getting reliever — I’ll take the SO getting lefty reliever. We have guys that can be league average starters, we don’t have too many that can bring what CJ brings from the pen.
by elvis1isking on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Cobra 2.0
I hope this catches on.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
I like
“Colbyashi” better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I enjoy names with numbers in them.
I’ll admit it.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
For some reason that reminds me that
George Constanza wanted to name any son he would have " Seven " and I giggled
Nicely put...
Agreed
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Aside from really needing Lewis to be effective to get where we want to be
I will be watching all of his starts with tremendous anxiety praying that he does well so Josey with stfu about it.
I'm hopeful about Cobra
but either our scouts know something nobody else does or Lewis has an incredibly shitty agent.
Color me very skeptical about Lewis having success this season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
You, a skeptic about one of JD's moves?
Will wonders never cease?
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, a GM
that gives 1/3 of your total payroll from 2007-2009 to Padilla, Lofton, Gagne, Cat, Broussard and JJennings makes me a little skeptical.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
And builds the farm system into the best it has ever been.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Kind of the Anti-Melvin, huh?
Good at building a minor league system but doesn’t have a clue when it comes to assessing what a major league team needs to do to improve.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Get your Josey doll for 10.99
at any local toy store. You pull his string and he says 8 original things…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Why don't you reserve judgment on JD....
Until the end of his tenure or at least 2012 or 2013? See if he’s built something far greater than Melvin ever has by then.
All we have to do is win a playoff series.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Why don't I reserve judgment on JD
until 2012 or 2013?
My judgment for JD was cemented between the 2006 season and the 2007 season.
To me that particular off-season was akin to a preacher lifting his leg before a sermon and horse-farting for 30 straight seconds. It was kind of hard to take him serious after that.
Whatever else he had to say after that didn’t matter. My judgment on him was cemented because those particular moves were so profoundly bad and demonstrated to me that he didn’t know what the hell he was doing and in was in over his head.
What he did before 2006 & 2008 didn’t help his cause with me either.
The moves made before this season were vintage JD-type moves and he may be eligible for parole with me if the team does well but I have to tell you, one of the biggest reasons I don’t think this team can win 90 games is because of the stupid sonofabitch who is the GM of this team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
well why didn't you say so before?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I'm sure
JD is losing sleep at night hoping you parole him. Between that and the budget restrictions being lifted, who knows how good a GM he can become…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Good to know your opinion on JD was "cemented" three years ago
Nothing like keeping an open mind. Oh, who am I kidding – what mind?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Cemented? So there is no way you will change your mind on JD?
JD was a first time GM and the youngest ever.
Give the guy a break. There is a learning curve to any job.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
If the Rangers have marked
improvement in 2010, I’m going to need to give JD credit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
sig update
for reference
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Feb 10, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
one problem
‘marked improvement’
To Josey probably will end up meaning 182-0 anything less leaves him wiggle room.
No you can't
sorry, but your attitude about Daniels is cemented in 2006. No matter what he does, its all based on that off-season. The Rangers could win the next 20 world series’, but it wouldn’t matter, because your opinion would still be cemented in 2006. (ass)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Heh
To me that particular off-season was akin to a preacher lifting his leg before a sermon and horse-farting for 30 straight seconds.
I would have rec’d if I didn’t so strongly disagree with the rest of the post.
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by rlb02a on Feb 10, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was just about to say the exact same thing
this mental image will stay with me all day and I will not stop giggling.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
You sir will not be giggling alone
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
it's a shame, really
that you’ve decided to hold on for dear life to events that happened 3 years ago. Too bad your biases won’t let you see the good work he’s done since then.
by elvis1isking on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
I wasn't very happy with
JD’s off-season leading up to the 2008 season either (that was 2 years ago).
See Ben Broussard & JJennings.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
mistakes certainly
but the overall body of work JD has put in is above average. Every GM makes mistakes, and some are headshakingly stupid, but JD has put this team in a place where it can be legitimately competitive for the division, and hopefully new ownership will allow it to be competitive for the WS. To choose to let 2006, 2007 and the 1 or 2 minor mistakes since take center stage over the impressive work JD has done is unfortunate. He started off very badly, learned from his mistakes, and now the Rangers are on the cusp of something special. JD and his staff built this along with the mistakes he made. Too bad you and RG have positioned yourself so far this side of things you can’t even enjoy what JD and his staff have done.
by elvis1isking on Feb 10, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I anxiously await
for JD to dazzle my ass with his GM wizardry this upcoming season because in 5 years he is yet to do so but then I’m a little different.
My assessments of GMs are weighted heavily towards actual success between the lines in The Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Here Josey
Dazzle your own ass.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Feb 10, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you judge GM's by their actual success
where does your Billy Beane worship come from? Mostly he just trades guys that are about to be in their prime for young bucks and when they get close to the Bigs he trades them. And he had a book written about him. And several last place finishes lately. Thats about it
I said something in here not too long ago about
Beane needing to do something else positive fairly soon because he hasn’t done much since the beginning of the 2007 season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Beane offered Lewis
a two-year contract.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Who else AT THE TIME would you have rather we signed to be a placeholder at 1B?
Because thats what Broussard was. Davis had his breakout season in 2007 and was going to be cracking into the majors in 2008 at some time. We didn’t need a young player there or go out and sign some veteran to a multi year deal.
And don’t you dare say Adrian Gonzalez because he was shipped out of here well before then.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hmmm
I started my job here in 2006 and I SUCKED…..no one thought I would last in my industry. Then the following year in ’07 I was respectable..still not great, but middle of the road. In ’08 and ’09 I was in the top 5% of everyone here in my department.
So what was the problem? Nothing…I just was coming into something that I wasn’t ready for and it took me some time to get the feel for it. Seems pretty easy to understand.
Yeah his ML teams haven't improved at all since hes been here huh?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Not all bad moves
You shouldn’t lump these together as his moves or total fail moves. Padz was one of our only innings eaters and it is understandable why we brought him back. (he is a nutcase so that is a fault for sure) JJ and Gagne were low risk high reward moves that any GM attempt to do when you are rebuild mode. (1 out of 2, Gagne brought us Murph and Beltre (tired of waiting on him, I know he is still young but he has got to start showing some improvement this year.) I think that Lofton was a club house vet move that helped young players and got us a good prospect (good move) as far as the utter fail move with Broussard… I think that was a Wash move. He wanted the team to go out and get this guy. Sure you can blame JD for lending a olive branch to his first year manager and trying to get a guy he wants. But it wasn’t like JD said “oh man FA season opened today, I got to have me some Broussard.”
by Warren P Funk on Feb 11, 2010 7:36 AM CST up reply actions
I know, you've said this 1 million times.
And I personally have you on the record as being 100% against this move, so don’t try and change your stance and link this post if/when you’re wrong.
This is typical
Josey. He bashes a guy. Then says he’s hopeful about him but gives reasons why he isn’t hopeful. He ALWAYS hedges so he’s never wrong. What a joke.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Everything is table talk right now
until more info comes down the pike.
I need to see players & pitchers in spring training, go thru my Bill James Gold Mine and BProspectus before I render official opinions.
I was justifiably very tough on Nelson Cruz until I saw him at the end of 2008 and in spring training last year. I changed my stance on him during spring training last year and thought he was ready to become a monster.
It happens.
My stance right now on Cobra Lewis is heavy skepticism. I’ve never seen a pitcher struggle in The Show as a pitcher, find it in Japan and come back as a 31 year old and be successful in The Show.
I also think if everybody else thought Lewis was going to put up 175+ IP’s with an ERA below 5, he would have cost a helluva lot more than $ 5 million over 2 years.
I’ll render an official opinion on Lewis sometime towards the end of spring training.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Hedging again
You never actually take a stand. It’s always wait until this or that. No one cares. Be a man and make a concrete statement. I’m beginning to think you are actually a woman…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
No
I’m going to wait until at least late March before rendering a definitive opinion on Cobra.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
No you won't
You’ll throw out some numbers, beat us over the head with them if you are right, make some stupid excuse about projections and I was with the experts when you are wrong. It’s the same song and dance clown. Just keep dancing for our entertainment…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
You already predicted 85 wins
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I'm very comfortable
saying the Rangers will win between 85-89 games but that’s subject to change before the season begins.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see a count of how many people here give a fuck.
If you give a fuck, please respond to my post.
by bhudson on Feb 10, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How many posts were made that
ragged me for predicting the Rangers would win 73 games last year?
The over / under is, conservatively, 2500.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
You missed the point
No one cares about you telling us that you’re going to make your predictions. Once you do, some will make a mental note and the world will continue spinning on its axis.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Pfffft.
Last year I had several posters trying to get me to bet them after I made my predictions including Cave and there was also Big Ed Coffin who couldn’t believe I thought the Mariners & Rangers would be fighting it out for a better record.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
The Rangers and Mariners
Weren’t really fighting it out for who had the better record. Now granted the way the final standings showed it might look that way…but it’s kinda like a baseball game that’s 10-1 in the 3rd inning then the team puts together a bit of a rally in the 8th to make it 10-7 but the whole time the shut down closer was ready to put it away. The Rangers had the M’s all year long, it’s not like they were flip flopping down the stretch.
A lack of a LH starter is not going to
determine the playoff fate of this team.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
why?
we have such a bevy of young, higher upside arms to plug into the bullpen for 1 or 2 innings every other night.
CJ can give us a huge advantage if he can be a 6 inning per start guy…which is really the question (because if his command is good enough to get him through 6 innings, he’s going to have decent control). CJ, Harden and Feldman in a rotation would be a pretty damn good trio, in my opinion.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 10, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think this starting talk about
CJ is just a sly way to appease him and stretch him out allowing him to become an asset in middle inning relief. I think they believe he’s too quirky and don’t trust him in the late innings with the game on the line. They may believe an Oliver/Feliz/Ray(if healthy) combo would be more consistently reliable.
Who gives a shit what Josey says.............................
by Lil' Jonny Donuts on Feb 10, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Do you start from scratch
or do you use the pre-made in a tube?
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
by sunlegend54 on Feb 10, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
oh you can burn spaghetti
I’ll get you some burnt spag if you want some…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 10, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hardball Talk (formerly Circling the Bases) lists the Rangers depth heading into ST
by GregoryM on Feb 10, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions
I like that Kevin Richardson is still on the periphery.
Gives us at least a chance of another Heidi sighting.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
ugh...
But in just watching the game, Young did a nice job of charging balls and getting outs and making the key plays when needed. He had trouble on certain balls down the line, but I think part of that was figuring out where to play properly at a new position. I expect he’ll be even better in that category in 2010.
Seriously?
No mention of how terrible of he is at ranging to left?
Watching his little “half-step then awkward belly flop sort of in the same general direction as the ball” move he makes is just brutal to watch.
At least we don’t have to watch him do it at SS anymore, though.
And the move to third gave him the freedom to get back on the good roids and hit again, which is another huge plus.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 10, 2010 9:07 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I don't get this.
IIRC, the knock on him has always been his range to the right – that’s kind of why it made sense to go ahead and stick him at third.
meta-signature
When Elvis is to his left, he needs no range
In fact, I say we just let Elvis play the whole left side of the infield by himself and make Young a fourth outfielder.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Exatamundo
We would be the only MLB with a rover
To his left?
The belly-flop-dives-a-full-second-late are etched in my memory as dives to his right towards the bag.
Maybe the takeaway from all this is that he’s not great at getting balls not hit at him…
Yes, I think you may be right... by which I mean, "correct".
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a Ranger’s game and I’ve done whatever I can to block his little belly flop move out of my memory.
The bottom line remains the same: FFace has no range and he’s terrible at diving for balls.
He’s got good hands and is consistent enough (note the errors or Durrett will get angry!!!), but I don’t see him as a guy who is gonna become a great defender at third. It’s possible, just not probably, imo.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 10, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
He's got a strong arm, too.
But yeah, I can’t recall him diving for a ball and actually coming up with one, now that I think about it.
Good hands and good arm are important at 3rd
While his range won’t be great — he won’t be Scott Rolen for instance — he should have enough range to be just around / slightly below average this year.
His UZR/150 last year, while bad at the end of the year, consistently improved as the year went on. Given sample size issues (1 year of UZR isn’t enough), I would expect him to show continued improvement.
In simpler terms — to start the year he played like a -30 3B, to end the year he played like a -5 3B to round out to his ~ -11.
I think he adjusts to closer to a 0 to -5 player this year, with the possibility of surprising us and going so far as +5. If he does that, though, I’d still say he’d only arguably be average given what we know about him and what we know about UZR.
I don't know about the roids claim,
but you are dead on about the awkward belly flop. The guy plays 3B like he’s wearing cement shoes.
CJ
Someone on the DMN board referred to him as a “fragile onanism.” LOLwhut?
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
"Jesus, Spanish- first our jobs, now our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
INCONCEIVABLE!
Maybe he meant “fragile orgasm”?
DMN boards rule!
"I think that Rangers is good team."-DemianBlue
by Pocket Ninja on Feb 10, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe someone believes he's a fragile masturbater
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
MY's Defense
I copied Young’s UZR and +/- numbers when they were posted over at BBTiA during the past season. If I am interpreting them correctly, MY was pretty much lg avg defensively since June. But beware of SSS.
Sept ?
3B: Michael Young (-8.1 UZR,17 +/)
Aug 12
3B: Michael Young (-10.8 UZR,16 +/)
July 23
3B: Michael Young (-11.4 UZR,15 +/)
July 16
3B: Michael Young (-11.5 UZR,15 +/)
June 29
3B: Michael Young (-9.8 UZR,15 +/)
June 22
3B: Michael Young (-9.8 UZR,14 +/)
June 17
3B: Michael Young (-10.2 UZR,14 +/)
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
I heartell it's 100 games
to revive an old meme that deserved it’s timely death
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Remember the bitch-fest when MYoung misplayed
Teixeira’s ball in NYC? Wouldn’t that have been late May?
Wanna say the bases were loaded in a game the Rangers led.
Tex overswung and barely tipped a change-up causing the ball to have crazy ass spin on it and (I think) all three runs scored. The Young-haters in LSB came flying out of the closet.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Peach cobbler is my favorite
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
With good, fresh peaches
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
And ice cream.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
home made ice cream
from grandma
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I like the
remember when game. Remember when pogs were cool. The key was having a good slammer
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
I was pog king for about 6 months in 4th grade
my slammer was a half inch thick. I was so f’ing cool…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Ya' think Bill James makes good biscuits?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Speaking of "Remember When"....
I was bouncing around baseballanalysts.com and found this gem from The Newberg.
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2005/09/remember_when.php
That boy can write a little bit.
Off the top of my head, I wanna say the 3 HR game from Willie Horton happened v the Royals in May ‘77…on a Sunday. And some of you think I’m not a fan of the Texas Rangers!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
You don't have to be a fan
to use Google.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
You're asking me to show off, New Guy.
More off the top of my head…
Frank Lucchesi was the manager of the ’77 team and it was a tumultuous off-season. The ’76 team broke the gate 19-8 and was 44-32 in early July before a 10 game losing streak (ended on a game winning hit in a DH v Boston by Toby Harrah) sent them off the tracks (32-54 the rest of the way).
Jeff Burroughs was traded to Atlanta for 5 bags of shit (hence, one of the reasons I was so horrified when we traded HOF potential in his prime Mark Teixeira).
We also signed Campy (first big year of free agency) meaning Toby Harrah moved to 3B. I think we also signed Doc Medich and Doyle Alexander as free agents as well.
Bump Wills was a rookie and won the 2B job. Lucchesi ended up getting in a fight with Randle in spring training and got his ass whipped.
Somewhere down the line we had acquired Claudell Washington to play RF and Juan Beniquez (and his bazooka arm) were in CF.
Can’t remember when we traded for him but we also got Willie Horton from the Tigers.
Sunny was the catcher and was a terrible hitter until he broke out that June v the Angels. Think they played a Sunday DH and he turned his season around that day.
Speaking of June, we had 4 managers in something like a week. that month. Eddie Stanky was our manager for one game in Minnesota (think we won 10-7). Supposedly Stanky knew he couldn’t manage this team when he heard Dock Ellis say out loud “How come there are no motherfucking n…s on the left side of the infield?”
Billy Hunter joined the team in Oakland and he was so appalled at our lack of fundamentals that he immediately instituted mini-spring training drills before games.
The Rangers stabilized and started playing very well in July. There was a memorable DH against the White Sox in early August where there was a rain delay (I can remember Dave May having a big game and it was midnight in Texas) and I wanna say the Rangers swept.
Somewhere in the season we picked up Kurt Bevacqua and he just went nuts. We swept a DH in Fenway against Boston and the second game was played in the wee hours of the morning (Len Barker was a beast in one of those games). Boston had a dramatic rally in the 3rd game…wanna say we were winning 6-3 and George Scott had a big hit in the 8th inning.
We slipped into first place in mid-August when the Yankees were in town. Ron Guidry pitched in the rubber game on a Sunday night and beat the Rangers. The next week we played in NYC once again the weekend before school started back up. I remember Bump Wills & Toby Harrah hitting back to back inside the park HRs.
It was a great race that year but after finally catching the White Sox (who had a very fun team) we couldn’t keep up with the Royals who posted a 16 game winning streak in late August / early September.
We won 94 games and things were looking up for the Rangers.
And as God is my witness, all of that was off the top of my head.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
Then why can't you recall how bad Hank Blalock was last year?
by FuturePants on Feb 10, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
C'mon, man.
Stop.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Another gem from Bill James I read on Baseball Analysts last night...
“the final test of any statistic is whether or not it correlates with winning.”
The Rangers went 28-19 when Hank F started playing every day and 18-21 after he was buried.
Who really cares because Hank F isn’t playing for the Rangers in 2010?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Correlation != causation.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
C'mon, man.
Stop.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
20-9 in May WITH Chris Davis
Nothing more needs to be said
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
What are the best BBQ places in Texas?
My buddies and i are thinking about doing a BBQ road trip this summer.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Cooper's in Llano
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
City Market in Luling
Basically, most small towns in Central Texas have a dive that does great BBQ.
by Mike the Grate on Feb 10, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
My backyard
but you have to call first.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
x
D Magazine has a list of the top 16 list of best bbq places in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. I am going to try to hit up some of the ones on the list that I haven’t been to.
http://www.dmagazine.com/Home/D_Magazine/2010/February/The_Best_Barbecue_in_Dallas.aspx
by GregoryM on Feb 10, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Nice
thanks!!
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
DFW has pretty terrible BBQ comparatively
The best I’ve found is Off the Bone on Lamar (different than the one in that article). Their ribs are to die for, but their brisket is so-so.
by Mike the Grate on Feb 10, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Rudy's is awesome, but a long drive from Dallas
It’s up in Frisco, right?
by Mike the Grate on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Lame.
I know a ton of people love Rudy’s, but I’m not a fan. There’s just so much out there that’s better…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 10, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Rudy's
I went there for the first time last year, and was a little underwhelmed.
Dickey’s is probably my favorite BBQ place in DFW, though I do like Riscky’s chopped beef sandwiches. Not a lot of great places out there otherwise, though as an Alabama native who greatly prefers his BBQ to be of the pork variety, I may be a bit biased.
"Jesus, Spanish- first our jobs, now our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Not a fan of Dickey's
Unfortunately, Dallas is lacking when it comes to non-chain BBQ restaurants. You would think it would be different.
meta-signature
You're right
And I when I said Dallas I meant Metroplex. It’s a by-product of living 2 hours from the Metroplex for most of my life. Even though I live in S FW now, I can’t break the habit.
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True that
I’ve been very disappointed with the quality of BBQ in Dallas. Because of that article though I went to North Main in Euless last weekend and was pretty impressed. It’s pretty decent.
The best I’ve had is in Lockhart though.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
yup north texas you have to be very selective about
angelos is king
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Texas Monthly had a big piece on this recently
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
Mikeska's
in Columbus is pretty tasty. Schulze’s in Rosenberg is also good.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah the goal
is take a 4 day weekend and just road trip around a bit eating at 5-6 different BBQ places. Found a few good places in and around austin
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
There's a Mikeska's in Temple too.
I was raised on that stuff. Mom had the BBQ sauce in my bottle.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Best off the shelf BBQ sauce?
Sweet Baby Ray’s for me.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Anderson's...
..next to Parkland.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 10, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Clem Mikeska – Temple
Harold’s – Abilene
Matlock’s – Wichita Falls (but I think it’s closed)
meta-signature
See, I was never a fan of Underwood's.
My wife loves that place (she’s from Goldwaith so she went all the time).
I always felt it was too “cafeteria BBQ”. I do enjoy their turkey though. I will give them that.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
The cafeteria atmosphere is part of the allure of Undewood's
It’s a unique, inimitable place.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Best rolls on the planet
Shadazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHADAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 10, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
They literally melt
The second you put them in your mouth
Shadazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHADAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 10, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Grandy's rolls are good but Underwood's are otherwordly
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
I'm more of a bread guy.
Mikeska’s bread is amazing. It’s very light and spongy, so it soaks up anything on the plate.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Yeah, one of the major components of my barbecue experience is sopping up all the sauce and juice with bread
Sometimes that’s homemade bread, sometimes it’s just plain old white bread. Either way, I’m going to town with it.
But Underwood’s is just a special, different place where rolls are most appropriate.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
Just go to Lockhart.
You’ll save a lot of miles and knock out 3 of the top 10 in Texas.
I’ve always liked Kreuz, but it’s admittedly not the same since they’ve moved, though it may be the crappy atmosphere as much as anything. I don’t really find fault with the food, it’s just that I don’t get the urge to go like when they were in the old building. Smitty’s is where Kreuz used to be and is on par, though I avoid it because I don’t like how they came about to be. Don’t like Blacks as much but that’s personal preference.
There’s not much in DFW. I just as soon go to David’s BBQ in Arlington for brisket. It’s very good (not great), and it comes from a strong legacy. But in general, if you want good BBQ, you have to travel away from the population centers of Texas.
Cyclone Coral
Cyclone, Tx east of Temple…can’t get any better
by ElvistheKing on Feb 10, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
I know we are talking BBQ in Texas
But Dreamland BBQ in Alabama (Birmingham and Tuscolousa) is the best in the world when it comes to ribs. Im from DFW but went to school in Birmingham and i love me some BBQ and if you are ever out in BHam, stop in on Dreamland for sure
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Shut your yankee mouth!
Texas is the best at everything!
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
in NC they boil their pork prior to BBQing it
fucking commies
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
So when did Birmingham Alabama become part of the North?
Good geography
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
a great listing of places that I want to eat at some point
Lockhart has 2 of the only 13 places to get 5 of 5 stars (http://fcg-bbq.blogspot.com/search/label/*). I haven’t been to either place, but if one town has that big of a percentage, it must be the greatest place on earth.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
nice, thanks
I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve only been to one of those establishments (Gonzales Food Market – brilliant).
meta-signature
It's not working
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Way to be full of shit and not useBill James reply to the actual question.
RL: I think your writing is as fun to read today as it was 27 or 28 years ago. One thing you pointed out in 1978 is the notion that “the final test of any statistic is whether or not it correlates with winning.”
BJ: I might state it a little bit differently. The value of a statistic is whether it’s tied to winning. There may be valuable statistics that don’t correlate to winning because the correlation is hidden. A lot of people, who don’t understand what we do, think that it’s just measuring individual glory. What we’re trying to do was change the way we looked at statistics, so instead of measuring individual glory they measured contributions to winning. That’s always what I’ve been trying to do.
That does not bring any validation to your claims and for that matter pretty much calls out your opinions about W-L and statistics…
Pathetic as usual.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Haha
Thanks for the link, it was a good read.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
'77 is pretty solid in my baseball wheelhouse.
Just before girls and beer although I’m also pretty stout on ’78 & ’79 Ranger minutae.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Let's leave the awesomeness to Newberg!
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
So I go back and look at the greatness of Baseball Reference to check
my Rain Man genius on the ’77 Rangers and I find the recollection fairly in tact but….
Claudell played LF and Dave May played RF.
Doc Medich didn’t get there until ’78
Dirty Kurt B did indeed go nuts – 5 HR & 28 RBI in fewer than 100 ab’s.
I also forgot one of the first things Billy Hunter did was make Hargrove (.420 obp, baby!) the lead-off hitter.
That pitching staff was headed by Gaylord, Blyleven and "Downtown Doyle Alexander (194 major league wins) but was weak in the bully until Barker came up in August.
Mike Bacsik’s dad played on this team as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
I'd bet that half the people in this thread
Weren’t even born in ‘77 and don’t care what you have to say.
60% of the time it works everytime
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
cmon man you are better than that
“Baseball is 90% mental – the other half in physical”
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
haha
Bastard was wrong.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Matt Vasdeferens
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
The Vas Deferens
If i remember high school anatomy correctly, are the two tubes connecting the gonads to the rest of the male reproductive system; these tubes allow mature semen to advance from the gonads to the ejaculatory ducts.
A VASectomy is the severing of these tubes.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
You have a good memory
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
always stuck in my brain...
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Connects the...
Epididymis and the ejaculatory duct. This path of the spermatazoa can be remembered through the helpful mnemonic SEVEn UP:
Seminiferous Tubules
Epididymis
Vas Deferens
nothing
Ureter
Penis
I could be the Bill Nye of anatomy. =)
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 10, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yogi Berra
I’ve always heard it this way.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I was already chasing poon in '77
but I still don’t give a shit what Josey says.
Who gives a shit what Josey says.............................
by Lil' Jonny Donuts on Feb 10, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Don't seperate a shoulder
patting yourself on the back about something nobody gives a damn about
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Upon further review,
Willie Horton did indeed hit 3 HRs in KC on May 15.
For some reason, I wanna say the NBA Finals (Philly & Portland of course) were just getting started that day but maybe not.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe this is his counter-attack to everyone rambling
About BS when he posts one of his asinine opinions.
No. I don't have "counter-attacks."
Wasn’t it ASL who mentioned something about “Remember When” ?
I actually read Jamey’s piece on “Remember When” last night and brought it to the party. It was very good and I can see why Baseball Analysts have it linked on their sitge.
And then somebody challenged my knowledge on the ’77 Rangers as being fraudulent. Child, please.
Would you rather talk about pie, the Confederate Flag or beer?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
The Confederate Flag is quite an interesting topic.
I must have missed the day it came up in a thread.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
You didn't miss much.
The reason for it being brought up were a beating to say the least.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
please, God, don't let it start up here
beer is way better
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Wow, nice verb usage Jeff. Ugh.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Guess you dont like beer
whats next Josey? Apple pie?! Commie bastard
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
I don't like beer.
I love beer.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
tigers love pepper
they hate cinnamon
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Feb 10, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I thought it was a very lovely story.
And you tell it so well. With such enthusiasm.
/old lady voice
Excellent Forrest Gump reference.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
On one of the local morning radio shows
in Austin they used to play that clip every time someone started to tell as story that would drag on. It would totally kill any momentum they had.
That's a great story
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
You fail
Any true Ranger fan as old as you and I would never say Kurt Bevacqua. It was " Dirty Kurt Bevacqua ". So there!!
I called him "Dirty Kurt B" at 1138 EST.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I saw that you corrected yourself on the second post. I can never think Kurt without the word Dirty first
I think...."Dirty Kurt"... was supposed to be our DH
on the ‘78 team but he reverted back to his bag o’ suck and was gone by the end of the season.
We just caught lightning in a bottle at the end of ’77.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Caught lightning in a bottle?
What? with all those infield hits he had in August and September? Can’t you see he shit the bed all year long, but just looked better because of those extra infield hits he had after the team was already eliminated.
(sorry guys, I just couldn’t help myself)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Pogs, nice
I remember when those were all the range. All anyone at my elementary school wanted to talk about was pogs. They traded pogs during class, played with them during recess, it was out of control.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
I even went to a "POG" competition!!
It has held i think at the Ft Worth convention center and you played 1 on 1 and I made it through like 4 rounds and then lost to a stupid nerd kid with a “gold” 1/2" think slammer!! POGs were the definitely the bomb back then!
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Pog Competition
I think it’s safe to say that everyone at that pog competition lost to a nerd.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
This.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Pogs
As a kid I was told that pogs were all the rage…I even got a whole bunch for Christmas, but I never knew anyone else that had them. I thought they were kind of stupid, but I still have them in a box in my closet.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Did you have any as cool as Milhouse?
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
REMEMBER ALF???
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
He's back......in Pog form
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
It was a good fad, if such thing can exist
Decent enough game, lots of marketing uses, and they were cheap so poor kids like me could still get into them.
Helluva lot better than Magic: The Gathering, I tell you this. I skipped lunch for two years to have enough cash to barely keep up with that one.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
by Keynes on Feb 10, 2010 9:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
we played quarters at lunch
stand on one side of the hall, toss a quarter, whoever’s closest to the other wall gets all the quarters. Went hungry a couple days, but ate like a king on others!
Eventually, the lunchladies got wise and wouldn’t give us change for our lunchmoney anymore.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I picked up a Magic deck from a friend at some point in junior high, but never got into the game.
Too many “If I do this, then this happens to your cards, but this can also happen if you have this card, so watch out!” scenarios for me, and I really enjoy strategy games.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah me either. Seemed always some kid had a better bad ass card to beat my bad ass card
and I’d be stuck with nothing.
I just kept to playing spades and speed on the bus ride home.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Yeah, I no doubt spent 400-500$ in middle school trying to get another bad-ass card
Although I did get a Jester’s Cap.
(Note for non-nerds: It was a card you could play that would let you look through your opponents entire deck (!) and choose three cards to completely remove (!!) then reshuffle & give it back to the poor bastard. If you got it early, it was sheer rape.)
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
That card is fucking insane.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
I remember having a card that let me play cards from the graveyard, but I can't remember what it was.
I always thought that was cool.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
My generation caught the tail end of Pog-mania
But the full brunt of the Great Yo-Yo Resurgence of the Late 1990s.
I still have a pretty sweet Yo-Yo that was a birthday present from my parents when I was in the seventh or eighth grade. Yo-yos came back strong.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
shit
I went out and bought a $20 yo-yo and thought I was the shit, until some kid came up with a $40 yo-yo and could actually do tricks with it
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Feb 10, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of expensive...
I overheard a guy telling a girl in the elevator last night that he just bought a $350 bong. What can this thing possibly do that warrants a $350 purchase? He’s a college kid and I know he can’t have that much money.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Man I hear that shit all the time
I just roll my eyes. For $350 it should go pick up the weed for me.
Shadazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHADAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 10, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
could just be really large
quality isn’t always size but obviously the bigger it gets the more it costs, as long as it’s glass. i know someone who has a multi-tube acrylic one and it only cost $60, but there’s a lot of air flow so it hits very cool. if someone wanted to get stupid expensive you could go after a Volcano, that’d be awesome
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
or something like this
$100 at Gas Pipe
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
I was in an Austin Comm. College elevator when I heard it.
I’m sure that rocks your socks off. The kid said something about having a splash guard and all kinds of things. It was quite interesting.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
i always found it much easier to use papers
however, a Volcano would do some amazing things
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
Have you seen/heard of the
handheld vaporizer that’s out? Guy I know just bought one for $260. Not a bad purchase if you have the funds.
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 10, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
have not
i’ll have to look it up, they have a couple different one’s at GasPipe, the Volcano is $700, they had another one for around $500
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
Crazy
I’d rather just buy a ceramic or brass pipe for $20 and a pack of screens. I’d be so high off the $500 worth of weed I bought by not spending it on expensive equipment, that I wouldn’t care what I was smoking it out of.
I don’t partake much anymore, but I’ve burned enough brain cells to last 10 lifetimes.
"Jesus, Spanish- first our jobs, now our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
the great thing about a vaporizer though
is that the initial investment is returned an innumerable amount of times. since the vaporizer converts the smoke into nearly pure THC and stores it in the bag, you can hit it twice and be gone like no other and it only takes a small amount of herb to have a whole lot of THC. if you’ve ever hit one, you know it’s ridiculous in a very great way
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
I thought that was in Detroit on Opening Week...
And it took Murphy about an hour to get the damn ball.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 10, 2010 11:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's also worth noting
That the guy has only had a positive UZR once in his career. Once. At second base in 2002.
No matter where he plays, the guy is just not a very good defensive player, period.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Yet The Face somehow was given a 5 year / $ 80 million deal
from JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
28.2
I swiped that from another blog, so not sure if it is 100% accurate.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I expect his UZR to improve in 2010 ...
just as it did over the course of 2009. He’ll never be tops in the league, but he’s capable of playing average defense at 3rd. Given his hitting, I can live with that.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
I expect him to be better too
Just because theres no way he can be as bad as he was last year again. You would think.
But barring a fluke, I suspect he’ll always be a run or three below average.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Rangers seems pretty committed to going with Jarrod Saltamacchia as their starter if he is healthy.
This is not what Wash said the other day. He said the starting catcher position is wide open and will be won in spring traing by one of Salty, Teagarden, or Hall.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 9:50 AM CST reply actions
interesting...
I think they really want Salty to take over that job and not give it back.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
of course they do,
but he continues to show the growing pains of being rushed to the majors.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Salty
did seem to improve a lot defensively last year maybe this is the year he takes a big step forward offensively.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
yeah. he did.
and ive seen other catcher in ranger past have the same thing happen. as i recall laird had this happen. he tried to really turn his defense up and it did, but his offense struggled that season. the following season he was back to being the offensive player expeccted and his defense was as good as previous year, it just took a couple seasons to become balanced and complete, or as balanced and complete as 1 mouth 5 ice cream cones could get.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Frankly, I never thought of that since he was already with the Braves and they had McCann already.
I just figured he was ready, but you are probably right.
Your 2009 Snow Monkey Ambassador
I'd like to see him do well
And then I’d like to see the fans create a section in left field and name themselves “Salty’s Dogs”!
that would be epic
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Well
I didn’t hear him say that, but even if he did, I don’t believe it. I think that’s one of those things he has to say.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 10, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I can't imagine him saying anything else..
“Yeah, we’ve got the two other guys, but they’ve got no chance.”
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
No
but he could say something like, “it’s Salty’s job to lose”. He said he spoke indiviually with all of them and told them the job is up for grabs.
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 10, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
I'm also not sure
that Washington and Daniels are in total agreement on this position a good portion of the time. And I don’t see that as a dysfunctional situation necessarily, just the usual manager looks at what he sees today and GM looks at what he wants to see over time kind of thing. But we’ve been getting different interpretations from the two on their catchers for quite a while, I think.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 10, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
I think it comes down to gut and faces
sadly
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If Hall and his 2 mile wide base clogging ass starts behind the plate this year...
I quit
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Who was it that Whitey Herzog talked about?
If he starts as our catcher this year we’re screwed, and he responded that Whitey must have seen him play.
Was that Dick Billings? Is this one of those moments again?
Wash on right now
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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
And DC is shut down too
Wall Street vacant, Bernanke canceled his brief, etc.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Most of Wall st
trading is done electronically anyways. See the picture of the supermarket on the front pg of the Wall st journal?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
No shit, who woulda thunk it? Sheesh...
It will still negatively effect the $25 billion 10s auction.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
True
and i didnt mean anything by that last comment at all.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 10, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Heh
I’m in a grouchy mood today…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Call Mr. Plow
That’s my name.
That name again.
Is Mr. Plow.
When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.
Barney - you stole my idea?
Nothing wrong with some healthy competition pow pow pow pow
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Senor Plow no es macho
solamente un burracho
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
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"fun" being a subjective term...
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
OK, it's been a long and enjoyable ride
And Adam’s feature posts will always be a must-read, including good links. But I’ve absolutely got to alter how I use my time, so involvement in comments is over. I get nothing from continuous Mike Young trashing, Josey baiting, diversions to music and beer, catfighting over beliefs and standards, and immature putdowns back and forth.
Love the site, don’t care for the outflow. Have a great 2010 season.
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by Ed Coffin on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM CST reply actions 9 recs
You can't leave
All the plants will die
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Oops - meant to hit "cancel" not "post"
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Can't say I blame you
this thread may be the worst yet.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
You can't
complain about the thread down here when you argued with Josey up there. Pick a side of the fence brotha…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 10, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
I replied once
and I did not bring up his name even before he posted (see the Daniels chat thread).
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I seem to remember Big Ed himself
partaking in a little bit of “pie talk” himself yesterday. Gooseberry Pie or somesuch. He’ be back. He did the same thing a couple of years ago at NMLR when I was telling the world exactly how bad the 2007 Rangers were going to be and he thought they were going to win 93 games.
The thread hasn’t been THAT bad for early February.
I’m not big on “bong talk” but we’ve kicked around the idea of CJ becoming a starter (which was the thread topic) plus introduced the concept of the preacher beginning his sermon with a 30 second horse fart.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Throws *harder* as a starter?
Good grief…
by Outworlder47 on Feb 10, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Yups...
“Coming out of the bullpen I can maintain my velocity more consistently, but as a starter I throw harder. As the game goes along, I get stronger.”
by GregoryM on Feb 10, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Wilson
If Wilson impresses in ST, I see no reason not to give him an opportunity to start.
if Wilson makes it as a starter, the bullpen would be O’Day, Oliver, Ray as 6th-7th inning guys, Feliz in the 8th, Frankie to close. You’re not losing much there. That having been said, I imagine Wilson is in the bullpen in ’10.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 10, 2010 2:40 PM CST reply actions
I think Wilson will impress in ST.
The guy’s good. He really is. But I think he needs to fine tune his slider/curve a bit better where he can have more control. He also needs to be worked in a bit for such long outtings. Since we do have Oliver, Ray, and O’Day we can maybe try using CJ as a long reliever for a game or two, see what he has over 3-4 innings in a blow out or if someone tweaks something.
I’d also be for letting him maybe make a start before the ASB. I’m going to be optimistic and say we have a pitcher make it (Harden, Feldman?) and CJ can take his start. What about that? Then we can truely see how he pitches as a SP in the majors. (minus that ’05 debacle) This would only work in a perfect storm type scenario, namely one of our guys making the AS team.
My last two cents would be that CJ staying in the pen would be better because perhaps Feliz should get more chances to start over CJ. Feliz has more of an upside as a starter in my opinion and CJ is a proven, seasoned, reliable bullpen guy already. Why mess with a good thing? Keep the bullpen as one of the AL’s best and maybe see about Feliz turning into an ace. I’d almost like to see Feliz do what I suggested in the last paragraph over CJ now that I think about it.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Yeah
In a vacuum, letting CJ trot out there to see if he’s got it isn’t such a bad thing. But the fact that he would be blocking all these other guys gives me great pause.
I’m sure the picture will be much clearer in a month.
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I agree. Spring Training will help a lot.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Feliz
This team is in win now mode. As a starter, Feliz would be limited to about 140IP, and he would likely be running out of gas at the end of the season – not a good scenario for a team in contention. I see no reason to believe he won’t dominate as a reliever all season, in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes the closer at some point in the season. It’s just the best place for him and the team in the short-term.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 10, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
I want to be clear. I don't want CJ or Feliz to start the year as a starter.
Feliz could easily stay under 140 IP if he only did a spot start here and there or some clean up long inning work. If the rotation, which is pretty much set minus the 5th guy, is healthy then the bullpen will have a tough time getting any work in. Nippert, O’Day, CJ, Fx2, Feliz, Oliver, Ray all are very good and solid guys. I’m having a hard time finding them innings if everyone is healthy.
I guess I’m saying Feliz should probably get the nod over CJ if someone goes down from the rotation. Actually more like Nippert/Feliz should take over. You can still give guys experience and experiment while in a win now mode.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I think the
team would prefer to use a guy like Nippert as a spot starter. The Rangers starters aren’t really guys who have a track record of pitching deep into games, so I think the bullpen will get plenty of innings.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 10, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I think the order of who gets the spot starts goes Nippert, Feliz, Oliver (emergency only)
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Is this based off a projection of the 25?
Because I think there are quite a few guys in OKC they’d bring up before trotting Oliver out there to start.
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by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 10, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
By emergency only
I mean a situation where the day of a game the starter comes down with a stomach bug or something and can’t go. Feliz and Nippert are unavailable due to recent usage. I think thats probably the only case where Oliver would start a game next year for us.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Steve, I enjoy your posts
And agree with most everything you say, but I think you’ve got Oliver’s days as a starter still clearly in your head because I don’t see any situation where he starts a game this year.
OK
What roster move do you make then?
Say Tommy Hunter comes down with food poisoning the day of his start. The previous night Nippert was used for 3 innings and Feliz pitched an inning. Your next days starter has already flown on to the next city like they normally do to get ready for their start. Oliver hasn’t pitched in 3 days.
Keep in mind if you send someone down they have to stay down for 10 days before being able to be called back up. The only guys with options that are candidates to send down are Feliz and Ray (Oday possibly, don’t know his option status). Do you send down one of those guys for a spot starter and lose them for the next week and a half?
I would give the ball to Oliver and ask him to give me 3-4 innings. Hes a vetarn so he shouldn’t be phased or psyched out by having to start. I doubt it ever happens this year but I can envision a scenario where he does get 1 start
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Lol, Tommy's a big boy like myself
I could see him eating a sub that fell behind the furnace a few months earlier.
Oh, I also agree with your Oliver point. He got a couple starts last year that were 4 innings a piece and he was fine.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Hmmm
That’s a lot of bad luck for the Rangers and I guess if that happens you may be right as I didn’t realize that Oliver made a couple of starts last year like Jam mentioned (though I’m curious to see when b/c I followed the Angels season pretty closely)….so I guess it would be possible if all that happened and he did indeed some games last year. Although it seems like JD is a creative genius that would find a way to find something else out. Hopefully we won’t find out.
What I do
is call up to Frisco and tell Martin Perez to catch a taxi to the Ballpark, then call the Arlington police and arrange a police escort.
On the road, however, I’d let CJ start the game depending on who is available. But it might not matter. If you have Matt Harrison in the pen, your problem is solved.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
You agree with most everything bigsteve says?
by Brett Perryman on Feb 10, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I just ask because
I kind of doubt if bigsteve even really agrees with a good deal of what he argues on here.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 10, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Like what?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Nothing in particular, but you definitely seem fond of taking the devil’s advocate pov to great lengths at various times. I’ve mentioned this before.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 10, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Damn.
What do you guys say about me when I’m not around?
Or for that matter when I am around? Or have a I not reached acknowledgment status yet? Heh.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
FanGraphs shows the Rangers were right in the middle of the AL of IP by the starting pitchers.
That’s nothing to toot your horn about, but it isn’t terrible. I do believe Nippert will get most starts if needed outside of the rotation. That’s why I put the Nippert/Feliz part out there.
But I believe Feliz gets the nod over CJ.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I think its wrong
to set an innings pitch ceiling for anyone. If he earns a spot in the rotation, let him trot out there every fifth day and see how he does. If he seems to be getting tire, then pull him and let him rejuvenate. give him a couple weeks off in late July, early August when the weathers at its hottest, then let him come back and be awesome in September when the team needs it.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
the Rangers
aren’t going to allow a 22 year old pitcher, who’s never thrown more than about 125IP, to throw 180IP+.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 10, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
On this I agree 110% with.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
How are the two related at all?
If CJ makes the rotation are we gonna have a meme of “He’s blocking Feliz”? I can already see it now.
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by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
If that does happens, I predict (conservative estimate) approximately 9,652,431 comments about the topic within the first month of the season
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We'll no doubt be bitching about somebody blocking Feliz at some point
But it should happen for a couple months, at least. Need to limit his innings so there’s no way Feliz should be winning a big league rotation spot out of ST.
I’m actually starting to think Feliz has a decent chance of starting in the minors, like I would prefer, because of the glut of arms in the bullpen.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
someone posted the Spring Training invites the other day
anyone know which thread that was in? can’t seem to find it
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
Newberg, this morning
…“pitchers Willie Eyre, Geoff Geary, Kasey Kiker, Clay Rapada, and Tanner Scheppers; catchers Emerson Frostad, Toby Hall, and Kevin Richardson; infielders Matt Brown, Esteban German, Ray Olmedo, and Justin Smoak; and first basemen-outfielders Mitch Moreland and Chad Tracy…”
thank you
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
For some reason, I'm watching Baseball Tonight.
A couple guys have the Rangers as a top 5 pitching staff in 2010. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Why wouldn't they be?
We were top five last year and our defense should arguably improve, or at least remain static.
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Defense as in fielding?
That’s not pitching. And there’s no way we were a top 5 pitching rotation (it was rotation, btw, I misspoke with staff) last year.
Hell, FG would have us 18th (though that’s without a league adjustment). I won’t be shocked if our rotation is better this year, but I will be a bit surprised if it’s top 5. Not the defense, the rotation.
Well, it depends on what your definition of "top five pitching staff" is
A sabermetrician like you is going to define “top five” based on FIP or some other advanced metric. To Baseball Tonight, “top five” will be based on something like ERA or runs allowed.
By your standard, the Rangers likely wouldn’t make the top five. But by their standard, where defense is a major factor in the rankings of the pitching staffs, I think it’s fair to say that we’ll be in or near the top five.
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I'm not necessarily going to define it on a specific stat. . .
. . . but I"m sure as hell not going to give pitchers credit for how well the fielders play. Pitching and fielding are different parts of defense.
No, definitely not
But if you’re talking the rankings of those appearing on Baseball Tonight…
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But they didn't say top five by ERA.
They stop top five period. Those are different things. So I stand by the original statement: I’ll believe it when I see it.
Fair enough
Everyone is going to think of something different when you say top five period and I certainly understand where you’re coming from. In fact, I don’t disagree.
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Do you really think Baseball Tonight sees them as that different of things?
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As far as your question:
The wouldn’t be because they weren’t anywhere close last year, and as much as I expect Holland to grow and Lewis and Harden to be an improvement, I don’t think it’s so much that it’s likely a top five staff. Not impossible, but not likely.
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"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Why in the name of god would that be the case?
He represents no upgrade over anyone we currently have.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Let me get this right...
19 HR, 71 RBI, and virtually the same OPS and average as our inept catchers last year is no upgrade? I mean, F me running, I’m getting into the OPS thing more and more – and I agree with it as a basis for offensive production – and his OBP and SLG etc. were pure crap – but you mean to tell me if we had 19 HR and 71 RBI out of our other-wise-useless-bag-of-crap 8th slot where the catchers were last year isn’t a legit improvement?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 10, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
His wOBA's the last 2 years are .307 and .282
He had a .258 OBP last year man. .258!!! Thanks to his power he was about the same productively as Salty and Tea, but he’s still a freaking terrible offensive player and and even more terrible fit for a lineup that struggles to get on base. He’s also freaking old.
This is the Pudge argument all over again, basically. Barajas would be a waste of money.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
looking further into this argument, it's one none of us can win
if you gave me a choice of Barajas and Salty or Salty and Teagarden, it’s a tossup. Are there better options out there? I don’t know. But I’d rather have a guy that HAS hit at a better clip here than the guys we currently have PLUS one of those guys than both of those guys…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 11, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
But if it's a tossup
Why exspend more money and a roster spot on a guy who really doesn’t offer a marked improvement of any kind?
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
to get a veteran in there that has had past production here
is my personal opinion; I was pro Pudge, too – and I think that was actually a good move…maybe you didn’t. Did it get us into the post-season? No. So maybe the results point towards going with the youth movement. But Salty, even though cleared as 100% healthy, to me isn’t even close to a sure bet as our starting C for 2010. And while I’d love to see Teagarden seize the job if the opportunity presents itself, I just don’t think you can throw your cards in with confidence in a year we’re supposed to seriously challenge for postseason play.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 11, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I just don't see how "past production" matters
When Barajas has been utterly terrible at the plate in three out of his last four years. My guess is you’ll get more value out of Rocco Baldelli or something than you will another spare catcher who is basically equally as bad as the ones you already have, and doesn’t have that much hope for improvement or positive regression at his age.
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