Josh Howard with a torn ACL
He's done for the year, and probably 2010-11, as well.
almost 2 years ago
Adam J. Morris
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yikes!
He’s a FA after the season, so this was poor timing…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Jeez.
Career over. And before anyone says why?
a-He’s made his coin,
b-this is his excuse to burn mad bowls 24/7,
c-He will never rehab this injury.
A+B=C
Damn shame.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 12:47 PM CST reply actions
If I had millions and a bum acl...
(and no wife + child).. I’d burn mad bowls. I’d invite you over too. We could smoke bowls and watch Yooooooooooo Gabba Gabbaaaaaaaa.
I bet it'd make more sense in that condition.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Just about everything makes more sense in that condition.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
agreed
always seems like crackpot theories make perfect sense then
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
If A ever happens, I assure you B will be rapidly approaching in the rear view...
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Feb 23, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
If A happened, I'd be slamming horse between my toes.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Donny and Mark look absolutely clairvoyant at this point
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
kudos.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Even more sad...
I am a Mavs fan and it was my first thought. Maybe b/c I just watched an M. Night Shamaylan movie the other night.
The Happening?
That chick is a clone of Katy Perry and weirdly hot in the same way.
"…although it does kinda show how little faith they have in Cruz, whether that be the org as a whole or just our beloved, bespectacled, kool-lovin’ skipper."
by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2010 5:48 PM EST
Katy Perry
Not particularly a fan of her music, but yeah, she’s way hot. I love chicks with black hair and pale blue eyes.
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Yep
Pale, darkhaired, busty women with blue eyes do it for me.
Katy Perry is gorgeous.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Katy Perry...
is the Alpha-Melanie Brodeur.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 23, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
I love her as well.....
just something about her….
by death of the cool on Feb 23, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
I was too busy noticing the shittiness of that movie to ogle any hotts
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Feb 23, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
I get the Perry thing, but Deschanel
is delightfully odd and I quite like her voice, particularly singing in Elf.
I agree on Deschanel
It helps that I love that song as well.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I am a Mavs fan
But somehow I still read that to be “Josh Hamilton” b/c this is a Rangers site
Man that made me shudder
by thedudeabides on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Well played!
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
Well
I really don’t think the trade had all that much to do with Josh Howard’s health this season, to be honest. That was maybe 10%.
by brettgardner on Feb 23, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
certainly there were other factors leading up to the trade
but a really good trade for the Mavericks just got to looking even better.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I guess.
But I don’t see how you could really make the argument, since it seems you’re assuming he would have torn his ACL with the Mavs.
by brettgardner on Feb 23, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
And
the way he tore it, being run into by an opposing player on the Bulls, makes it even less likely that the injury would have definitely occurred if he stayed…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Guys, jeez
this isn’t LOST. I’m not talking about changing the future. Just saying i’m glad it happened on someone else’s watch
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
x
agreed that worked out well (the trade)
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Should have held onto him and gone for the championship
instead of making the trade and settling for the 2nd round.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
WTF?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
x
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 23, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, yes
Because that was my point — that keeping him meant we’d be going for a championship.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
What was your point?
I must have missed it.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 23, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
WOOOOOOSH!
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 23, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
You used the word "their" both correctly and incorrectly in the same sentence.
I’m impressed.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 23, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I believe the point was that it doesn't prove anything about the greatness of Donnie or Mark
because it doesn’t make the Mavs title contenders, only second rounders. As such, the trade is pretty meh.
I don't understand this logic
what if Kobe’s injury is more severe than we thought? There are hundreds of what ifs out there. I don’t buy the whole does it make us equal to the Lakers bit. Their job is to make the Mavs the best team possible. It’s not like we gave up a ton to get those 3 guys. They traded a guy who was done here for 2 better players. If you lose in the 2nd round, that doesn’t mean the trade wasn’t the right thing to do.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
agreed......
This trade sets up 2 things:
- It should gain them a top 3 seed in the West at the least. This sets up a 2nd round re-match with the nuggets…and they matchup better with the Nuggets now than before that trade.
- It sets the Mavs up to make a splash in FA next year by trading Damp. The deal gives us our replacement at center in Haywood (and a much better one at that)…The Mavs can dangle a Damp, Beabois, 1st round pick deal to someone that is about to lose a free agent (Joe Johnson)….and not worry about the huge hole left at center.
by death of the cool on Feb 23, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
They can't deal a 1st rounder
They don’t have their 2010 first rounder, and can’t give up their 2011 first rounder because of the Ted Stepien rule.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yes they can.
Once the draft is over they can deal their 2011 and 2013 picks in a deal if they want.
The Ted Stepian rule applies to future first round picks.
by jthig32 on Feb 23, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You are very bitter about my rare forays into Mavs talk
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Lol
I was going to come in here and make a comment about how this must really suck for you because Cuban looks even better with that trade, but everyone else is ganging up on ya.
Hindsight is awesome when it’s as positive as this. No way Donnie and Cuban could have thought this would happen, but it makes for a nice bow on top of this trade present.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I'm very bitter about anyone being wrong about anything
and thinking they are right. I think I’ve established that.
But in general, I get pretty upset when people trash my team and I don’t agree with the complaints – hence my being bitter about your forays in the Cowboys talk about T.O., Jerry, Wade
You must be bitter a whole lot
Life is filled with people who are wrong about something and think they are right.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 23, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Longhornitis
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Feb 23, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
YES, YES! He said it! He said it!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Feb 25, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
I giggled.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Adam is right about Jerry
I can’t remember what he said about TO and Wade though.
by LoneStarBallUser on Feb 23, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
He thought TO was a cancer and not good for the team
(which I think is the most defensible position he had)
And he thought the hiring of Wade Phillips was more about Jerry having control of the team than trying to pick the best coach that would allow the Cowboys to win.
How can you say that opinion is baseless? (the Jerry/Wade one)
It’s fair to disagree based on Wade’s coordinator prowess I suppose, but Jerry has hardly tried to hide the fact that not having full control of personnel makes him miserable, and that stance greatly limits the caliber of personnel and head coaching execs he can hire.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2010 1:59 AM CST up reply actions
I think the main reason he picked wade phillips is because wade phillips was the best coaching candidate out there
i think wade not craving power is ancillary, just like i think Jerry wanting power is ancillary to wanting to win.
And the line about full control – he’s the GM. If you’re insinuation is that Jerry won’t hire any coach who wants to be GM, then you’re right. But if you’re insinuation is that this greatly limits the field of coaches, you’re wrong. I’d go on to say that the better coaches out there actually don’t have that much control over personnel.
Well
The fact that he’s the g.m. is the biggest problem, really.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 24, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Wade Phillips was the best coaching candidate out there
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
So it doesn't matter what username you use
you’re still a smarmy prick (who’s also wrong).
by ab03 on Feb 24, 2010 8:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like he nailed it
on all 3 counts.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Is Wes Cox happy about that?
I mean, Mavs Moneyball has like, 15 active members?
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
How does this put him out next season too?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Because it takes more than 6 months to recover...
…from an ACL surgery. I s’pose he could get back by mid-season, but even that isn’t guaranteed.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, thanks
Not that familiar with NBA injury recovery.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
That's not just NBA
but an ACL tear for an NBA guy is really bad since that is the ligament that stabilizes the knee during jumping etc. When I tore mine in H.S., doctor told me football and baseball were fine, but basketball probably needed to go. Danny Manning tore both ACL’s multiple times.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 23, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
ACL are basketball's equivalent of shoulders for pitchers.
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
Like Ryin A said above
He’ll smoke mad bowls, get lazy, and not rehab because his pockets full yo.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
It's crazy, man...
you can’t control what the knee do
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
But you can control what you do while on them.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 23, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
I really feel sorry for people on here
that don’t listen to the Ticket. They miss so many masterful bon mots such as this.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
on the subject of injuries holland's knee
MRI exam on Holland’s knee shows mild sprain
Best part:
He can do more than sit on a table in the trainer’s room and do crossword puzzles."
Good news, and some ammo for Huggy Bear in there:
Rotoworld’s Fantasy Baseball Draft Guide projects him to post a 4.21 ERA as a sophomore.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Holland
Ron Shandler’s Baseball Forecaster has Holland with an ERA around 4.50. He also noted that Holland’s expected ERA last year should have been in the high 4’s, based on his peripherals, so the skills were there, even if the overall results weren’t.
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
And I agree with that
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Thank the FSM.
I wasn’t terribly worried, since most people seemed optimistic about it. But man, my heart did skip for a minute.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Yeah, me too
big relief
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
yep
for a second a felt a gut punch coming, then came to my senses.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 23, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
me too
and I seriously felt my heart stop beating for a few seconds.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
The Wiz
I guess it doesn’t really mess with their long term plans but that team is having some luck.
some of the commentors over on Bullets Forever
are talking about “Well, at least we can have a look at this James Singleton guy…”
That’s a tough year when you’re reduced to that.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
They really are hard on luck.
Injuries and player stupididy have killed what was an extremely talented roster from top to bottom
link?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 23, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Ack.
I read that as “Josh Hamilton with a torn ACL”. That sucked.
Anyway, bummer for Howard.
Not mediocre. Right about average
How much
do you want to bet he comes back at 400 lbs. He could barely keep his weight below that playing baseball 8 months out of the year.
Ephesians 1:3-10
Apparently pot smokers gain 250 pounds if they hurt tear their ACL?
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 23, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I think he doesn't see that...
Josh Howard != Josh Hamilton
Oh sweet Jesus. I also looked up Howards Wiki page and came across this gem he said.
In order to get into Wake Forest, Howard needed an SAT score of at least 950. Howard did not get a 950, saying his score was “somewhere in the 500s”.
This quote was in the Dallas Observer.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Probably was on probation his first semester.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Feb 23, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
He went to a community college his frosh year.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I think he thinks it says Ryan Howard
Ryan Howard is alot closer to 400 than Josh Hamilton
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Good point. That is much more likely.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Christ
I’m betting there are a lot of us here- myself included- who scored well over 500 on each section of the SAT’s.
It’s amazing how stupid you can be and get into a good school just because you’re a talented athlete. I have a lot of respect for places like Stanford that actually expect their jocks to have a brain along with the ability to throw or hit a ball.
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Exactly.
When I read that, I was like, whoa. C’mon man. I think you get 450 points just for filling out your name and info correctly. I think you could put down all C’s on the paper and score higher than a “500 something”.
I’m hoping he said that in jest. If not, by 680 in reading is looking real good.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Uh-huh.
I don’t want to sound like a jackass, but a 1000 on the SAT (the old SAT, before the scoring changed) seems relatively pedestrian.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Pretty sure..
…you get 400 just for filling out your name.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 23, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
400 is if you get every question wrong (or 5 questions wrong without getting any right)
I think 450 is a blank answer section.
At least, that’s what it was when I was taking the test.
So is this what Josh meant....
When he said he was going to stick it to the Mavs?
by LoneStarBallUser on Feb 23, 2010 5:45 PM CST reply actions
He already did that when he was here.
Got his money and dicked’em.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Does anyone know why Greenberg is only contributing $3M to the deal for the Rangers?
I’m new to the site, but I’ve noticed that Hicks sucks and so on because the Rangers payroll is only $60M or so. But we’re expecting that to be greatly increased by a new ownership group led by a guy who only has $3 million invested?
just what in the heck makes you think he only has $3 million invested?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Does this word on the street
happen to be from TexasDawg?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I've only seen that the sale was for around $525 million
and that Greenberg and Nolan are the leading partners, along with a cadre of minority investors.
From the Fort Worth Star Telegram:
Pittsburgh sports attorney Chuck Greenberg leads the investment group — Rangers Baseball Express — seeking to buy the club; team president Nolan Ryan will be a minority owner when the sale is finalized.
Do you have any linkage for this $3million number?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
In this thread
AJM thinks Chuck and Nolan each own 5%. Not sure where he got that info.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
So they both put in ~ 15 million
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
that would make more sense
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Greenberg and Ryan are the leading face men
A couple guys (one or both live in Ft Worth) are the main money investors.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I don't know how much Ryan or Greenberg have in the company, but here the other two main investors
Beyond Greenberg and Ryan, Who Put The Most Into the Deal?Co-lead investments in Rangers Baseball Express will be made by Ray Davis of Dallas and the family of Bob and Janice Simpson of Ft. Worth. Ray Davis and Bob Simpson will serve as Co-Chairmen of the Board of Rangers Baseball Express.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Muchas Gracias!
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
x
In summary, Simpson is a multi-million dollar energy mogul who sold his company to Exxon.
Davis is number 367 of Forbes 400 richest Americans and is worth right at 1 billion dollars. Also in gas and energy.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
So that is Bob Simpson, Chair (or former chair) of XTO?
Bigtime Baylor donor, by the way. Meaning that Baylor donors have a stake in both Houston and Texas.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 24, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
yah same guy
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 24, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
No. I don't think it's been publicly disclosed.
But the number is $3M.
Obviously Simpson is the money guy here. But it’s odd that he wouldn’t take the lead on the group. Doesn’t seem to suggest major payroll increases are coming. And that’s understandable, as the Rangers’ break-even in recent years has been around $60M.
Found the 5% reference
Ryan, who will hold up to five percent of the club once he is fully vested, said he does not see making any changes on the baseball operations department when – and if – his investment group is officially approved
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/nolan-ryan-acknowledges-major-league-bas.html
Here’s the quote about Ryan having the same amount as Greenberg:
Ryan said he has a minor stake in the club and put in the same amount of money as Chuck Greenberg. “We felt like we’d take the same position,” Ryan said. “Everybody needs some equity in there. With Chuck’s background and mine, I think the investors have developed a comfort level that their interests will be well represented.”
I really doubt he only invested $3M because that would mean the sales price of the team was $60M ($60M X 5% = $3M). Considering the sales price is north of $500M, his contribution is probably more around $25M ($500M X 5% = $25M)
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 25, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure how Grant got to that 5% number...
He doesn’t explain and the “once fully vested caveat” is interesting.
As of right now though, Greenberg is only putting in $3M.
Oh, and be careful with what you take for certain fact from Nolan Ryan. He has a lot of reason to lie about the Purke ordeal, given that he is the one that really drove the Rangers towards that kooky family.
Ok so who are you?
Why should I believe what you are saying over what has been reported in press?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 25, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
Why are we taking some genero-guy seriously?
by brettgardner on Feb 25, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Rangers100.
Who are you?
You don’t have to believe me. But try being a little more critical with your reading of press reports.
I like Evan Grant. I’ve only spoken with him briefly on a few occasions over the years in the clubhouse after a couple road games and in Port Charlotte/Surprise, but my impression from those brief interactions is that he’s a good guy and professional about his job. Plus he has a somewhat cynical and dry wit which I like. I love that DMN has brought him back.
I’m sure he would be the first tell you that his wording or fact-checking of every single thing he puts in a blog entry isn’t perfect. And that’s no knock on him. That’s life and inevitable in journalism, especially in the age of blogging.
Has he seen the specific details of the Greenberg/Ryan offer? (If so, why hasn’t he published the specific ownership breakdown? Why do you think Greenberg himself hasn’t disclosed this?) Or did he just take Ryan’s word for it on the “5%” claim? Was that 5% of the total value or just owners’ equity invested? And what’s this “once fully vested” stuff?
I think Grant would tell you he just took Ryan’s comment at face value. It was a blog entry after all, and hey, he’s Nolan Ryan.
Sure thing, bud.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 25, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Since you have access to the clubhouse and what not
Why don’t you just ask Nolan/Greenberg yourself?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 25, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Ask them about what?
I already know the answers (generally speaking) to those questions. The point of them was to show you how there is a lot of room between what you concluded from Grant’s brief blog entry and the fact that Greenberg is only contributing $3M to the deal.
If you have a serious rebuttal to those points, feel free to give it. Otherwise, I’ll take your lack of one as a tacit admission of not having considered some things here.
I don't understand this at all.....
and it can’t be true.
Why would the MLB owners approve an ownership group that may be that weak?
by death of the cool on Feb 23, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt its only 3 million
But Greenberg isn’t a huge money man. Hes the face of the ownership group. Hes the one who did all the leg work and got all these investors together and there will be a board of directors but Greenberg is the day to day man. At least thats how ive understood this group to be put together
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I'd argue that Nolan is the face of this ownership group
but your point is well-taken.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
It had me thinking about a threesome fantasy I once had.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
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The Mavericks are expected to offer Zydrunas Ilgauskas their bi-annual exception once he is bought out and clears waivers, but the “overwhelming expectation” is that he’ll return to Cleveland.
Never happen
Read this.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
In other news
Caron Butler has had a “reaction to medicine” and is not going to play tonight.
Awesome.
I care so much less about this game now but
hopefully we will see more of Roddy B.
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