Sunday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 7, 2010 10:34 AM CST
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PrintAnother very quiet day out there for Rangers news...maybe there's something else sports-related that is distracting everyone...
The Columbus Ledger-Enquirer has a story about Kasey Kiker, and the strides he made last year.
That's it, it appears.
In the meantime, I know it is slow and boring, but can we try to avoid having a bunch of insults and namecalling in the comments today?
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for playing your part, Mike.
by ghostofErikThompson on Feb 7, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
You should start your own blog
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Surely he was referring to...
Glorious Chelsea triumphing over the Gooners from Arsenal?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
It's like playing cards with my brother's kids or something.
In the meantime, I know it is slow and boring, but can we try to avoid having a bunch of insults and namecalling in the comments today?
You big meanie!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
best line of the movie is from the same scene
“You gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?”
Lint Licker
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I'm taking the Saints
and the points.
Lots of unintentional comedy on LSB in the last few days.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I'm with you on the Saints
it seems like the VAST majority of people are taking the Colts by a million…At the very least, I think it’ll be a very close game, and I actually like the Saints to win.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I'm going with Norm, even though that's a kiss of death.
Colts minus-5 and the under (57).
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
give me the colts
4-15 for first time appearances in the super bowl plus the tampa bay curse. No team has ever won a super bowl the same year they lost the tampa bay in the regular season. Saints got beat by them in what, week 15, 16?
Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect
by 34express on Feb 7, 2010 12:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Norm was 10 games under .500 this year
and also had the Cowboys on a triple play v. the Vikes.
The Colts really haven’t been a dominant team this year …hold on…in the sense that they completely obliterate teams. They won several close games throughout the season but also had a tremendous amount of good fortune. Truly dominant teams don’t fall behind 17-6 to the Jets at home.
Not having Freeney is going to hurt and I also think Payton is a heckuva coach.
Nawlins 24-20.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The Jets aren't that bad.
They beat a very good SD team the week before, eh? Freeney is playing I thought? Though I think he’ll be hampered, especially as the game goes on.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
3 years ago, people were singing the same tune
Dominant teams don’t fall behind 21-3, even against the Patriots.
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You heard it
hard and fast from Josey Wales.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Do break your neck.
Who gives a shit what Josey says.............................
by Lil' Jonny Donuts on Feb 8, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Why take the under ?
I know that a lot of gambling vets like the under because SB offenses rarely live up to their billing…but these really were 2 of the top offenses during the year and just hung 28+ points each (in regulation) on 2 of the best defenses in their Championship games.
I’m not saying that the under is a stupid bet, I just don’t think it’s such a slam dunk bet that you’d throw it out there in addition to your line pick.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
There is a theory out there..
…that Peyton is going to slow the offense down, milk a lot of time off the clock, and do a bunch of those short 4-5 yard passes to limit the amount of time the Saint offense can spend on the field.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Sure.
I feel like both SD and Indy learned from their past (and maybe NE’s record setting season) and decided that while scoring points is always the end goal, that milking clock is just as important. I really think that’s the reason that Peyton didn’t set any record this year, but his team performed so well. And I remember being shocked out how well SD could possess the ball against the Cowboys, a team that is pretty damn good at it. Neither of them have great running games, but they get it done.
To clarify what I was saying earlier, I would probably bet the under if forced to pick one. But I just don’t think it’s that slam dunk of a bet when you have 2 of the top offenses in the league that have proven they can score very quickly (especially in the 2 min before halftime) that the under is a very safe bet. But then again, I don’t think either side should be super confident with Colts +5. This is not Colts v Bears, either team really could win. If you were going to add a bet to the line, I think Superbowl MVP would be a better one. Saints + Brees, Colts + Manning with Sharper and Garcon to hedge your bets respectively.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Colts 31, Saints 20
Peyton struggles early, but he’ll figure it out. Saints are forced to settle for field goals.
One thing you are right about is the unintentional comedy.
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Does anyone here think Erik Bedard will rebound from his surgery
or is that signing a bad one?
I forget what the terms are
..but from what I’ve read it’s very questionable whether or not he’ll be able to pitch at all this year, and if he does he’s likely to suck. I’m guessing they got him for 2011 or something.
by Black Francis on Feb 7, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Although Cot's doesn't have it listed, the media reported a mutual option for 2011.
But for Seattle, and for $1.5 million dollars… I don’t know. It doesn’t strike me as a terrible signing for that club, but I can’t imagine it’s striking fear into the hearts of the other AL West front offices, either.
I should've thought to look over at LL first.
There’s also an $8m mutual option for 2011, but mutual options never get exercised, because if the player is bad the team won’t pick it up, and if the player is good the player won’t pick it up. I’m not entirely sure why mutual options even exist.
This seems like a good mutual option to me
If Bedard can’t come back till the ASB lets say hes only gonna have a half seasons worth of stats to go off of for next winter. In this economy with guys like Harden and Sheets (high injury risks) getting what they got if he pitches well in that half a season 8 mil for 2011 may be a nice salary.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Don’t you collect a draft pick if a Type A or B free agent walks in a mutual option year? Sounds like a good reason for them to exist to me.
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It is
if the player doesn’t accept the mutual option, the team can still offer arbitration and collect that pick.
Teams offer them to give a few more $$$ to the player without adding to the team’s payroll for this year.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
The team still has to offer arbitration after the option's declined, no?
From a compensation pick standpoint, how is this different than a simple club (or player) option, or for that matter a one-year deal with no option at all?
I’m not sure I follow the second sentence…
There's a buy out
in the mutual option even if the player declines it. It’s a way of controlling the payroll for this year while still giving the player more $$$ value on the contract.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
OK ~ that makes sense, I suppose.
I wonder how much it actually matters, but I can see how it could, given the right financial circumstances.
I still don’t follow the point about the compensation picks. How does a mutual option change the calculus, there?
Nada
the team can still offer arbitration to the player even if the player declines the option. They still get a pick if the player qualifies and another team signs them.
So, if the Vlad and Harden gambles turn out well, the Rangers might have a lot of freakin picks coming to them.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I think
it matters for teams like the Rangers which had a severely limited budget. I don’t know why the Ms are doing it, maybe to push the final dollar value of the contract above offers from, say, Baltimore.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I think so
Padillas buyout counts towards next years payroll for us for instance
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yeah ~ I thought I was seeing something different,
but it was a poorly worded explanation.
Does seem that the mutual option’s main purpose is to provide deferred payroll, and I’d imagine that the lower transaction costs explain why that deferred money isn’t packaged another way.
yeah
Although like I said in this case I could actually see it being exercised. Say Bedard comes back in Mid July and struggles through about 4 starts but then finishes the year strong. His overall numbers may not be steller which along with his injury history probably means he won’t make much more than 8 million in 2011 anyway. And at that price the Ms could exercise it and hope he builds off the strong finish along with how he did in 2009 and say 8 million is a bargain.
Neither of the Rangers cases look to be exercisable but Bedards does
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Adam posted a link showing he's hitting the 60 day DL right off the bat.
If I read correctly, he won’t be able to start his rehab until July.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Can't pitchers on the 60-day DL spend half that time pitching with a minor-league team?
Bedard’s rehab won’t have to wait until July, and given 60 days, he could be off the DL sometime in June. It’s much more a question of how quickly he’s ready to face MLB batters.
I don't think he will physically be able to pitch until July in the majors.
He is rehabilitating with a physical therapist in his native Canada following surgery in August to repair a torn labrum in his pitching shoulder. Last week, Mariners trainer Rick Griffin said the normal recovery time for the procedure is 10-12 months. That would have Bedard making his season debut in June at the earliest.
This makes it sound like he won’t be able to even be in the minors until June, meaning he probably won’t be in the majors until July. I wasn’t meaning to say he wouldn’t be able to be in the MLB because of the 60 day DL thing. It was because of his pitching.
I also found out you can’t be put on the DL until the first day of the season. So that’s why they had to drop a guy off the 40 to make room for Bedard until their first game. Then he’ll hit the 60 and they’ll bring someone up on their 40 until Bedard is ready to come back I assume.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
OK, but joining the Mariners' rotation in July is different than starting rehab in July.
There’s also this, though I’m skeptical, since this is from Bedard’s agent:
As for Bedard’s health, coming off last August’s surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder, Pieper said Bedard is going off the estimation of Dr. Lewis Yocum, who performed the surgery.
"He told us eight to nine months, which puts you in April or May,‘’ he said. “I do understand that there are reports all over the board. In fairness to other doctors, we’re going off Dr. Yocum. He’s the surgeon, he’s well respected, he’s the one that knows Erik best”
[…]
"The way Erik feels is consistent with being able to come back at that time… We don’t want to over-promise. We’re going off the information we have,and that’s kind of the date we’re shooting for. If he comes back in the middle of May, boy, that would be outstanding."
You got me. Month fail on my part.
I should have put either he wouldn’t be ready for the Majors until July or he wouldn’t be ready to rehad until June. And I suppose those are just predictions on my part and what I’ve read. Namely his trainer.
I did see that blurb you put up, but like you said it was from his agent and I didtn’ put too much stock into it. I’d take his trainers word over his agents 90% of the time.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I will try to not call anyone names.....
but i should get some kind of accomodations for my Tourettes Syndrome….
I will just be talking and then….BALL SACK!!!!!! NIPPLES LICKER!!!!!!! just comes out.
by death of the cool on Feb 7, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions
Just so you know
A couple of us here- myself and Inkara1- actually have Tourette Syndrome.
I’m not the type to get easily offended about it, but most of us really don’t blurt out obscenities uncontrollably- only about 10% of TS people have that particular affliction.
And that’s today’s lesson in sensitivity. :)
"Jesus, Spanish- first our jobs, now our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
my friend had TS
and the only way you could tell was because his eye twitched a lot, otherwise it wasn’t noticeable. he was really cool about it though and was always very open and would answer questions about it if someone asked. good guy
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
by sunlegend54 on Feb 7, 2010 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
When I used to work in TV
the weekend sportscaster had Tourette Syndrome. When he was off-air, he was affected by it a lot, but could control it when the camera was on. I always admired him because I’m sure a billoin people told him that because of TS he wouldn’t be able to pursue that line of work. I think about him and his struggles and overcoming negative people when someone tells me that my dreams are out of reach.
/The More You Know
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I'm going to get raked over the coals for admitting this
I was watching American Idol and they had a guy on there with Tourette’s. His neck would jerk and his eye would twitch pretty often and obvious. But when he would sing, it would completely stop and he’d have control over it. He was actually pretty good and they gave him a pass to go to Vegas.
I’m going to be curious to see how far he goes.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
American Idol
I was talking to my mom last night, and she told me about the guy. I haven’t watched the show in a while, but I’ll have to check it out to see him.
"Jesus, Spanish- first our jobs, now our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Location Nazi
Vegas = Hollywood
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
Yes thank you. I'm not sure why I put down Vegas.
Just my own wishful thinking of where I’d like to be.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Fair enough.
Never been, and I’m only 22, but I would sure love to go and check the place out. Obviously I hear it’s quite a blast.
But to follow up on the actual point of your original comment, I thought the guy was quite brave and talented for getting up there despite having an obvious hindrance. I was very impressed and I hope the guy does well.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
x
brave and talented for getting up there despite having an obvious hindrance.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
I haven't been since turning 21.
My wife (then gf) has gone and keeps trying to get me to go, but I always get the impression that you have to have lots of cash to throw around to enjoy Vegas. She tells me that there’s plenty of stuff to do that doesn’t cost a lot…but I dunno.
For the money it takes to spend 3-4 nights in Vegas, you could have a very nice vacation in a place like the Caribbean or South America, where you spend most of your money getting there but everything is cheap once you arrive. Thoughts?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
well
you certainly can spend tons of money in Vegas.
But there is a lot of value in just walking from casino to casino, seeing the different resorts and so forth. I could walk around the Wynn and Bellagio all day long, though certainly couldn’t afford to play anything more than a slot machine there.
If you go downtown, stay at a place like the Golden Nugget, it isn’t as luxurious but it isn’t expensive at all – cheap room prices, good drink deals, etc. Even can find $3 tables and stuff there.
Go Rice Owls!
I had a phenomenal time in Old Town,
$5 tables made me very happy after losing my ass at the $15 tables on the strip. Damn I still get pissed thinking about how much I lost before even finding out about Old Town.
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Feb 7, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't been back to Vegas since the Wynn completed.
I’ve been anxious to get back to give it a look. Like you said, just walking from casino to casino is really nice, as the atmosphere tends to change quite a bit from place to place.
I’d say depending on the time of day or night, you can play cheap just about anywhere. Even the Bellagio has $5 tables late at night.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
by JBP on Feb 8, 2010 5:44 AM CST up reply actions
Tim Howard
The US National Team goalkeeper has Tourette’s and he performs at a high level week in and week out. I think the only adverse ramifications he suffers is of idiotic opposing fans who make crude and insensitive remarks.
Although, sitting in the stands at an Everton (Howard’s club team) match you’d think the entire crowd had the type of Tourette’s that induces random cussing. I’ve never heard so much colorful language concentrated in one place before.
What's the rumpus?
And now we know!
And knowing is half the battle!
you have effectively killed the cool
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I'm with Sickels...
I think “we” are really down on Kiker. I think he has a good year and makes it up later in the year as a lefty reliever to blow people away with the fastball and fool ’em with the change up.
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
I think so many are down on him because of where he was drafted and who he was drafted after
Lincecum and Scherzer were drafted the two spots before Kiker. Kiker is nowhere near those guys but hes done a pretty damn good job. Yes he walks a few too many people but damn, the kid has progressed a level each year being one of the youngest at each stop. And regardless of what scouting reports may say about his lack of velocity or whatever he has maintained a pretty consistent strikeout rate which everyone here bitches and moans about at the ML level. His ultimate future may well be as a lefty reliever in the CJ wilson mold but I think he could give us a couple really solid seasons as a starter.
Had he been in our system back at the beginning of the decade people would have been all over his nuts because our system was dry of pitching prospects. But now that we have guys like Perez, Scheppers, Holland, Feliz, etc guys seem to take guys like Kiker for granted.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Selling tickets to Big Steve's planet
“All Abooaarrdd…!!!!”
yeah, Lincecum and Scherzer where drafted BEFORE the rangers pick
and they were college guys.
And as for the guys after him in that 1st round, i don’t think i’d take any other pitcher that was selected over Kiker. .
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Kyle Drabek is the obvious one
I’d probably take trade Kiker for Travis Snider or Hank Conger, as well.
If you’re including the supplemental first round, Daniel Bard, Joba Chamberlain, and Chris Coghlan were all taken.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 7, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
What a draft for high risk guys
Every draft has them, but that year really had what appears to be an unusual number realize their value. Whether makeup (Drabek) or mechanics (Lincecum) or health (Joba); lots of good names were passed over for reasons that make teams feel dumb now.
Go Rice Owls!
huh
you would feel dumb for passing on a player with health, makeup, or mechanics issues?
not a fair sample size you’re looking at there…
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
If those turn out to be unfounded then yeah
You think the 9 teams who passed on Lincecum don’t look back and wonder “what if”? Maybe TB (Longoria) and the Dodgers (Kershaw) are the only ones who wouldn’t but I everyone else probably has.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
yeah, extreme 20/20
but, at the moment, why would you take someone you’re not comfortable with because of those issues? why would they feel dumb now? what about all the other players they passed for those reasons who didn’t amount to anything?
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
generally I agree
I don’t have a problem with the Rangers taking Kiker over Drabek or Joba.
I’m just saying that that draft was weird for the success rate of guys people avoided
Go Rice Owls!
Ill give you Snider
But Drabek does nothing for me really and id call it a tossup between Kiker and Conger
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hah
You’re pretty much alone on Drabek then.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely on Snider
no thank you on Conger. He really doesn’t walk that much and all his power advantage is contingent on him staying at catcher, which seems like an iffy proposition.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
LSJ thinks using "Jap" is aOK and refuse to stop using the racially charged term on being asked by WyoRanger
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Watching the end of Major Leagues on Comedy Central right now
Really gets me thinking of the feeling of winning the division and making the playoffs. I need that again.
He's just goofin', new paddle goofin'.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Feb 7, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Heh, I posted a roommate ad
on craigslist and got this call:
“Hi so I understand that there are two guys already there right” Yeah. “well are you guys pretty clean.?” Well, I guess about average, not too messy, keep the commons clean for sure. “oh, Ok, because I really like to clean. I really like to clean all of the time.” Oh ok well as long as you are not OCD about it. “Just to be clear, I like to be told to clean all the time, I like to be made to clean up and do my chores.” Oh I get it, Click.\
My roommate was pissed at me as we could have stored the cleaning gimp in the basement and brought him out only for chores or part talk when needed…..and rent out his room…and it would have been fine because it apparenty wasn’t in his constitution to complain. ONly in Austin.
That is absolutly hilarious.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
And unsettling
All at the same time.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Holy shit I have tears. That was funny as hell.
Josey Wales born on LSB July 18, 2006 Jumped the shark--That glorious day in 2008. RIP Josey Wales.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
No news is good news?
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
Am I pathetic for snickering at that?
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
ESPN radio
Now that ESPN has fired Michael Irvin for low ratings and alleged rape, it just occurred to me that they fired the most annoying white guy in radio today. Kevin Kiley. I may start to listen to their station again during the mid-day.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Kiley and RJ Choppy
ran a close 1 & 2 for that distinction
Great stuff on NBC.......
Ovie and Sid each with 2 goals. Caps vs Pens is a great rivalry these days. Hoping for a rematch in the playoffs. Last year’s series was epic.
11 days until pitchers and catchers
5 days until winter olympics
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
nothing like the sounds and smells of baseball
to usher in Spring after a long winter.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Profar
according to Sickels in the All Questions Answered thread, the scouts from other teams aren’t nearly as high on Profar as the Rangers are. Isn’t this the exact opposite of what Goldstein said?
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
LSJ thinks using "Jap" is aOK and refuse to stop using the racially charged term on being asked by WyoRanger
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Well
Not necessarily. Sickels has probably talked to scouts with other teams that aren’t as high on Profar as the Rangers are. Goldstein has talked to scouts that raved about his instincts, makeup, etc. Those aren’t necessarily incompatible…for one, they are probably talking to different guys.
The reality is that the Rangers probably are higher on him than most other teams, or else another team would have come in and signed him. From what I understand, only Texas and Baltimore were really all that high on him as a shortstop prospect. So it wouldn’t be surprising to me if Sickels talked to scouts with other teams who don’t think he’s as great as the Rangers think he is.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 7, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
The biggest question with him is his hit tool, correct?
And his high rank is due to athleticism, arm strength, work ethic, and polish?
Shedazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHEDAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know about "polish"
He’s got tools and great attitude/makeup/etc.
No one has any idea if he’ll hit, though.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 7, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
"Polish" in the sense that he understands the reply feature
And the preview button
Shedazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHEDAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Though, it is said by some
that Sardinas is both faster and “rangier”. Profar’s two plus tools are his arm and his heart apparently. He’s like lil’ Lemon with arm strength….
He's probably going to have
quite a bit more power than Sardinas too if they both pan out.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Given the inconsistent
accounts for our “baby andrus”, only half serious there…but the Lemon comp should give one pause (“gutsy, cerbral, winner, smart” before “plus tools”…)
Profar's tools >>>> Lemon's tools
not sure if you’re saying that or disagreeing with it, but I don’t think it’s real close. No one thinks that Lemon has the athleticism to handle SS, for example, and he doesn’t have much of an arm.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
neither
I’m saying when the first thing out of people’s mouths about a prospect are that he’s heady rather than he has plus range, speed, and golden hands then there is reason to pause and recognize the hype for what it is.
like with Andrus?
The only significant difference between Elvis Andrus and Joaquin Arias is between the ears.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take the plus tools
and a normal 16yo every time over the 16yo with “wer’e not sure” tools and the natural born leader halo. That seems to be the most important difference that you are missing: it isn’t at all clear that Profar has the range and speed that Andrus has.
He doesn't have the speed
but you are not hearing anyone question his ability at shortstop, unlike Lemon.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
What is Profar's speed upside?
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A little above average?
Speed related quotes from BA/BP:
He has a chance to be a plus defender at shortstop thanks to his sure hands, plus arm and average range…His average speed plays up on the basepaths because of his intelligence.
He’s a switch-hitter with easy raw power, as well as a plus fielder with impressive speed, giving him range to both sides to go with smooth actions and an outstanding arm…Perfect World Projection: Elvis Andrus with secondary skills.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
Sickels
is also predisposed to really strange taste when it comes to international guys who haven’t played in the US. If you go through his historical rankings, besides the fact that he’s pathologically conservative with highly ranked, lower level guys (for example, last year he didn’t rank Julio Teheran in the Braves top 20, ranked Casey Kelly #11, Starlin Castro #11, Kyle Drabek #11, Derek Norris #13 – all way out of line with the other rankings and completely unnecessarily low), he picks really odd ones to be his exceptions. So I’m not putting a lot of stock into whoever he’s talking to for those reports.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
"Polish" in the smiles and impresses old people sense
Not a polished ballplayer
Shedazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHEDAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 3:04 PM CST reply actions
Jurickson Profarsky
Shedazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHEDAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
More Ranger Trivia
MLB began its annual June Amateur Drafts in 1965.
Name the 10 players and 1 coach that were the #1 Overall Draft Pick that appeared in at least one game in a Texas Rangers uniform.
As always, no Googling, no Wikipediaing, no Baseball Referencing…just brain power.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Okay
Phil Nevin
Alex Rodriguez
Kris Benson
David Clyde
Harold Baines
…
Now I’m stuck.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 7, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Come on AJM
Adrian Gonzalez and Josh Hamilton
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"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
LSJ thinks using "Jap" is aOK and refuse to stop using the racially charged term on being asked by WyoRanger
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Didn't Sean Burroughs
win a MVP with us?
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
LSJ thinks using "Jap" is aOK and refuse to stop using the racially charged term on being asked by WyoRanger
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Fuck right
Jeff Burroughs. That’s 9?
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
LSJ thinks using "Jap" is aOK and refuse to stop using the racially charged term on being asked by WyoRanger
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Trivia Answers
Player – Year Drafted
- Jeff Burroughs – 1969
- Dave Roberts – 1972 (Played for Texas in 1979-1980) – not the 2004 Red Sox ALCS base stealer
- David Clyde – 1973
- Floyd Bannister – 1976 (Played in Texas in 1992)
- Harold Baines – 1977
- Phil Nevin – 1992
- Alex Rodriguez – 1993
- Kris Benson – 1996
- Josh Hamilton – 1999
- Adrian Gonzalez – 2000
Coach
- Tim Foli – 1968 (Coached with Bobby Valentine in 1986-1987)
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Tabata and Milledge notes
Kinda interesting – the first two items here
I keep waiting for whispers about MPer’s age to start bubbling up.
Rangers pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report on Thursday, February 18.
Shut up
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Well, Adam
If you’d do more than herd comments around here, and actually provide some analysis from time to time,..
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
More #1 pick trivia
Can anyone name the 5 #1 overall picks in the June draft that have never played in the majors?
Brien Taylor
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by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
what about Beckham and Strasburg?
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by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
I did too
No way anybody gets it.
If they did, they cheated.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by LSJ on Feb 7, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
Never heard of the guy.
Shedazz. She's sensitive. Just like jazz. SHEDAZZ.
by Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge on Feb 7, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Steve Chilcott
Drafted before Reggie Jackson in 1966 by the Mets.
And no, I didn’t look it up- remembered it from Rob Neyer’s Big Book of Baseball Blunders.
The story was that the Mets wanted a catcher and passed on Reggie, who said he was told that the real reason was that he had a “white girlfriend,” even though the woman he was dating at the time was actually Hispanic.
"Jesus, Spanish- first our jobs, now our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Fangraphs now has splits!!!!
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Ohhhhhh yeah baby.
I’ve been waiting for this for… since I first found the website.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
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