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Ben and Skin podcast with CJ
Rangers LHP C.J. Wilson joins Ben and Skin to say the players support manager Ron Washington despite reports about him testing positive for cocaine.
by GregoryM on Mar 17, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
According to JD
A few of the leaders were told early this morning, and MY was one. The rest of the players found out at an all hands on deck team meeting, which included all coaches, scouts, club personnel, etc as was present in AZ.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Also, all front office personnel
Were on a conference call later, so they could be ready for the public/media barrage.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I like it.
This might turn into a positive.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
9:00
"I've had a lot of experience with semantics, so don't try to lure me into some maze of circular logic."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Mar 17, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
George tell me.....
What do you know about……Cocaine.
by SaltyGoesYard on Mar 17, 2010 7:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
"Anybody who doesn't feel that way isn't a Texas Ranger."
Does he feel the same way about Ranger fans if we have a problem with the whole issue?
I do feel for him in this respect…we all have our demons that we are fighting but I can’t imagine my issues being played out in public.
"I've had a lot of experience with semantics, so don't try to lure me into some maze of circular logic."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Mar 17, 2010 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
And that's why you're Face, Face
Probably the best thing he could have said, given the fact that the Rangers have made it clear they are going with Wash.
""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD
agreed....this statement by FOTF has pumped me up to unbelievable levels.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you expect anything less?
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope, but it's still nice to hear/read
This is now the Rangers’ family commune, and the cops are outside with guns drawn and sirens wailing…but these Bitchez don’t care, they got each other’s backs.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Except for CJ, who just keeps walkin' around calling everyone "Dude" for some reason.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I was having a flashback from
The Devil’s Rejects.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
never now brian...never know.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
and that would be....*know.*
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Four reel, Reyan
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
chicken grease.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this quote from Hamilton
“He made a mistake one time. Our stories are nothing alike. He came forward. He took it like a man. I think Wash handled it well. It’s a privilege to be a spokesman for him. I feel nothing less about Wash. He’s learned from this.’’
It would have been stupid to try to draw comparisons between the two
""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD
that is awesome
i am in total agreement with you
Reassignments from The Newberg
The Rangers have optioned righthanders Omar Poveda (out for the season) and Omar Beltre and lefthander Zach Phillips to Frisco, and have assigned the following non-roster players to minor league camp: lefthanders Kasey Kiker and Clay Rapada, catcher Emerson Frostad, and infielder Marcus Lemon. No surprises in the bunch (while not surprising, it’s interesting that the club wants to see some more of righthander Alexi Ogando before sending him out on option).
The big league camp just got a lot less dreamy... :(
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
And that hack Ben Snyder stays on
Blasphemy
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
If they officially optioned Beltre
does that mean hes on the 40 already? If so who got booted off to make room for him. Poveda hasn’t been 60’d yet.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Looking to get away
fro all the RW blabber? Chech out the Kasey Kiker fanshot.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
Mikey Why and Nolan are behind this 100%....good times.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
You're not upset about this at all?
I’m not doing my Hellen Lovejoy or making secret plans to douse him in pig’s blood (or am I? … Mua ha ha! ), but the idea that the man directly in charge of the day to day operations of such a large and expensive operation was doing blow doesn’t trouble you at all?
Again, I’m not outraged or even all that pissed about this (I’m the Jirkatron… I’m always a little angry… it’s in my nature), but it does concern me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
x
the idea that the man directly in charge of the day to day operations of such a large and expensive operation was doing blow doesn’t trouble you at all?
I would wager that there are quite a few folks out there in the world who are directly in charge of the day to day operations of a large and expensive operation who use cocaine from time to time.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 17, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, indeed. I didn't mean to imply that recreational drug use precludes someone from being good at their job.
However, the hypothetical folks you mention here… Are they subject to random drug testing, though?
Wash did know he was subject to that beforehand, right?
Doesn’t that make the decision a whole fuck of a lot more troubling?
What that says about his decision making process troubles me a fuck of a lot more than the simple fact that he did some blow.
I’ve never done a drug in my life (disregarding alcahol, naturally), but that’s a personal choice rather than some puritanical demonization of drug use.
Pretty much every single person I’ve ever dated or been friends with has either done drugs or had done them in the past. I tend to think the impact of recreationally using most “light” drugs is much less than we make it out to be.
So, yah.
Not sure if I’m saying this right… but the fact that he did coke is dissapointing.
The fact that he chose to do it given the particulars of the position that he’s in… That’s the much more troubling thing, imo.
(Well that and the fact that I have serious, serious doubts about his “Only time” statment. No way a near-60 year old dude just up and does coke for the first time… The odds of that have got to be pretty astronimical.)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm interested to see if Wash knew of the upcoming drug test...this in itself will speak volumes to me.
stick it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe he was notified of the random test, got nervous
and did some coke to handle the stress of his upcoming drug test.
seems logical.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know for certain, but my interpretation was that he knew he was subject to random testing.
He didn’t know he was gonna get tested, but knew that he could be at any time.
That sort of thing.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you can say all that with complete certainty
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If he was subject to 1 random test throughout the year is much better...
…than him knowing of the EXACT date of the test
I would prefer him failing a rather than b. If he failed b then we’d pretty much know he had a big problem.
No matter what, he still got popped….do the crime, do the time.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he'd've known.
Random drug testing ceases to be random if they know ahead of time.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Since the Mitchell Investigations
all clubhouse personell, coaches, players, etc are subject to testing..he would have known this for at least two years…he just got popped
dammit...you made me sound stupid.
I know what random dt means. My point was that had wash known it wasn’t a RANDOM DT and still failed the test then I would lose all hope in him and the FO.
Why can’t you read my mind?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Cause the mustache obscures my view, duh.
God I love that thing.
Can I touch it?
Is there a way to touch things over the interwebs?
Cause if there is, oh boy…
TOUCHEY, TOUCHEY !!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The one time thing.
I’m curious to know more about just how accurately a medical examination can reveal how much cocain a person has consumed. The idea that the Rangers waited until the conclusion of the medical examination before refusing his resignation interests me.
My first take was along the same line; I had very, very little faith in the idea that this could possibly be a one time thing. But I’d be interested in knowing more about the examination and how reliable its findings are.
And fwiw, even if it wasn’t a one time thing, it’s very unlikely that he was addicted or even a habitual user. Otherwise his transition into being tested three times a week and perhaps withdrawing to some extent would have been something that people around the team might have noticed, no?
in this day and time
cocaine is a white collar drug. I completely agree
What the hell does that even mean? And what the hell does it have to do with this situation or AJM's comment or, you know... anything?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
what the hell it means
is that cocaine is a drug that is used by people that you would normally not think would, ala figure heads, people in charge….what about what I wrote doesn’t make sense to you
Meh, I read it as "exclusively white collar", which on second reading, it doesn't.
My bad.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
just get rich friends?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly could have cared less
about his drug use, because, as Adam says, there are lots of folks in charge of operations being coked up, and coked up VPs of Sales aren’t exactly uncommon.
My only issue is the Hamilton issue. Failing a coke test after Hamilton’s falling off the wagon really doesn’t sit well with me.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
why?
They are both grown men who make decisions for themselves..and Hamilton falling of the wagon was a result of alchohol, as far as anyone knows….Wash is no Jesus Christ figure that Hamilton looks up to for console…isnt that Narron’s role? I don’t get it why Wash should act a certain way just because we have a former drug addict on our team…..
Act a certain way?
Like not use illegal drugs? I don’t think that’s a high bar to set for the manager, when potentially one of the best players on the team has a history of the same drug.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Your take on this is pretty inconsistent w/ past comments you've made, Dan
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've said
if it wasn’t for the fact that managing Hamilton is part of his job, I really wouldn’t care.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
so
Josh goes…damn Wash uses blow………man I can’t wait to do a bump…thats absurd
I'm baiting GD...leave me alone.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Young then added...
However, the fact that he didn’t throw a pouty, vagina-tinged hissy fit in public and demand to be traded when he found out about it does mean that he will never ascend to Face of the Franchise status.
I mean, how is this ordeal going to end up costing us a year of Elvis’ team control time?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Gonna need a link Jirk.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
dammit
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Now...
We will get to hear all about how the Rangers are an immoral and crappy franchise for not firing Washington. People will start bringing up Hamilton’s past drug problems and his alcohol lapse spring. They will point out Kenny Roger’s incident with the reporter and Frankie throwing the chair into the stands. Every little incident in the last 10 to 15 years we will be brought up in effort to prove that the Rangers are an undisciplined franchise. Get ready, the Rangers will now be considered the Cincinnati Bengals of MLB just because of the transgressions of a people. I am sure that similar situations have occurred with other franchises, just the Ranger’s management actually comes out and admits it. Hopefully, the team will use this as motivation.
Well if they get a nickname
it won’t be like the franchise doesn’t deserve it.
The biggest difference was the Rangers got caught. The Rangers management shouldn’t get bonus points for coming out and admitting it. Given the timing, its a fair bet they are just trying to get it out there before it got reported anyway.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
oops
People will start bringing up Hamilton’s past drug problems and his alcohol lapse “last” spring.
blowgate..recommended.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I love it...
“The Texas Rangers love Ron Washington…I love Ron Washington…” – Ron Washington
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 17, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness to Ron
The way the offense was looking last summer, I think we where all contemplating cocaine usage at one point or another.
(Seriously though… what does this retard have to do to get his ass fired as manager?)
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
in fairness to Ron
seems like every time that the team was tanking and we were all thinking," this it it", the team rallied…this team responds to him…..look at what happens when players hate the manager(Cecil Cooper)
Yeah...
I think those rallies had more to do with the players and positive regression than it has to do with Ron “firing up the troops”. For one thing this isn’t football, and for another if Ron supposedly has these great motivating skills, how did he let things get to the “this is it” point so many times?
The guy is a poor baseball manager who knows little to nothing about the strategics of the game. Which really doesn’t make him that much different that 90% of the other managers out there, I guess – but it shocks me that the bastard can get away with being shitty at his job and snorting coke. Why JD and Nolan let him keep going as manager is the biggest mystery about this club.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
MLB bullshit TV rules interrogative
So, switched to Dish last summer. For those that don’t know, I live 1500 miles from DFW, in Virginia.
First game on TV tonight. I click on the FSSW channel. Nope. Blackout rules apply. Odd. Stupid.
I click on the FOXNW. Good to go, no problemo.
Anyone know why that would be?
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
no idea
but where in VA are livin?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Fredericksburg
We’re like the Frisco of DC.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Hot MILFs?
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Except we are an old, historical town w/ lots of cool Civil War shit
And less cookie cutter chain shite.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
And one bored, unsastisfied housewife willing to make the drive all the way down to South Carolina to see what this "female orgasm" thing people keep speaking of is all about.
HEY-OOOOOOO!!!!
BOOM GOES THE DINE OH MIGHT
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 17, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If you want to meet the Goddess, all you gotta do is meet up w/ us in Hickory
A little less squawkin, a little more walkin, Tressa.
And Mrs. Sauce may very well be bored. You try being married for 8 years, see how fascinating your partner’s daily bon mots are.
Heh. Single guys have no idea.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's my speed.
My wife’s dad lives in Weyerscave, VA. I have no idea where it is other than it’s in the Shenandoah Valley. Went there last year and it was cool….going this year and make it a Civil War tour.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 17, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Shenadoah is about an hour and a half away.
If you want to hook up, I’d happily buy you 1-7 beers.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
K.I.T.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 18, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
try this
if you know anyone in DFW, use their address…I live out of broadcast range, and I told Dish to change my permanent address to an old college address I had in Fort Worth, but to keep my billing adress the same… so after that,I get all my locals from DFW no matter where I live…that sucks for weather updates, but you get every Ranger game.
Wow. Thanks.
I’m a little dubious that that will work, but I thank you profusely nonetheless.
That’s exactly the reply I was looking for.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep this is what I've done
Works like a charm.
Where do you live?
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 18, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe...
how many comments there are on all this. I mean it caught me off guard and all, but damn.
Is it wrong that I don’t see this as that big of a deal?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
'Wrong' might not be the right word,
but yeah, it’s kind of a big deal.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Took the words right out of my man-mouth.
If you want to find a big deal in all this mess, let’s talk about your failure to master the art of the reply after all this time…
Yah, I went there.
Cause I’m a handsome rebel, that’s why.
I don’t play by your rules, and I do look good doing it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 18, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
#3 with a bullet on Yahoo's top searches - 'scoop16 reply fail'
- Health care
- Handsome rebels
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Hmmm.. So RG is saying all this came out because of a disgruntled ex-employee who was blackmailing Wash.
Interesting. If this was NY, that cat would be hanging out with Hoffa.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
If the Rangers didn't think
this would come out eventually, they were pretty silly after the “confidential” steroid test leaks and the Hamilton story coming out.
As soon as anyone fails a test, you might as well prepare for the inevitable day when it will become public knowledge.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Hmn
a disgruntled ex-employee
So it was Vicente Padilla?
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
He demanded $30MM over 3 years...
…to guarantee his silence.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Mar 18, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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The Rangers have let go three long-time employees: veteran scouts Mel Didier and Jay Robertson and equipment manager Zack Minasian.
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