Tuesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 2, 2010 9:20 AM CST
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PrintThe big meeting between the team and Hicks Sports Group lenders takes place today, and Jeff Wilson writes that some lenders are expected to object to the terms of the sale agreement. However, Wilson also notes that Chuck Greenberg won't be at the meeting, which would seem to be an indication that Greenberg doesn't expect there to be any major problems with today's meeting.
Meanwhile, Tom Hicks has been sued by a firm for $6.9 million, supposedly for work done on the real estate adjacent to TBIA.
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The more I think of this
the more I think that Monarch just made a bad investment and are whining. I don’t think they have any power here.
Go Rice Owls!
They do and they dont
This happens all the time in deals secondary market transactions that happen where i work. I mean sometimes deals that only contain 20 pieces so to speak take months. This is way more complex with a lot more moving parts. They are simply making a fuss so they can get more money while another creditor gets less. Basically, they realize there is X amt of money in the pot. They want the most of X and dont give a shit who else it hurts. They are trying to use their high leverage position to scare up some more money and/or other considerations. I guarantee you that internally they have written this debt down well below what they will eventually get for it.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
Exactly
They’ll get their money with interest. If they wanted their money now instead of later, they shouldn’t have bought Hick’s debt.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
Well
If their position is that the assets could be sold for more money, or with more cash being available to the lenders, then they aren’t being unreasonable by objecting.
If you own secured debt, and the underlying asset is being sold for less than market value, and the owner is getting cash and retaining an interest in the asset, and you as a secured creditor aren’t being paid in full, then it isn’t unreasonable to say no, you are going to block the deal.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 2, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Right
I’m sure they bought the debt at a discount, but that doesn’t impact their right to collect everything they are owed, or, if not, foreclose on the collateral.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 2, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Do we know if the debt is secured?
I presume it is but that’s not guaranteed.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Debt
I think the safest assumption in this whole mess is that the debt is secured.
The lenders have other remedies if it isn’t, which are also not good for the club.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 2, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
That would be easy enough for a reporter to figure out
See if there is some blanket security agreement that’s been filed or a mortgage. If it’s secured what is securing it? Also, if some debt is secured and other is not then the secured creditors wouldn’t mind bankruptcy as they would have priority.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Not exactly
If the debt is in default (which has been reportedly the case for months), then the lenders almost certainly have the right to accelerate the debt, and, if not paid in full, foreclose on the collateral.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 2, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
HSG owns the Stars also.
If lenders accept this deal they will still be owed money. Can they not force Hiscks to sell the Stars?
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
It probably depends
On what the collateral securing the debt in default is.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 2, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
If HSG actually defaulted on the debt
then the creditors would have an equity position or at least, they would be one of the first to be paid. Other than that, I cannot see how the creditors would have any say on the disposition of the Rangers. As long as those payments are made, they can only twiddle their thumbs.
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Contractors
Yeah I read about them yesterday on MLB.com. Now the ballpark will have a mechanics lien on it. Great.
Pay your bills, asshole.
by Black Francis on Feb 2, 2010 9:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions
hahaha
“Nassen said the filing of the suit was unrelated to the Jan. 23 announcement of the pending sale of the Rangers by Hicks Sports Group to a group headed by Pittsburgh attorney Chuck Greenberg. "
Bullshit…
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
Actually, a mechanic's lien wouldn't work because it's been > 4 mos. since the services and goods were provided
Plus, a mech. lien isn’t a suit, it’s a simple filing with the county clerk.
This is likely a suit for breach of contract, sworn account, or quantum meruit.
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They could get a quantum mechanics lien
nah I know but I was amused by the thought of something like a major league stadium having a clouded title.
by Black Francis on Feb 2, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
That would be somewhat humorous from a legal standpoint, Greenberg's group having to sue to remove cloud from title before the title company will issue a title policy
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Yeah i was expecting a little more
But i do hope Scooter is doing just what he did last year bc we are going to need the same type of performance from him again this year. If he can continue to develop that change up, I think it could even push him up to the next level!
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
So the DMN chose not
to say anything about Hicks passing out face first in a plate of food at the hotel restaurant in London and instead The Very Blah Sherrington threw him another bouquet of love in his Sunday morning column.
Shocking I tell you, just shocking.
Sir, your scorn is unwarranted.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Why does that matter?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Speaking of the FWST
there is a nice column from Randy Galloway up today talking about the Rangers. Apparently he spoke to somebody connected to the AL (scout, front office type?) that he called a “baseball voice” from outside the division but connected to the league. There are some nice quotes about Millwood, Harden, Vlad and Cobra Lewis.
About Vlad -
""I questioned that move from the start. Vlad was an institution in Anaheim, a good guy who was beloved by everyone with the Angels. Why would they allow him to walk? What [the Angels’] people tell me is there is no way he is healthy.
“This will be fun to watch. If Vlad stays healthy, the Rangers nailed one here. If not, the lineup, of course, is a heck of a lot easier to pitch to, kinda like last year.”
About Cobra Lewis…
“I read somewhere that the Rangers were penciling in Colby Lewis [after two years in Japan] as the No. 3 starter. Don’t know if that’s true or not, but it’s kinda strange.
“In Japan, he threw strikes over there and got people out. But our reports on him when he pitched here [Lewis was a former Rangers’ top prospect] were that he could throw strikes. The problem was that those strikes were hit hard, even when he had command. Then he shied away from the strike zone.
“I respect the Japanese league, but it doesn’t have our kind of hitters. To me, the Rangers have a lot better candidates for the rotation than Lewis, but I don’t know, maybe Japan helped him improve greatly.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I'm just wondering why...
…you are hammering the DMN for not talking about it, but not the FWST.
I suspect a lot of that has to do with the fact that the standards for sourcing among the London tabloids is different than here.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 2, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
And because
if he slammed the FWST he would indirectly be slamming RG which Josey can in no way do…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 2, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I don't care one way or another
about the FWST. Some of their writers are decent but they’ve also employed TR Sullivan and Mike Fischer.
The DMN is the largest newspaper in the number 4 media market in the country.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Were you ever a politician?
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Seriously
you don’t care about the FWST? You quote RG everyday. Are you saying he is just decent?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 2, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I seriously don't care about the FWST.
Per Galloway…I like the balance he provides to the crap we’ve had to read in the DMN (they actually said our scorn for Tom Hicks is unwarranted!!!) over the years and he’s also more connected to Nolan than anybody else.
I don’t pay that much attention to what he writes about other than baseball.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I missed it
did someone at the DMN say our scorn for Hicks was unwarranted?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 2, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
EG
He didn’t say it was completely unwarranted as much as “let’s put down the pitchforks.” BTW, I assumed you didn’t really know.
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I knew
I just like to stir the pot with Josey when he repeats himself 200 times and pretend I didn’t see anything about it
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 2, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
the No. _ media market in the country
has nothing to do with anything
by oc on Feb 2, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Especially considering this is Cowboys country, and the Rangers have been losing for forty years.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 2, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Let the healing begin my friend!
Let the healing begin!! LET IT GO!!
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
I don't know how you got caught up in this Buck...
however I do like the visual of Hicks passing out face first in a plate of food LOL
I did not ask you if you have herpes. I said is that a hairpiece?!?
Do the players go into the interview saying, "Okay Dicky D, you have 6 minutes....GO!"
Each one of these has been painfully short.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 2, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Scott Feldman
Is incredibly boring period.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by LSJ on Feb 2, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Chuck
has more important things to do today than go to that meeting in NY.
You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.
Hellz yeah
He’s gotta be at Sherlock’s tonight for the Newberg Book Release Party.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
And I assume that someone
will broach this topic with him tonight.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
i hope not too much,
sure, I want to know what’s going on, but I don’t want to berate him with drivel about BMFF’s debt problems
by kevinkinsler on Feb 2, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Nope, just walk in
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Hicks' finances & Liverpool
Some very, very interesting comments regarding Hicks’ financial situation today via the minutes of a recent meeting between Liverpool supporters’ union Spirit of Shankly and the club’s managing director, Christian Purslow:
http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/Minutes-from-Christian-Purslow-and-SOS-Meeting.html
I’ll summarize for the non-soccer fans here:
- Hicks (and his partner, George Gillett) currently have £237 million in debt as relates to Liverpool.
- Their main creditor, the Royal Bank of Scotland, has made it clear that there will be no refinancing of any loans until £100 million of the debt has been cleared.
- That £100 million will most likely come in the form of new investors in the club, but apparently Hicks & Gillett have overvalued the purchase price for the team (sound familiar?)
- The pair have invested £130 million of their own money into the club, and have no further money to invest barring new financing. So any future player purchases will have to come from player sales and/or club profits.
- Purslow also stated that “LFC is for sale. It will be sold. The owners have to sell, they are out of money. The bank want it sold, the fans want it sold and people want to buy it.”
No mention of the Rangers’ impending sale, but I have to think the Royal Bank of Scotland breathing down his neck might have given him a little extra incentive to get the deal done with Greenberg & company.
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
OT: How much $$ is Mauer going to get?
While he deserves $20M per year no problem for the next couple, will that salary be worth it when he inevitably is converted to a 1b or DH in a few years?
7/140 seems reasonable
I’d worry about a 10 year deal with a catcher. But Mauer is one of the top few players in the league and vital to that franchise. I can understand the Twins doing that.
Go Rice Owls!
I'd worry about a 10 year deal
for any player, regardless of position. I’d worry about a 7-yr. deal, really, but for a guy like Mauer you bite the bullet and do it.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I agree
The whole 10 years thing may be a bit long. Itll be interesting to see what Joe Mauer’s camp is thinking in terms of years. On one hand they can try to get two big contracts out of him (7 yrs will take him to 33 then maybe another 5-7 yrs as a DH with another large contract).
This is the biggest signing in club history for them. You dont let a guy like Mauer walk. He is the perfect player. He is a local boy, leader, all-around good guy, totally beloved and not to mention one of the best hitters ever from the catcher position already. IMO, he is the only guy going right now that has a chance to even challenge Pujols as the best hitter in the majors. Id love to see him in his hitting prime (i guess 27-30?) not having to catch.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 2, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Ask BA on Beltre and Ogando
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Thanks for that link
BA says that rank “in the middle of the top 30”, which seems to jive with some of the thoughts thrown around by Z, The Newberg, etc. this week.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
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What I was wondering
is if there are other Dominican prospects that were on that list that might be worth signing…
There was a Yankees prospect who wasn't too bad
but I think that the two Rangers were easily the cream of the crop, and from what has been out there the last two days, Beltre and Ogando are the only ones the State Dept. appears to be releasing.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Ok, thanks.
I thought they were releasing all of them and didn’t realize it was just the two.
I tweeted Maury Brown last night
about the reports on the deal being a trainwreck. Brown tweeted back that he spoke to the Greenberg group yesterday and while there is definitely “turbulence” the deal is still expected to go through as expected. I agree with what was written earlier that these lenders are just going to raise a huge stink to try and extract as much money as possible but the deal still should go through.
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
Much ado about nothing
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Good to hear
“Turbulence” is norm in big dealings, especially ones where the debt on the asset is somewhat distressed.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
For anyone interested...Norm is about to discuss the Rangers sale
on the Ticket…
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 2, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions
I'm listening
but I doubt he will say anything we don’t already know.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
< smack > < smack >
Ohhhh, the sincerity, I’m sooooo sincere….
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Thank you, Norm
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
BTW
It wouldn’t be a Norm discussion without him using the phrase, “This is the leavings of a large farm animal” and he used it.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
It's really just comical at this point, isn't it?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Seriously
is Norm ALWAYS eating? It really seems o
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 2, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
He does a two hour show in mid-morning
How is anyone supposed to make it two hours, with only about six 6-8 minute breaks, without eating right in the middle of his show?
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
good point
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
You realize
he is being sarcastic right?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 2, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
good point
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
didnt think so. Carry on…
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 2, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Feb 2, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
You were right...
well…that was useless…
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 2, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
In other words,
read the NBC report and you’ve got the gist of it all.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
that's why I can't listen to Norm...
I was duped by the prospect of getting some inside information and was rewarded with a detailed description of a newspaper report…
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 2, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Being a sports-talk radio host is a cinch. All you need is a morning paper and a make-believe listening audience
by oc on Feb 2, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
and an ego
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
And have the ability to impersonate
popular sports figures in the metroplex.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Love your profile pic!
He really lifted up his skirt and showed his ass that day.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
No kidding...that game was on ESPN Classic recently
…it was just as funny to watch a couple of weeks ago as it was in 2004….
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 2, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Good luck with that....
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"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Exactly, I mean
/Grubes
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Oh god we still have him??
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure if this has been discussed anywhere here, but Joey over at BBTIA has a good article up this morning...
…discussing Beltre and Ogando , where they might rank in our system, and possible 40 man implications…
As far as the renewed 40-man roster crunch is concerned, I’m not entirely convinced that Joaquin Arias and Luis Mendoza are the default candidates for disposal; the former has managed to evade management’s roster-pruning shears for what seems like years now, while the latter persists in teasing us with his nasty low-to-mid-90s sinker and monster grounder-inducing tendencies, and one doesn’t require a terribly vivid imagination to envision one or the other managing to hang around in spite of their respective lack of minor league options.
[Off-the-top-of-the-head roster-trimming alternatives could include the return of Rule 5 draftee Ben Snyder to the Giants, the outrighting of Eric Hurley — who, despite hopeful thoughts to the contrary, probably isn’t a very good bet to meaningfully contribute to the major league product this year — to the minors, or a trade of somebody in the vein of Guillermo Moscoso, Doug Mathis and/or Warner Madrigal for a prospect not requiring 40-man roster placement. Not one of those possibilities would surprise me if it did, in fact, come to fruition.]
Couldn't Hurley be put on the 60 man DL?
If he isn’t ready to go at the beginning of the seaosn, that would clear up a spot.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
If the Rangers don't plan on him being ready before mid-May I think this is what they will do
Although he does earn service time while on the 60 day DL.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think if hes on track to be sent to Frisco or OKC around the 1st of May they won't 60 him
Unless we absolutely need the roster spot. because then in 60 days you have to release someone to make room for Hurley all the while he acrues service time.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I'm getting sick of that pic being used today,
3rd time in 10 days should be enough right?
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I make a motion that the day this sale is complete, there needs to be
a ban on any mention or pictures of Tom Hicks
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 2, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Second
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
One of my best buddies emails me this morning to tell me this
He’s about to leave for work and his phone buzzes. His wife asks if it’s a text from me (assuming I’m texting him about some sort of Rangers or Aggie recruiting news). He tells her no, it’s an email in his work account instead.
She rolls her eyes and says “oh, it’s an e-mail from The Newberg. Wait, did I just call him ‘The Newberg’?”
Two years ago this girl knew no more about the Texas Rangers than that they were a law enforcement agency. And now, she’s calling him “The Newberg.”
Greatness.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Internet greatness http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/11/10/1125340/will-carroll-calls-out-josey-wales
OT - Newbergian Curse
Re: Tonight’s event.
Was first going to go with my pops, but his wife’s dad died, funeral today.
Then was going with my brother, he’s been tossing cookies the last 48 hours.
Then was going with my step-dad but he had to go to the ER at 3 am bc he was bleeding out of his nose.
Whatever me or my family has done to you Newberg, I apologize, let me know how to make it better.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 2, 2010 10:56 AM CST reply actions
Sounds like a sacrifice is in order
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
You supply Tom Hicks...
I’ll supply the alter
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Feb 2, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I am.
Just no one talk to me bc you might be next.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 2, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
You should invite Tom Hicks as your personal guest
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by WestTxAg06 on Feb 2, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
anyone have his email? Maybe if I just email him it'll jinx him somehow.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 2, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
tomhicks@bmffsr.com
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by WestTxAg06 on Feb 2, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i almost sent it until I noticed what you did there.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 2, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I bet it would work anyway
as even the internet knows he is BMFF Sr.
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by Parman on Feb 2, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
sneak preview
Who gives a shit what Josey says.............................
by Lil' Jonny Donuts on Feb 2, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
sounds familiar
got class tonight and a case study due.. was out of the country the last one… every time an event comees up it always seems like it will be a cold day in hell before I can make that particular day
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I didn't want to do a fanpost or fanshot about this, but I would like the LSB to comment on this as I have concerns
The Angels Angels of angleland have 5 picks in the top 39 this year 18th, 29th, 30th, 37th and 39th. I imagine this is one reason money may be a little tight(not that much, but just another straw on their back). Is this a good draft class? If they wind up sucking as bad as I hope, I could see a them selling a piece or two in July for prospects. Should I be worried they might pull a Rangers and flipped the farm from bad to good in one year.
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they had 4 or 5 picks last year as well
we have 4 picks this year between the 1st and Supplemental 1st.
The Angels have a good GM but they aren’t going to trade away their talent, especially since they had 4 or 5 guys they could have traded last year. The Angels are still in it to win the division.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Just curious
What indications have you seen that Reagins is a good GM? I was pondering the question myself the other day.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I thought the Abreu signing
was the move that gave the Angels the AL West last year and getting Kazmir (when he knew was gonna lose Lackey) fairly cheap speaks well of him as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
It's not like he replaced an ace with an ace, though, on Kazmir/Lackey
I don’t think Reagins is a bad GM, but I don’t know that he’s necessarily proven much either. He took over a well-built, well-run organization with a little money to spend and made some solid moves.
Other than that, the jury is still out. It’s hard to get a read on a GM’s true abilities until he has to rebuild/reload or he has to work within the confines of a very limited budget.
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Yeah that is my main point
That was a machine that he took over, and it’s primarily been in cruise control. He will really be able to prove himself over the new few years.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I've never heard anyone about Reagins' drafting ability
They squatted on their supposed “super class” of prospects recently, most of whom flamed out.
Do you have any data either way on Reagins?
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"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
It’s so early to evaluate last year’s crop, when they had a lot of high picks, but they appear to have done fairly well. We’ll know a lot more by this summer. Like everything else, it seems like it’s TBD.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
I agree on the Abreu signing
Might want to hold off on praising the Kazmir deal, though, until we see it play out. Keith Law ranked Sweeney in the 60s in his top 100 and Rodriguez could still be something. For what was primarily a salary dump deal, they may wind up giving up more than they would have liked. Now, if Kazmir comes back and pitches like he did at the very end of the season for them, yeah, he’s probably worth the contract and the prospects.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed that Kazmir needs to play out but I think this was a good move.
This is a tricky time to be the Angels GM because they’re in transition. They just went thru a 6 year period of being very good when they needed to be great to win it all (plus they didn’t take advantage when windows of opportunity were open a little more in 2005, 2006, 2008).
There is still a nice infrastructure in place but they no longer have a line-up with an under 30 Figgins, Vlad in his prime, Tex and Hunter with K-Rod closing the game so I’m not going to be surprised if there is a hangover effect (clouding the franchise for not taking advantage of their greatness) or dip in performance in 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I wouldn't be surprised by that either, and
I wouldn’t necessarily think that it would indicate poor performance by the GM, just like I don’t think that their excellent season this year is much of a positive indicator for him. I guess I just don’t think there’s a whole lot to judge him on yet, and I’m curious to see whether he’s really got the chops.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
I also wonder
if Moreno might start tugging the reins a little harder in regards to spending.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Rumor is, they already have
They’re only down to 112 mil for ’10, but that is with about 16 mil in dead money.
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"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Which would also
give us a better read on just how good the GM is. Their margin for error has been a whole lot higher than a lot of clubs’.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
They have had a steady stream of home grown talent for a long time now
but still go out and sign free agents like Hunter and Abreu. I’d say that’s a well run organization. Yeah there are misses on signings like Matthews, but I’d say that he’s been a pretty good GM.
Stoneman has to get most of the credit.
I dunno bout Reagins yet.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Right
Most of what MikeEl mentioned is Stoneman’s work. Abreu was a nice signing, but you can hardly pin your entire resume on a nice one-year value signing. Folks around here certainly wouldn’t let Daniels do it for Milton Bradley.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
With the 25th ranked farm system?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
It's certainly an opportunity
The way I like to look at it, though, is that the Rangers will have four of the first 49-51 themselves, so it’s not like the Angels are picking up a ton of ground on them.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
I'm more worried about them simply getting better
What I mean is, the Rangers have sucked for years due to poor stewardship. When is it the Angels turn for fucksake? I want them to SUFFER! I’m a big ball of hate for the AA of LA.
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Yeah, I don’t think that time is coming real soon. Best thing to hope for, probably, is mediocrity, a series of teams around 80 wins.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
That would work
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In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
I would prefer this actually.
They spend more money to be average, but don’t quite suck enough to get high draft picks.
I keep expecting them to turn into the Sacramento Kings.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
The Los Angeles Angels
of Sacramento?
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Herschel is still such a bad ass
Wow.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
did he do his first MMA fight yet?
I did not ask you if you have herpes. I said is that a hairpiece?!?
Yeah, he won
It is up on youtube they said. I’m not into MMA, so I haven’t checked.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Yes
he dominated some cream puff from Hungary who looked like he was interested in nothing more than getting paid. The end of the fight was so anti-climatic. Herschel was on top using the ground and pound and the dude just laid there taking it until the ref stopped it. As soon as Herschel got up, the guy jumped to his feet and walked around the ring like it was no big deal.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 2, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
He looks like he could be Greg Oden's grandson.
Guy has aged phenomenally.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
insane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsgbMpD_fw
This isn’t like Muhammad Ali or George Foreman where he’s just using his power. There is no visible fat on his body.
Y'all remember that he didn't lift weights.
I remember an SI story way back in his Cowboy days where he said the only training(weights) he did was doing push-ups and sit-ups. He would do an insane amount each day from morning til night often while watching TV.
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2500 situps and 1500 pushups every day,
365 days a year is his claim. And I ain’t gonna doubt him.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Good, because he might roundhouse kick you Roadhouse-style.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 2, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
I swear that numbers changes
every time I hear it. Regardless he’s in a lot better shape than 98% of this board and he’s 40 someting…
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
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by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
47
Zoom through to the end of this interview done today:
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Good stuff, thanks Rodney
I can’t believe my works firewall let me watch that.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
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by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
YW
Hmm, then maybe you can get the Ticket webcam feed from the SB, here.
:)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
1.4 body fat good GOD
That is crazy.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Damn, I got greedy I suppose
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
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by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Did you see those shoulder and neck Muscles?
dude looks like a monster.
(gotta be juicing)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I used to wait tables at Ruth's Chris around 6-7 years ago
and he actually seemed smaller then
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
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by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
He was sitting down.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I didn't call him a
horse jockey my friend…come on now
Does anyone else envision RW doing the Mashed Potatoes Dance
when we finally win a playoff series?
by lost in space on Feb 2, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
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