Tuesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2010 8:07 AM CST
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PrintJeff Wilson writes that the Rangers are moving forward as if Khalil Greene won't be with the club this year, and are expected to make a decision on whether to void his contract, put him on the restricted list, or do something else this week.
Wilson also reports that Joaquin Arias says his shoulder is back to 100%, which, if true, would greatly enhance his chances of sticking in a utility role.
Evan Grant says that a team with a farm system as strong as the Rangers' should be able to provide an internal candidate for the utility infielder job, and Arias would appear to be the guy.
Richard Durrett's positonal review looks at #2 starter Scott Feldman today.
Elvis Andrus says he's looking forward to working with new hitting coach Clint Hurdle.
Jennifer Floyd Engel writes about Ian Kinsler, who says he's tired of hearing about his potential and says his goal this year is to reach his potential. Both Engel and Ron Washington acknowledge that Kinsler had a good season in 2009, but both think he can be better.
The Houston Chronicle has a story up about the potential AAA affiliate shuffle this offseason, with Round Rock seen as likely to switch to the Rangers, which would likely mean the Astros taking over the Oklahoma franchise.
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@shroomball KDAF-TV 33 video feature on Blake Beavan – pretty interesting watch – http://tinyurl.com/yjesop6
@shroomball Justin Smoak article – local boy does good vibe – http://tinyurl.com/ybu29ez
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Beavan video
This is the best case scenario for his attitude, given where he started. Combine initial cockiness with a healthy respect for the game and you have a good attitude. Now if he can just get that K rate up a bit…
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His K rate has been under 5, right?
Or worse? Where do you guys get the minor league stats, anyways?
Fangraphs.
And it was 3.41 in AA last year.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Fangraphs is awesome for major leaguers
but so far their minor league stats are more limited.
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It's still good for a one-stop snapshot though.
Has all their rates, BABIP, LOB and FIP. I usually go to milb splits if I need to go deeper.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Has milb splits ever been updated?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Oh, thanks
Did not know.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
It should prolly be footnoted that it was only 15 starts
But yeah, that does suck. He is totally overrated.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Developing, learning how to pitch...maybe
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
minor league stats
I use firstinning.com, milb.com, and baseball cube.
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You mean Candice Crawford video?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
+1
I will buy them the day they go on sale, try to get pops to go in for an xtra ticket or 2. I really don’t think they are gonna lose that many folks because the astros are leaving so it could be heckuva net +
by corbsclinton on Feb 23, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Yah, cause that's how minor league systems work, Captain Frosting.
He needs to fall down and then forget to ever get back up.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 8:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I can't be the only one laughing at 'Captain Frosting', am I?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
With a less harsh response, I had the same thought.
I’m not sure how being the best farm system means you have to have a solid MLB shortstop.
Evan Grant says that a team with a farm system as strong as the Rangers’ should be able to provide an internal candidate for the utility infielder job, and Arias would appear to be the guy.
So because we have 6,000,000 fantastic pitchers in our minor league system, we should be able to fill the INF Util role internally?
I read the article as
“Our farm system is awesome, therefore Joaquin Arias must be awesome!”
But yeah, equally dumb either way.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
I intended the article to mean ...
That a club with a fantastic farm system ought to have legit candidates to fill a utility role. Not that Joaquin Arias is awesome, but that he should be capable. Or at least that the Rangers should spend the spring finding out.
If you get the chance
can you get a report (and see for yourself) how his arm compares to the pre-injury tool it was? If it is 100% healthy, is it anywhere near the tool it was then? Some say it was around a 70 arm on the 20-80 scale, what it is now?
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Reports on his arm....
Indicate he’s no longer a 70, which would have been regarded as a “plus-plus” arm, but it’s once again considered average. I’ll have to see that for myself because last spring it certainly appeared he was having trouble making throws. According to Rangers personnel arm strength has returned in a significant way.
Average
would probably mean adequate for a utility SS I presume.
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No way Omar’s arm was above average last year.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Assuming Arias can make the necessary adjustments,
I’d tend agree. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if he snuck out of camp with the spot, but in that case, I’ll be doing regular puja to Dhanvantari on behalf of Andrus…
Well, that's a pretty dumb thing for you to intend to mean.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dirk the Jirk.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
I dont' think it's dumb at all to ...
Think that a guy once regarded as a top prospect in this system, who is still 25 years old and two years out from shoulder surgery should be able to fill the void created when one of the worst offensive players in the NL over the last couple of years wasn’t able to report to camp.
What tells you that this guy can’t be the extra infielder, who, in a perfect world, would end up starting about 30 games over the course of the season.
The reason our farm system is the best in baseball is not because we are stacked at every position
The fact that arias is not mentioned in any top 20 or 30 list (to my knowledge) should be telling of that.
Arias might have recovered from his injury but he’s still not going to develop into the player that people thought he was going to be when he was considered a highly touted prospect. He isn’t suddenly going to develop patience or power. He’s also one of these guys that always ended up on the top prospect lists because he was young for his age and had the tools so we were fine if he put up anemic numbers – which obviously isn’t fine when you are 25 and putting up those numbers in AAA. And to boot, in his limited time last year, his baseball IQ didn’t seem all that high.
Anyway, the greater point is that having the best minor league system does not mean we can fill out utility infielder role internally, just like it doesn’t necessarily (but hopefully it does) mean that we can fill out our catching positions internally. It’s just an easy logical fallacy that most here are going to pick up on.
tall for his height?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
It's Captain Frosting here
Quite frankly I’d prefer Sir Eatzalot, but, hey, whatever floats your boat.
I just don’t quite get the vitriol expressed here over the idea that a deep farm ought to be able to produce a legitimate candidate for one of three least-used players on a team (backup catcher, long reliever, backup middle infielder). Every team has those players in their system, fringy prospects who have a tool or two.
In the case of Arias, if he absolutely, totally fails in the limited role the Rangers would have for him in the first half, there would be plenty of infielders available on waivers, coming off minor league escape clauses, acquirable via trade. We are talking about giving having a backup available for 80-100 games of the season (which might mean playing less than a dozen times if the infielders stay healthy) before making a decision.
Under that scenario, why would you not want Arias over anything that might possibly be realistically available right now.
I just don’t quite get the resistance. Are you telling me you are absolutely, positively sure he won’t give this team what it needs from that spot?
Evan
Sure it was only a couple of games but Arias looked sooooo out of place in those two games in Oakland.
Bad enough that the Ranger FO shipped his butt back to OKC.
Bonus points for Sir Eatzalot!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
better explanation
1) We all hate Arias. Probably because we were told since 2004 that he was going to be amazing and various minor league pundits tried to reinforce this notion even after every terrible season, using phrases like “young for his league,” “tools,” etc. He’s probably not terrible relative to the role he’s supposed to fill but he probably barely deserves to be on a major league roster. And the opinion is partly colored by the gimpy shoulder.
2) UI shouldn’t be that big a role but Vizquel managed to get into 62 games and injuries happen all the time. Not everybody on the roster can be above average and I doubt the random guy off the street could definitely be better but I think most people were intrigued by the possibility of a rejuvenated greene (who you would have thought would at least give plus defense).
3) The main argument is not with the idea that Arias should be the 25th man. The quibble is with the logic of “good farm system means that we should be able to fill the 25th man spot internally.” We have a great farm system but we’re actually sorely lacking at a number of positions. We could have the best farm system in the world and not have one major league caliber infielder at any level. As it stands, we’re not too far from that scenario (especially if that infielder has to be able to play SS).
Evan is right.
It’s a position that really has very little leverage in the scheme of things whether the team is succesful or not. Whether the farm can provide it or we get a min wage 4A guy, it has about the same impact on the team’s ultimate success. If any of the IFs go down for an extended period of time, we will probably rely on a deal more than whoever is ultimately the utility IF.
I doubt the utility IF accounts for even 1 marginal win.
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Also there is no vitriol about this point
Any vitriol you might be feeling is residually left over from your articles about CJ.
Because you're endorsing burning two 25-man roster spots on him..
One for Arias and one for his mustache.
You're confusing
dirkatron’s normal mood with vitriol.
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by t ball on Feb 23, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't defend the vitirol, Evan.
But I do defend the point: a farm system being strong doesn’t mean it has a strong player at every position. It’s just as simple as that. It’s a plain old logical fallacy to say that you can’t be a strong farm system if you don’t have someone who can be at least a replacement-level shortstop, and it’s the same fallacy to say that the Rangers are a good farm system and therefor they have a useful MLB shortstop.
Whether they actually do or do not is irrelevant because it’s the logical leap that’s incorrect. This is entirely separate from whether or not Arias is good enough.
Also, every team does not have those players in their system. They might have players who play shortstop, but not players who won’t hurt them if they play them at shortstop. And right now, we just might be one of those teams.
What does that have to do with your original point...
about how a team having a “fantastic farm system” means they should have a utility infielder ready to go in the upper minors?
I’ll give you a hint: It has nothing to do with that.
Do you really believe your implication above that a team with an elite farm system ought to have legit candidates to fill a utility role?
Cause that’s not what having a highly regarded farm system is about.
Like, at all.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I agree Evan...
While I don’t quite see the correspondence of best farm system being able to provide a utility infielder, I think it’s silly how we think that a 25th man is such a critical, hard to find position. Even the Astros should be able to find a 25th man.
I’d pick German though. When relief at SS is needed, I move Young over and play German at 3B. I could live with that 8 times a season.
by Bats and Balls on Feb 23, 2010 12:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yep
except for the Young to SS part. I just hope Arias comes out better than we all anticipate.
Not far fetched to think that the best system in baseball can find a utility infielder to take the 25th spot on the roster.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
I'm not comfortable...
…with Young at SS, but then again I’m not scared of it. Hell, I don’t think he’s that good if a defender anyway.
But I wouldn’t lose sleep over who our 25th man is…and I sure wouldn’t trade a prospect like MaxRam just to fill that spot. Either German or Arias is capable.
Or hell, let’s just do it with Smoak. Let him be the 25th man and give him time at 3B, 1B, and DH. Davis can do the same.
At some point soon, you’ll have to figure out that situation anyhow.
by Bats and Balls on Feb 23, 2010 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think we really want to see Smoak try and play anything
but 1B and DH.
Doesn’t sound like he is quite athletic enough to play 3B.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Give it a rest
He’s like one of the only Rangers writers that’s actually pretty good generally and he makes it a point to come on here give us access that we wouldn’t ordinarily have.
I don’t like his take on CJ any more than you but it is what it s. You calling him a douchebag and other stupid names isn’t making the situation any better. And you’re making the blog worse
by ab03 on Feb 23, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I say...
let da tron do what he do.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Disagree
Evan should be treated equally poorly as the rest of us.
It will make him feel included.
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- Nolan Ryan
by Flynnyrd on Feb 23, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, you spelled my screename wrong. It's D*i*rkat.... HEY! Oh, I see what you did there.
Now that’s clever fucking personified right there.
Wowzers.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
you called Evan Captain Frosting
I’m not sure you can call anybody unclever. Unless you are willing to concede Sir Eatzalot is at least, if not more, clever.
Hmmm... I thought Captain Frosting was pretty solid. Nothing spectacular, but certainly not agressively unclever or anything.
But keep trying to get back at me for making the board worse by insulting a fellow poster by… er, um… attempting to insult a fellow poster.
It’s a pretty neat trick, imo.
I like it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sir Eatzalot trumps Captain Frosting.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Well, the 40 still trumps that, so I don't know where we go from here.
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by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
They'll come right up to your house if you put out a sign.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree with this...
Captain Frosting is at least original and implies fatness based on a generally regarded fattening food product, whereas Sir Eatzalot is pointing out fatness in the name and has been used before.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
I would think something since the name is Grant it would reflect
something from Ulysses S.
Something along the lines of General Ho Ho.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
And his rival...
Robert E. Lee. (The “E.” stands for “eat.”)
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Edible?
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Enchilada?
Plus one for the accent mark. I’m too lazy to figure out how to do that on my laptop.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I think I liked Captain Frosting better cause in my mind he was wearing a capatain frosting costume and he said his name like captain caveman.
Only instead of using his club to fly around like Captain Caveman, Captain Frosting just used his fingers to eat frosting.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
If Evan had a bad toupee
he could be the Heat Miser.
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This from a big Lemon booster, too...
I don’t see him as a UI now, but I can see it this year.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 23, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
There are some legit candidates for future utility roles
None will be ready this year, however.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Gotta give EG credit for showing in here to
face the music.
Hope he doesn’t shy away from LSB when the buzzards come out and start picking at his work.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
You could learn a few thing from him.
Stop bitching up when someone backs you into a corner, you coward.
Could you define your statement
“Stop bitching up” …with a little more clarity?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
You debate with someone, get destroyed by your adversary's winning argument...
…and stop responding rather than admitting you’re wrong. You’re a coward. Maybe I’ll start referring to you as The Bitch of LSB.
by rclarkjd10 on Feb 23, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see every comment thrown my way
nor do I go down every rabbit hole that’s dug.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
if this is the case....
then there are a lot of other people on here that are cowards as well.
Josey and others have backed a few people on here a time or two into a corner….of course you won’t remember that.
Wash is an idiot!!
Blech @ this
He also could benefit from the team’s focus on situational baseball, which was one of Andrus’ strengths as a rookie.
“I’ve got to keep doing those little things,” said Andrus, again penciled in as the No. 9 hitter. “Our lineup is a little stronger with Vlad [Guerrero] and hopefully Josh [Hamilton] will be healthy. For me it’s going to be do a little of what I did last year, like bunt, hit-and-run and try to get a stolen base. I think that will help this team a lot.”
Hopefully this is just media fluff, because the kid is talking like he thinks he needs to become Juan Pierre at the dish.
Actually I think he and Borbon are working on a plan to both bunt for hits and then proceed to both steal three bases all in the same sequence
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
I do that for fun on MLB the show when I've got a huge lead
Then Rex Hudler chastises me for breaking the unwritten code of not bunting for hits when you’re up 10 runs and occasionally the CPU throws at me the next half inning.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Wait. . .
. . . is Hudler really in that game? Because I’ve been thinking about getting a PS2 just to get this year’s, but if it has Hudler. . .
He's not one of the main commentators, thank god
But he has Jim Knox-like bits that are extremely annoying and get prompted at extremely annoying times.
For example he’ll sometimes look at your pitcher’s pitch count and ride you for throwing too many strikes.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Can someone invent a baseball video game in which Jim Knox is somehow involved?
That needs to happen.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
That would be the greatest things since Ranch Dressing....
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 24, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Any thoughts on how you'd implement it?
Would he just make strange and uncomfortable observations as part of the play-by-play, or would we go to Jim Knox?
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
You'd have to play all your critical plate appearances in split-screen with Knoxie
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
That'd be perfect...
It’s a 3-2 ballgame. You have the tieing man on first and second with your #4 guy up. The count is 2-2 with two outs in the bottom of the 9th…
“And now here’s Jim Knox with Martha Reynolds, an 87 year old fan who hasn’t missed a game in 22 years. Knoxie…”
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
What's wrong with what he said?
Andrus is not Hamilton. Those are indeed the types of things he should be good at, and they will help the team.
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I've just always thought that bunting and hit-and-runs where terribly overrated parts of speedy guys's games
What I’d like to see both Elvis and Borbon work on is avoiding outs and getting on base a much as possible this year so they can in turn burn up the basepaths that much more.
My fantasy is having them someday walk enough to steal a collective 100 bases while hitting 1-2. Probably never gonna happen, but hey. Dude can dream, can’t he?
by JimBonnick84 on Feb 23, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
Well, of course I want him to draw walks, too
but he’s never going to be among the league leaders in that category. Last year as a 20-yr. old rookie, he was just shy of league average in BB rate, so I think he’ll walk enough. And adding the threat of speed with bunt and infield hits and stolen bases just makes him better.
Andrus is a better defender and walks more than Pierre ever did, and don’t forget that even Pierre (just a 5.9% career BB rate) was still a pretty valuable player in some years. I see little chance that Andrus becomes “only” a Pierre.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
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bunts vs sacrifices
Many SABR or baseball analyst types often shout how terrible it is to bunt, but what they mean is that its fairly useless to sacrifice bunt. particularly early in games where one run isn’t as valuable as the out, or in games where you are ahead late in the game. You simply don’t want to take the bat out of a guys hands unles he hits like a pitcher.
But, bunting for a hit is as valuable as a walk, and even more valuable as it can advance runners at times. The key is to do it early in the season and get teams remembering you did, then the infielders start to play in to cover the bunt, then rip the ball past them. However you do it, whether by walking, bunting, getting hit with a pitch, getting on base is huge….
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Anyone catch
JFE’s potshot at the message boards? I think she’s got her little feelings hurt after the last week or so…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:15 AM CST reply actions
JFE
From the article:
""In ‘08, I could probably count on both hands how many at-bats I gave away whether by brain [freeze] or whatever. And last year, I can’t even tell you. Thirty? Forty? More?" Kinsler said. “Maybe, there are a couple of at-bats where I am not focused.”
A rare, honest answer from an athlete, and he’ll probably be ripped by message-board types."
I don’t think Ian wll be ripped over that- it’s pretty much what we were all saying about him last year. If he was getting ripped, it was because he seemed to be the only person who didn’t recognize the problem.
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Agreed
that’s what I thought was weird. The message boards were ripping him because he didn’t seem to think he needed to change anything. Admitting he gave at bats away is a big step for Kinsler and one that could benefit him if he is willing to finally change some things.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
You're thinking about LSB message board types.
She’s prolly talking about DMN message board types.
Or maybe she’s talking about us.
Who cares?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
I don't really
I just enjoy the fact that new media has threatened old media to the point where established journalists feel the need to mention them at least once a week or so.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
I think one thing that the internet has pointed out
is how few actually good writers there were in the old media. I know for most sports the columnists at the traditional papers are fairly useless, and only the beat writers bring much of anything to the table.
If JFE, Blackistone, etc. were to retire tomorrow, who would really care?
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Or JJT, or that fat ugly creep who just came back to DFW?
Nope, because I never read a word they type.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
There are plenty more names,
but I don’t know them all, because I’ve more or less stopped reading sports columnists. I found it to be a tremendous waste of time, given the number of people writing on the net who only seem to write when they actually have something to say, rather than being forced to fill column inches with drivel to earn a paycheck.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
That's the same mentality dumbass
rednecks took when the Beatles came out in the 60’s.
“I don’t ever listen to it but I know I don’t like it. C’mon baby sis, let’s go fuck!”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
So, you are comparing the words
of most sports columnists to the Beatles.
Another salient JW post.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Feb 23, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Time
to give your sister the high hard one, Cahill.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
So
Not only are you infatuated with Hank’s nuts and shitting your bed but you also have a thing for your sister.
Don't have a sister.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think you should be the one talking about selective hearing
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
by WyoRanger on Feb 23, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
not exactly
he said he, “stopped reading sports columnists,” which implies that at one point he did read them. The redneck sister fuckers never started listening to the Beatles in the first place
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
Yep,
if Kinsler uses a better approach, he goes from a better than average 2B to an elite player in the league. This team really could use both Josh and Ian being elite players.
I think most of the “message boards” will applaud Ian’s statement.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
JFE
can’t even insult well…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Per the FWST article
They held him out yesterday waiting on the team doctor to arrive and look at the MRI. He said it feels much better and he doesn’t have any pain.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
I just googled Sidney Ponson to see if he actually has a job right now
And according to google’s description of his wikipedia entry (which I imagine is cached):
Sidney Ponson – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sir Sidney dumbledick Ponson (born November 2, 1976 in Noord, Aruba) is a competitive eater who is currently a free agent. Ponson stands at 6’1" tall and …
Unfortunately, if you click on the page it is no longer in the actual article…
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
Gotta hit the "cached" link man!
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:O0HxEmC940IJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Ponson+sidney+ponson&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
pretty funny..
Sir Sidney dumbledick Ponson (born November 2, 1976 in Noord, Aruba) is a competitive eater who is currently a free agent. Ponson stands at 6’1" tall and weighs 260 pounds. He eats and throws right-handed. He is such a fatass that when he played for the yankees they needed to find a new taylor to get enough stripes for his 5xl jersey. When he made his Major League debut for the Orioles in 1998, he became the third player from Aruba to play in the major leagues.he is the first player in baseball to have anal sex on the pitchers mound on national tv. He also has a fastball that tops out at 55 mph After the 2003 season, he was decorated with a Order of Orange-Nassau, in the grade Knight, along with fellow baseball hall of famers Eugene Kingsale and Calvin Maduro.1 He was picked up by the Orioles as an bus boy in 1993.
by cmkelly29 on Feb 23, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
That's so awesome
I have a feeling someone connected with LSB was responsible for that edit.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Where you around for the great Dale Scott wiki-edit-gate back in 2008?
Oh, the memories.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
This is beautiful
Almost poetic
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Taylor is the name of the Yankees' tailor
that’s all he meant.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
I missed the anal sex on the mound thing
maybe they’ll play it again on the MLB Network… instead of Nolan’s 7th no hitter.
Sid Pontoon what a fat stupid box of shit.
"I think that Rangers is good team."-DemianBlue
by Pocket Ninja on Feb 23, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Do you really want to see it?
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 23, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
What?
It would be like watching National Geographic…..
Fuck no I wouldn’t want to see that!
"I think that Rangers is good team."-DemianBlue
by Pocket Ninja on Feb 23, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Arias
I’m not a big Andrus fan, but looking at the remaining FA’s, there aren’t many other options. Felipe Lopez is the most attractive, but the Rangers seem to have little interest in him for whatever reason. The only other options that can play SS are guys like Chris Gomez. As much as most on here dislike him, there really might not be another option out there right now…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:22 AM CST reply actions
yep
he’s as good as we’ll get. luckily it shouldn’t matter that much.
by nathanbaum09 on Feb 23, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
Not a big Andrus fan?
you mean not a big Arias fan?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 23, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Of course
thank you for that. Andrus is probably my favorite Ranger. Arias is not high on the list at all.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Really? I like Arias better.
Have you ever stood next to him?
You look so much more handsome that usual.
It’s the best.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
That is true
If I was going out for a night on the town, I might use Arias like a good looking girl uses fat chicks. You can’t help but draw attention to yourself when the other person is that ugly.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
it's cool ASL ..
because you know who Arias goes to parties with? He goes with that pitcher with the scabs all over his face, same principle.
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
Gotta do
what you gotta do. You don’t have to be the fastest person in your group, just faster than the slowest one…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
wow.... brace yourself for some Dirk-a-tronal hate.....
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
Meh.
I’m always down for a good hatin’, but an uninspired, boring ass burn like that doesn’t get my rage boner full of even a little bit of my human blood.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Considered, but how do I get it in there?
I could do the old urethra pour… but that’s seldom worked for me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
LOLuis.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Yay
@aandro Good news on Derek Holland. Only a mild sprain. Resuming baseball activities
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
HOORAY BEER!!!
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
Good, now just make sure he and Brandon McCarthy don't share water bottles again
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by LSJ on Feb 23, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yippee.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
I was kind of hoping they would install an artificial knee.
So then he would come back as part cyborg and ELIMINATE ALL ENEMIES.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Its destiny, now I must post my fanshot'd mini-comic
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the preceding post was a great success.
by DShep on Feb 23, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Outstanding!
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
I'm making that Greene
in honor of Khalil
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
If there is actually a cyborg on the Rangers roster, Holland has to be one of the more likely candidates, right?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Durrett talks to O'Day:
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Is anyone here a doctor... Can this cause injuries?
A: My mom is allergic to them. I would ask anyway. Brandon McCarthy is allergic to dogs and he has two of them in his house.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
That must be some Dynamite P
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
O'DAY, O'DAY-O'DAY-O'DAYYY... O'DAYYY... O'DAYYY
"I think that Rangers is good team."-DemianBlue
by Pocket Ninja on Feb 23, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I can't see this at work
But if it is what I think it is, I was at the game.
Awesome scene, so much fun…
There must be...
more of this chant this year. Must. Be.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Man...
…we had Cheerios for breakfast. The bird would try to eat my Cheerios and I was a fat, little kid and I wanted my Cheerios, so I pushed him away. He would sit on my shoulder and bite my ear and harrass me. I had to clean his cage every two weeks. Birds make a lot of noise.
This sounds like a Brian Fellow’s skit.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
OT. The Rockies signed Nick Bierbrodt
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Mmmm...beer brats...
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Sshh...I'm still drinking coffee
That would totally clash…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Haven't we been saying that Arias' shoulder is healthy again
for 2 or 3 years now? I’ll believe it when I see it.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Good morning LSB.
I woke up before 8 just so I wouldn’t miss my window in the BoaB league. Felix Hernandez is mine!
YEAH!
You need T-shirts.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Uh, oh...an over/under sighting and
it’s not pretty if you’re a fan of the Texas Rangers.
They have the Texas Rangers at 79-83 and last in the AL West. Ouch.
LAAA 89-79
Seattle 83-79
Oakland 82-80
http://www.eog.com/news/full-article.aspx?id=47898
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The number seems a little low to me
but wasn’t PECOTA’s (or CHONES or the guy from the Yankee weblog) first number at 77 or somesuch?
Over/Unders aren’t gospel but they’re a pretty good indication of how others see you.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
They're exactly that.
And my time on the internet has shown me the Rangers are annually an underrated team by a shocking number of people. Even when they’re bad people expect them to be drastically worse than they are. It’s a little weird.
Of course, some guy the other day on another message board was talking about how there’s always a bunch of hype by fans and media for the Rangers and they always disappoint. No one (especially the Rangers fans) knew what he was talking about.
I don't remember the exact numbers
but I know in 2005-2006 they had the Rangers in the 80-81 win range and I want to say they had them at 76 wins (their actual pythag win total) in 2008.
I think they had last year’s total at 74 but the Rangers blew everybody out of the water last year with their pitching and the left side of the infield played much better than anybody could anticipate.
The over/unders aren’t gospel but it’s also not information that should be dismissed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Admittedly, I'm as bad as Norm when it comes to gambling...
…but that seems like easy money.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Vegas's initial line was low last year
Additionally, they have money lines mixed in there in varying amounts which kinda distorts things – i.e. can’t even tell if the over/unders added up equal the correct total number of wins by all teams.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I don't think they're worried about all the numbers matching
up like a regular season does.
They’re worried about attracting equal numbers of bets to be placed over and under the assigned total.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Sorta and sorta not
Vegas is looking to make money but they aren’t going to move lines solely to try and keep it in the middle of the money. If a load of casual gambling money is coming in on one side they aren’t going to move the line to account for that. They’re just going with the belief that they’re right and everyone’s wrong.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
To follow that up
It’s quite possible that historically most of the bets involving the Rangers are on the under which lowers it.
Just geographically more trips are made to Vegas by Californians than Texans. Wouldn’t suprise me if those Californians have been betting the under on the Rangers for years. I’ve been to Vegas many times, always wear a Rangers cap and have never seen anyone else wearing one.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Over & Under baseball bets
don’t get the same action as football games but the people who make the lines can’t half-ass these numbers or they’ll get killed by the Smart Money (these are people who look to exploit the lines and bet for a living) that comes in.
That 79 number on the Rangers was researched thoroughly before being submitted and is nothing to dismiss.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
philkid3
checked in with 76 wins last year, I do believe.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I believe that's correct.
I think I went as high as 78 a few times in the off-season, but it was pretty much around 76-78. I thought the ceiling was higher than the floor was low (though I didn’t think it was necessarily as high as it was).
Which is probably still a good view for this year
a ceiling higher than the floor. I think the floor for this team is about 78 wins, but the ceiling might be 93-95.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Ceiling higher than the floor
ugh, you know what I mean. If the peak of the probability curve is in the mid-80s, the tail of the curve is longer on the ceiling end than the floor…
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Yup.
Though I’m not sure they can get to 94 wins on true talent level, meaning progression of players development to increased talent levels. I’m not sure they can add more than 5-6 ways that way, so you’re still looking at needing some good old fashioned luck.
Not that it’s a huge issue, generally teams that have good records also had at least some lucky with them.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Let's look at this barely scientifically.
Attempting to look at everything going right, but also within reason.
So we had 85 second order wins last year. We’ll assume we have even luck next year but a similar schedule for this, so we’ll call this an 85 win team.
Now let’s look at players who will be 27 or younger this year. Elvis Andrus had a 3.0 WAR. Murphy is in that group, but I’m not going to give him large progression. Borbon put up a 0.7 in 46 games, that’s 2.3 in 150 games. For all his turmoil, Salty managed to be .5 in 84, which is, at least, solidly above replacement. Throw in Tea for the rest and you’ve got about .8/150 from our catchers. Davis played 33 more games but went from a 1.2 WAR to -0.6; that would be .5/150 if you average the two years out. Feliz was 1.1 in 31 IP; if you give him about 1/3 of a season as a reliever, 1/3 stretching in the minors and 1/3 starting, I don’t think 85 MLB IP is unreasonable, and that would have been 3 WAR last year. Holland was worth 1.1 WAR in 138 IP; 170 is probably achievable and that’s 1.4. Hunter was 1.8 over 112, and 170 MLB innings for him would be 2.7.
Now, these guys are all young players who can get better. If any one of them have their rates repeat and tack on an extra half a win (just enough to make them clearly but not hugely better) to their value, no one can be surprised. If ALL of them do, you should be surprised, but it’s in the realm of possibilities. That’s about 9.5 wins of progression just from the young’ns. And while all of them progressing like that is a great coincidence, that’s modest progression for each individually. 9.5 on top of an 85 win team.
Bullpen, for this practice, stays the same. And save for two players I want to look at, we’ll say everyone over 27 stays the same. If Michael Young was an average fielder all last season, which it looked like he might be capable of after the second half, he’s better than 4.5. For this, we’ll say he’s learned to be an average third baseman and reproduces the offense, making him also about half a win better than last year. If Josh Hamilton reproduced his 2008 total of PA in ‘09, at the same rate, he’d’ve been a 3.4 WAR player. The midway between his two seasons is about 3.8, so a half win of improvement is realistic (perhaps even too conservative) for him from ‘09, as well. That’s got us up to 10.5.
Then a couple pitching changes. Rich Harden has topped 140 IP two strait years now. That’s Vicente Padilla plus about half of Matt Harrison’s time in the rotation. Replace those two with Harden’s ‘08 and you’ve got 3 wins of improvement. Taking the midpoint between ‘08 and ’09 for Harden is still a win of improvement. Then you’ve got Colby Lewis. If CHONE is right about him, you’ve got a win of improvement over Millwood in ’08.
So that’s 9.5 from young players progressing by just a bit, that’s another 1 win from Hamilton being healthy and Young improving his defense, and anywhere from another 1-4 possible from Lewis and Harden replacing Millwood, Padilla and some Harrison.
On top of an 85 win team (again, everything not addressed avoids regression for this), you’ve got 96-97 or even close to 100 looking possible just by looking at things that are realistic.
It’s not completely scientific and it’s also not likely, but it’s not simple day dreaming or gut guessing. It’s looking at what happened last year and trying to assess what players are capable of to judge the ceiling (as in the best this teams’ true talent is). So I’ll agree with t ball and say our ceiling is higher than our floor is low, and that ceiling might well be in the high 90s.
Sure, I’m going to pick probably about 85-87 wins, right there with projections and what we did last year, but I think it’s entirely possible — even without flukishness — to take on 10-15 more wins than ’09.
And, at the very least, this gives you a fairly palatable way to have some real enthusiasm for possibilities.
That's what she said.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 23, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
My prediction wasn't gut either.
I did something similar to what you did, but I started from scratch instead of last year’s roster. I think that’s a better model to follow. Do what you did, but start from the replacement level team and then go from there.
My main disagreements with you would be Young repeating last year, Borbon being more than 2 WAR in his first full year, and the idea that Feliz can accumulate WAR/IP at a similar rate whether he’s relieving or startin (mainly because he already has the tools to be an excellent reliever, but may not have the tools to be an excellent starter yet).
I’ve been toying with the idea of doing a daily series of fanposts as we get closer to the regular season. It would involve taking the results from either LSB’s or an average of other’s projections for the team and creating an expected wins from that. Then it would involve identifying 10-15 potential things (1 per day) that could realistically happen this year that would result in an addition of 1 WAR to the team. Every day, we could vote on the likelihood of each event happening, then at the end, come up with what we think the odds of the Rangers reaching 95, 92, 90 (etc) wins are.
What do you think?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
You don't think Young can repeat last year?
Or you don’t think he will? If it’s the latter, we’re not in disagreement.
Same for Borbon. Those disagreements are, what, about 3-4 wins? That’s still pretty close to t ball’s opinion of the ceiling. That’s the absolute best realistically possible, not where expectations should be.
That seems cool, though.
I'm hoping last year
wasn’t a case of us pissing away one of those few years we had the pitching to make a run at post-season.
It seems like such a strange coincidence (I’m not a big fan of coincidence) that not only did our pitching give up a huge number like 227 fewer runs but at the same time we scored 120 fewer runs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Maddux and Elvis might really be that importnant.
I’m counting on it.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
I'm not too worried about the pitching.
It really wasn’t that much better in 2009 than it was in ‘08. The xFIP was only like .3 lower, and the rotations tRA was about the same. The bullpen was quite a bit better, but, overall, the difference in run prevention wasn’t that much on the arms.
It was frustrating to finally have a good team at preventing runs and have the offense sputter by our standards, though. And I do worry about fielding regression.
philkid3
That’s bullshit. Their walks total was down significantly from 2008.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
When they issue fewer walks
that means they’re getting ahead in the counts which makes the batters more defensive and easier to get out.
When you work quickly, your defense plays better.
When your starter goes deeper into a game, it saves a lot of wear n tear on the bully and they become more effective as a result.
Tiny E helped no doubt but I also believe they cleaned up a lot of their other defensive problems (gave up 65 fewer unearned runs) but their pitching was much better in 2009 than 2008.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
It's certainly part of the puzzle, no one is denying that.
Kinsler’s improvement helped as much (if not even slightly more) than Andrus taking over for Young at SS. The team BaBIP was lower, fewer DL days (the Rangers were one of the most injured teams in 2008).
As for starters going deeper into games, the rotation pitched 5.86 innings per game in 2009, vs. 5.37 in 2008. I chalk about two thirds of that up to the improved defense, and the other 1/3 to pitcher performance, including fewer walks, based on that FIP/ERA improvement I listed below. The rotation benefited greatly from fewer innings where they had to get 4 outs because of the defense.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Anecdotal evidence at best.
Its still quite possible to have a good defense behind a staff which walks batters. this isn’t little league and the fielders don’t start picking flowers just because the ball isn’t going into the outfield.
As far as the starter going longer into games, fewer walks may correlate with fewer pitches per inning, but its not a direct correlation. getting ahead of batters doesn’t help if the opponent is torching the first pitch because he knows its going to be in the strike zone.
Also, anecdotally, pitchers are more apt to throw more strikes if they have confidence that the fielders are going to field the balls that are hit into play. And the more outs made (whether by strikeout or in the field, the more innings the pitcher can pitch.
FIP (which stands for fielding independent pitching) tries to separated that portion of the defense belongs to the pitcher from that portion that belongs to the fielders.
If you have two teams with the same FIP, and one has a vastly better defense, the team with the better defense will LOOK like they have better pitchers, but they don’t. They will look like their pitchers prevent runs better, prevent hits better, and pitch longer into games. All this is because when a ball is hit up the middle, its more likely to be turned into an out by Elvis Andrus than by Michael Young. That hit taken away means one extra out, which in addition to reducing the runs allowed and hits allowed, increases the pitcher innings pitched total by 0.333 .
When you measure defense by looking at unearned runs, you are vastly understating it. “Errors” are mostly scorers decisions and luck. If Elvis gets to a ball with a dive and throws it 10 feet up the line where it bounces off the padding in front of the camera well, and Salty, hustling down the line, fields it cleanly holding the runner at first, there is no error on the play. If the ball misses the padding and goes into the camera well, its an extra base and an error. If its only 5 feet up the line and Davis stretches out and makes a brilliant catch (keeping his foot on the bag) its an out. (But if Hank Blalock is playing first, he’s waving it right by.) So, same ball, same efforts, and three outcomes: 1) error, 2) hit, 3) out. And the pitcher controls this? of course not. once the ball leaves his hand he can do nothing about it. But more importantly, once the hitter swings and makes contact, (as long as the ball doesn’t leave the park) the pitcher has already lost to one degree… He’s supposed to miss bats.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
"Errors are mostly scoring decisions
and luck."
Bullshit. Once in a while you’ll have a scoring call that could go either way but the vast majority of time, the scorers get it right.
I understand that more range means more chances but teams that lead the league in errors not only don’t make it to post-season but they rarely finish above .500.
It’s not a coincidence. Errors do matter.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
x
The concept of an error, engrained as it is in the sport, involves three mistakes. The first is trying to take the concept of "per opportunity" success, which works for batters and works for pitchers, and applying it to fielders. It doesn’t work—in fact, it doesn’t work in any sport. Defensive players, in all sports, are not presented with "opportunities"; defensive players have to make their own plays. It’s a flawed premise. The other two mistakes are:
1) That the concept of an error is too general. It puts together events which are essentially unalike. All singles take a batter out of the batter’s box, and move him to first base. All doubles put the batter on second base. All walks are fundamentally alike, and all strikeouts. Different things may happen after the play and different things may happen during the play, but there are common elements in them all that make for easy definition.
Errors, on the other hand, have all kinds of different outcomes. Some simply extend an at bat, allowing it to reach some other conclusion. Some put the batter on first base; some on second base. Some advance a runner who is already on base, from first to second or from second to third or from third to home or from first to home; we’re all over the map here.
An error can be a wild throw or a dropped pop up. Falling down can be an error, or kicking the ball while trying to pick it up. The category is so general that it fails to describe the event. 2) That it involves an unnecessary value judgment on the part of the scorer.
That’s Bill James, Bitch.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Feb 23, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Feisty Rodney makes me smile
and Drunken Rodney in the GDT elicits convulsive laughter.
So the fact that teams which lead the league in errors rarely finish above .500 is one big coincidence?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Rodney might have been
hitting the tequila, therefore, he’s drunk AND feisty. Regardless, that cat cracks me up.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
So Bill James is wrong???
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Bill James isn't always right.
He projected a boffo 2009 for Chris Davis.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 24, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
So what you're saying
is that you know better than Bill James because the projection system with his name liked Chris Davis last season?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
No he didn't.
He put his name on a projection system to projected a boffo 2009 for Chris Davis.
Also: not the same situation.
Ok, how about
Teams which lead the league in pitchers used rarely finish above .500
Teams which lead the league in Caught stealing (on offense) rarely finish above .500
Teams which lead the league in home runs allowed rarely finish above .500
Teams that hail from Texas rarely finish above .500
(see, I can do it too…..)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
FIP
improved about 0.40 from 2008 to 2009, but the ERA improved a full run. Pitching was slightly better, with fewer walks being notable; defense, luck, and health were significantly better.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
To me, it was collective improvement
and not just one thing that made them so much better.
Because of that, I’m more optimistic they can do it again. The only thing that bothers me is why the Ranger offense fell off like it did at the same time.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Because
Hamilton sucked, Davis Sucked, the Catchers sucked,
more systematically:
C) .769 → .665
1B) .774 → .684
2B) .835 → .802
3B) .809 → .869
SS) .746 → .701
LF) .724 → .806
CF) .832 → .771
RF) .954 → .803
DH) .915 → .802
P) .646 → .048
PH) .680 → .342
you can break that down as you wish…..
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
good to see you finally learned this
after going through the college bowl season talking about college football lines as if they were an indication of what the results of the games were going to be.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
who cares.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Over/Under
Is a number completely designed to make money. While it shouldn’t be completely ignored, it isn’t a number that has been 100% researched or anything.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
So you think
the number was just half-assed and not researched whatsoever?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Lets be clear.
The Vegas lines are not what they think the Rangers will do, but what they think other people think the Rangers will do.
Their goal is to pick a point at which the winners offset the losers to the tune of maximum profit.
While these lines can provide insight, it’s more toward the general thought processes of gamblers and their opinions on the teams than actual expected outcomes.
There is more money from people who have perceptions formed by writers such as JJT, Galloway, and MSNBC and their own historical knowledge, than money from people betting based on Fangraphs, BTB, or Baseball Prospectus.
Vegas’ profits don’t come from being right about the sports themselves, but from being right about people’s perspectives surrounding the sport. If there are hundreds of thousands of dollars going to the OVER on the Rangers, and they find some strong research that supports this — you can bet your ass that they’re going to move their over-under up, cause that means that they’ve misplayed the market’s perception of the team.
There’s a fine line between playing the actual odds and playing people’s perception of the odds My suspicion is that Vegas has an “actual” over-under expectation and a “gambling” over-under amount. If the bets come in differently from their expected in the direction of their actual, they shift the over-under, if the bets come in differently but in opposition to their actual over-under, then they would remain steady and expect bigger profits.
I'm not a gambler
Their goal is to pick a point at which the winners offset the losers to the tune of maximum profit.
Can you explain how if Vegas correctly sets a line and the number of winners and losers offset, then how do they make any profits?
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Vigorish, juice, 10% on your losses
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
If Vegas takes
ten $ 100 bets on over 79 wins and ten $ 100 bets on under 79 wins, they will take in $ 1100 from those bettors that lose and pay out $1000 to those bettors that win.
That’s why it’s so important to set a number where they will get equal number of bets on both sides of the number.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm still confused
I’m missing something here…
Are you assuming they are placing $100 bets? If the bettor wins, they get $200?
twenty $100 bets = $2,000
ten winning bets = $2,000
Is there a 10% gambling fee?
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
10% juice on your losses
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
When you want to win $100
you have to bet $ 110 to do so.
Does that clear it up?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yes - vigor is normally 10%
When you place a bet you give the house $110. If you win they give you $210 back (your $110 plus another $100). If you lose you lose the $110 you gave them.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Typically
you bet 11 to win 10. So, you hand the cashier 11 bucks, and if you win they give you your original 11 back plus an additional 10.
So, if there are 10 winners and 10 losers, they take in 220 and pay out 210.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Thanks for clearing that up
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
I'm not a gambler either but here's an example:
Lets pick three sets of O/Us:
1. 73-89
2. 81-81
3. 89-73
Vegas’ math guys think that the Rangers win 85 and lose 77.
In case 1, you get 30 guys that bet the over and 10 guys that bet the under, at equivalent values — your research suggests that those 30 guys are likely right based on other additional information, so you’re poised to lose money.
In case 2, you get 19 guys that bet the over and 21 that bet the under. You now have a pretty even split, and you expect to profit slightly because you expect them to be over.
In case 3, you get 30 guys that bet the under and 10 that bet the over. You have information that suggests the under is right, so now you’re expecting to lose again.
Their goal is to increment ever so slightly to get as many losers and as few winners as possible. If I were Vegas makers and I expected the 85 wins, I’d probably pick the over/under at 82-83. You’d get the “winners” from the statistically oriented folks, but the rest would be people expecting the Rangers to do poorly, creating a split of like 25 losers to 15 winners, thus maximizing your profits.
One more gambling question
If Vegas sets the over/under at 85 wins, and they win exactly 85, does Vegas get to keep all the money?
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
aka, a push
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
That's why you often see .5 points or games
Eliminates pushes.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
How does
not 100% researched, turn into no research whatsoever? I was trying to ignore you today, but your idiotic statements make it impossible.
I won’t go into a lot of detail, Trickman below did a fantastic job of that. My point is Vegas is simply looking to make money. They throw a number out there that they think will entice people to gamble. They then slide the number based on bets. If you were trying to make a working season-long prediction without being able to move the number, you would pay more attention to certain elements other then, what do the masses think…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
And if Vegas puts out
a number that nots very well researched they will get killed, dumbass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I won't respond
until you can prove where I said not researched at all or not very well researched. Until then, I will continue to ignore you today.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
This is what you said...
“it isn’t a number that has been 100% researched or anything.”
Dumbass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
So that is your proof
I said not 100%, which could mean 99%, it could mean 75%, but you use it to prove that I said not researched at all and you call me a dumbass. You really do need a new bit. Please add something to the conversation about the great game, or move along.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Tip your cap
get out of the batter’s box and go sit your ass on the pine.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Okay Josey
(patting you on the head and faking a smile)
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yet you're the one that says
Vegas doesn’t research their line 100% to cushion the blow when they put the over / under at 79 wins.
So was it 84% research? Was it 67%? Was it only 42%?
Dumbest thing you’ve ever said in here and that’s saying a lot.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I already patted you on the head
what else do you want little guy?
Vegas doesn’t do a 100% full on research of every stat available to select a win number. They focus more on betting tendencies. Why can everyone else grasp that, and you still can’t?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Remember this...
I won’t respond until you can prove where I said not researched at all or not very well researched. Until then, I will continue to ignore you today.
You need to do it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 23, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sorry
I wasn’t disciplined enough. I’m done…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
There are good at bats
and bad at bats.
Look at it this way, somewhere, some place Mario Mendoza is laughing his ass off at you and pointing fingers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
He'd still pinch hit for you.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
they will only get killed if the research you were referring to
was on how to get bettors on both sides of the line.
Performance of the actual team doesn’t matter.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
I was
my point was Vegas doesn’t research a team the same way a so called expert researches a team. They research betting tendencies etc.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
You're still in the batter's box
although you were made to look like a faggot with a flyswatter.
Get to dugout…NOW!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
faggot with a flyswatter
That’s good. Minus points for originality since that was how you were referred to in Little League…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
last year, I bet the over on the Mavs (48.5, if I remember correctly)
this was coming off of 8 straight seasons of 50+ wins. I don’t think Vegas thought Dallas was going to be below the 50 win mark, but there was a LOT of consensus early on last year that the Mavs were old and crappy and about to fall apart. I think they just moved the number down because they thought too many people would go “under” and there would be a chance that Vegas would get killed – too risky.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
If Bodog opens with that number,
I’m betting the ranch on the over.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
When we were in college
plotting all our bets before calling the book we’d channel “Hill Street Blues” and always tell each other “Hey, be careful out there!”
I’m curious to see what Bodog throws out there as well but be careful because those people know what the hell they’re doing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
They surely do.
I doubt they’ll open that low, wish I could bet on that.
I prefer forming a ‘rotation’, and betting on individual games. Pedro practically paid for college, even risking lines b/w 2.40-3.40.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
I could have seen a number of 84.5 on Texas
as being a little more realistic but I’d expect Bodog to be right around 81.
Wish I could look at old over/unders to see how often Vegas swings and misses big on a team two years in a row.
Baseball is so volatile and full of the unknown that missing one year is understandable but missing twice shouldn’t happen very often.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I'd bet(no pun intended)
they miss more often on the low side(original line). Enticing fans to play their teams, and then balancing out with the wise guys.
Baseball parlays is my favorite way to play. Take 2 underdogs w/ decent starting pitching, maybe a home team that lost the first 2 games of the series, and then wrap it with a powerhouse i.e. CC going for the Yanks.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
how much per seat per game?
if you don’t mind my asking
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
BTW,
BA’s top 100 is up
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
If we had an actual good farm system (you know, one replete with utility infielders at the upper levels) maybe we'd've gotten a guy or two on the list... :(:(:(
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
No shit.
You didn’t like the comment, we get it. Get past it.
by FuturePants on Feb 23, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Or how about I'll hate my hate however I feel it and for as long as I feel it?
Do I have your permission to do that?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
There is another side?
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Feb 23, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, I'm taken aback at people are showing such surprise at me being a hate-y faced jerk full of boiling rage and hate.
I thought I’d kinda made that my thing.
I’ve thought Evan was a (INSULT SELF-EDITED OUT CAUSE IT WAS TOO MEAN EVEN FOR ME) for a while now, and I’ve been grade-A hater for pretty much ever, so me being all hateful towards Evan and calling him a (SAME BASIC INSULT) would seem par for the course.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
I've always felt that, under that fearsome facade, you were a bunny rabbit.
Granted, a bunny rabbit with nasty, big, pointy teeth.
But still.
You should give that glorious red hair of yours some frosted tips, that would add to your fury.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Considering only the hairs on my chin are red, that'd look... weird.
Not that having puke blond hair, a brown/black beard and a red-tinted chin goatee thing doesn’t already look weird, though.
Maybe I’ll try it.
Where does one go to get one’s tips frosted?
Do they do that at Superclips?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I normally just go to your mom's house
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Feb 23, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL, now that's a quality burn.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, true!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
LOL
Seriously, though, dirk- I see I’m not the only one with the hair one color/facial hair another problem.
I think you have me beat with the two-toned facial hair, however.
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
x
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
LOL, no way that's real.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
x
Watch this…it explains it.
Genius idea by these 2.
I hate them for it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Denton Community Theatre is a nominee for them to make a commercial about, vote for them.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
DCT
“Joining the gay men of Denton and surrounding communities in ruining the Arts for over forty years.”
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
There are gay people in theatre?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Pompadour would go great with your mustache.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
I find this hard to believe also.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet Mary, that's some funny stuff.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
"your hairdo's only limited by your imagination,
and how far along we are in the semester." seriously, i nearly pissed my pants laughing
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
Oh nonono. The best part...
“I won’t mess up. And even if I do…it’s only two dollars.”
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
You know what I want to see?
Our pitchers field a ball, and throw it to first base without a problem. That happened way too often last season.
I have a new money-making idea for the spring, because I'm poor.
Buying premium game tickets and reselling them on StubHub. Got 4 Opening Day tickets this morning.
Oh, hi guys. I’m still here.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
Hi.
I once made money to go to a Cowboys game. I bought two tickets on Ebay just after the game sold out. Then I sold the ticket I wasn’t using for almost 40 dollars more than I bought the two tickets together for.
It wasn’t my plan at all. I was astounded it worked.
Is that illegal, btw?
Shouldn't be.
Ticket venues do it all the time.
I’m also tempted to check out the NYY and BOS sites for on-sale dates, but I’m not sure I could bring myself to pay for those tickets up front. I’d feel dirty.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
I love rock and roll
put another dime in the jukebox baby!!!
Does that make it better?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
The conversation was good (I love speculation on whether last year's Ranger team really had good pitching)
until some dumbass insinuated that Vegas put out a line that wasn’t 100% researched and then wouldn’t STFU.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Feb 23, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Great point
even though my Vegas comment was a good hour and a half before you guys started talking about the pitching, Are you really this stupid or do you just pretend on the internet?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
By the way
rhetorical question, please don’t respond. We know the answer.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Tweeeeeeeeet.
Offsides, ASL. 5 yards.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Well done
cover up your idiotic statement with a poor attempt at Ticket humor…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Why do you want to know his Age, Sex, and Location?
Sicko.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 23, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
OT: this just in, Rick Flair beat up by wife....
http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2010/02/22/ric-flair-gets-beat-up-by-wife/
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Good, glad he didn't slap her around.
I always loved the Nature Boy and his theatrics….
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
A couple
of those knife edged chops to the chest would have stopped her cold…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Did anyone else
ever try the figure four at home on a friend? I damn near broke my best friend’s leg trying to get him to submit…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
I've done them all...
Figure-four, Sharpshooter.. you name it. Trampoline wrestling in the late 90’s.
When I was in 8th grade athletics, wrestling moves in the weight room before the coaches got there was the hot thing to do
They were generally tried on the idiot kid that was universally disliked and always picked fights with everyone.
But one morning the coaches walked in as another guy had said idiot kid in the Chris Jericho Lion Tamer and he was screaming in agony.
The coaches weren’t pleased.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
The Jericho - Dean Malenko feuds were awesome.
by LiamP on Feb 23, 2010 2:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bringing back old time memories...
I had long forgotten the name Dean Malenko.
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
The true "Great Malenko"
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
In related news Undertaker is a badass
Pyrotechnics malfunction during his entrance engulfing him in flames and he goes on to wrestle his match like nothing happened.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Shit...
he just ran out of it and took off his trench-coat and shook it off.
That’s crazy.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
gritty.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
That is a shit ton of pyrotechnics
EOM
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Trampoline wrestling
no bigger time waste in the summer than that. Also, trampoline basketball was big
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Trampoline Pool Basketball.
Dig it.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like he should've done a better job of woo'ing her.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Captain Frosting, Captain Frosting, Captain Frosting!!!
Better?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
No, I thought you were being serious.
I was trying to kid around.
Don’t know how that wasn’t obvious.
Unless of course now you’re kidding, in which case fuck me I’m confused as ass shit right now.
Do we hate each otheror not?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Basically...
You took me to task above for being unclever, citing the earlier instance of me calling “Captain Frosting”.
Then down here you grudgingly admit you found this comment by me to be kind of clever, prashing it in such a way that I assumed to be a callback to our above exchange.
I attempted to reference that with a callback of my own, but I guess it wasn’t that clear and since your hate was up you assumed it was hate and hated back.
Or at least that’s how I saw it.
You know what I should’ve done? I should’ve added one of those damn little winky faces so it would’ve been more clear. I even thought about adding one at the time, but I hate that god damn little stupid winky faces so much. If only I didn’t hate so much.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
We could solve this
by both of you saying 3 things you like about the other person… :)
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
8>)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Huh?
Man, I’m confused.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, not really.
I don’t mind a good hate, as long as a) the fact that we’re in a hate is clear and b) the person I’m hating with can actually bring something better than useless fuckshit like “Oh, yah, well you’re ugly!” and “No, get it, I replaced a letter in your name and now the first part of it spells Dork, ha ha ha, ho ho ho, hee hee hee!”
I wasn’t clear whether or not we were in a hate was what I was saying. I wouldn’t mind hating with you if that’s what the situation dicates. You’ve always seemed to be a pretty good hater, imo. Very hateful indeed.
If there was a Lonestarball Player Hater’s Ball, you’d definitely be invited.
I’d win, of course, and on the way the way up to the podium to accept my most hatefullest hater award I’d hatefully smack you on the back of your head real hard with the back of my right hand (it’s more hateful than the left, imo), but then while I was giving my speech you and I’d lock eyes for a brief moment and I’d give you the slightest of nods, letting you know that I hate everything about you… but god damn it do I respect the way you hate.
So basically what I’m saying is that at the LSB Player Hater’s Ball after party I’d have sex with one of your close female relatives or maybe your dad.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
You can do better than this.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 24, 2010 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Wash says Burbon will Face Lefties:
According to TR
http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/02/borbon_to_face_lefthanders.html
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Give him a couple months and if hes struggling against them then look into Chavez or Gentry or Boggs as a platoon partner
He doesn’t need to be that great against them to still be a weapon.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
an improving walk rate will have a lot to do with it
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Gentry doesn't have the extreme splits Borbon does
And Chavez is a veteran
It wouldn’t be as much to increase offense as it would be to keep a young guy from destroying confidence in himself.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
We've been over this.
Just because Chavez is just as bad against righties as he is against lefties doesn’t mean he’s a good option against lefties.
If Borbon can’t hit lefties, the first option (based on the way the roster is currently constructed) should be moving Andrus to leadoff against lefties.
No. . .
But Chavez’s career .301 wOBA against lefties is a hell of a lot better than Borbon’s .112 last year. I’d like to give him the option to either prove he can or learn how to hit lefties, but just because Chavez is just as bad against lefties as he is against righties doesn’t mean Borbon is a better option against lefties.
Small sample size, btw, for both of these guys. Of course.
Fun Fact
Using Minor League Splits to neutralize for luck and park, Borbon actually beats Gentry in AAA OPS against lefties by 4 points.
Good times.
Where you get that?
I was just looking around for this…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Without the luck modifier, Borbon loses by 39.
And both have BABIPs in AAA right in line with their careers, so the luck thing here probably is more misleading than helpful.
Yhanks
I’ve kinda stayed away from them b/c they never updated…guess they did.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
bah..
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
(makes dismissive yhanking motion)
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I understand that
But if we have to run a guy out there who is bad against lefties I would rather it be the veteran who I don’t care about his long term psyche. Borbons still young. If hes not able to hit LHP it may get in his head and result in the rest of his game going downhill. With Chavez…he is what he is.
If we take Borbon out of the lineup against LHP then yeah move Elvis to leadoff against them.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He may also not be as good at hititng lefties as Chavez, anyway.
That’s always a possibility.
So, um, Boggs should be 100%. That would be nice. Just in case.
Yeah Boggs would be the ideal choice of course
Which I think I included his name originally
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
You did.
I was just inserting myself to make the case that it’s entirely possible that out of the four, Borbon might just end up being the worst against lefties, even if the others are also bad.
What if Borbon bunted a shitload against lefties? Like to try to get on?
If he does it too often they’ll just play for the bunt, so he’d have to swing often enough to keep them honest. But honest question, would that be a somewhat viable strategy? What kind of success rate would he need for this to improve his number line against lefties?
Borbon’s bunt hit percentage last year was only 29.4. Ichiro’s was over 60 percent the last two years. Ichiro is god of bunts obviously, but is this something we can expect Borbon to improve upon, or is he what he is?
Am I just high?
Shadazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHADAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 23, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
bunting vs lefties
He would have to drag bunt since lefties generally fall off to the 3rd base side of the mound.
If he could get really good at that then yes that would be a valuable weapon. It could possibly make LHP alter their delivery somewhat so they don’t fall off as much which could cause loss of command.
Or it could cause defenses to play him differently opening up more holes for him to hit into which could lead to better numbers.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
OT: A's Roster
I’m looking at one of their guys in the Ball on a Budget league and I just realized how many players are near league minimum on that roster. It’s incredible. Just a huge wave of 450 K salaries.
Jes...likely to continue with hitters this year.
And then there’s Ben Sheets…aka future trade bait.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Rays, Marlins after Blalock...
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Rays-and-Marlins-after-Blalock?urn=mlb,221516
As bad as he sucked towards the end, this still makes me sad.
Poor saps
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 23, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, they put the Psych guy's head on Batlack's body
WTF?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Love "The Gut"
Not a huge fan of the Ambulance
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Really? I loved the ambulance.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 23, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
This is an Epic Beard Man reference everyone....it's actually referring to the cat he whipped.
Nicely done hiafex.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 24, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
very nice Gossamer!
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
what is that behind Feliz? a car?
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
oh ok gotcha...kinda hard to see it...
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
OT: This is AMAZING!
This woman calls in to a tech support show for help. See, she hasn’t been able to get on to the internet for three years because the linksys in her neighborhood has disappeared.
Incredible.
Wow...
what a moron. Even after he explained it to her she didn’t get it.
She was going to keep using her neighbors WiFi because “they need to bring that price down”?
I wish he would’ve let her talk more because I’m sure she would have provided many more great comments.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I wonder about the part where she mentions the price.
Either:
A) She is aware of being able to buy her own internet (which her staff sent to her on friday, she got it today) access. In which case, what does she think that’s for? People whose neighborhood doesn’t provide a “linksys?”
B) She doesn’t really know how much internet costs, she just assumes it’s wildly expensive.
She may think her apt. offers the free internet with a linksys.
Although listening to her, I doubt it.
This is something my mother would do. Love her to death, but God she’s cheapt.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
three weeks.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Awesome...
I bet this happens to a LOT of people.
I live in a rather large apartment community, and the number of unsecure networks that show up for me is huge. I have my own network, but I probably wouldn’t need one if it really came down to it.
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