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Danny Gutierrez suspended 50-games for positive amphetamine test

From Evan

Gutierrez, who was recently ranked as the ninth best prospect in the Rangers system by Baseball America, tested positive for the amphetamine adderall, which is used to treated Attention Deficit Disorder. Gutierrez had a prescription for the drug, but did not apply for a waiver with MLB for therapeutic use of the drug. The suspension begins at the start of the 2010 season.

"I sincerely apologize to the Texas Rangers organization, Major League Baseball, and to my family for my failure to comply with the Minor League Drug Policy by failing to apply for and obtain a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption)," Gutierrez said in a statement released by the Rangers. "I understand that it was my responsibility to obtain a TUE even though the drug was prescribed by a doctor, and that I have let down myself and many others with my failure to do so. I greatly appreciate the support of the Texas Rangers front office and I am determined to serve as a better role model in the future."

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damn

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Feb 11, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

ruh roh

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

Holy shit this sucks...

I blame the snow.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Feb 11, 2010 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

heh

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 11, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh right...

this is why the Royals traded him.

by cmkelly29 on Feb 11, 2010 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

This kind of thing is so far down the list of reasons

of why the Royals traded him.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 11, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it isn't.

It’s a symptom of things that are high on the list.

by bhudson on Feb 12, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

douchebag

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Feb 11, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

He cut off his tweet too soon
@JonathanMayoB3 Not good: Rangers prospect Danny Gutierrez gets 50-game suspension for positive amphetamine test…and is immediately cut upon his reinstatement.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Is this serious

Sorry im not a tweeter so I don’t know

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

No

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I was joking

Sorry for the confusion.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be a little over 140...

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I tried to use big words

And even used the wrong tense…sheesh.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

So is Mayo wrong about that?

Surely the Rangers wouldn’t cut him based on what I read below

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by WestTxAg06 on Feb 11, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Mayo didn't write it

Rodney added that

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, haha

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales

by WestTxAg06 on Feb 11, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow. We just made KC look some what smart. I'm sad.

Enjoy Pina and Smith you bastards. Eh, good thing we didn’t need either one of those guys.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 11, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

Eh.. It's not like the rangers gave up much

Pina was eligible for rulev and Smith was good but not great.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Did KC protect Pina?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

You know, I'm not sure

but his ceiling was backup catcher anyway. I was a pina fan but the trade is good regardless

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah. And Smith was at best a 4th outfieder. That would be total top ceiling.

IIRC

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 11, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah.. well...

They drafted Hosmer, and left Smoak for us!

by cmkelly29 on Feb 11, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

What the Hell happened to Handsome Hosmer?

Man I was white tipping for that guy so freaking hard…

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 11, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah ditto...

.660 OPS between 2 levels of A balls last year.

90/53 K/BB

by cmkelly29 on Feb 11, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

He had vision problems and had lasik this offseason to see if that would help.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Feb 11, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah. Extra sprints and crunches for that dude.

Reminds me of the cross countries our high school coach made us run whenever we screwed around or whenever he just wanted to get rid of us.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Feb 11, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

and how does this make KC look smart? He didn’t beat anyone up…he didn’t fill out the correct paperwork for a prescription! Besides being suspended and not being able to play for 50 games, big f’n deal. He’s not gonna get cut over this.

"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...

by 8legs2fangs on Feb 11, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It shows his lack of responsibility

This allows him to play baseball… and he forgot to do it.. .or just didn’t.

Don’t make excuses for the guy. Let him become a man. I hope he does.

By the way, where is his brother at now…?

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by 306008 on Feb 11, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

“be a man” is one the most low-brow comments we can make in society today. What does that mean???

He’s a kid. I agree that it’s his problem to deal with…but in the end this is not that big of a deal

"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...

by 8legs2fangs on Feb 12, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

he's not a kid. He's a 20 year old adult getting paid substantially well to take care of his business

but i agree, it’s not that big of a deal

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 12, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Substantially well?

Bonus babies aside, most minor league players struggle to make ends meet. I think you would be surprised how many have to work jobs in the off-season just to support themselves.

by jparks77 on Feb 13, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

i recognize that, at that may well be the case here.

But isn’t that all the more reason to make sure you’ve got all your ducks in a row? You can’t afford a 50 game suspension if you’re this guy. And, hey I struggle to make ends meat, too, but you can be sure I’m doing everything when then time comes around to piss in the cup that I’m covered on every level, so I can be sure I’m getting that next paycheck.

It just displays an irresponsibility that irritates me to no end. But I shouldn’t get so worked up about it.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 13, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Minor league players

I think everyone should read Beau Vaughan’s blog posting about this subject. It’s very insightful and informative on the pay of minor league players.

http://rangersprospect.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/01/random-off-season-stuff.html

I wonder if he will continue to blog being in the A’s system now (if he does I’d assume he would need to change the sites name)

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 13, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Great read, thanks.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 13, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

First, I said some what smart.

Second, no he didn’t beat anyone up but it possibly shows a lack of maturity by thinking he didn’t need to get the waiver.
Third, not playing in 50 games is a bit of a big deal. He’s a young pitcher and the more work he gets in real life games the better. As a pitcher, that’s about 9 games give or take.

No he won’t get cut, but it’s just something else negative for this very promising pitcher. It looks like he’s treading water or regressing instead of moving forward in the “off the field” dept.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 11, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

x
@Greg_Schaum Gutierrez got popped for an ADD drug. Not what I thought he would get popped for http://tinyurl.com/y9rcmg2 #Rangers #Royals

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 3:51 PM CST reply actions  

From Evan
Gutierrez, who was recently ranked as the ninth best prospect in the Rangers system by Baseball America, tested positive for the amphetamine adderall, which is used to treated Attention Deficit Disorder. Gutierrez had a prescription for the drug, but did not apply for a waiver with MLB for therapeutic use of the drug. The suspension begins at the start of the 2010 season.

“I sincerely apologize to the Texas Rangers organization, Major League Baseball, and to my family for my failure to comply with the Minor League Drug Policy by failing to apply for and obtain a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption),” Gutierrez said in a statement released by the Rangers. “I understand that it was my responsibility to obtain a TUE even though the drug was prescribed by a doctor, and that I have let down myself and many others with my failure to do so. I greatly appreciate the support of the Texas Rangers front office and I am determined to serve as a better role model in the future.”

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah me too

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

if that's true

…the suspension seems way, way out of line.

by Black Francis on Feb 11, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Also from Evan
Because he is not on the 40-man roster, Gutierrez is subject to the rules governing minor league baseball. Minor League rules stipulate a player receive a 50-game suspension. Had he been on the 40-man roster, he would have received a warning

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The power of the MLBPA at work

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

that's ridiculous

you get a warning or a 50 game suspension. that seems fair.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Feb 11, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Kinda like life, eh?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

I spent the entire winter partying with Rangers prospect Danny Gutierrez. Would you like to see pictures?

by oc on Feb 11, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe you shouldn't just assume the guy was partying

he could have been in a gym for 10 hours straight. I don’t see how not filling out a form is any indication of what Guitierrez has been doing with his offseason.

I wonder who’s had a more productive last 3 months: you or him.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

well it's not like i'm not quick to say something like that

but i do think it is wrong to get mad at a player for not filling out paperwork and calling him lazy because of it.

and i do think it is interesting (like seriously interesting) that oc is the one with the complaint. i feel like he must be very self loathing.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Would they involve male on male nudity?

If not, then skip it…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

yer stylez played out

you need new moovz – the guy around the 1:35 mark is the best

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 11, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You obviously don’t understand the drug and it’s effect on athletes.

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Feb 11, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

OK so does he have ADD and this is just a screwup

Or is this serious PED?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

So ignorance. I guess I can take that. Or laziness. Not as good a reason.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 11, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

well if abused, it can be just as serious as greenies

but if he had a prescription, i guess it is not so bad. sucks that someone in the organization didn’t do this for him

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm curious how many players abuse adderal

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a very small percentage actually needed it.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there was a study on this

and it was an absurd amount of players that were classified as having ADD or ADHD. And I think one of the reasons given was that ADD kids are prone to being better athletes. right…

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm

not as many as I thought, 108 players

Still, I think it is at least double the national average.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Or about 1/3 of the national

College attendee average.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

that's not an excuse

this man’s a professional athlete, he even recognized ‘it was his resposibility’ to take care of it.

This player’s an idiot.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 11, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I think it would be a good idea

…for the teams’ medical staffs to apply for these waivers on behalf of their players. Lots of them don’t speak English and are in all kinds of culture shock. Not saying that’s the case here, and of course the players would still be responsible for disclosing their prescriptions to their team doctor.

by Black Francis on Feb 11, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I think idiot may be a little too harsh

He fucked up, realized it, admitted to it, and says he will be better in the future.

Gotta take him at his word till he proves he can’t keep it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah idiot is a little harsh

Failing to apply for the waiver is something that someone with A.D.D. would do.

He supposedly takes the drug so this kind of shit doesn’t happen!

by Evil Monkey on Feb 11, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

he didn't recognize it was his responsibility

that is the statememt (with boilerplate language) that him and the team decided on. I don’t see why it can’t be someone’s job in the organization to make sure that everyone on the 40 man + good prospects has stuff like this taken care of for them. It’s not like the team doesn’t suffer a lot by this happening.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

The Rangers don't suffer a ton by this

He wasn’t a candidate to make the Opening Day roster. He wasn’t in the picture to be a ML callup by June 1st even. He will still get work in extended spring. Basically hes missing out on ~10 starts in AA. If anything this may help the Rangers because they may have had a logjam in the upper levels that now may be eased.

It sucks for sure but its not the end of the world

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

why would that be a big assumption

they see guys’ medical records when working out trades, right?

And why can’t the team just ask all their guys if they don’t know.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats alot of guys

And some guys may not disclose it because they may be embarrassed or something. Its the players responsibility and he didn’t do it and has taken responsibility for not doing it.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't say it was a big assumption.

I don’t know what medical information is disclosed in trades, or how (e.g., from whom) that information is collected. I also don’t know that the club didn’t ask Gutierrez if he had prescriptions that it should know about.

by Snark on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

just seems like an easy fix

multimillion dollar organizations shouldn’t be suffering clerical errors. When dealing with such valuable assets, there need to be systems in place that don’t rely on 20 year olds that didn’t go to college (no offense to them but…you know) whenever possible.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that with more accountability built into all levels of the organization, this might have been avoided

but it still has to come down to this grown man getting paid a lot of money to know the rules and regulations and abide by them. Since he had a prescription, it shouldn’t have been any big deal just to tell the head doctor discretely, and gotten it cleared up. I have no proof, but even less doubt that many, many other players have managed to do it.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 11, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

no

at the base, these are grown men who are payed to play baseball and little else.

Show up on time, don’t get into trouble, train in the offseason, etc.

But there’s no reason to saddle them with extra responsibility when the organization, with minimal effort, can just handle if for them.

Good companies try to take away as much responsibility from their employees as possible in an effort to have their employees concentrate on the company. If you have the money, and baseball clubs certainly do, you put these systems into place.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

  I just don’t think the Rangers organization is of the mindset that that the players can’t be ‘saddled with the extra responsibility’ of making sure they are in good standing with the drug testing policy.

I feel pretty strongly if you asked JD or Wash or Nolan, “Who’s responsibility is it to make sure you pass your drug tests with no problem, the player’s or the organization?”, I’m pretty sure they’d tell you that it starts and ends with the player.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 11, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

well he didn't fail a drug test

his problem was he didn’t fill out a waiver. if JD tells me that it is the player’s responsibility to fill out waivers (and assuming there isn’t some other legal issue at play), I would tell him that’s not how it should be, there’s no redeeming benefit to having that system, and the most efficient thing to do would be to have the club do it for the players.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't say he failed a drug test

and I don’t want to be argumentative or repetitive, and again I agree there needs to be more oversight built into the system, but it has to come down to the player covering his own butt and darn well making sure the league knows about any substance in his system that isn’t ordinarily supposed to be there

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 11, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it's quite as easy as you're making it out to be,

but I could be wrong ~ my experiences with these sorts of things don’t extend to professional baseball organizations.

Still, collecting and managing medical information is often a nightmare, not least because it frequently depends on the full cooperation of patients and providers who aren’t always eager to be fully cooperative, for whatever reasons.

by Snark on Feb 11, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

And, again,

we don’t know that this was a “clerical error” attributable to the Rangers organization ~ unless you have evidence that someone didn’t, in fact, ask Gutierrez if he had any scrips they should know about, and/or that Texas had some other access to this information.

I’m not saying this isn’t at least partially the Rangers’ fault, either; I just don’t have enough information to make any assumptions about what happened.

by Snark on Feb 11, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right

if someone actually asked Gutierrez if he had prescriptions and Gutierrez said no, I can’t be mad at the Rangers. I just don’t see that as a likely scenario, especially the way the apology was written.

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

x

I would think that the medical dept in the Organization would know which players had what scrips and would advise what needs to be sent to the league. Maybe at the minor league level they don’t follow as closely as they might in the Bigs.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Feb 11, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

ADD

I have heard\read that baseball players have a high diagnosis rate of ADD. The prescription slows things down to help them concentrate.

by CONCRETE_GUY on Feb 11, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Or

maybe they are finding questionable doctors happy to write the a prescription for a drug that helps them play baseball.

by bdavison94 on Feb 11, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

A professional athelete would never do that!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

BINGO

That is sort of what I remeber the story related to.

by CONCRETE_GUY on Feb 11, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS!

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess a better way to say it would be that if you told me that he would get this suspension for a drug for which he has a prescription, but that it would be the worst thing, I’d take it any day.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of a Romo related topic

I read some excerpts of a John Mayer interview on the subject of Jessica Simpson. Let’s just say he had some very hot sports opinions on her and compared her to crack cocaine

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Sexual napalm.

I want to work this into a conversation sometime.

by Snark on Feb 11, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

she doesn't do anything for me

I think I’d rather smoke crack than screw her.

by Black Francis on Feb 11, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Me either

But it was pretty funny to see the phrase “sexual napalm”

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 11, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to smoke crack

while screwing her.

It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard.
- Nolan Ryan

by Flynnyrd on Feb 11, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

This!!

But, Fuck you.

by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 11, 2010 4:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

went without saying, really

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Feb 12, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Winner!

haha

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

x

that statement has caused this old man’s dreams to in living color. I don’t particularly want to talk to her but in bed looks like a dream to me.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Feb 11, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Can DGut pitch during extended or will he have to disappear himself for a coupla months?

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

He can pitch in Extended

Just cannot be assigned to a roster.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

If so then ... no big whoop.

Dude needs to smarten up a tad tho’. Fairly harmless way to get a wake-up call.
Whenever I hear about stuff like this I wonder what their agents do to earn their money.
Shouldn’t his agent have a sheet of rules for DGut to carry or have call-me-immediately instructions about what drugs you’re putting in your body? Sheesh – somebody’s a dumbie here – maybe they all are.

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I woulda thought the trade was a wake up call.

This could end up more along the lines of a taint-punch.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

His guy is Boras, btw

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Even stranger then.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Evan Grant needs to call Boras' office and asked why they are so incompetent.

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 11, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Why don't we?

Not sure if it’s accurate but you can google his company. I found it but I thought it would be poor form to post it here.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Feb 11, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I sent Jeff Frye an email

let you know if he replies

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 11, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Frye

was recovering from knee surgery I think and my daughter was playing little girls softball and Jeff came down to the East Side Baseball Fields and hung out with her team for a game. She is now 27 and still talks about how cool that was.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Feb 11, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Frye's response:
Erin,
.
That is very unfortunate for Mr. Gutierrez as well as the Texas Rangers organization. We are provided a list of all banned substances each year by MLB and we pass these along to our clients. Unfortunately some agents have so many clients that some fall through the cracks. I’m sure if it was Arod or Strassburg they would not have encountered this problem. When you have hundreds of clients the people at the bottom of the list don’t get the same attention as the one’s at the top of the list. Welcome to the world of Mr. Boras!
.
Jeff Frye

The best part of this is that my name is not Erin. heh

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 11, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

A shot?!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 12, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I wrote him once about all the grammatical errors on their site

Never got a reply and I wasn’t even an asshole or anything. I just figured they’d want to look professional.

by Black Francis on Feb 12, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Suspension

Does this mean he just cant appear in the first 50 games or he cant be around the team for 50 days, because if its the former then its CHANGEUPCHANGEUPCHANGEUP and more CHANGEUP work for you, son.

by nortorious on Feb 11, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

He'll probably just stay in AZ till it's up

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll likely stay in Suprise in extended until his suspension is up

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Good times

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Feb 11, 2010 4:09 PM CST reply actions  

....
@JesseSanchezMLB Rangers: Gutierrez told GM Daniels he tested positive for Adderall & has a prescription. JD did not confirm prescription but believes him.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

Ok great,

now we can all take a deep breath…

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Feb 11, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

it would be a nice lie

maybe a little ballsy. of course, he just bought himself some time before he has to track down a doctor who will be willing to write him a prescription

by ab03 on Feb 11, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

JD:
“We’re disappointed. While it appears this may have been the result of taking a legal drug, it demonstrates poor judgment that Danny didn’t let us know he needed a TUE, and that violates MLB’s program.
“It’s a setback, as he appeared ready for a strong year beginning in Frisco’s rotation. With hard work, that’s still possible. To his credit, Danny has communicated with us through this process and apologized to the organization. He’s also agreed to help educate his teammates so that they benefit from the situation. I expect him to set the example for our players in Surprise this spring with his work ethic.”

link

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 11, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

ditto

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Feb 11, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

So Guts didn't inform the Rangers he needed a TUE

Does that mean he didn’t tell them about the scrip? Thats the only thing I can think of

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 11, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

That sounds like a valid assumption.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Quite an Articulate Statement...

Maybe his calling is in public speaking rather than baseball. Oh, might’ve been prepared by his ^&$*@)R# (translated lawyer).

by NTSU on Feb 11, 2010 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

Oh Snap

Are you going to take that Adam?

by nortorious on Feb 11, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I said ^&$*@)R# ...

Not M**** F***ing ^&$*@)R#.

by NTSU on Feb 11, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You can type bad words here, nobody gives a fuck

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Meanie head

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 11, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Driving home this evening should be a blast,

looking forward to all the idiots that say they know how to drive in this sludge.

I’m probably one of those idiots.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Feb 11, 2010 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously

Wouldn’t the agent take care of this kind of stuff?

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi

by coolaid on Feb 11, 2010 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

This incident doesn't sound at all like his previous stuff

with the Royals. I’m inclined to let it slide & give the kid another chance…..It’s not like he was gonna be in Arlington this year anyway……He can still get around 100 minur league games in, and maybe 100-110 innings.

It’s not like a steroid positive or a DWI….he has a prescription for the stuff for Christ’s sake…..Maybe MLB is a little anal on this issue and he should appeal for a lesser sentence, maybe 25-30 games.

by tklawless on Feb 11, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Where the hell is his agent!?!?

Shouldn’t the responsibility be on him to take care of paperwork so the player can just play ball and make both of them money? Wow, fire that guy.

Support DG!

http://secondbaser.blogspot.com

by secondbaser on Feb 11, 2010 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

Well, that's an unfortunate way to clear up the logjam

of arms.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Feb 11, 2010 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

Holy crap

Every inch of ad space on LSB is covered with K-Y…..hot

"I think that Rangers is good team."-DemianBlue

by Pocket Ninja on Feb 11, 2010 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

This seems like a pretty bullshit deal

Even though it’s still Gutz for not getting a waiver.

But shit, getting 50 games for ADD meds he had a prescription for? Seems a little heavy handed.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 11, 2010 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

kind of a shitty deal

if its all true! Why is something like this left up to the player? you would think the team and/or the agent would take care of all of this stuff!

by blueballlefty on Feb 11, 2010 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

Or they told him to do it and he said,

I’ll do it… and then didn’t? No one can do that stuff “for” you.

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Feb 11, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully he gets his life figured out

I would love to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation with the GM…

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Feb 11, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

Is anyone doing this SB Nation / Facebook crossover thing?

I like having my LSB friends as my Facebook friends.. but I wouldn’t want 90% of the people on my friends list reading some of the crude shit I write here.

by cmkelly29 on Feb 12, 2010 7:45 AM CST reply actions  

you control what is shared both ways

your facebook friends don’t have to see what you write on LSB unless you explicitly decide to post it to your Facebook wall. nothing is shared automatically. that includes your Facebook identity on SB Nation / LSB.

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by Trei Brundrett on Feb 12, 2010 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean that's really what it does, is it links the comments you make on LSB on facebook?

Har.

Fuck, I’d prolly break the damn thing.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 12, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

It wouldn't surprise me if when you linked the item...

it said “This SB Nation to Facebook link is brought to you by KY Lubricants”

by cmkelly29 on Feb 12, 2010 8:19 AM CST up reply actions  

for the record

it does not automatically post comments you make on LSB to Facebook. you have the option to do that.

it also does not include a KY ad.

at the very least it’s useful as a single sign-on mechanism like OpenID or YahooID because you can login to LSB with your Facebook account. one less password to remember.

but you don’t have to do it. just an option for the folks that are into that sort of thing.

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by Trei Brundrett on Feb 12, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I know...

I’m just messing around really. Did you help with the integration of this?

by cmkelly29 on Feb 12, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

yes, I did

I lead the product team at SB Nation

also from Texas, so although I’m primarily an Astros fan, much of my family are Rangers fans and I read LSB daily

and one of our developers is an LSB junkie and active member

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by Trei Brundrett on Feb 12, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a cool idea...

nice work. I think a lot of people will utilize it.

by cmkelly29 on Feb 12, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

and one of our developers is an LSB junkie and active member

ab03?

by cmkelly29 on Feb 12, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

dustym

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by Trei Brundrett on Feb 12, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Nah, it's not ab03

I know who he’s talking about, though I can’t remember the exact username. Dusty something I think.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 12, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

but you don’t have to do it. just an option for the folks that are into that sort of thing.

so it’s like the KY?

by MikeEl on Feb 12, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

I’m just funnin’, since the thought of me filling up my friends FB news feeds with LSB comments is slightly amusing.

I doubt I’ll use it, but you never know. Maybe it’ll come in handy the next time I come up with a cool LSB pie chart.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 12, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

we figured that most folks would share their fanposts + fanshots on Facebook

but we also know that sometimes there are epic comments in reply to a good post and that someone might want to share their genius w/ all their high school friends they haven’t talked to in 10 years

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by Trei Brundrett on Feb 12, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

geez

people overreact.

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Feb 12, 2010 8:13 AM CST reply actions  

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