Sunday Rangers things
by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 12:36 PM CST
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PrintEvan Grant has a spring training preview with lots of numbers and quotes. Grant picks three guys who need to rebound from last year, and they're the three most of us would choose, Ian Kinsler, Josh Hamilton and Chris Davis. The quotes from Kinsler and Davis are interesting, given all of the offseason talk about their respective approaches at the plate. Some of the numbers are also telling, check it out.
Jeff Wilson has a piece this morning on Hamilton and his ongoing trials.
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Cant wait for April 5th
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by FormerLSBUser on Feb 14, 2010 12:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
So Ian Kinsler
needs to rebound from an OPS+ of 107 as a second baseman?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
Since that's down from 133
I think a rebound to closer to that number would be something to hope for.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
So you think 133 is repeatable?
you dont think that was simply his career year? His OPS+ during his 4 years in the majors: 105, 108, 133, 107. IMO, he is not a guy you should expect a 125-135 number from. We should expect a 110 number from him and hope he plays defense at the same level.
If anyone is expecting around a 133 from Kinsler they are going to be disappointed. However, maybe he clicks with Hurdle, maybe he has realized that he needs to cut down on the flyballs (pop-ups sometimes). We will see but I believe we witnessed a career year from Kinsler in 2008 and to expect a number like that in 2010 is going to lead to disappointment.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 14, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Did you read the article?
Kinsler’s flyball to groundball ratio wasn’t just bad it was historic! There really is room for improvement. I’m as big a defender of Kinsler as anyone and agree that 107 OPS+ from second is better than a lot of teams get but he’s better than that. It’s good to see he knows that too.
He’s always had an uppercut swing but he’s never had this many flyballs which pleasantly means he can be better.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
sure did read the article
I just think that people expecting another 2008 season arent going to get it. Im just getting tired of people saying he needs to rebound when his season wasnt bad at all. Do i think he is capable of more? Of course, but to say he needs to rebound from 2009 is not fair.
I was buoyed by the quote where he admitted he needed to fix his problem. He has seemed very stubborn and defensive in the past when it has been brought up.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 14, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
ummm...
wanting Kinsler to have a better season doesn’t mean he has have better than a 107 OPS+…
It means we would like for him to cut down on the popups and pulling the ball, and wanting him to be a more rounded hitter.
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
Well, if he doesn't do better than a 107 OPS+ then he's probably not a better hitter.
So that leaves defense. Which I doubt he’ll top his ’09 performance in any time soon.
I'd be surprised if '08 wasn't his career year offensively. . .
. . . but I’ll also be surprised if he can’t be a bit better than ’09.
That's how I feel
and why I said 115-120 OPS+ below. I think he can maintain that for several more years if he adjusts his approach. I’m less sanguine about him keeping that high UZR rating from last year, he’ll probably slip back to average. I’ll take the overall package happily if that happens.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Well said.
I think his overall production of the last couple years is just about what we can expect going forward. Fielding somewhere between ’08 and ’09 and offense somewhere between the two balances out to about the same result (honestly maybe a little better).
That's the wrong way to look at it.
Do you really want a player settling for “good enough?” In that article he says exactly the right things. Sure, I like a 2B with a 107 OPS+ and solid defense. But I’d LOVE a 2B with a 115-120 OPS+ with solid defense who deserves MVP votes, and he’s certainly capable of being that.
I’m not one of those who ragged severely on Kinsler last year despite his well above average play. But I’m certainly excited about the possibilities if he adjust his approach and fulfills his potential.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
When did i say "good enough"?
I just think that characterizing it as “rebounding” is simply not correct. To me, that insinuates he had a poor year.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 14, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
His production dropped a lot
from 2008 to 2009. If he “rebounds” (or whatever word makes you feel better) he’ll do much better than 107 OPS+.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
If Albert Pujols had a 111 OPS+
I think we’d expect him to rebound.
107 OPS+ can be a poor year, it is all about what expected is
Go Rice Owls!
Depends how he gets that 107 OPS+
If hes batting in the 5th hole all season I will gladly take a repeat of last season.
If hes batting leadoff I would rather have his 2007 season where he was a 108 OPS+ but had higher averages and on base percentages
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That's a great article from Grant
and a welcome change from some of the slightly goofy and tortured analogy articles he’s written as previews in the past.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I noticed that as well.
I guess it’s time to churchy up the place now that the season is about to begin.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Not sure what yu mean by analogy pieces since I don't read him everyday
But it was truly a great article.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
For Wyoming that's probably a very good article
but I consider it fairly standard and nothing special. I think EG should have delved more into Davis not getting more walks because that’s the key to becoming a better hitter.
Now, I will say It’s nice having any kind of baseball news to read..
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
For Wyoming that's probably a very good article
You’re better at digs than that.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Just stretching the hamstrings right now, BP.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
When your style of writing is lather, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat
I’m sure Evan’s article was a little offputting for you. Go curl up in Grandpa Urine’s archives for a while and you’ll feel better.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I totally agree. No more of those articles based upon the titles of songs.
And, good riddance.
I think EG has done something here that FrankiePiliere does in his scouting approach. I think it was Frankie that had a chat and I asked about the relative importance of statistics and eyeballs in his approach, and he said that he uses statistics to find out what a player does or doesn’t do but then uses his eyeballs to see how the statistics are compiled.
EG has done that here, it appears. Very welcomed approach.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
I absolutely love looking at Chris Davis's numbers now that the season is over.
There can honestly be no way he can do any worse. And he was so bad for so long last year, it had quite an impact on the team. Even marginal improvement on his part will be a huge uptick in the offense and the team as a whole. Bring on 2010 and the year of 950 runs!
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Goldstein on Davis
Kevin Goldstein was a guest on Minors and Majors this morning, and the host him Goldstein would take the under or over on Smoak getting to the majors. Goldstein took the over stating that this has more to do with Davis and the adjustments he made last season in the minors than the progress Smoak made.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Feb 14, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't it noneother than Josey Wales
who recently talked about how bad Davis was when he had two strikes on him and how it was such a problem? I talked about it last season and I think I said something about it this past week.
I’ll be sold he’s beginning to turn a corner as a hitter when he walks a lot more than the 7 times he walked in 142 plate appearances upon coming back.
In a related note, I sincerely hope this team gives Max a serious look at 1B in ST.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Lol only the great Josey Wales knew about Davis and his trouble with two strikes
Because it wasn’t obvious, or anything.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Hold up
So you are seriously hope Max, a guy who hasn’t “conquered AAA pitching”, gets a serious look at 1B in ST
Yet when people bring up Smoak as Davis’ replacement you say “lets see him do something in AAA first”
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
bigsteve
is right when he brings up how Josey Wales contradicts himself. Michael Cave likes to point this out especially Josey Wales refers to himself in 3rd person.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 14, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Cave
don’t underrate the possibiilty that I know when Josey Wales refers to himself in the 3rd person, he knows he’s pushing the buttons of a lot of people in here looking for something to bitch about.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
okay
that is actually kind of funny ha
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 14, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
It has to do with age of the players involved and the fact
that we don’t have a fall back option if Davis craps the bed again.
Max’s problem last year was injury and not the fact that he was in over his head. He also turns 26 in October. I’d like to find a way to keep Max on the team so Wash will feel like he can ph for Salty or Teagarden when necessary.
I think Smoak will be a good player in The Show but I’d like to see him master AAA. Smoak’s problems last year in AAA had nothing to do with injury.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Other than the oblique stain?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Chris Davis
I hope he just flat out murders opposing pitching next year if for no reason than to get a certain someone to finally shut the fuck up. Good God has there ever been anyone more repetitive?
by Black Francis on Feb 14, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
For the record,
I’m rooting for Chris Davis but nothing he did last year makes me think he turned a corner. My optimism is based on his age and what he did in 2008.
The healing has begun.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
For the record
I hope you go out to a game this season and Chris Davis fouls off a tough two-strike pitch and hits you square in your giant head with it.
by Black Francis on Feb 14, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Nothing Grant just reported today is sufficient to make you think he turned a corner last year?
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
No.
See 7 walks in 142 plate appearances. In 568 plate appearances, that’s 28 walks. That’s unacceptable.
He was better than he was in the first half but that bar was set pretty low.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Turn that question on you.
Just what in EG’s article makes you think that Chris Davis has turned the corner? Please don’t tell me the David Price AB.
I guess I have no meaningful reply to you then.
I wouldn’t say the David Price AB was the one thing, but I think it was an indicator of what is different about Chris Davis before and after his demotion.
He went to AAA. He did the following things:
(1) Flattened his swing.
(2) Looked to hit more up the middle.
He took those two things to the plate when he came back. When he faced Price, he found not only did those two things get him back to the majors but he was able to use those adjustments to scale back his swing in a 2-strike situation that ultimately ended with a hit the opposite way.
So, yeah, I think Grant has hit on something here. I think it was an incredibly astute observation.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
For the record...
When you start with ‘For the record’, you might as well be typing in Burmese. Nobody gives a fuck what you have to say, and ABSOLUTELY nobody cares. IMHO
Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron
anyways, every comment is "in the record"
by kevinkinsler on Feb 14, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Off the record
Josey Wales is an ass that has no business here if he just repeats himself over and over and over.
For the record I really hope April 5th when the great Josey Wales is driving towards the Temple we get a report of a car wrapped around a phone pole and the jaws of life have been dispatched.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Really
Completely and utterly unnecessary.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
Flag it then
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Oh and for the record
I never said I wanted him to die.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Okay
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
It should also be noted
that Boomer thought the entire Firebat joke series of wishing cancer upon others was hilarious even though his own father supposedly died of cancer.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
He did
April 17, 2007 Look it up I sold my Opening Day tickets here that year.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
I believe you and your story about your father.
I also can’t believe you’d be a party to anything your dumb Okie brain would perceive to be humorous about wishing cancer on somebody else if you watched your dad suffer as much as he did.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 14, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Question for you Josey
Just out of curiosity, and because I’d like to keep the discussion going, what, in your opinion, would constitute mastery of AAA for Smoak?
And if he hits that point, where do the Rangers go from there?
What qualifies as mastery of AAA?
I’d say an OPS in excess of .900 for Smoak. I think he’ll get there but I’d like to see him do it first.
I simply can’t believe we’re going into this season acting like that historically crap season from Davis didn’t really happen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Or, stated another way
What kind of stats from Smoak will make you say, Yep, he’s ready for The Show?
.400 obp & .500 slugging %
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yet you want Max getting a serious look at 1B this spring?
You want the guy who put up this line at age 24 in AAA
234/ 323/ 336
to get a serious look at 1B this spring so he can be our backup plan should Davis fail. Yet the guy who had this line at age 22 in AAA needs to show more?
244/ 363/ 360
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I put more stock in Max's career (6 years) .398 obp
than I do an injury plagued year at AAA.
It’s not like Max embarrassed himself in The Show back in 2008 with 55 plate appearance (.360ish obp?)..
I think Max has a better chance to impact the major league team this year but that Smoak will ultimately have the better major league career. Make sense?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Check that
Max had a .345 obp in The Show back in 08.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The other side of the equation in my desire
to get Max here is because Washington is very reluctant to ph for his catchers.
Having Max on the team allows that to happen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
How is Max gonna ph for the catchers if hes playing 1B?
Since he is the fallback option should Davis flop. Or do you want him to sit on the bench as a ph only when he could be playing everyday down in OKC?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If Max is playing 1B
you can used Davis as a ph.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 15, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
And Smoak came from a big time college where his OBP were always in the mid 400s
And has a career 403 OBP in the year plus in the minors.
Oh and Smoak is a natural 1B whereas Max has very little experience there.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
.
I think looking at Max and Smoak’s lines from last year aren’t really fair. Both were hurt and had produced extremely well the past few seasons. I’m almost willing to throw both out. Comparing them to each other based on last year’s numbers isnt the way to go
by nathanbaum09 on Feb 14, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
I would agree in most cases
This isn’t one of those however because Josey has made it a point everytime Smoaks name gets mentioned that Smoak needs to conquer AAA first before we count on him as a fallback option should David flop again. Yet here Josey says he wants Max to get a serious look at 1B in spring so that he can be that fallback option should Davis flop. Throwing out the fact that Smoak is a natural 1B and Max has very little time there, I find it odd he wants a guy who has thrown up lines of 243/ 293/ 432 and 234/ 323/ 336 at an older age over a guy whos considered a top prospect in all of baseball and had a line of 244/ 363/ 360 last year.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
just saying
I like the positional flexibility Max would give the roster as well. If Salty or Tea is primary, and there’s true back up (somebody who’ll only get 1 start a week on average), then Wash and most manager would almost never pinch hit for their catchers. If Max is the right-handed bat off the bench/25th man, it frees Wash to pinch hit more for Tea or Salty late in the game
Smoak's problem in AAA had nothing to do with injury? You ever try to hit a baseball or swing a golf club with a strained oblique?
Rather bold statement.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 14, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Hey if Josey can do everyday things with his head up his ass
Whats an oblique strain compared to that?
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
by red3biggs on Feb 14, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I pointed this out too
You probably didn’t notice because Josey ignored it, as he normally does things like science and facts and correctness.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I'm gonna need an answer on this one.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 14, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
My single problem with Evan's article is that the Rangers were third worse in AL OBP total
The fact you can’t get on base with two strikes isn’t the problem. They couldn’t get on base period. .320 isn’t going to cut it.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Why isn't that the problem?
Strikeouts were clearly an issue for this team last year so if the team can change those 2 strike counts from being strikeouts to getting on base, that’s going to help out the OBP a lot.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
They are capable
In 2008 they were 2nd in the AL in OBP. Even if you exclude Bradley’s league leading OBP they would have still been second. Otherwise it was pretty much the same group of players but:
2008 with 2 strikes
.280 OBP
9.4 walk rate
.322 BAbip
2009 with 2 strikes
.240 OBP
7.7 walk rate
.291 BAbip
If at the end of the 2010 season we look back
and say that Hurdle was the most valuable off season signing then I think that This Thing will have gone very well.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
maybe,
that could also mean that the Harden/Colbayashi signings didn’t pan out well
by kevinkinsler on Feb 14, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
The Hamilton story is really tiresome
He’s all about God, then he isn’t, then he is, then he isn’t, now he is again. Who flippin’ cares? Just go back to hitting the ball hard on a consistent basis.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by LSBUser on Feb 14, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Concur...
I couldn’t care less if you think it’s Jesus that is helping you hit and stay clean/healthy or not.
As Nike would say – Just do it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
God you're annoying
If someone makes a post or references an article that mentions spiritualism or emotion, we can be sure you’ll be there to piss on the flame.
Has Hamilton really been shoved in your face? Are you distracted by a huge cross that I’m not seeing?
by ab03 on Feb 14, 2010 5:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He has been shoved in our faces
But it’s really not the spiritual aspect that bothers me. I hope his walk with God works for him and he gets his life turned around, I really do. It just gets tiresome to hear about anything as much as we hear and read about Hamilton and his off the field stuff. It’s like the media is just out of stuff to write about.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by LSBUser on Feb 14, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
Unfortunately
it remains an important topic. You cannot write about Hamilton in any meaningful way without mentioning it. That’s like asking Jackie O how she liked Dallas and expecting her to forget her hubby being shot.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
strikeouts
Hurdle was he Rockies hitting instructor for 5 years starting from 1997. From 1998 to 2001, the Rockies had the fewest Ks in the NL.
Expect the Rangers to put the ball in play more than last year, especially with 2 strikes.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
WWWWWweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......
All aboard the Hurdle Wagon!
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
But...
The Rockies have been consistently in the top 5 in strikeouts since then with him as the manager.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by LSBUser on Feb 14, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Everybody off!!!
: )
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Oww, my neck!
I’m gonna sue a bitch…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
That's my job here on the blog
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by LSBUser on Feb 14, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, that's the disappointment in last year.
He can be an MVP-caliber player.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
I know.. that actually caught my eye as well when I first read it.
I’ll be so offended if it isn’t… heh.
Given the topic of the email
Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff would be good for some.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I'm just upset that I didn't actually get the email in question
So that I could be offended.
by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I think sending out a plug for something in that context is pretty lame, considering we get the newsletter for baseball musings and breaking news, and it’s the reason I don’t like the stuff about his kids, but I can’t imagine getting upset or offended.
by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
The stuff about his kids really got to me at one time
when we had just lost a baby when my wife was 5 months along. We have since had a little girl, now 6, so I understand his point, but it was still really fucking tough to take at the time.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
I must have missed that
But the direct tv thing. If people were e-mailing him saying they were offended then they need to actually get offended.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
BTW, there wasn't any single thing
about his children. It was just the constant talking about them that rubbed me the wrong way for a while. Time heals all wounds.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
Sorry to hear.
I understand wanting to talk about your kid all the time, but I try hard not to be that guy most of the time. I can’t imagine anything more crushing than losing your kid.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Thanks, man!
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
I told him about that stuff like a year ago and he just told me well I can unsubscribe..
heh. W/e I want the Rangers news..I just don’t care about your personal life and didn’t see that listed in the fine print whenever I signed up for the newsletter.
I also mentioned the DirectTV thing last year to him, and this (before he even sent it). I wonder who said something that got him to apologize..cause he obviously doesn’t care about the average fan or subscriber.
Unsubscribing
Well, I think he did say at the end that you do have the choice to unsubscribe.
Anyhow, Adam does the same thing on this blog.
The difference was in this e-mail he said it like if you were so offended that you don't want to get it anymore, though I won't pump DTV ever again
In the personal e-mail to me a year or so ago, it was more like ‘oh well, if you don’t like it then unsubscribe..i’m going to keep doing it’
It was just uncalled for. And heh..yeah and I’m such a big fan of Adam’s.
Except...
he’s right. It’s his newsletter. If you don’t like the content, unsubscribe. He doesn’t have to, nor should he, change anything because you don’t like a certain aspect of what he decides to do with his newsletter.
Seriously, why would you bitch about something, ESPECIALLY something that is free for you to use, just because you don’t one or two things? Is it really that hard to ignore an email or two?
It doesn’t make sense. You have an easy option to avoid said content. Don’t read it.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 14, 2010 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
I didn’t ask him to stop, just simply told him I did not know that was a part of the package when I signed up. And no, he doesn’t mark which emails in his subject are about his family, and since I don’t want to ignore the Rangers news I have to open and begin reading before I find out it’s about how he spent his Father’s Day.
His response to me was what I was referring to was uncalled for. I wasn’t telling him to stop or anything, just how I felt and he somewhat went off and insulted me in a response to that.
Then for him to apologize for almost the same thing cause someone else complained..a year later.. is somewhat offending in itself heh. And take into account he didn’t know who I was at the time, so I was just a random subscriber that he acted inappropriately towards.
Mike E...
What’s your name or email address? I’d like to find this email you’re talking about.
by Jamey Newberg on Feb 15, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
If you'd rather not post those here, you can email me at GJSneaker@sbcglobal.net
by Jamey Newberg on Feb 15, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Mike E's going to wind up in the Trinity River bottoms now....
Don’t do it Mike E!!!!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 15, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not having seen either your message or his reply...
… I can’t really comment on how either of you handled the interchange. I would point out that it is much easier to misunderstand or misinterpret the tone of an e-mail (or other textual message), lacking clues like body language and voice tone/level. So while you may not have intended it to come across as critical/hostile and Jamey may not have meant for his response to come across as hostile, one or both of you may have taken it that way.
uncalled for?
it’s his effing newsletter. are you making a false advertising claim or something? how exactly have you been harmed. seems to me your life is probably more of a waste of time than reading a post about his kids.
i’m glad he told you to fuck off (and upset he didn’t use those words)
People baffle me sometimes
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
you can complain to him all you want
i just find it hilarious that you feel wronged that nothing came of your (stupid) complaint
We've already read from other people here that I'm not alone on this, and has indeed emotinoally affected someone
So just cause YOU don’t care about it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t offend others. Get over yourself.
that was a unique situation
and it certainly wasn’t a flagrant attempt
and nobody in the world could rationally think jamey was at fault for including stuff about his kids in a very personal newsletter (that’s basically the email version of a blog).
I just can’t imagine that you are a real person. but the capitalization…it’s just all too perfect
I remember one
that was had like the same picture of Max 5-6 times and he said ‘this is Max thinking " " in the 3rd inning as Kinsler grounds out’ and kept that same thing like 5 more times saying a different thing he was thinking each time..same picture.
Vexing
The context was obvious (something in it for you, okay), the benefit to readers was spelled out. But then you can just delete if not interested.
But isn’t the real big picture that someone writing a newsletter has the floor with the newsletter? That’s…what it means to write it.
You should offer Amway in the next NMLR. See if people get so offended they forget the entire listserv concept again.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 14, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
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