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Another loss for the Rangers yesterday, and Evan Grant has a game report up at the DMN blog


Jesse Sanchez has a story about C.J. Wilson's outing yesterday, with Ron Washington saying Wilson did a good job as he vies for a spot in the Opening Day rotation.

Ben Rogers thinks that it is now a two man competition for the 5th starter job, with Wilson battling Matt Harrison to see he gets the job.  I still believe that Brandon McCarthy will open the season in the rotation, rather than Wilson or Harrison.

Anthony Andro has a Q&A with Chuck Greenberg, who responds to reports about problems and delays in the sales process by saying that everything is going "smoothly."

Andro also has an update on Eric Hurley's progress, as he works to return from rotator cuff surgery, and Jarrod Saltalamacchia's status.

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Sale issues

This all just sounds like posturing, hemming and hawing to me. The sale will get done. It might not get done by opening day, but it will get done.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Which is all that really matters.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

yep

this is very important, and then following that is the trade deadline

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Mmm, queso

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

great

now I want nachos at 9:40 in the morning

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I know, right?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, I think the most significant thing about these potential delays

is that it might inhibit the team’s ability to add payroll with a trade acquisition if it goes on long enough. Even if the sale goes through on opening day I don’t imagine the coffers would be immediately open. Best case scenario is for the sale to close by about opening day, and for the team to get off to a hot start to help attendance and cash flow.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

OT - Something to feel good about.

Baseball Musings last year projected the Rangers to score 767 runs the year after they scored 901 runs (Rangers scored 784 runs) so I give them some credit.

This year they project the Rangers to score 867 runs. I like that and it makes me feel better about this year.

http://baseballmusings.com/?p=47977

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

Saw that yesterday, got a lukewarm fuzzy

Like the win total projections, this just says that if each player meets his most probable mark, the offense is much better than last year. 2009 was an outlier for the offense in many ways, and was probably pretty nearly a best case scenario for run prevention with the talent on hand.

The offense should almost certainly be better this year, not sure about the run prevention.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I still think this

is one of the least projectable teams that I recall. Due to injury, youth, or other factors, there is a good 1/3 of the team I have no feel for how they will do.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Mar 11, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it all comes down to the production they get out of 1B.

You can live with poor offense in the AL at SS & C if everybody else is at or above average.

867 runs scored and 780 runs allowed projects to 85-77.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Hamilton plays a huge part in that too

A rebound season from him will go a long way in helping this offense rebound

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Mar 11, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Vlad

My confidence is waining on Vlad. He has absolutely no plate patience. I don’t think he’ll be helping himself at all this year…

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Vlad

He do what he do and you live with it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

And how is that different from his entire career?

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 11, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

That is not different when comparing that to his career

However, IIRC hitters who lack professional hitting skills such as pitch selection, pitch recognition, etc. tend to not age very well.

Vlad has been good enough that I can reasonably expect him to continue performing, however I have an elevated level of concern.

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm the opposite

I think Vladdy’s gonna be healthy and perform well. He swings at everything – this board better get used to it.

by shroomer on Mar 11, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

that approach has produced some of the most maddening home runs i can remember being hit off Ranger pitchers

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

If he's healthy, I don't care if he swings at everything.

So much of what he does depends on bat speed, so as long as he can turn on everything, I don’t care if he rarely takes a pitch.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

And we haven't heard anything negative about Vlad's bat speed so far

Of course, that may be because writers are terrified of Vlad, and with good reason

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

It is also still early

The season will take a bit of a toll on him. Hopefully he gets plenty of rest to keep him going. And by rest I mean not playing him in the OF #listentowhatIsayRonWashington

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Right

You have to assume he’s all the way back from the torn pectoral… I think the biggest enemy of his bat speed is age (and with that, an increased risk of injury and decline) at this point.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you, FP

If he’s returned to his bat speed of pre-2009, Vlad can swing at intentional walks for all I care.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

In fact, I'd like to see the Angels try an IBB and Vlad rope a double off of it

That might cause Scioscia to bawl like a baby in the dugout.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I really want to see Scioscia cry.

What is with the television station’s fascination with going to ULTRA CLOSEUPS of that doucher’s doucheface? I can’t stand his “I can’t believe you called that guy out/called it a strike” face. Worse than Tom Coughlin.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

That would be the greatest gif in LSB history

I picture a slow start: quivering lip, slight reddening of the cheeks, eyes slowly fill with water until the puddles overflow their fatty containers which then turns into a full on, head to the sky questioning why, open mouthed, snot dripping wail.

But that’s just me…

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JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Concur

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Because he is currently

one of the best managers in baseball?

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Mar 11, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Because he's a smug asshole.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 11, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Because he manages the Angels

and we hate them.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey, if The Sciosc is worried about Vladdy

The buffet is worried about The Sciosc.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Why in god's name

would you expect him to change his approach at this point in his career? Especially on this team full of free swingers.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Mar 11, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Expectations

I won’t speak on that general of terms.

My expectations going in were that his numbers would improve on what he put up last year. I figured this year he would be healthier and be able to improve on last year’s “down year”.

I’m starting to feel like those expectations might be a little lofty and perhaps even putting up last year’s number isn’t as likely as I thought it was.

Last year saw a significant drop-off in performance, from .886 OPS to .794 OPS, seeing a signficant reduction in OBP and SLG. I was hoping he’d get back into the mid-.800’s again, hopefully with at least a .350 OBP which he’d basically done his ENTIRE career up until last season. Now I’m not so confident.

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Hm.

I feel like that was a little more general than what you didn’t answer, but okay. I don’t think him improving is a stretch at all.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Improvement

What are the reasons you can see improvement?

He’s an aging hitter with bad knees who has had significant declines in performance the last two years. People who have bad plate discipline tend to not age well. Vlad is not showing any adjustments from his previous approach and fits the bill as an aging, oft-injured declining player. This year’s spring training approach, thus-far, isn’t showing me anything that suggests he’s going to improve. Thus, my concern.

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Improving over last year's totals?

Well, here are two big reasons: 1) projections (admittedly, Vlad is unique) and 2) how well he played after he got healthy last year.

Of course he doesn’t have a skill set that ages well. It’s not like I’m seeing him as any more than like a .370 wOBA/2 WAR player at best. I’ll take more like .350-60 with around 500 plate appearances and a 1-1.5 WAR.

That’s still an improvement over last year, though.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Our LF's in 2009

went 28/89 with an .806 OPS last year.

I’m not worried about that happening this year between Hamilton & Murphy.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh...

…that’s fine that they do ok compared to other LF, but you need your best hitters to hit like elite hitters. Or someone to step up and take their place, I s’pose.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Hamilton, Vladdy

Salty, CD, Big Dick Harden, Cruz, McCarthy, Lewis, Holland, …

I just don’t have a good feel for how any of them do. I could see any of the names I listed having career years, and I can see any of them falling flat on their face. Between the injury prone on this team and the youth on this team, it just doesn’t seem all that projectable.

I’d be unsurprised to see first or last place from this team

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Mar 11, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

or anywhere in between

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Hamilton will be fine, if healthy. So will Cruz.

Vlad scares me because he was a franchise icon to the Angels (maybe their 2nd most important player ever), they’re a big market team, they replaced him with a player (Matsui) who is older and has been hurt a lot recently. Nobody knows Vlad better than the Halos and they not only let him walk, but they let him walk to a team they’re competing with in the division.

Salty just flat-out sucks as a hitter and needs to be platooned.
CD is useless until he starts taking walks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

platooned with an even suckier hitter?

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Re-signing Vlad

would have cost more than signing Matsui, so it’s not a straight comparison. If you’ve got a guy like Vladdy on your team you can’t just offer him a token contract. Or, you could, but then he’d just decline and leave anyway.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Point being

that nobody knew Vlad better than the Angels and they gladly let him walk to Texas.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

How do you know they "gladly" let him walk?

Could be that they wanted him but Texas offered a bigger role and more money?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 11, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Given how early they signed Matsui

I think ‘let him walk’ is a decent description.

That said, the Yankees knew Matsui better than anyone, and the let him walk to one of their main competitors for the AL. What does that say about Matsui?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

OMG, they're all walking

What is this, Stonebriar Mall?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree they let him walk

I just don’t agree with the reason why. No question that Vlad is on the steep backside of his career. However, it is apparent by the way he ended last year that he can still hit. With Abreu and Hunter, the lineup would be way too old. Also, using JW’s “logic,” Figgins must be done too.

He is too old and would have cost too much moola. EOM

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by Parman on Mar 11, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I am guessing the Yankees knew they had enough

34+ years old players on the team with ARod & Jeter which is why they let Matsui & Damon go.

You’re playing with fire if you have too many players that old on your team that you depend on for production.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

sometimes it's just time for an organization and a player to move on

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

sometimes, people just fall out of love

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

sometimes, iorange55 makes dumb fanshots

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

sometimes, rally tacos taste good

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

mmm

tacos for lunch sounds pretty f’in good.

but we did taco talk a few days ago, so I won’t go into my love for lengua

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, that happens more than just "sometimes"

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 11, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

No, point being

that to keep him the Angels would have had to offer more, or leave him hanging long enough in the offseason for his price to come down and piss him off. Better just to move on in a situation like that. I’m sure they figured he was no longer worth an 8 figure salary.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe they let him walk

because their newer star player kept calling him an imposter

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 11, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree completly with that. The only thing that keeps me tilted to the positive side

is the fact that we have decent backup plans for pretty much every name on that list. The only exception where we don’t have a nice neat plan if failure strikes is catcher. 1B could be one, but I think Smoak is a quality back up plan.

Somehow I feel the pitching can find a way, even if Harden, Holland, Lewis, B-Mac don’t work out. And the odds of all of them sucking is pretty low right? The only other place where an injury would cause a significant drop off would be to Elvis or Ian. If we lost either of those two for longer then a month, we would be hosed with who ever they bring in to help.

All in all I’m with you on the first or last scenarios, but my lean is closer to second.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Hamilton or Cruz would be Murphy and Moreland.

A step down for sure, but not huge. There’s also Gentry.

For Vlad you also have Smoak who can DH. Smoak would also be the Young back up, with CD over to thrid and Smoak at first.

Again, only decent backup plans for worst case scenarios. We have a pretty deep pitching farm that could net us a replacement OF if needed as well.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You *are* optimistic.

I can see the argument that the Rangers have some promising prospects who could, in best-case scenarios, keep them in contention if a big-league fixture gets hurt (or sucks) for an extended amount of time ~ but I actually think that positional depth is a big issue this season. In any event, the uncertainty surrounding all of the backups you list doesn’t really seem to increase the team’s projectability…

by Snark on Mar 11, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I am usually an optimist, I'll concede wholeheartedly. But think about it.

We have a100% quality 4th outfielder. We have a sexy ass bat down in AAA just waiting to come up and either DH or 1B it for us. And to AJM, I think Moreland would be a pretty big step down for Cruz, but I think he’ll be close for Hamilton. 100% Hamilton is >>>>>>>>> 100% Moreland, but I think we can all agree that Hamilton being 100% would be a huge surprise. So I think overall Moreland’s numbers could compare to an in and out Hamilton.

I wasn’t making a case for projecting the Rangers to be easier to project. Quite the opposite, I was agreeing with Cahill about having no idea what to expect from this team or where to put them. They could be 68 game winners or 98 game winners. My point was that I lean more towards the higher end a bit because of the better quality depth that the Rangers have.

Finally, I think you’re right about the position players being our biggest weakness right now. But I am reasonably realistic that we have the pitching and farm depth to help out if we need a position player. Teams always seem to be wanting pitching at the trade deadline, not hitters. We would be in a nice position come July if we did need a bat or position player.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

68? I find that hard to believe

You’d have to have injuries to Harden, Hamilton, Young, Kinsler, Cruz, McCarthy (given), Frank^2, Salty, Vlad, and at least one more guy who wasn’t hurt last year. You’d have to have an implosion by Davis, and ineffectiveness by Feldman, Holland, Elvis, and Borbon. And it would all have to happen early enough for the team to believe that its out of it, fire Wash, and go into the trade deadline as sellers, and sell off Hamilton, Young, Harden, Feldman, Vlad, Cruz, etc….. (though Young is probably still untradeable.)

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Mar 12, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I find 68 about as easy to hit as 98 though.

I’m just saying, that would be the far extreme of spectrums. I give 68 and 98 about a 1 percent chance of happening, but it could with the volatility of this team.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 12, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that...

…Moreland represents a pretty huge step down from Hamilton or Cruz.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 11, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

AJM

Which formula are you using? I came up with a win % of .526.

Runs scored x 1.83 / Runs scored x 1.83 + Runs allowed x 1.83.

Did I mess it up?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I was shocked the record was that low (given that they'd be scoring 80 more runs and giving up only 40 more than last year)

but baseballreference.com has the formula using 1.83.

If it’s squared so be it but I’d venture the more accurate win total would be what I’ve been saying all along…somewhere between 85-89 wins.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Man,

I love it when the saber geeks get to talking about some arcane formula. It reminds me why I love to watch bball without all the geeky stats

by BEW on Mar 11, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I hear you...because OBP is still the most important stat to me but Pythag Theorem is pretty good

when trying to figure out number of wins.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think much about stats when actually watching the games,

At least not any more than “we need to get a run here; fortunately, we’ve got some good hitters coming up,” but without stats there’d be a whole lot less to talk about between games/seasons…

And honestly, a lot of formulas for “traditional” stats are pretty arcane themselves. People are just familiar with them and used to them. For instance, think about the types of plate appearances that are left out of batting average and on base percentage because whoever came up with them decided the stats would be better that way.

by Closure GT on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Was it KLaw or Goldstein who said

that if you use 6th grade level math, you’re smart, but using 9th grade level math is dumb and geeky?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that was Law.

Even sounds like him. I’ve said before, but somehow Keith Law is able to be a douche without me hating him. Dave Cameron does the same thing and I want to punch him in the face. KLaw does it and I Like his status.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Same here.

I don’t think there’s anyone who watches the game while thinking about how it affects any more than mundane counting stats. I don’t think sabermetrics affect actually watching the game in any way whatsoever.

Also, everything else you said.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It will not all come down to one position.

The division may come down to that, but not the W/L totals by any large degree. I seriously doubt Smoak/Davis can amount for more than about a five win differential, at most. More likely a game or two (somewhere between replacement-level and average).

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Good stuff Josey, thanks for posting that

That is encouraging.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually mentioned this back when Kinsler talked about the line up on the radio.
Washington pretty much nails the lineup. The LAT agrees with him on slots one, five eight and nine, and uses the same players in 2-3-4 and 6-7, just shifted.

I was impressed that Wash’s proposed line-up made sense from a couple different angles. I would probably like Kins a spot lower so he could steal bases in front of the weaker hitters, but that’s it.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

McCarthy

If he doesn’t make the rotation it’s bullpen, correct?

Not that it makes much sense to send him to AAA, but he’s out of options, right?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Mar 11, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

He has an option

He technically has to be run through waivers because of his service time, but from what we’ve been told him getting claimed really shouldn’t be a concern.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know that

the consensus is that it wouldn’t be a concern. If he looks like a nice option to another team, particularly a rival of Texas’ who wouldn’t mind inconveniencing them roster-wise, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t go ahead and block it. Of course the worse he is, the less useful he’ll seem for the money, and the more likely that no one messes with them trying to get him down.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 11, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I can’t imagine that Seattle or Oakland wouldn’t see McCarthy as a nice free talent grab.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 11, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Anyone with room on the 25 man roster would find a place for him.

I continue to be baffled by the fact that people seem to think he won’t get claimed.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know if it is the bullpen

I don’t know if they have room for him out there, unless they cut Nippert loose. Evan Grant (I think) suggested that McCarthy could be the long man and Nippert move to a middle relief role, but I don’t think they’d do that.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 11, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Prolly Snyder

Unless they work out a trade.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

True

Anyone read/heard anything about his stuff thus far?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks Joe Morgan

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by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Hi-Oh!

The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ

by NYTXFAN on Mar 11, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Oliver isn't good enough for you?

 ; )

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

might also depend on how Feliz pitches the

rest of ST. If his secondary pitches don’t come around they may opt to send him to AAA and put BMac in the pen.

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP

by RangerMad on Mar 11, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Some Keith Law snippets from yesterday's game

On Feliz:

…He threw a few of the best curveballs I’ve ever seen from him, and while it was inconsistent, it’s reassuring to see that he has the ability to snap off a breaking ball like the best ones he showed on Wednesday, with tight rotation and very late downward break. Feliz deserved a better fate in this game;…

On Ogando:


The Texas Rangers waited five years for right-hander Alexi Ogando to receive a valid work visa that would allow him to resume his minor-league career — and now I can see why. Right-handers who throw 93-96 with a chance for two above-average secondary pitches are worth that kind of wait… …given his age and stuff he could move quickly through the system if his command matches his years rather than his experience.

Moreland:

…He showed good plate coverage on Wednesday and made a key adjustment from his first at bat against a left-handed pitcher to his second one. He may just be a valuable trade piece for Texas this summer when they’re fighting for the division title.

More at his blog

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2010 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

KLaw doesn't hate everybody

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm shocked

Shocked I tell you!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Moreland

It’s good to hear such positive reports from so many on him. It helps his trade value.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

it would also help his trade value

if he stopped wearing lead filled shoes. :)

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP

by RangerMad on Mar 11, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

SHHHH... We're trying to sweep that under the rug so the other teams don't know about it.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

It's nice..

To have too many quality pitchers trying to make the rotation. It’s seems like a good problem to have. The same goes for having to find playing time for a bunch of good young players. It’s a good day to be a Rangers fan.

by Big50 on Mar 11, 2010 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

Return of the stache?

This article suggests that Vazquez could get traded/released by the end of ST.
He’d be fine as a utility option again.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 11, 2010 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

I sure hope Max is on our bench.

Another 1 for 2 in late innings yesterday.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

What about Scott Sheldon

Is he around? I hear he can play short…

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Yah, he can at least take a walk and play SS

More than you can say for our other UTL options.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

It wouldn't be the worst option

Ramonstache or Lugo, who would be the better pickup?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Lugo

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Greatness!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I kinda want Ramon back...

Just so I can have a mulligan on the usage of this:

I found that literally the day after the 2008 season ended, and was totally bummed I never had the chance to use it.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

lolwut at that article
The Texas Rangers, Vazquez’s previous team, are looking for a second baseman.

Kinsler throws his helmet down, puts, complains that there’s not enough fans in the stands, and then plays 150 games just to spite this article.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, no one obsesses over the Pirates

And obviously ‘puts’ in my main post should read ‘pouts’, but that’s not germane to the conversation and the goddang Germans got nothing to do with it

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn, sucks that i ruined that

DShep needs to gif that one up

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

WTF? Dejan Kovacevic is better than that

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Vazquez

no thanks.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Why not?

You’d rather have Arias out there?

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 11, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't wait until Arias is a thing of the past

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

No, but I think they can do better

He’s not likely to hit well enough to overcome his terrible defense. Why would you want a below average bat and a bad glove for a utility guy?

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Chemistry. Vet'ran. 'Stache.

In that order.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Order of

things that don’t add up to enough to overcome his poor play?

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

h, you asked we WE would want him

I thought you were asking why Wash would want him

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Another thing

He also makes our bench awfully left-handed.

So yah, the more I think about this the less I like it.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, he'd be an upgrade over anything they have internally

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 11, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're going to go with some uninspiring defense

just use Matt Brown and/or German.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Alright

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 11, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Who has done more to earn that fifth spot than Harrison?

He’s rehabbed like a sumbitch, gotten in great shape, putting up mid-90’s stuff

Obviously, Feliz and CJ have been erratic and B-Mac’s been unimpressive (and he’s sitting there with an option…) Does Harry have options remaining too? I just think he’s shown the most so far this year

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 9:56 AM CST reply actions  

agree

Surprises me to hear CJ in the rotation talk after a pretty so so outing yesterday.

by jcAustin on Mar 11, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you, I don't particularly understand Adam's take on the competitors

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Harrison has options and doesn't need to go through waivers

If you are talking about who has earned it, then it is clearly BMac

If you are talking about seniority, then it is clearly BMac

The only case you could make for Harrison is that he just might be the better pitcher, which is still a good case. But all that “great shape, sumbitch” stuff doesn’t favor BMac at all. And he hasn’t been unimpressive.

by ab03 on Mar 11, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm confused...

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Thinking of the heat this bullpen could generate

If Beltre and or Ogando turn out to be the real deal, and Schep stays in one piece, we could have 4 legitimate high 90’s arms to toss out there.

Somewhere John Hart just came in his evil, despicable, murderworthy pants.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

The thought of that 'pen is sickeningly awesome

Especially when you consider that it could also include DOD sidearming them to death.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Add in...

…Frankie with upper 90s and CJ with upper 90s lefty…. I’m so happy I could just run out and punch a man in the face.

Darren Oliver. Sigh.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you kidding? Throwing Oliver out there for 3 batters would totally mess the oppo up.

There’s no way they could wait on his 79 mph cheeze after facing 95+ the whole game from Harden and then Feliz. Oliver would wreck.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I have an irrational Darren Oliver hatred.

Like, I hate the fucker. Group him in with Dean Palmer, Benji Gil, Richard Hidalgo…

He may sway me a little this year.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

how the hell do you hate Dean Palmer?

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I am waiting for this answer as well...

Hildalgo and Gil, sure. But Dean? Did he hit your kid, or worse, your dog?

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Roger Pavlik and Matt Whiteside were my guys

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Andruw Jones

still makes my blood pressure spike

by BEW on Mar 11, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Likewise

Sammy Sosa too.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

fair enough

just baffled. Deano might be in my top five childhood favorites…

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

No idea if the stats support this....

….but I always got the impression (eyetest) that his stats were really hollow. When he was needed to score a RISP, he would K or GIDP or something. He essentially frustated the hell out of me.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

DIdn't really worry about that stuff when I was 10

he was like, our best player, as far as I was concerned

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Same here.

I liked Palmer but I obsessed over Ryan. Ryan I’m able to separate his overratedness (at least he’s still legendary) from my love of him. Palmer I’m not.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Dean Palmer had a lot of gack in him

and sure seemed to pile on the stats when it didn’t matter…kind of like a Steve Buechele on roids.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, exactly my impression of him.

When you look at the stats, they seem good, but in close situations, or something (god forbid someone says clutch), he sucked.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Pencil me in on the "F Dean Palmer" list...

Game 2, 1996 playoffs.. Dean’s shitty throw cost us the game.

by cmkelly29 on Mar 11, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

You guys are ruining my childhood memories.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Find a happy place.

"We pitched, we caught the ball, we ran the bases, we had good days where we out-fundamentalized the other team." - Ronald Washington

by Pocket Ninja on Mar 11, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I fell for Dean Palmer

when he was called “B. Hickock” on Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball for SNES. He was the one person I checked box scores for living out here in California. I saw him hit a home run at Dodger Stadium (the day after Bobby Witt hit one). And now FuturePants has taken it all away.

His defamation is apparently what it’s taken to get me to stop lurking and post for the first time. Thanks a lot.

by jimmyarctic on Mar 11, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice FP.

Crushing the heart and souls of so many. You do not understand the power of your words…

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the DOD reference

How I love that sidearming fool. Plus, the first time he came into a game and introduced himself to the infielders is one of my all time favorite moments from last year

by BEW on Mar 11, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, when we look back at this Rangers dynasty a few years down the road, we should remember that joyous moment

Our sidearming middle reliever, so integral to the team’s success for many years, shows up in the middle of extra innings to the ballpark, gets summoned to the mound, introduces himself to the infielders, and proceeds to give up the game-winning hit while wearing someone else’s jersey.

You can’t make that up.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Disney Movie?

Can we get Jeff Bridges to play Darrin O’Day (or do we need an Irish Man. Ian Holms? ) Gotta get Wesley Snipes to play Ron Washington

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Mar 11, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

As long as we get Ryan Bingham to compose the song on this too, I'm good with Bridges

He could definitely pull off the DOD stubbly beard.

Snipes as Warsh.
Eddie Guardado as JD.
Colin Farrell as Chris Davis.
Jamie Foxx as Neftali Feliz.
Bingham could also play the role of CJ Wilson.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't remember where I saw it...

….but there was a video interview with Salty about that, and he said he walks up, introduces himself, and says, “Ok man, what do you throw?” They all laugh and Salty says, “But seriously. What do you throw?”

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention Ceej/Harry/Ray, as well

But those guys are way less interesting

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

not to mention Strop and Gutierrez

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

And people tell KG that the Venezuelan Lightning will probably get a look at some point in '10

Holy crap, let’s package some of our excess fireballers for Albert Pujols or something.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

oooo Pujols, do I smell a TR mailbag question coming on?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe you just smell TR

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Rest home smell?

Eeewww.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I might devise one of those, in the spirit of the FJM fans baiting Joe Morgan during his chats
So, TR, the Rangers have lots of extra pitching, but need hitting. LaRussa and Dave Duncan love good pitchers. What if we packaged Davis with Ray, Gutierrez, and Strop for Pujols? Maybe they could throw in Shelby Miller to sweeten the pot on their end. That would work wouldn’t it?

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't see anything wrong with that trade

St. Louis should jump on that

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

We need to hold out wor Wainwright too

Maybe if we threw in Arias, because he’s a guy that would be good in the NL

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

for what? cheeseburgers?

Think we could hold out and get Whataburger or just settle for some quaterpounders with cheese?

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It's like the trade offer from the guy who doesn't know how to play fantasy baseball

You reject his crappy trade offer so he adds like three more mediocre players to the deal on the premise that “more players = better deal.”

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

And this would also end the 40-pocalypse.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

If it really is between Harrison and CJ, then I gotta think Harrison wins

Unless there’s a really really strong push from one of the higher ups to make CJ a starter (but it still makes no sense to me).

by ab03 on Mar 11, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

Ok

Mark my words

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I always like taking things literally

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Mar 11, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Go fuck yourself.

: )

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

this is literally funny

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

It sure seemed like it was Nolan making that push for CJ

but I just don’t see it working out with his history and the results from this spring (albeit an extremely SSS)

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

OT Merlin Olsen dead

http://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/local/87340747.html

I went to the Rams / Lions season ending game in ’72 and waited outside the Coliseum for several Rams to give me an autograph.

Several Rams cooperated but Merlin Olsen waved me off.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

that cancer sure showed him

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Karma

it’s what’s for dinner.

"We pitched, we caught the ball, we ran the bases, we had good days where we out-fundamentalized the other team." - Ronald Washington

by Pocket Ninja on Mar 11, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Karma is pretty good with

a little dash of tabasco and some A1

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Mar 11, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoah.

One of my favorite players I never actually got to watch.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

FWIW - per Jason Cole's new stuff ...

Former UTA SS Tim Steggall [Rangers pitching prospect] sez that Michael Main routinely beats him in hard-fungo fielding drills in minor league camp. Sounds like Main’s healthy again – and still very athletic.

Also, Neil Ramirez sez he lived, breathed and ate baseball in Surprise for nearly all of the off-season. Worked out like a madman and roomed with Derek Holland, which taught him how big-leaguers go about their business. Sez he’s interested in rooming with Dirkatron in NC when he gets assigned to Hickory in order to further his horsehide/sex-crime education.

by shroomer on Mar 11, 2010 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

Ramirez rooming with dirkatron

two guys with very little control, bad situation.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

But good command ;)

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by Parman on Mar 11, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Cahill is right.

You just can’t put any sort of number on this team. Way too many questions.

ST thus far has left me feeling a bit pessimistic. Knee-jerk?

by cmkelly29 on Mar 11, 2010 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

with the initially negative reports of Harden

the dings players have already gotten, and the poor offensive showing thus far, you’ve got reason to be concerned. Looooong way to go, though.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I may be an optimist

but I really like some of the revelations so far. I think there is a pretty good chance we field a legit, five deep rotation coming out of the gate. So far, all of Harden, Feldman, Lewis, Hunter and Harrison have looked good. In the bullpen, we’ve seen the Grooms of Doom, along with Ray , Oliver and Scheppers, look strong in their debuts, so we could actually have a really great pitching staff this year.

On the offensive side, we all know there are question marks. But everyone seems healthy and focused. If anything, because of the pitchers, I’ve seen my expectations tick up a bit during these first few weeks.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Mar 11, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm liking this team's attitude

Not just the “We’re going to win this season” attitude, but guys like Kinsler and Hamilton really seem to get what their problems were last season and what they need to do to fix them. If they can work out the kinks now during ST, watch out for them this season.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 11, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Leitch Article

This is part of a running series on Deadspin where Leitch writes a short column about each MLB team.

This article is mostly fluff, focusing mostly on Mike Maddux and his affect on the pitching staff. It has this little nest egg in it too.

Whatever it is: Mike Maddux, no longer Roger Clinton, has it figured out. It makes Texas a more dangerous team, and considerably more fun to watch. /blockquote>

by Heebs on Mar 11, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

No substance, but entertaining.

I particularly liked his speculation as to what pitching coaches say to the player:

Feelin’ good out there? Yep. Can you get this guy? Yep. All right. Don’t walk him. Throw strikes. Got it.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I dunno, I found this insightful:
Maybe the job of pitching coach is such a fungible, mercurial one that someone who shows up and treats it like an actual job, with charts and graphs and tendencies and scary Excel documents, really can make a difference.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a point I like

It’s akin to the saber revolution in front offices. You had the Wayne Krivskys of the world dealing in how they feel about a player based on his “look” or whatever, so when you actually inject some facts and research into the process you can take a giant leap forward in a hurry.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Someone just got on someone's shit list
Rangers general manager Jon Daniels, who has turned the franchise around before his 33rd birthday

Probably a little too much cred, Leitch, but a nice thing to say

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Leitch is a washed up hack who couldn't write his way out of a children's book.

/Josey

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

The favorite son of LSB

really needs a good 2010.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

So do I Josey, so do I.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I particularly enjoyed this line:
I enjoyed the lazy trope that the Rangers’ pitching improvements last season were due to team president (and Ron Paul supporter) Nolan Ryan, as if Scott Feldman said, “Well, that scary guy who shows up in cowboy boots every couple of weeks used to throw 300 innings a year, so I guess I’ll try for 189. Time to stop being such a puss.” Maddux — and of course the dramatically improved defense — was the maestro of the Rangers’ pitching resurgence.

Pretty good summation of my feelings.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Mar 11, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Of course, he misses the point that Maddux would not be here but for Nolan

So while Nolan didn’t train the pitchers himself, he still deserves plenty of credit for oversight of the turnaround.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Gagree.

But the notion that the pitchers performed better because Nolan willed it so is, as Leitch puts it, a “lazy trope.”

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Mar 11, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, much like many other theories propagated by the columnist species

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

You know

I think there’s something to the fact that there’s someone putting on high expectations that could, potentially, lead to performance increases- but there’s no real way to measure that, so we kinda need to scoff at it.

It is a lazy trope, that much I agree with- but that doesn’t mean that there can’t be a kernel of truth in it somewhere

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That I would agree with

It’s impossible to quantify, for sure, and the most serious LSB saberheads will scoff at the notion, but setting higher expectations from above helps. I don’t care whether it’s baseball, high school, your job, or raising your kids, if the people in charge have higher expectations and push those beneath them to achieve, there’s a good chance that it will positively impact the results.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Or collapse under the weight of the pressure...

…or have to deal with dumb LSB posters who think that you should be traded because your poor ERA despite good peripherals and a short-tracked development path due to higher expectations and pushing to achieve.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't argue against that.

I just reject the correlation-causation of Nolan coming here as the main culprit of improved pitching performance.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Mar 11, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though there were no major pitching

acquisitions made before 2009?

Was the improved pitching performance on one of the back pages of the vaunted “5 Step Plan” that was so famously presented by JD to Tom Hicks in May 2007?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though there were no major pitching

acquisitions made before 2009?

Was the improved pitching performance on one of the back pages of the vaunted “5 Step Plan” that was so famously presented by JD to Tom Hicks in May 2007?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, it's part of the plan

to have young pitchers begin to contribute and take a step forward. It is part of the plan to improve defense, Daniels has been targeting up the middle guys since he got the job.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though there were no major pitching

acquisitions made before 2009?

Was the improved pitching performance on one of the back pages of the vaunted “5 Step Plan” that was so famously presented by JD to Tom Hicks in May 2007?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

We got the point the second time

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

So nice, he had to post it thrice.

The improved pitching was a very large result of a significantly improved defense and the tutelage of Mike Maddux, in my estimation.

To say that Scott Feldman pitched better because Nolan Ryan was looking over his shoulder is pretty ludicrous.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Mar 11, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

We covered this not too long ago

but it is beyond ludicrous to think the defense alone was responsible for This Thing giving up 227 less runs.

Simply put, we had a new pitching coach (thank you, Nolan), our pitchers were healthier, walked fewer people and our starters went deeper into games which made life easier for the bullpen.

The defense definitely helped but they were better in part because the pitchers in front of them were throwing a lot more strikes.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Which has to do with Nolan Ryan...how?

Because he hired Mike Maddux? I completely agree.

Because he was looking over their shoulders? Laughable.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Mar 11, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't say he was looking over their shoulder.

He did take whatever philosophy JD had for pitchers in this organization and throw it out the window.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yet his magic dust worked on pitchers acquired by JD

So, how does that work?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

How did those pitchers acquired by JD

do in 2008?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Given that the key ones

were either in the minors or still learning to be a starter in front of MY, Vazquez, and a somewhat shittier Kinsler- shittier.

Better question, why didn’t he use the magic dust in ’08?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Nolan

observed, evaluated and suggested in 2008.

Only big change being the pitching coaches at the end of July that JD had in place.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

So, he had the magic dust, but chose not to use it

Dang, sure would have been nice to have that magic dust sprinkled on that ’08 staff- because if he had used the magic dust with that ’08 offense, we could have gone places.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Would have been nice given the bag

of crap for a pitching staff that JD had constructed that year but Nolan said upfront that his style is to do exactly what he ended up doing – observe, evaluate, suggest – and then Implement Massive Change.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

You are so much fun

Please don’t ever, ever change

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Robots don't change

It is way to hard to change the programming.

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by Parman on Mar 11, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Link?

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by ghtd36 on Mar 11, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

It was several key factors all coming together that factored into last year

One being Maddux which Nolan gets the majority of the credit for.

Another being Millwoods vesting option which I would imagine JD gets credit for for putting in the contract. Had Millwood not had the incentive of the nice payday I doubt he performs as well as he did.

Another being the emergence of the young guys. Feldman, Hunter, Feliz and to a lesser degree Holland which both Nolan and JD gets credit for. Nolan for the Maddux hire which helped the young guys out I believe and JD because, aside from Feldman, hes the one who drafted or acquired these guys along with other young guys.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 11, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Not using bigsteve Math

In which FIP, DIPS, and XFIP are largely figments of fantasy and ignorance

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't ignore FIP, DIPS and XFIP

but I don’t worship them either.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I do.

I have an altar and everything. You should come by sometime, the worship services are great. Of course, it’s in my mother’s basement, so I hope you don’t mind…but hey, she makes great punch!

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't directed at you

I was snarking out Steven the Grande this time. Were I snarking out you, I would have made fun of game scores.

I keep detailed data on how to flame individuals on this board. I’m like Sean Avery that way

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't ignore them...they're pieces of information

that I put in the blender.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Millwood should have been worse

But he wasn’t

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 11, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

No, he was.

The defense behind him and the luck of were balls fell after they were connected with was better. Good for him, but that doesn’t make him better.

He was worse.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

He was better at not allowing opposing teams runners to cross home plate

There is no denying that.

This is the major leagues. The pinnacle of professional baseball. Luck plays a very small part in things.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 11, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

But you really sound like a dumbass when you say things like that.

by brettgardner on Mar 11, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

yep

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 11, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Um.
There is no denying that.

Yes, yes there is. There is no denying that fewer runners scored. There is denying whether that was because of his performance or not.

Luck plays a very small part in things.

You have some evidence to support that?

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

We covered this. . .

. . . with absolutely no evidence put forth by you to support it.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Ron Paul-

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by NYTXFAN on Mar 11, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Hammy on Norm @ 11:30

(NothinG gets excited…)

Actually, I think it may be recorded from yesterday, but it’s something.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

When they gave him the news, did he tell Stan Kasten to "zip it"?

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

good stuff

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Mar 11, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Noooooooooo!

I was happy with him squared away far, far away from this team

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

You know Wash at least entertained the thought....

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Mar 11, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Same here. I guess it’s sort of a good thing they have Oliver in this regard.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 11, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean teams can do that now?

The way the Rangers acted, I thought maybe once you signed Eddie Guardado he was like superglued to the wall of your bullpen for the year or something.

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

His wife didn't get out the "Cookbook from the National's Wives" quickly enough.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

x
@TRancel Rays sign Cuban Free-Agent, but not Jose Ruiz. Leslie Anderson signs for 4 yrs 3.75 mil. More to come

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by Kinslerhomer on Mar 11, 2010 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

Leslie Anderson is a Cuban? He just became an immediate contender for Reggie Cleveland All-Stars membership

But wait, the All-Stars were created for white and black players with opposite-sounding names. Would Torii Hunter consider me a racist for putting an imposter Latino in the group?

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Torii Hunter

He wins the “Black dude’s name that sounds like a chick” Award.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Over Coco Crisp?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Coco sounds like a fake stripper name, rather than a hottie

This is the Lindsey Hunter All-Stars. Alexis Rios is probably the most frustrating of all the names. When you hear “Alexis” you want it to be a hot girl.

Q: What about “The Lindsey Hunter All Stars” for male athletes with names that make them sound like a hot girl? Members include Keary Colbert, Ashley Lelie, Lynn Greer, Andrea Bargnani and maybe even Zaza Pachulia? That could be a European supermodel chick to-be-sure. I’m sure I’m missing some obvious ones. Got any?
—Mike DeArmond, Minneapolis
SG: You missed Alexis Rios! How could you create a Lindsey Hunter All-Stars team and not include Alexis Rios??? I’d also include Tatum Bell, Samie Parker, Coco Crisp, Jamie Walker, Aubrey Huff, Jensen Lewis and Kelley Washington. Not sure where Boof Bonser fits into all of this though.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Jensen Lewis sounds like stuck-up

sorority girl from a rich dysfunctional family instead of a spare relief pitcher in Cle.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Aubrey Huff

is a fat chick.

Samie Parker is really hot (no girls named “Sam” are ugly) while Ashley Lelie & Lynn Greer both settle in as nice pieces.

Kelley Washington is a sista.

Jamie Walker has freckles.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Alexis Rios can look hot on certain days and has a great ass

but there’s always the looming spectre of a mustache in the wrong light.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 11, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

You've put much thought into this, and for that I tip my hat to you

Nice work.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's definitely an old-money type name

As opposed to Rios being an obvious supermodel name.

On a similar note, isn’t Marisa Miller’s name one of the more understated in all of hottie land? You hear “Adriana Lima” and expect supermodel. You hear “Marisa Miller” and expect maybe just a regular girl, then, wowza.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Marisa Miller is the name of your first crush…not someone who could crush you with the hotness of her abs…and other parts…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I may have to go stare at her picture now

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

For what it's worth

In addition to Ruiz, who the Rangers have shown interest in, Anderson and Hechevarria, a prominent 22 year old righty with a big FB, Roibal, has reportedly been cleared to sign as well. He seems like the Rangers’ type.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 11, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

So, Roibal is the prominent 22 year old righty, correct?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 11, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

x
@jperrotto #Mets SS Jose Reyes found to be hyperthyroid. Told to rest and change medication and diet. Out indefinitely.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Mar 11, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

That dude is star-crossed

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Last I heard

they hadn’t determined whether he was a hyper or a hypo, though.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a theory..

..that many athletes would fall on the high side of thyroid hormone levels. Absolutely no evidence to back it up, just a theory.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

So like a bigsteve theory, you mean

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Hahaha

Yeah, although I could probably make a stronger case because I don’t think anybody has numbers to prove me wrong. So I can just match symptoms and anecdotal evidence…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

yesterdays game

saw a few highlights on mlb tv. Moreland should have caught that bases clearing double in the 5th, he turned about three different ways on the ball.

Chances Ogando makes the team out of ST? I would have thought zero a few weeks ago, now I’m thinking he might have an outside chance.

by Randy Richardson on Mar 11, 2010 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

still think it is low

unless there are some injuries. it’s not a big deal bringing up a reliever a month into the season when another one is somewhat ineffectual

by ab03 on Mar 11, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a word

and it’s awfully close to ineffective. Just don’t think I wanted to use it in this context

by ab03 on Mar 11, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Who you callin' impotent?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

All of our pitchers are in the best shape of their lives!

(Is that sentence grammatically correct?)

LoneStarDugout Interviewed Kyle Ocampo. He believes a lot more of the pitchers came to camp in great shape this year than past. I agree.

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2010 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

This is what happens

when you actually have talent to challenge for rotation and bullpen spots. No one can take it for granted that their spot is guaranteed anymore.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 11, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Charley Pride

I apologize if this has been mentioned elsewhere. Evan Grant blogged that Charley Pride is reportedly in the Rangers investment group, getting a 0.5% interest in the team for $2.5 million.

Link

I loves me some Charley Pride. Last year, he sung the National Anthem at the Fort Worth Cats’ Opening Day.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Mar 11, 2010 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Heard that earlier

Cool, I loves me some Charlie too.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Charley also

he knows when the easy part is over and the hard part begins

by BEW on Mar 11, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yay for the Hee Haw crowd

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

That infers a a $500M sales price

interesting

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 11, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Easy there Ranger100.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Zing!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Did Ranger100 get banned? He hasn't been seen in a few days

Not that I’m upset.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Dunno

I started to avoid threads he spewed in.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

That's awesome

Charley has been a great friend of the organization for years, very cool that he’s involved in the new ownership.

My dad said when he lived in Lewisville in the early 80s, he’d see Charley cruising around various places in the Metroplex and Charley was always waving at everyone like he was glad to see them.

Great guy, by all accounts.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

More Charley Pride in the S-T

This was written by Anthony Andro. No mention of the ownership stake. However, they are taking a look at him for their utility infielder spot.

The players still like seeing Pride. He was at shortstop Tuesday and snared a liner Ian Kinsler hit during batting practice.

Pride still loves playing a little baseball

I’m gonna get a Burger and Fries and a Cherry Pie

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Mar 11, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

How did he make that kind of money...?

Royalties? Really?

I grew up in Dallas and I still know none of his songs, just the name (plus my dad used to point out his house, I think around Northaven?).

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

He's got 36 #1 hits, one of the most successful country artists of all time

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to have heard this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCSO0itu79U

Personal fave is ‘Roll on Mississippi’, makes me wanna forget my worries.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Mar 11, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Kiss an Angel Good Morning

my favorite Pride song.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine too

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Just to recap

Thus far we’ve got:

—A young Pittsburgh sports attorney and minor league franchise owner
—A baseball Hall of Famer who is also a very successful cattleman, entrepreneur, and minor league franchise owner
—A Country Music Hall of Famer who also played Negro League baseball and isthe only African-American member of the Grand Ole Opry
—Two great Texas businessmen who built their wealth in the energy business

I believe this will work.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Is he officially in the group?

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, the Group of Overrated.

Take that!

:)

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 11, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

from Andro

I am surprised som any regulars amde the trip to Tuscon.

The Rangers are going to let Scott Feldman swing away today, so count on him being a potent threat from the No. 9 spot.

The lineup is: 1, Julio Borbon; 2, Michael Young; 3, Ian Kinsler; 4, Josh Hamilton; 5, Nelson Cruz; 6, Chris Davis; 7, Taylor Teagarden; 8, Elvis Andrus; 9, Scott Feldman.

Jarrod Saltalamacchia still won’t play until at least this weekend because of the pain from loose scar tissue in his right shoulder.

That’s it from Tucson. If you want some game updates from the game which isn’t on the air, follow me on Twitter @aandro.

Also, EG is doing a chat at 1:30.

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/

Re pic: Does Ian know where that finger has been?

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP

by RangerMad on Mar 11, 2010 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Jason (Salem, OR) Did you see Randy Galloway of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram’s report that said some baseball people felt Mitch Moreland would be the team’s 1B in 2012 rather than Davis or Smoak? Thoughts?

Jim Callis (2:38 PM) Did not see that. And that’s insane.

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2010 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

Nice

Callis doesn’t mince any words.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

OT-Upset Alert

Tech only down 2 with 6 mins to go against Kansas in the Big XII tourney.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

That would be so phenomenal for the Ags if Tech beats KU

Of course, wishing for that means Tech would then whip the Aggies in the semis. Freaking Singletary will score 75.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

If Tech wins it, I suddenly become a Husker fan and feel dirty.

But now that I posted that, Tech is imploding. Stupid jinx.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Crap

Unfortunately for our hopes, Bill Self > Pat Knight when the chips are down and the game is on the line.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Uhmmm Bill Self >>>>>>>>>>> Pat Knight

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as it pains me to have Self in the Ags' way every year

I’m glad he’s at KU. There aren’t many jobs for which Turgeon would drop us like a hot potato, KU would be at the top of that list. Thank goodness Self is the king of that place and not going anywhere.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

If Self didn't leave for OSU and the riduclous rumored salary numbers that were being thrown around...

…he’s not going anywhere until he wants to retire. If you turn down your alma mater AND a raise, you are pretty pleased where you are.

I really do like Self, though – KU is my second favorite Big XII team.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

They seem to do things the right way.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's certainly hard to hate Self

You wish you could hate him, but you can’t, because he does things the right way and seems like one of the better guys in the profession. And it’s good to have a guy like that representing the elite of the conference and not someone in the Floyd/Calipari/Sampson mold.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 11, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Calipari oogs me out.

The Grease:Hair ratio is all out of whack.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

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