Saturday afternoon Rangers trivia
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2010 1:39 PM CST
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PrintSlow day, not much to talk about, so I decided to throw a particularly difficult trivia question out there...
Since the Senators moved to Texas and became the Rangers, there have been three rounds of expansion in MLB, with each round adding two teams.
As a result, there have been three expansion drafts -- one in 1976, one in 1992, and one in 1997.
The Rangers lost a total of 9 players in the expansion draft -- 5 in 1976, 2 in 1992, and 2 in 1997.
Name those 9 players.
As always, no Googling, no Wikipediaing, no Baseball Referencing...just brain power.
Answers later tonight
UPDATE -- ANSWERS:
1976 draft -- Jim Clancy, Doug Ault, Steve Hargan, Jeff Byrd, Steve Barr
1992 draft -- Kevin Reimer, Scott Chiamparino
1997 draft -- Edwin Diaz, Hanley Frias
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Off top of head...
I believe they lost Kevin Reimer in 92. Monty Fariss was one of the 98 losses. And I think they lost Jim Clancy in 76 to Toronto.
"Most of Jesus’s parables were economic parables, and they were free-market parables." -- Andrew Schlafly
no way Fariss was a 98 loss
maybe a 92 loss
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'92
We definitely lost Reimer in ‘92, but I don’t remember who the other one was.
by Brandon Wilson on Feb 6, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
I had the year wrong, but Fariss does show up as a ‘92 loss, contra AJM’s update.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/FLA/1993-transactions.shtml?redir
"Most of Jesus’s parables were economic parables, and they were free-market parables." -- Andrew Schlafly
no idea,
but I was looking up the draft rules on wikipedia, if there was an expansion draft this year, the Rangers would lose three good players. You can only protect 15 players in the first round (although some recent draft picks and signees are automatically protected). There would be some tough decisions to make.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 6, 2010 2:24 PM CST reply actions
Are the only players vulnerable to be taken on the 40 man or 25 man or any player?
If it was the 25 man roster, Feliz, Holland, CJ, Hunter, Elvis, and Borbon, welcome to OKC for a game.
Arias, German, Mendoza, Madrigal, Gentry, and Boggs, welcome to the bigs.
Somehow I doubt this is how it works considering teams could just do this.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
1997 Major League Baseball expansion draft
* For the first round, 15 players from the rosters of their entire organization—both their 40-man roster, plus all minor league affiliates.
* Each team could add three more players to its protected list after each round.
* In addition to the above, players chosen in the 1996 and 1997 amateur drafts were automatically protected, plus players who were 18 or younger when signed in 1995.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
That's what the protected list for each team consisted of
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." -- Vince Lombardi
That would be some interesting decision making for the Rangers.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Thankfully there doesn't look to be any expansion any time soon
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Carl Everett
I have no clue. But I do remember some interview with Carl Everett, where he basically discussed going from a great organization to a brand new one, which was Florida.
Does that count? Okay, maybe not. Please, no hate mail.
Everett
The Marlins drafted him out of the Yankees organization.
Bobby Abreu was also taken in the expansion draft, from the Astros.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 6, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Scott Chiamparino
We lost him in 1992.
We traded Sammy Sosa and Wilson Alvarez for Harold Baines, then traded Baines for Chiamparino, then lost Chiamparino in the expansion draft.
Nice job, Tom Grieve.
I thought we got someone else, but couldn't remember who
You just explained why I couldn’t remember who…..
by Darrell McKown on Feb 6, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Chiamparino
I remember seeing him pitch for the Rangers right after we got him from the A’s, and being impressed. He looked like a solid pitcher.
And then he went down with T-J surgery.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
And he had the heart of a Chiampion
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Edwin Diaz
was one of those guys they lost in the last one. I thought he was going to be good his first couple of years in the organization.
Actually....
I’m not sure how hard it would be for the Rangers if there was a draft today.
Looking at the roster, you would probably protect something like:
Andrus
Borbon
Cruz
Davis
Feldman
Feliz
Francisco
Hamilton
Harden
Holland
Hunter
Kinsler
Saltalamacchia
Wilson
Young
So, in the first round, you would probably lose someone like Teagarden or Harrison or a lower level pitcher like Main or Font , then you would be able to protect three more players and your risk in subsequent rounds would be even less.
Young
And you only protect him if required to due to his no-trade clause.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 6, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Moreland
I thought about him.
It wouldn’t make any sense for an expansion team to draft Murphy unless they were going to trade him immediately.
I’m guessing you would lose a low-minors pitcher or Teagarden.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 6, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
An expansion team
They need players who can step in right away. Murphy could start for them for 2-3 years, be a fan favorite and face of the franchise while they are losing 100 games.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And make $20 million through his arbitration years
In that scenario…..
by Darrell McKown on Feb 6, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Well
He’ll make $450K or so in 2010.
$2.5 million in 2011.
$4 million in 2012.
You’d probably nontender him after that, but if you’re an expansion team this offseason looking at your options, he’d certainly be a reasonable pickup.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
Murphy is a classic expansion pick. Solid but limited player; passable as a starter and can fill many roles is necessary. Teagarden would be my other guess, since decent catchers aren’t usually availabe through expansion drafts; though Murphy would probably be lost first and Tea would be protected among the next three.
Go Rice Owls!
Under that list
O’Day would be taken pretty quickly wouldn’t he?
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You would probably be able to protect him soon enough
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yeah I suppose
no one would take O’Day in the first round.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
"I will not stop referring to Japanese people as Japs despite how racially charged that term is." - LSJ on being asked by WyoRanger
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I would guess
Teagarden would most likey be selected in the 1st round, being a young catcher with 5 years of team control remaining. Probably a guy like Harrison or McCarthy in the second round and a decent prospect in the 3rd. That would be pretty damn painful.
by Randy Richardson on Feb 6, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't protect Young
no one would take him with that contract.. Protect Smoak instead. Maybe perez instead of FF.
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Smoak
You don’t have to protect him since he’s a 2008 draftee.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 6, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Young
You would probably have to protect him since he has a partial no-trade clause.
Smoak was a 2008 draftee and Perez was an under-18 2007 signee.
by Darrell McKown on Feb 6, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Lee Stevens in 97?
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Didn't the Marlins get their first first baseman from the Rangers?
I can’t remember that guy’s name. Played several years, though.
Orestes Destrade?
Don’t think he was ever a Ranger.
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by Cecilio's Guante on Feb 7, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
I thought Clancy was a former Ranger farm hand
and don’t forget the great Doug Ault.
Farris in ’93.
Get your guns up!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Post confusion...
Ault played for Tech.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
What the hell has happened to tech baseball lately?
I have had several friends play there and they had good careers but it really seems like the program hasnt been exceptionally good for several years. Tech used to have a very good baseball program IMO. Right now its not bad but i wouldnt call it good either. Just an average D1 program
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
Seemed to me like Larry Hays just hung on too long
Very similar to Mark Johnson at A&M, he had a once-solid program that was on the decline, but he was synonymous with the school’s baseball program so it was tough to force him out.
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Did TR Sullivan hack AJM's account or something?
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I remember
we lost an infielder in 97. Don’t remember who though.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
"I will not stop referring to Japanese people as Japs despite how racially charged that term is." - LSJ on being asked by WyoRanger
I have no idea why I remember this,
but we lost Hanley Frias to the D-Backs in ’97.
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re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
That sounds right
I think Frias and Diaz in 97/
by Brett Perryman on Feb 6, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
All I know is Reimer
I was upset when the Rockies took him.
I have no clue who would have been taken in 1977 – was someone like Dave Steib a Rangers prospect? And I’m kind of annoyed that I can’t think of who TB and the DBacks took
Go Rice Owls!
really cool question
kind of upset that I had no clue about anybody. Kevin Reimer should not have been hard but I can’t even say that it was vaguely familiar.
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and wagered……..TEXAS
by death of the cool on Feb 6, 2010 10:57 PM CST reply actions
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