Wednesday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 10, 2010 9:04 AM CST
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PrintRich Harden had a rough outing yesterday, getting yanked in the third inning after he reached his pitch limit, but he says he was good the first two innings, and just had problems with his mechanics in the third.
Evan Grant has a game summary from yesterday's game up at the DMN blog, and Anthony Andro has one up at the S-T site.
Jesse Sanchez has a story about Nelson Cruz, who feels he can focus on just preparing for the season to come this spring, rather than worrying about whether or not he has a job.
Grant says that the fact that Vladimir Guerrero is running well is a good sign, since it indicates he's healthier than he was last year, and is more likely to perform like he did before 2009.
Andro has a chart up with updates on all the Rangers' injured players.
Jeff Wilson writes about Tanner Scheppers, and includes a quote from Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who compares Scheppers to where Neftali Feliz was last spring, and says that Scheppers can contribute this year.
Joey Matches wonders if we weren't all drinking the Kool Aid on Chris Davis after the 2008 season.
Evan Grant thinks the Edwar Ramirez acquisition could lead to a deal with the Minnesota Twins for a utility infielder or a catcher.
Randy Galloway has a column up about Nolan Ryan as owner, and comparing Ryan to Jerry Jones.
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Charlie Hough...
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 10, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I was wondering
Wilmer Font? Fabio Castillo? Neil Ramirez?
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 10, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
Benoit is my guess
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I have to think it's someone more prominent
by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
McCarthy?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I always thought McCarthy was too smart
for his own good.
Crash Davis told us all long ago “Don’t think. It hurts the club.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
He's just so tall and skinny
that it’s hard to see his body as the ideal.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
about McCarthy. He’s really not the prototypical body type since he’s about 6’7" 150 pounds.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 10, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
I figured it out
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 10, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The first two names that popped into my head
were CJ Wilson and Vicente Padilla
by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
Put me down for CJ
Why else would he start to talk about him in the next paragraph like a continuation of what he was writing before? He all but wrote “and speaking of CJ….”
Why would he withhold the name
And then have Ryan go on to say that he’s eager to see the CJ Wilson starting experiment
Seams reasonable
That part is positive, the other has a very negative connotation.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
It seems to me that Nolan Ryan
likes everything about CJ the pitcher but is probably not so crazy about his constant desires to “communicate.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 10, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
I would guess Padilla
but I don’t know why they would ever withhold his name. He is one of the most talented pitchers ever to wear the hat.
But Padilla never struck me as having a great frame
I would think it has to be CJ (height, general physical fitness) or BMac maybe?
Okay
Just for fun, I asked this question of several baseball people in camp: “In 2012, who will be the starting first baseman for the Rangers, Chris Davis or prospect Justin Smoak?”
The answer on so many dance cards: Mitch Moreland, who tore it up between Bakersfield and Frisco last season. Kinda shocked me, particularly as a Davis fan.
Jamey’s email this morning mentioned that on his radio show yesterday Galloway used the words five in place of several and leading in place of so many. So at least three of five Rangers execs are predicting Moreland over Smoak and Davis in two years? Please don’t overthink this, guys. This mindset is reminiscent of how you frittered away Hafner and Gonzalez.
Yep
Moreland, older than Smoak and Davis, and who is at a lower level than Smoak and Davis, and who isn’t as well regarded as Smoak and Davis, suddenly is the first baseman of the future?
Although this could be talking Moreland up because they know they are probably going to have to move him.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 10, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
That was my thought
I don’t expect Moreland to be with the club next year at this time.
Jamey’s trade idea of Smoak or Davis, Holland or Harrison, Font or (I forget who else) for Cain and DeRosa made me gag. I apparently don’t hold Cain in as high esteem as some.
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That would be an awful awful trade, and I actually like Cain.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Davis, Harrison, Font
for Cain and DeRo isn’t a bad trade at all.
Smoak, Holland, Font for those 2 is entirely too much — and since Smoak and Holland were presumably too much to stomach for Halladay at the deadline last season — gota think Jamey wasn’t thinking Smoak AND Holland.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I figure...
…if it were Smoak, it would be Harrison, and if it were Davis, it would be Holland.
Regardless, I wouldn’t deal Smoak or Holland for Cain.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
why the Cain hate?
he’s been a pretty good pitcher at the tender age of 22, 23, and 24? Can we really expect Holland to develop into more than Cain?
I’m not sure Holland + Davis isn’t all that bad of a deal for Cain. Font for DeRo is probably a bit much, but Jamey does love him some DeRosa… :)
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
went back and looked
Cain: tRA+ of 127, 106, and 114 as a 22, 23, and 24 yr old. That’s pretty damn good.
Still wouldn’t do Holland AND Smoak for him, but Jamey’s initial offer isn’t that off-the-wall.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
He's just not as good
as many assume him to be. He’s a good pitcher, but not the guy I would consider trading Holland or Smoak for as THE big trade acquisition at the deadline.
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Do you think Holland projects to be better?
4 straight seasons with a WAR of 3.5-4.0 and he doesn’t turn 26 until the end of this season. I’m not sure you give up Smoak, but I think you’d have to pull the trigger on a deal involving Holland.
also
a decent chance he could jump to the 5ish WAR area. He’s got a great FB but has been inconsistent with his command of his curve — which is a true out-pitch when he’s on with it. More consistency with that and…
25 yr old pitchers with his talent who have been in the Majors can really step forward, and I think Ryan and Maddux could help Cain do just that.
I’d want an extension, but I’d be very interested in getting Cain into the fold.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Its not about what they've done
Its about what they will do. If I knew we were getting the Cain that has done as good as he has (luck or not), that’s one thing. Right now, that’s nowhere near a guarantee and Cain’s also only locked up for another 2 years.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
what?
you don’t want Cain because you want to go with what may happen with two 23 yr old, inexperienced kids rather than go with what you can be pretty certain you’ll get from a 25 yr old pitcher with 3 years of ML service to back those expectations?
All because Holland could turn into Cain — if we’re lucky?
Gdawg… that doesn’t make sense.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
If you look past Cain's ERA
There are a few reasons to dislike him for the future. His trade value is going to be based around his ERA while his actual value is going to be less. For example, last season’s 2.89 ERA over 217 IP looks great, but how much of that was due to his .268 BABIP and his 81.6 LOB%? This is also a guy that has always had a lower HR/FB rate than he should which is more likely a result of the ballparks he gets to play in vs. an actual skill to be able to have a HR/FB rate that is half of what should be expected.
Like I said, if I knew we were getting the 3.5-4 WAR player he’s been, I’d be okay with the deal. As it stands, you want to trade 6 years of Holland, who I believe is going to begin emerging as a TORP this season, and 5 years of Davis/6 years of Smoak for 2 years of Cain who is very likely to not be anywhere near what he has been so far. Plus, Holland could turn into something closer to Lincecum than Cain if you want to talk about where his potential is.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Of course
in July we may know a lot more about Holland. Right now it’s a little harder to say. It’s not unreasonable to think that Holland could be the Rangers best starter this year. I don’t expect it, but it could happen.
Holland’s MAJOR league peripherals already compare favorably with Cain’s, excepting HR rate. His minor league numbers are better than Cain’s were. I think the Rangers owe it to themselves to keep Holland. To repeat myself, if you want Cain, give up someone other than Holland to get him.
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Also, if you look at their xFIPs
Last year, Cain had a 4.22 xFIP while Holland had a 4.38 xFIP.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
The K9 and BB9 are also fairly close
Holland 6.96 and 3.06
Cain 7.07 and 3.02
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
thats a horrible deal imho
and i like cain a good bit
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Could Moreland play left field/DH?
Im sure this has been discussed before but it could be possible to have all three in the lineup.
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Slow feet. So, not really ideal for RBiA LF.
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And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
you've got to think one will be traded
just like the catching situation; it all depends on how Davis performs and how fast Smoak and Moreland are ready; I think one of those 3 are traded, and unless we get a frontline young starter, it WON’T be Smoak.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
not directly at you
but who thinks that all 3 of moreland/smoak/davis pan out?
if you have to guess one that flames out isnt it moreland?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
I think Davis has the higher degree of variability
but all 3 will play in the major leagues barring injury.
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see you would think that
and it’s not like it’s an apples to apples argument, with Smoak, Davis and Moreland vs. Tex, Gonzalez and Hafner – although really you could say Smoak and Gonzalez match up draft wise, Tex has a big advantage on Davis prospect wise but Davis was pretty high up there, and I could see a Moreland and Hafner comp.
Anyways, I could see Moreland sticking as a DH; Smoak and Davis as 1B; in the right scenarios. I would say 2 of the 3 certainly pan out, and yes, one flames out. And probably Moreland, since he hasn’t touched a bat in the majors yet, and isn’t the huge prospect Smoak is.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
im not at all comparing smoak/davis/moreland to tex/hafner/gonzalez at all
sorry if i was appearing to
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Not all 3 have to be traded
Moreland could end up sticking in the OF. He needs at least another season in the minors and the Rangers future OF situation isn’t guaranteed right now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
got that right
it’s very conceivable that Moreland replaces Cruz in RF and Cruz either gets traded or replaces Hamilton in LF.
Any number of scenarios could play out with Moreland.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
I think Joey Matchsticks
has something on Davis though.
It’s tough to find successful hitters with High K rates and low BB rates.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Joey Matches take on CDavis
is one of the best I’ve seen.
When did The Newberg start quoting RG without pouting or taking a shot back at him?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I thought you were anti-RG
beyond any shadow of a doubt and thought his columns were nothing but platforms to promote his radio show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Promote? More like set up.
I must not understand the definition of pouting.
Is there an UrbanJoseyDictionary that I don’t know about?
by Jamey Newberg on Mar 10, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Don't be so sensitive, Jamey.
Just tweaking you because you’ve been so anti-Galloway in the very recent past and there have been a few firefights between you two when he wasn’t nice to JD.
Maybe pouting was the wrong word but I do find it somewhat funny you were quoting RG’s radio show.
Carry on the plan of the day and have a good time next week!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
When did The Newberg start quoting RG without pouting or taking a shot back at him?
i must say it is sad that grandpa urine actually is considered a competent sports writer. i would kill if we had Joe Posnanski instead of RG
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't that the truth
Pos just did a 2,500 word blog post on Branch Rickey’s use of the bonus baby rule and the Rule 5 draft. RG probably doesn’t know what any of those things are.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
the matt cain trade
very reminiscent of eaton trade.
But even still, the Rangers traded away their worse 1st baseman prospects and didn’t trade Tex until they couldn’t afford him. I don’t see how trading Smoak then makes sense. They aren’t going to get the big Tex haul for him and they’ll end up keeping the lesser of the 1st basemen prospects if they keep Moreland.
joking, right?
Matt Cain is far, far, far better than Eaton.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
somebody has a man-crush...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
you really think
Cain and Eaton are even close to the same pitcher?
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
Cain is fine
just not worth trading Holland or Smoak for.
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why not?
Smoak I understand… but why not Holland?
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
I think Holland
can be as good as Cain, why trade for Cain?
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OK.
I guess this is where we disagree. I’d rather take the guy who has already established himself as a solid #2.
If it were
ONLY Holland going instead of Jamey’s proposal, I’d feel differently obviously. But I’m not excited about DeRosa really, either, and giving up Holland AND Smoak or Davis AND another piece or two definitely does not excite me.
Anyway, all this is silly. We have no idea what the team will need at that point. It might very well need a first baseman, outfielder or catcher much more than it needs a starter.
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Like I said.
I don’t even think the price on Cain would be that high. I’m betting the only first-tier prospect you’d have to give up is Holland or Smoak.
highly doubtful
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
a #2
…in the NL…west.
dont say it doesnt matter, but pitching against that divison isnt exactly the AL east.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
In a hitter-friendly park
that punishes fly balls.
And the AL West is not a weak division compared to the NL West.
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Hmm, you are correct
I don’t really see why the Giants would trade him, though.
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fly ball pitchers
have had some success here before, and they weren’t nearly the pitcher Cain is.
His ERA would climb, but probably not much more than any other pitcher coming in here. His SO rate could help mitigate some damage too.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Well, as I said
it was the price I had a problem with more so than the pitcher acquired. I don’t like Cain as much as Jamey, and certainly not enough to offer Holland and Smoak, or Holland and Davis.
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yes my point
is that he did well in the NL and the NL west at that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
accelerate
Holland’s learning curve.
I agree I think Holland can be as good as Cain, but Cain is already as good as Cain.
Cain would be the 2nd best pitcher on this staff right now, and could log 200 innings of quality baseball. He’s 25, and if he’s remotely open to an extension through his age 28 or 29 year I’d be very interested.
No extension, then yeah I’m less enamored and would probably keep Holland.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
And I think you two may be overestimating Cain
Yes he’d good, and I’d be pretty happy with him as a #2 or #3. But his FIPs the last few years are not nearly as shiny as his ERAs, and how well does he do coming to a park that doesn’t like fly balls in the American League?
Jamey’s proposal is just a bit too much for my taste, and I think there might be better targets if you’re looking for a pitcher.
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Heh
good point. I’m fine with trading for Cain, just not at Jamey’s price.
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I fail to see
how Holland and Davis for Cain is too much for Cain. The caveat being that I’d want an extension from Cain but talent for talent and results for results — it isn’t that far off.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Team control
certainly plays a part as well. We’ve beaten this to death already.
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but
you really haven’t given any reasons that Holland and Davis are too much for Cain.
Why do you think that? I’m not arguing… I’m genuinely interested.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
cain has less years under team control than davis and holland
thats the arguement hes talking about
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
are we not trying to win
in 2010 and 2011?
I get the team control standpoint, but it’s entirely possible that Cain agrees to a 3 or 4 year extension.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
your not understanding the arguement
long term also matters
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
that much difference
in 6 years and 5?
And their ages are close enough that extending Holland through his first couple of FA years may not be all that important, especially depending on what it takes to do that.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
you simply do not get the arguement
search the site for team control
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
im not saying its a "silver bullet"
and should be viewed as the MOST important thing, but to ignore it/not think its a valid argument is foolish unless your a team like the dodgers, red sox, yankees, etc who have a near limitless payroll.
the rangers do not, therefore team control years are something that should always be considered.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
in the context of this trade
it is only valid if it can be proven that either Cain will not sign an extension, or Cain’s salary during said extension will prohibit the Rangers from making other moves, or that Holland’s expected production at the time Cain would leave cannot be assumed by another player at or below Holland’s expected pay rate at that time.
None of those is true, and certainly not to point that team control should be more than an ancillary factor in the deal.
While I understand the argument and the position, it just isn’t valid in this case.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
the point
is you cant prove that cain WILL sign an extention
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Team. Control.
We don’t have to pay big bucks to the two of them, and if Davis AND Smoak or Moreland work out, we have a cheap 1B and DH for years + cheap LH mid-to-upper rotation arm
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
kinda pie in the sky
to think they’re all going to work out.
Even if they do, turning one of them into a more valuable commodity is hardly a bad idea.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
its what the org thinks about them
obviously if davis/holland combined WAR = cain WAR over the next 3 years, you have a problem (1 X war player > 2 X war players that player 1’s WAR)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Sure I have
I think Holland’s ceiling is close to Cain’s and he’s already here (and under team control longer). Why deal Holland for Cain?
Furthermore, Holland is a lefty in a park that likes lefties better than righties, he gets more ground balls, had an underrated rookie campaign, etc.
Suffice it to say I think there are a lot of reasons to hang onto Holland. If you want Cain, offer someone else. I’m not giving up Feliz, Holland, or Perez for Cain.
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Holland's ceiling
about that of Cain, yes? So why not accelerate it, and still have the still somewhat secret Venezuelan lefty weapon ready to go to be the lefty that we all clamor over?
To accelerate the learning curve Holland is under now and get a bona-fide #2 starter that has shown to be able to chew up 200+ innings seems like a more than plausible move to me.
I love Holland too, and seeing him go would be hard, but this isn’t the Eaton comp someone below stated. Matt Cain can pitch.
Of course, entirely possible that Holland nixes this trade idea (too) and kicks everyone’s ass. I’m all for that set of events playing out too.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
See the line of thinking for me on this
is if they give us Cain for minimal package, take it and run. Otherwise, save our prospects for a sure thing # 1 young pitcher, which Cain, as much as you and I and others may or may not like him, is not. He’s a # 2 or 3 on this team, and a pretty good one, but we don’t need anymore of those right now. Note: I said NEED. We NEED a sure thing ace. If Harden is healthy this year, I think he is one. If Feliz puts it together after a bullpen first half, he has the capability. I even think personally there’s a chance CJ could be one if he gets the pitch count right…but others disagree.
Beyond that, we have Martin Perez, Scheppers and a chance Holland puts it together with a learning curve to give us # 1 or 2 arms…and if we’re lucky, Hunter, Feldman and Lewis can and will perform like # 2 arms for us.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry
But I really tire of the team control trump card. Of course, this is consistent with my infinity dollars theory of franchise management, so I’ll just accept that I’m unlikely to persuade many folks of the near irrelevance of team control.
Did I say anything about a trump card?
I said it plays a part. But it is important for a team with the current payroll issues the Rangers have.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
No, it's not
Cain far superior to Eaton. AND I don’t really think the asking price on Cain would be as high as in Jamey’s hypothetical anyway.
why would they move him
(cain)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know.
But there’s been talk of him being on the move since before the start of the 09 season. Could be bullshit.
since before 2008
The fans of SF have been so fed up with their team there has been rumblings trading Cain was the only real way to fix them for years now.
I’ll agree with KoK that it doesn’t make sense to trade him, and if they do it makes more sense to go after Smoak than Holland, but Cain is a guy high on my list of pitchers I’d love for Maddux and Ryan to get their hands on.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
id rather have any number of other guys
and that deal that he offered could get someone like nolasco id think
so who would rather have cain than say nolasco?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
not sure FLA
is looking 1B, and furthermore it is reasonable to expect FLA to be in the hunt more so than to expect SF to be. Cain’s also a year younger
I think Nolasco is the better pitcher too, but I don’t think it’s that far off and most likely there’s a better chance Cain is or would be available more than Nolasco.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
i dont think they are either
looking for a 1b that is
but id think nolasco is at least more likely to be on the block at the deadline compared to cain
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
not if FLA
is in the hunt. I think there’s a more reasonable chance of that than SF being in it.
Nolasco could be a prime candidate for a deal next season — unless MLB again forces FLA to actually pay their good players.
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
which is one reason they may trade him lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
well
with the Rangers system — it’s entirely possible to get Cain AND Nolasco. Now we’re talking…
by elvis1isking on Mar 10, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
heh
truetrue
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
If SF thinks trading Cain would improve their team
then they’d be looking for a hell of a lot more than what I’d be willing to give up in return
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Nolan Ryan on Dan Patrick right now
XM 142
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Cowardly Cattleman Calls Off Cruz Culling!
Details at 11:00.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
This has the possibility of getting some Nick Massetness to it
His fastballs, both a two-seamer and four-seamer, sit in the mid- to upper-90s. He has five other pitches, though he said his slider is his out pitch.
Watch out for Tanner Scheps and his seven plus pitches, ya’ll.
Also, curve or slider?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Both
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Mar 10, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
and
a plus plus eephus pitch I hear.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
On video games
I used to always create myself as a pitcher and throw a 100 mph fastball and a 52 mph Eephus. I didn’t need anything else.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 10, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
am i the only one who hates
that Longoria is teeing off against the Rangers in TBiA in the MLB 2K promo video?
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 10, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, but there is a silver lining...
We’ve shut out the Rays for at least 8 innings and his jack will just tie it up. We’ll still get last at-bat to put the thing away.
I’ve thought about this way too much.
by Mike the Grate on Mar 10, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
wow.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I can't get this video to play
on my computer for some reason.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
my connections tell me he has 8 pitches :)
4 seam, 2 seam, CB, slider, CU, gyro, eephus, screwball. That is just with his right arm.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
speaking of
what happened to that ambidextrous Yankee prospect?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't know he had a slider, that's hot
I was more referring to this
He started the B game Monday and showed a slider that ranged from 79 to 82 mph and produced two strikeouts in his first inning of work.
I thought it was the curve that came out to play in Monday’s game.
Picking nits, I know
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Did you pick Keynes for the economist?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Kinda sorta
One of those names that I’ve just had for so long that I feel stuck with it.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Well done, sir...
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Friedman > Keynes
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Yeah, I'm a Kinky fan
wait, what?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
that bar SUCKS
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
True Friedman maybe...
…but most people who quote him seem to have taken his theories too far. So while I, in general, find myself to support a lot of what Friedman says, I usually find myself in disagreement with the Friedman-‘following’ freshwater economists. Though, I can’t say I’m a huge fan of some of the conclusions that New Keynesians saltwater economists draw either.
Honestly, I’m interested to see what comes out of the newer Behavioral Finance school of thought as it’s the one that seems to make the most sense intuitively to me and they seem to do the best at accounting for recessions and depressions. Hopefully I’m not just being too reactionary.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
have yall seen the kaynes rap?
that was on NPR?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
no!
Searching…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
its awesome.
look it up
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
would be sweet
if salty is on to something with comparing feliz to scheppers
would have liked that injury chart to include updates on length of times out
My god, that's uncomfortable to see
I like the work on the card, but the pic you chose does make my elbow cry
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
If only that sort of thuggery weren't allowed in the MLB...
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I think he goofed up
And Photoshopped his arm on backwards.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
What the hell is happening to his arm????
and is an alien popping out of his chest?
hah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1exCwGiY0
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
too soon? too soon?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
oh
that wasn’t a joke. he really wanted to be in it (actually he wanted to write and star in the sequel)
feldman stabbed him in the back and agreed to be in it without him.
ah... i did not know that...
never was a fan of the movie anyway…
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
He was in one of the deleted endings.
They should have put it in the movie but I could see why the said no. He looked terrible.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Shocking...
who didn’t see that coming?
Actually, I’m amazed that he made it to 38.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I'm just surprised
He’s the Corey that died first. I totally had Corey Feldman in the Corey Death Pool sweepstakes.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by Lisa W on Mar 10, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Feldman took him down so he'd be the last Corey standing?
Wasn’t that the plot to one of their movies too?
The coreys
after seeing some of that show the two corey’s, i’m not real surprised that haim went first.
10-15 years ago I would have thought feldman for sure.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Feldman's a cunning little creature
I could’ve bet lots of money he would outlast the “pretty boy”
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
it's sad what became of the Coreys
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
x
@aandro Justin Smoak was supposed to DH today but has been scratched because of hip.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
i hate this crap
overreaction time!!!!!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
"overreaction time"
OK. Should we be concerned about his ability to stay healthy? :)
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
he's got the hip of an 80 year old woman
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
She must be pissed.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Ya know...
I want to see Scheppers and Feliz in the rotation as much as the next guy. However the idea of a Rangers ’pen with Fx2, BGL, Feliz, and Scheppers in September with the Rangers making a push for the playoffs is boneriffic.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
agreed.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 10, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Interesting to me that
Ogando seems to be getting a semi-regular turn in games. Going in, I kind of pictured him being there but not seen for the most part.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed, perhaps they really see something there.
Also, CJ & Feliz supposed to go 3 innings each.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Maybe it's because he's freakin' filthy. And hard. And told them the way it would be.
Kiker – he pitched last Saturday but no show since. Wonder if he’s been sent off to minor league camp since the farm arms reported in on Monday. Would be kinda telling about his org status if that was the case.
If he pitched on Saturday
Then normal 4 days rest would have him pitch again tomorrow (Thursday). i believe they are trying to keep him on a starters rotation since he figures to go to OKCs rotation to start the season
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Dumb of the Brewers to cut him
Without even a physical.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Doug Melvin, greatest GM in baseball
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
there is only one o beltre.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
what an awesome quote
“I’ve changed a lot of things about my life and thought a lot about what my priorities are,” Wilhelmsen, still only 26, said Monday on his first full day here. “One of them is I wasn’t sure I wanted to be a bartender for the rest of my life.”
After two failed drug tests for marijuana the following year, the Brewers forced Wilhelmsen into a 28-day treatment facility. Milwaukee also suspended him for the entire 2004 season, though Wilhelmsen says he’d told the team he was burned out after the rehab ordeal and wanted to take a year off.
…too bad worlds greatest GM doug melvin wasnt there for Jeremy Jeffress and his pot issues. …oh, wait …also this (title of article: “Working to weed out his demons”)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm down with getting Scheppers into the big league pen right now
A year of seasoning in the bullpen would help keep the mileage down on his arm while he acclimates to the bigs. Next year, once he’s a little more refined we can put him in the rotation, (whose spot he takes I don’t know…)
Next years rotation...
Feliz, Holland, Scheppers, Perez, Feldman. Damn. Now I realize that isn’t likely (Perez may be mid-2011, et al), but just the idea of that rotation is enough to give me goosebumps.
Then you still have guys like Hunter, Lewis, Harrison, and Hurley. The depth is just amazing.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
i'm having big doubts that one of those first 4 won't be here next year.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
You shut your whorish little mouth.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
haha... I'll be happy to be proven wrong..
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I'm gonna punch you in the taint for that!
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
oh no not another Boomer taint punch...
the last guy didn’t fare too well ..sadly :(
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
I want Feliz in there
but I don’t think you can go with a rotation that is all that young. I think Scheppers’ innings will still be limited and like you said, I’d like to see Perez in mid-11.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
where's Harden? I think that's the 2011 rotation for sure
but then I ask “where’s Hunter?” too
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
im just not sold on hunter.
long term that is
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'm the opposite
I think Hunter is going to become what we all thought Diamond would
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
i just want to see more than 20 starts
before we hand the #4 spot in the rotation over to a guy 5.3 k/9 and 2.6 bb/9 rate in the majors (vs 6.0 k/9 and 2.0 bb/9)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Guess what our # 1 (or # 2 depending on how Ron decides)
Starter on what is generally viewed as an above average rotation in the AL is throwing out?
5.3 k/9 and 3 bb/9 rate in his best year in the majors, which was a pretty damn good year
In addition, before September, Hunter had a 2 month run of 6 k/9 and while he had a 2.8 bb/9, he held batters to only 7.4 hits/9 – I’d say he was VERY effective. Who’s to say he will improve on those numbers from his rookie campaign or decline? I tend to be optimistic and think he can and will improve. But you’re right, before we anoint, let’s let it all play out.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
hey im not ready to throw the #2 spot to feldman either
hell, do we HAVE a starter with less than a few question marks surrounding them? lol
holland, feldman, lewis, hunter, etc etc etc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Those stats compare
favorably to all three of Palmer’s CYA years….
Maybe the stats don’t tell you everything.
In vino, veritas
This isn't 1973.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
jim palmer Cy Young years:
1973: 4.8 k/9, 3.4 bb/9, 156 era+, 37 starts, 296 IP, 1.14 whip, 6.8 h/9, .5 hr/9, 1.4 k/bb
1975: 5.4 k/9, 2.2 bb/9, 169 era+, 38 starts, 323 IP, 1.03 whip, 7.0 h/9, .6 hr/9, 2.41 k/bb
1976: 4.5 k/9, 2.4 bb/9, 130 era+, 40 starts, 315 IP, 7.3 h/9, .6 hr/9, 1.89 k/bb
tommy hunter career:
22 starts, 123 IP
5.3 k/9, 2.6 bb/9, 89 era+, 1.398 whip, 10.0 h/9, 1.2 hr/9, 2.03 k/bb
< sarcasm>
of course, they are equal! clearly nothing has changed between the mid 70s and 2010…
< /sarcasm>
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
My point was not
that Hunter = Palmer… My point is that that particular stat is over rated. k/9 doesn’t tell you that much about a pitcher, particularly a 3 or 4 that projects to be a LAIE or maybe slightly better. Being able to K somebody when you need to is important. Having seven pitch innings is more important if your job is to eat innings.
In vino, veritas
your comparing
statistics 25 years apart
let me say that again. TWENTY FIVE YEARS apart
i bet if someone like adam dunn would have been around 40 years ago we would look at his career differently. what about someone like greg maddux and if he had pitched in the 50s
….your point is fucking stupid.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
ok your USE of palmer
in your point is fucking stupid
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
Maddux would have
a 132 ERA+ no matter when he pitched. The game hasn’t changed that much. A guy like Adam Dunn was around then, Dave Kingman. Oh, and it’s 35 years.
In vino, veritas
Kingman and Dunn are alike?
Dunn has a career 17% walk rate. Kingman’s was 8%. Dunn’s on base avg. is .389, Kingman’s was .302.
Dunn hits for higher average, walks twice as much and has more power than Kingman had. How are they alike other than striking out a lot?
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Harden...
wins the CY Young this year and helps carry the Rangers to the WS.
Then he takes off in FA.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
you have to think the chances of Scheppers making a big league appearance
this year are skyrocketing
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Chuck Greenberg on with Norm in 5 minutes
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
at 11:35
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
OMG, he didn't specify an arbitrary payroll number!
And what is he doing in Surprise, he should be negotiating a new stadium deal with the City of Dallas?!?!?!
/Rangers100
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I'm going to taint punch Rangers100
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
and then do this for a few minutes...
at least til he poops himself.
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
taint worth it
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
I thought it was a "taint slap?"
although I guess you slap the ladies, punch the dudes
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Do ladies have taints?
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 10, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone has a taint
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Defined:
the perineum – the area betwwen the genitals and anus, male or female, although the term is said to orginate from the saying “It ain’t pu$$y and t’aint ass…”
Used in a sentence: A hairy taint is a blivet hazard
This is from Urban Dictionary, the 3rd definition; the first 2 refer to how you probably have heard it; I have always viewed it as the 3rd
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent, thanks for the follow up Walter
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 10, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Lenny Dykstra, Head Case
A woman who briefly worked for Lenny Dykstra charges that the former baseball star groped her breasts and tried to push her down on a bed in his Los Angeles mansion after the ex-athlete solicited a “blow job,” according to a federal court filing.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0310101dykstra1.html?link=rssfeed
by GregoryM on Mar 10, 2010 8:45 PM CST reply actions
I think she's just trying to extort some stock tips out of him
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 8:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Need to have a picture of her
to know whether we need to take this seriously, according to the Miles Test.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
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