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Freebie from Jason and, as always, great information in there

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Good stuff

Hes definitely a guy to keep an eye on next year as a 17 year old in Spokane

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 5:28 PM CST reply actions  

I'll never understand it...

Why not just ink a Mike Bascik (known quantity/quality with experience and track record) rather than a pie-in-the-sky prospect?

PROSPECT, damnit?

Is it just the mystery/intrigue?

Or, is it the up-side that one may super-impose on the unknown/untested player?

Is it the antithesis of the “devil that you know vs. the devil that you don’t know” bromide that leads to this fascination?

Just kill me.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 6:20 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

And haven't you just added to the suckiness?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

nope

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 14, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Insightful comeback, but OT.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

So is your stance

that the Rangers would be best served dedicating next to nothing on amateur scouting and focus those savings on supplementing the major league team?

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

he also wants to sign mike bascik

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Feb 14, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Stance?Just questions.

Mystery regarding the unknown.

Super-imposed upside.

Fascination with the unknown.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh?

So you’re not saying anything about the Rangers signing Alvarez, but you have a problem with Cole interviewing him and/or me linking that?

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Believe me, I'm not taking it personal

I’m trying to figure out what you’re objecting to, and you’re responses are very cryptic.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy cow, I asked questions and got attacked, then I reciprocated.

If no one wants to answer the questions, then fine. I understand.

Question: What’s the fascination with unknown quantities, prospects?

But if everyone just wants to pile on a jackanape, let’s go.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the fascination

is that it’s where all of the players come from.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Such as Tanner Scheppers?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

what the hell does that mean?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Feb 14, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Such as everyone

Alex Rodriguez was a prospect at one time. Every single player was a prospect at one time

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably. It's pretty likely Scheppers will be in the majors this years.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Feb 14, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

It's just that....

Alvarez seems ordinary for that profile. Doesn’t he? Go.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you mean: ordinary for a major leaguer?

Compared to a major leaguer he is ordinary, but he’s 16 and it’s yet to be seen what he’ll be when he’s 20, 21, 22 and ready for a major league tryout.

Do you think the profile should’ve been about major leaguers? Is that your deal?

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Feb 14, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

After a hard hitting 19 posts,

I’m thinking it’s impossible to get this person to understand logic.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Feb 14, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Notice where Jason ranks him

BA ranks him at #30 in the system. He is certainly a question mark at this point. Not sure how familiar you are with the readership here, but there are a lot of readers who have a nuanced, advanced understanding of prospects, and sometimes posts don’t involve the very best or one of the 4-5 best prospects in the system.

I can imagine that it seems over the top, but the conversation here and around Rangers outlets these days is often pretty advanced. This would qualify as a topic more suited for those who have really done their homework and know their Rangers shit. Those types are interested in items and players past the handful of headline makers.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, appreciate that, really.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

For what it's worth

I don’t know that Adam would have added this to the front page if he were here today. I think that Alvarez is an interesting player, so I put it on the front page, rather than only creating a fanshot and keeping it over on the side. That fact that things are really slow right now also contributed.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yah, what was the deal with all that?

I got an e-mail followed by an apalogy.

Did someone freak out about The Newberg sending that out or something?

I don’t hang out on The Newberg’s site at all so I really have no idea.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 14, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

That really is dumb

if you don’t want the advertisement just say so or better yet delete it but to get all huffy and make Jamie apologize just seems rather excessive. Making him feel all guilty and offering his book for free? He’s providing a service, if you don’t like how he does it opt out. Don’t pitch a fit and cause a kerfuffle.

by Hull Fan on Feb 15, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

So your objection

has to do with looking at Venezuelan prospects?

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe he's not a fan

of Hugo Chavez and the Ranger’s continually stimulus of the Venezuelan economy?

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Feb 14, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

In Venezuela's current state..

…I think calling it an economy is an overstated and unwarranted compliment.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 14, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

No...

It’s the “that’s where they all come from” vs. Venezuela.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

What I meant

was that they all come from prospect-dom. As I said, I am having a hard time pinning down exactly what subject to respond to.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

On the re-read that's what I thought...

Now what’s the fascination with the unknown/prospect in baseball? Hope springs eternal?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Because some prospects turn into good players

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 14, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you, is that all there is to it?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

follow-up

good players → good teams → championships.

by chrisR on Feb 14, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you not comprehend that at one time every player is an unknown?

Some you have a better idea about than others but they are all unknowns/prospects at one point

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the same as everywhere.

We like to learn about the unknown because they’re unkown.

There are already a wealth of stats and news coverage out there about the guys in the majors and even most of the upper level guys (like, say, Kiker and Beavan), but when there’s a highly touted youngster just starting to make his bones, it’s interesting to read and article about him and learn a little about the guy.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 14, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I bow to you o great dirkatron...

If I might ask, why are they highly touted?

Honor me with your answer, o dirkatron.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I call Bit.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Because the show great potential at a young age.

A guy like Alvarez is remarkable because he’s succeeded at a level you wouldn’t usually expect someone his age to perform, let alone succeed.

From what I can gather my guess is that scouts, coaches, and minor league observers have seen something in him that makes them think he might be something special someday.

Just like in any other sport (remember all the Lebron hype?), people are always interested in who’s NEXT.

For most of us hardcore fans we’ve already heard all about most of our minor leaguers, so to get an in depth piece on a greasy young bucket of potential like Alvarez is interesting to us.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 14, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

'nuff said, and thanks.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Ex. A

Neftali Feliz was a largely unknown prospect when the Rangers traded for him. It’s fun when the kids turn into big leaguers. Most wash out; it’s the nature of the game. It’s really fun when a kid you’ve followed for three or four debuts and, perhaps, succeeds in the bigs. It adds another dimension to my enjoyment of the game.

by Neftali's arm on Feb 14, 2010 10:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Read through his posts. His objections are ever-changing.

This is a poor attempt from a broke man’s Josey.

by LiamP on Feb 14, 2010 7:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

you have the

craziest victim mentality I have ever seen. This is no onslaught

by CS3 on Feb 14, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I overstated it.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that you T.R.?

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha, that's funny.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what happened to me there. I used the adjective instead of the adverb intentionally because he did, but you’re/your is a pet peeve of mine.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh no, that really wasn't what I was pointing out.

It was more about your response to his “cryptic responses”. Apparently T.R. writes in cryptograms.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Where do you think major league players come from?

Do you think they were all born at age 27 with skills fully developed?

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Feb 14, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Pods.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

They are

if they’re Miguel Angel Sano.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Feb 14, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

No, Just yours.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

jackanape

Born: February 13, 2010
Died: February 14, 2010

R.I.P.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

No one into psychology of the game here, eh?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What psychology?

Do you really not know why signing proven mediocre at best veterans is not a good idea if it comes at the expense of the minor league system?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 14, 2010 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What questions?

your post made no sense

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 14, 2010 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

ok, ok, ok, i wanna answer!, i wanna answer!, i wanna answer!

this isnt coming from a pro scout or something, but mike bascik sucks, and has for years. The rangers have a history of spotting young LA talent, specifically from Venzuela and it turning to gold. see martin perez. see scouting even before they signed on feliz and andrus. see font, see profar, see alverez.

BA and every other respected prospect analysis says the rangers are the deepest in talent in all of mlb, and that comes from our scouting and plucking of young awesomely talented kids who may someday be the next pedro. we have the deepest system from getting 3 or 4 guys like alverez for the cost of one or 2 mike bascik or slightly better b/c bascik was aweful 2 or 3 years ago and i assume you meant you know, some1 decent in place of a high priced 16 year old. if thats what you meant b/c what did gdawg say? i forgot…

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Feb 14, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

just b/c you dont know anything about a guy doesnt mean no1 else does.

ignorance is bliss go live on your flat earth

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Feb 14, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought the earth was round?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't be dumb.

You think the earth is just one giant ’stache.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Feb 14, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Your momma.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That's my bit Ryan. Back off...

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Your daddy

Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Feb 14, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

its not off topic

Your post sucked. It made little to no sense and what little sense it might have made was BS.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 14, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Brilliant...

your post sucked and was BS. There, take that fucktard.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Just kill me.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

if things were just that easy.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Feb 14, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Get a rope

Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Feb 14, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

im rec'ging this

for straightforwardness and not beating around the bush in what you think. rarely in these topics has such a blunt statement gone off. i take note sir.

Your post sucked and you suck for posting it.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Feb 14, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

confusion mounts

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy shit.

It’s bizarro Goyogringo.

by LiamP on Feb 14, 2010 7:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Somehow I get the feeling this is a bit.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 14, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I used to

believe everything was a bit too, until I read the DMN comment section and realized that a lot of people have a lot of stupid in them.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Feb 14, 2010 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

If you stab big holes in them ...

the stupid will drain out.

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 14, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Greened bitch. Heh

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know, Germany?

"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Feb 14, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus he torments us on Norm's crappy radio show

I am convinced that the higher ups at The Ticket see Bacsik as a Greg Williams starter kit.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by LSBUser on Feb 14, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I should rec this.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Hypothetical...

and I can’t get anyone to answer my questions about the fascination with the unknown/prospect in baseball.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Well put

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 14, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, and just asking why the fascination?

Is there an EXTENSIVE system in place that puts these Alvarez’s on a loftier perch than others?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Their skill set puts them on a loftier perch

Not everyone can go out and throw a baseball ~90 mph. Much less control it and throw other pitches. And its even rarer to find a kid his age doing these things.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

But Alvarez is throwing high 80's, right?

Damn it, I’m not trying to argue, just find out. High 80’s=big time?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't referring to Alvarez specifically

But the “~” usually means “around” so I was saying “throw a baseball around 90 mph”

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's a good question

Because of his age and build, there is still the potential that he could throw harder as he matures. As Jason outlines, what makes him really intriguing is that he has a lot more going for him than just his velocity. Therefore if he does add a little extra, he could be something special.

A pitcher like Alvarez becomes more interesting if you look backwards a bit. When we ask how certain pitchers weren’t absolute phenoms, how they were obtained relatively cheaply, the answer is that they looked a lot like Alvarez does now. Martin Perez is a good example of this. He didn’t consistently hit 90 mph when the Rangers signed him, and he’s now, at the age of 18, considered one of the couple best – if not the best – left handed prospect in baseball.

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You didn't answer my question

I don’t understand what Mike Bacsik has to do with this. Are you saying that the Rangers should sign several Bacsiks, guys in their late-20s/early-30s who have never really made it in the majors, instead of spending money on acquiring talent through the draft or international free agency?

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 14, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Pulled...

a known quality/quantity pitcher out of the hat just as an illustration. What is the fascination with an unknown commodity(Alvarez) over a known commodity(Bascik)? I’m just asking, and not trying to increase the server load. I could’ve picked anyone, Bascik came to mind. Is the fascination the antithesis of the old saw “the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know”? I thought it was a straightforward question.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay

I’m still confused.

Are you wanting to know why there isn’t more talk about Bacsik, for example, on this board, compared to prospects?

It is probably because everyone knows what Bacsik, for example, is. He’s not a major league caliber pitcher. He’s not in the Ranger organization. He has zero chance of impacting the Rangers going forward.

Or are you asking why the Rangers aren’t trying to sign Bacsik?

That’s what made your original post so confusing…it didn’t really make much sense, and to the extent that sense could be made of it, it didn’t really make any sense.

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 14, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I applaud you for trying

to continue the conversation.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Feb 14, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just shaking my head.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

gd lawyers.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 14, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

As am I

Gotta be a sock puppet right?

Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009

by boomer1 on Feb 14, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt.

I always think oc, when it comes to bits.

by octoberty on Feb 14, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, ok, you're just pulling my leg with that one, eh?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think so

You don’t seem to understand that everyone you draft or everyone you sign from latin america is an unknown. Known commodities are not going to play in your lower minors. You try and identify guys with the most talent and hopefully they develop into known commodities in a few years. But when every professional baseball player begins their career they are unknowns.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

No

I don’t understand what you are asking.

And when you’ve been asked for clarification, you’ve either said that Mike Bacsik is just a hypothetical, or people are being rude, or otherwise dodged the question.

I’m very confused, in no small part because you seem so reluctant to clarify what your point is.

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 14, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

And what, you're a lawyer?...

Or is that Newberg?

Get the facts straight. I didn’t say Bascik is a hypothetical.

I didn’t call anyone “rude”, that’s your term. I did call G dawg a fucktard, but apologized.

I haven’t dodged anything.

And your continuation of this line of accusation is only to draw me into more opportunities to excite the LSB faithful into further hilarity.

And like bigsteve calls this thread below, it’s an “abortion” that you’re only contributing to.

I thought better of you AJM.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah

It’s just some lame bit. OK cool, we can all move on.

by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, my response exactly.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Bacsik

Maybe it’s bacsik and he wants a job

by Chrom on Feb 14, 2010 11:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Will you answer my question

Do you understand that at one time every player is an unknown?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell fuckin' yes, thought I did that earlier.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I must have missed that

And thats where alot of the confusion lies. Teams have to sign unknowns. Its their job to spot the best ones and then develop them into known commodities.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

thedirkatron helped me out...

but if you want to add to it, what is the fuckin’ fascination with the unknown/prospect player. WTF?

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Whats the fascination?

Cause that unknown may turn into Albert Pujols or Roger Clemens, or Alex Rodriguez. Because at one point those guys were unknowns. And as fans, hardcore ones like most on here are, to follow a guy from rookie league to short season to A ball to AA and then AAA is pretty freaking cool. If all you know or care about is the major league team then you don’t understand. But most on here know and care about more than just the major league team

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by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

thank you, I appreciate it.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

This is hilarity?

Getting 50 responses of people scratching their heads, trying to be nice in regard to nonsensical objections is some kind of a prank or something?

by Brett Perryman on Feb 14, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

He’s trying to see how far he can string it out. We, as always, are doing a great job of feeding it.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

F both of you...

finally bigsteve(just above) and thedirkatron(a while back) bothered to answer my questions. Thanks to them.

Don't ever let your sister move in with you. - thedirkatron

by jackanape on Feb 14, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If only we had listened to the very first reply for this post and heeded its warning:

wow, this post sucks

No need to be rude jack

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Known/unknown

Richard Alvarez wasn’t an unknown to the Rangers scouts when they signed him. We’re just getting acquainted, but the Rangers probably know him pretty well.

by Neftali's arm on Feb 14, 2010 10:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This may not apply, b/c its on topic but:

isnt this part just awesome:

The Venezuela native actually starred in the 2005 Little League World Series in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.

"It was a good experience, and it was beautiful," said Alvarez. "It was the first time I’d ever been to the United States."

Alvarez performed well on the big stage, too.

"Back in those days, I was also a hitter," he explained. "I pitched against Curacao and shut them down. I also hit a grand slam in that game. And I pitched against Japan and hit a two-run home run."

The pitcher Alvarez faced from Curacao?

"The pitcher from Curacao that day just signed with Texas for more than a million dollars," he said. "They signed him as a shortstop. Jurickson Profar."

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Feb 14, 2010 7:08 PM CST reply actions  

When those two

are both in the majors, we need Nike to make a “Destiny” commercial about them.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Feb 14, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially after Profar hits the game winning homerun

and Alvarez pitches a complete game shut out, or am I getting ahead of myself?

by Schultzy on Feb 14, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No silly

it has to be before Curacao and Venezuela face off in the finals of the 2018 WBC after the Rangers won the World Series the year before.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Feb 14, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

And now you know…the rest of the story

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Feb 14, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

RIP Paul Harvey

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Poor Dirk is trying his ass off to be the MVP.

He really wants to look good in front of the 90k in Dallas.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

he has so much to prove.

by octoberty on Feb 14, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not what I'm saying.

It seems to me that he is always trying to make everyone happy. Maybe it’s the European part of him, but he always wants to make his fans happy. He’s really proud and wants Jerry to look good, Cuban to look good, and the Mavs to look good. That’s why he wants to be the MVP out there tonight.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure, he'd like to

But, I don’t see him pushing it or anything

by octoberty on Feb 14, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

His game isn't suited to the MVP

Hes not gonna be a dunker and he won’t get enough jump shots to score enough

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I kinda would like him to try something like Bosh did earlier

with the behind the back pass or something. So everyone just how athletic a 7 footer can be. Toss up an alley-oop to a guard or something.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh

I imagine that would have been there regardless

If he had a sponsor their logo would be everywhere and maybe on the floor but I think Cowboys Stadium would still be there

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by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry has been mentioned a few times in the broadcast of the ASG

And Reggie Miller keeps referring to the jumbotron and “Jerrytron”

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone else enjoy the hell out of Barkley and his one liners last night?

I could have done without his commercials every break, but he was on his game last night. Especially with the Paul Pierce being top 5 Celtic. McHale roll over in his grave? Gold.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

HOLY HIJACKED

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't wait till someone gets on here tomorrow morning and sees a thread about Richard Alvarez with 130+ coments

And then they read this abortion

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think most LSBer's will be surprised.

This isn’t the first time.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 14, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

But theres no Josey in this one

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, that is the surprising part...

…for one who is late to the ‘party’

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 14, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Just did.

I need another Shiner.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Feb 14, 2010 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too

Its like my mom signed up with sbnation and tried to figure out what a prospect was

by nortorious on Feb 15, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

while PMSing

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Feb 15, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Nah

Just the worst thread since the Facebook page one.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Feb 15, 2010 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

She can move her body.

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi

by coolaid on Feb 14, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

So full of goodness

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Feb 14, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

She's actually 5'2".

Know I’m probably alone here, but that ruins it for me.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Feb 14, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Petiteness is wonderful

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Feb 14, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

ah, ty.

Googol tells me she’s the girl who got punched in the face by a dude on television, which I remember seeing shit about.

She looks pretty terrible.

What the hell color is her skin supposed to be?

Humans are not that color.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 15, 2010 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Most of the time

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Feb 15, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Perfect

can she cook?

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Feb 14, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yah, you're alone there.

Petite chicks are to women what Guatamalan snuff films are to the porn industry… They’re the fucking BEST.

But then again tall chicks don’t do it at all for me, so whatever causes your penis to get all filled up with your own blood, I suppose….

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 14, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh
whatever causes your penis to get all filled up with your own blood

Tall chicks.

Ey you might like SBATVC…

http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/streetboners/street-boner-1086/
http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/streetboners/street-boner-1087/

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Feb 14, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Finally, a web site that caters to today's busy pervert.

I want to see hot chicks, but I need snide remarks and jokes or else it’ll just feel hollow, ya know?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Feb 15, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Guatemalan snuff films?

Is that where the good stuff’s coming out of these days? I thought it was still Azerbaijan…

"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Feb 15, 2010 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/2235679100_e550f668c9.jpg

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Feb 15, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

This really makes up for Erykah Badu and OneRepublic.

by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 8:59 PM CST reply actions  

Damn her ass has exploded

It wasn’t always that wide was it?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not complaining.

She looks pretty fucking good and I don’t hate whatever song this is.

by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

She still looks good but daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

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by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

x

This is why I don’t like Alicia Keys. She sings in a bad range for her, I think. She always sounds so flat.

by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...she's always been thick.

She lost some weight during the movie appearance stage, but she was thick before that, too.

Either way, she’s probably my favorite female singer of the past 10 years. Her or Norah…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 14, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

Is there any forum in which ATHF won’t whore itself?

by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

ATHF?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 14, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Just had to google that...

I can honestly say I’d never heard of it before.

Of course, this is the only forum I frequent though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 14, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Confusion.

I meant that ATHF characters pop up in TV commercials and, most disgustingly, on Scott Van Pelt’s ESPN radio show, among others.

by brettgardner on Feb 14, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahh...

thought you were referring to other sites. I don’t watch much TV and when I do I just skip commercials. I like Van Pelt, but can’t tolerate sports radio most of the time. Not surprising I haven’t seen/heard them.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 14, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Smells like troll in here

Shadazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHADAZZ.

by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 14, 2010 9:13 PM CST reply actions  

OT-ASG is setting up for Dirk to be a hero

West down 2 with 12 seconds left. Give it to the hometown guy and let him win it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

ehhh

He got free throws and tied it up. Now the east has the last shot

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 14, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

When you stand out in an NBA ASG

As being a ball hog…that is an accomplishment. Carmelo pulled it off though.

Of course I can’t stand him or any of the Nuggets not named Chauncey or Nene. So I’m a little biased.

by SaltyDawg on Feb 14, 2010 10:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Dwayne Wade as MVP of the Dallas All-Star game.

Been 5 years and we still can’t get a break…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 14, 2010 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

I hate him.

I don’t ever want him or Bryant on the Mavericks. EVER.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Feb 14, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate

that bastard.

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi

by coolaid on Feb 15, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Rewatching the absurdity of the wheelchair

in this video makes me feel better.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Feb 15, 2010 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

DWade

He’s in Satan’ five.

Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.

by shroomer on Feb 15, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wade

And his parents are morons who can’t spell a fucking simple name like Dwayne.

"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Feb 15, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

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