Friday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 19, 2010 8:57 AM CDT
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PrintYesterday's spring game against the Brewers may have had a significant impact on who makes the starting rotation...
Matt Harrison was very impressive yesterday, striking out 5 batters in a row at one point while going four innings and allowing two runs, helping his cause.
Meanwhile, Tommy Hunter, who appeared to have the fourth starter spot well in hand, was scratched from his start yesterday because of a strained ribcage muscle. Depending on how long he's sidelined, he could end up starting the season on the d.l. or in the minors, meaning two of the candidates for the fifth starter job could be in the rotation.
Evan Grant thinks the Hunter injury could open the door for C.J. Wilson to make the rotation. So does Richard Durrett.
Anthony Andro writes that the Rangers are trying to get both Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Taylor Teagarden into game shape, while trying to make a decision as to which will be the starter this season.
The S-T has some notes up from yesterday, including a rundown of the B game. T.R. Sullivan also has some notes from yesterday.
Buster Olney has some comments on the Ron Washington situation.
The type of people who send angry emails to Randy Galloway sent angry emails to Randy Galloway yesterday, expressing anger at Nolan Ryan for not having fired Ron Washington, anger at Galloway for not demanding that Washington be fired, and claiming they aren't going to go to TBIA anymore because a cokehead is the manager. Whatever.
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I know the season is getting closer
When I start checking the Morning Things post as soon as I see it’s up, instead of moseying on over whenever I feel like it.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
On a positive note
Now that Wash is an admitted coke user that should translate into some added fans from the Houston area to replace any we may lose from the DFW area.
Kudos
for saying lose instead of loose. Its a big thing to some people
LSB: Chalked full of grammar!
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
two trew.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Hunter sounds like he is out
of the original rotation. That should open a 2nd spot in the rotation.
My guess is CJ and BMac have to fight off the late challenge by Harrison for those 2 spots.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Yeah. I think CJ and BMac get the nod based on experience, but Harrison joins the bullpen with an eye on BMac's spot.
With Harrison’s dominant short inning performances, I can envision the Rangers FO thinking about a CJ career path for Harrison.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
What do you base that on?
Here’s my thinking:
What the AFL and ST have shown the FO about Harrison is that he’s becoming a different pitcher and he’s extremely effective in short-inning situations, which is why I would guess they would let him continue to refine his new dominant self in the bullpen.
They are about to learn whether CJ can get through a batting order twice, but they clearly have learned he can control his pitch count.
They know BMac is league-average #4 or #5, and might be a little less homer prone as he learns to use his cutter.
So, I think they go with CJ over BMac, so long as CJ has a good outing when he faces the batting order twice. And, I think they go with BMac over Harrison by virtue of Harrison reinventing himself.
If Hunter is injured, my guess is the likely scenario is CJ and BMac in the rotation, and Harrison is a BMac three-game slump away from being in the rotation. Though, I think Harrison gets a good look as a starter on the remaining ST start days that would’ve gone to Hunter. If CJ slips, I could see Harrison and BMac in the rotation.
If Hunter isn’t injured, it’s still a toss-up between CJ and BMac for the fifth spot.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
I've always thought
his option will work against him.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
If RG is right...
a certain irritating contingent of Rangers “fans” will be pleasantly absent this year… Yay!
by bhudson on Mar 19, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
An excellent point.
I think the Rangers should run “sanctimonious dickheads won’t be in attendance due to ‘moral’ outrage” commercials now.
It ought to cut down
on the huge crowds of church kids who go to the christian music concert games and don’t pay ANY attention to the game and are loud and obnoxious throughout.
Yeah, I’m totally deluding myself.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
You are, because it's likely that the only person on the team they actually know of is Josh Hamilton.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
Maybe not...
I’d guess there’s a lot of overlap between the “morally outraged sanctimonious dickhead” crowd and the “church crowd”.
This has been my experience.
But I forgot about the Hamilton thing. They probably cancel each other out.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
So
Does that mean the Rangers can replace some of those “family-friendly” concerts with some music that appeals to someone other than 12-year-olds, country-western fans, and/or the church crowd?
Not all of us Ranger fans like Shania Twain, Amy Grant, or the Jonas Brothers.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
Umm, Shania Twain?
The Rangers have Texas country artists, not freaking Shania Twain.
Robert Earl Keen playing the south lawn is > whoever you want to play.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 19, 2010 9:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Shania Twain
Just throwing out a random country musician- I don’t like most country music, so it’s not like I really pay attention to that sort of thing.
Robert Earl Keen’s OK.
But I don’t think it’s too much to ask for the occasional rock band, and not Top 40 radio crap either.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
Not that I'm planning on boycotting
or anything along those lines. But how is it that everyone is OK with this? The manager does coke and everyone thinks its no big deal? I feel like I’m in bizzaro world.
This isn’t an irreplaceable player that you stomach through it because he has natural talent that you can’t find elsewhere. This is somebody who’s job is almost 100% mental and he has the poor judgment to sniff cocaine, knowing that he is subject to drug tests. We have the team leader and the guy who is supposed to hold players to their responsibilities totally shirking all common sense and doing lines. How is anyone supposed to have any faith in his decision making process knowing that it is fickle enough or poor enough to fall into a trap so easily avoided.
I also don’t feel like telling the team after you’ve been tested, knowing you’ll be busted, that you did it is any sort of “stand up move”. That is every bit as stand up as me fessing up to getting in a fight at grade school before the teacher can tell my parents. If he said something before the test that would be one thing but anything after finding out you were going to be tested is too late for any “cry for help” sympathy.
It may be that I work in an industry where failing a drug test ends your career and have no sympathy but I just don’t understand the complacence here.
I'm ok with it because it happened months ago and
nothing appears to have cropped up since then. I’m also ok with it because the players sure as hell seem to like this guy and want to win for him.
The players just found out
They didn’t know until this week as I’ve read the story. You think that a person doesn’t lose luster in people’s eyes when they find something like this out? Imagine if you found out your boss did coke last year: would you still take him seriously? Would his opinion still matter in whether or not you should do coke?
I can’t see him being able to tell anyone anything this year without the players secretly thinking “Yea, well maybe you shouldn’t be sniffing coke.” It is not about what they say publicly it is about what they think personally and a revelation like this has to affect that.
Rosenthal
Says some players knew about it September
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/rosenthal-pressure-now-on-rangers-manager-washington-31710
Some of them knew as far back as last September that Washington had tested positive, according to one source; perhaps the news did not faze them.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
We talked about the players knowing about this last September
and how internal dysfunction, if bad enough, will play itself out on the field.
How the hell does This Thing score one run in five games and how the hell do they start the season 79-60 and end the season with an 8-15 at the most important time of year?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Hank Blalock zombied the rest of the club?
by MikeEl on Mar 19, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Tired pitchers. Injured Face. Ineffective Hambone.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Maybe because their best hitter was out of the lineup?
For a team with scoring issues, taking a guy with a nearly .900 OPS out of the lineup is going to hurt a lot more than a team finding out that their manager did something dumb a couple of months earlier. That ever occur to you?
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
Possible but winning makes everything better
and I think this team is gonna end up winning a lot a games regardless of who’s at the helm.
Well, thing is it's too late to fire him now
With everybody saying all the politically correct things and the team swooning all over themselves in support of him right now, firing him for something they spent over 6 months ignoring is pretty much out of the question.
He should’ve been fired at the end of last season – I have no idea how a major league manager can get away with being both shitty at his job and snorting coke. But the thing is he did.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
I'll do it
I’ll be the one to pull the race card out.
I’m not sure if I’m convinced that’s the reason. But I’m convinced it’s A reason.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
x
“I have no idea how a major league manager can get away with being both shitty at his job and snorting coke.”
Because he’s a very likable guy. That’s all that I can think of.
The most logical explanation I can think of
Is that the Rangers fear some kind of a clubhouse reprisal if they fire Ron.
And I’d wager that fear has saved his job several times over.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
I am not going to boycott the team
but I’m sure as hell not going to forgive Washington for doing this.
When you are a major league manager, you are held to a higher standard. You’re not a truck driver strung out on meth. You’re not the night manager in charge of stocking at Kroger. You are the manager of a major league baseball team and that means no matter how stressful the job seems, you can’t do cocaine.
He has one option – win this year with no hiccups.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
See, that's such a quandary
But my answer is: no. To both. He should have been fired, but the organization was forgiving. Same with LaRussa.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Can I drink and drive? Yes.
Do I? Nope.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I can
but I have to keep one eye closed to do it.
I quit the heavy drinking when I turned 21, though.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Like the rest of us, I bet you take it up again when you have kids.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Not me
No kids for us, ever.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
ah. Well maybe when you turn 40, then.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
That
is entirely possible.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
I drink and drive every day.
Not alcohol though…. I’m not that stupid. You’d have to be a complete brain Dead moron to consume alcohol and then drive.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I think this would have been true
He has one option – win this year with no hiccups.
Regardless of if he did coke or not.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
so Driving under the influence is cool with you?
but a baseball manager can’t have some fun?
by kevinkinsler on Mar 19, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
A dui is not cool in any way but a manager who is doing
coke during the most important time of the year to date (and that’s what those games v LAAA were), he doesn’t need to be the manager of the team any more.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Just saying...
if a the dude really just used coke that one night in the season, I doubt it affected his managing abilities whatsoever
Just curious
Do you know how much coke Wash did and what the actual effects are of it?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
i have to agree
doing coke is the bad decision, i don’t see it influencing game day decisions though
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
reply fail
supposed to be reply to Gdawg
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit.
I am not going to boycott the team but I’m sure as hell not going to forgive Washington for doing this.
Now Ron won’t be able to manage effectively for all the sleep loss this is going to cause him. You know how he lives or dies based upon what you think of him.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
Which he probably started after finding out Josey didn't like him ....
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
Can you do us all a favor though?
Can you boycot Lone Star Ball.
please?
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
For as terrible as Wash is as a manager
The team has improved their W/L record including last season, when the team had its 5th best season over the past 30 years. I have no clue why they didn’t fire him right after the season for being so lousy.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I Feel Torn
Wish they would have fired him when the test came out.
But seeing as they didn’t firing him now this close to the season beginning would be detrimental to the teams’ success.
by usmccowboysfan on Mar 19, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
won't anyone think of the children?
the immoral/irresponsible argument isn’t going to be settled but as far as the impaired judgement argument goes— do you know how many straight-up drunks have/still do coach mlb teams? and do it well, to boot?
that's different
because being drunk isn’t considered a personal weakness in a lot of circles and certainly isn’t on the level of doing lines of coke in 99% of society.
Well
That’s because 99% of society are fucking idiots.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
by RCCook on Mar 19, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
That's irrelevant
The question is how people will view him. If 99% of people’s view on him changes it stands to reason that several of the player’s views will also change. If the player’s views change in a negative way then they won’t listen to him and he could lose them. This is the problem I have. Would you work for a cokehead?
Doesn't bother me
If that person were competent at their job, I really wouldn’t care.
It’s possible to do drugs and be a functioning member of society and good at your job. Perhaps not at an addiction level, but Wash isn’t an addict.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
It is possible to do drugs and be a functioning member of society
but we’re talking about a major league manager with a coke problem.
His job means he needs to lead and command respect of his players. That means his word cannot be questioned. When he needs to get in somebody’s face, that player is gonna say " F you, cokehead."
He also needs to make hundreds to thousands of decisions every day. One of Ron Washington’s biggest problems as a manager is that he doesn’t make very good decisions with this baseball team.
On top of that, he doesn’t make very good decisions off the field.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
In all fairness
we only have 1 failed drug test…to say that RW has a “coke problem” may be embellishing a bit based on what we actually know at this point.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
well, nevermind
i didn’t see all the other replies under the double post….my bad.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Big Bob Loblaw
I’m not looking to put Wash in jail. If that was the case, yes, I’d need a lot more evidence.
What I’m trying to figure out is whether or not he’s used periodically in the past or if he had the incredible bad luck to use it once and have MLB show up in the clubhouse within 48 hours.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
What does the evidence indicate?
He said he only used once. He cleared a tough testing program and never tested positive again. It appears he either 1) used once or 2) has quit. Do you “know” anything to indicate otherwise?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I'm not looking to put him in jail, Cowboy.
What I’m trying to determine is if all that managerial dumbassery I’ve had to watch for 3 years was because my manager had a coke problem and how the team is going to play for him going forward.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The point is,
if he’s not doing coke anymore, then it isn’t a problem
if you trusted his performance last season, with a couple coke uses, then you should trust him this year now that he’s “recovered”
that is a very, very good point.
Until the 2nd half of last season and now going forward, I guess we never knew if Wash was clean or not. Now, for absolute certain because of the expanded tests, we know he is not using.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Well
There’s that little fact that the Rangers had Doctors check him for signs of previous abuse, and he came up clean. Also had to undergo some type of psych eval too, I believe.
But we’ll just ignore all of that and call him a “crackhead”…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
There is a large contingent of dumbasses
who believe a 57 year old man suddenly decided it was a good idea to jump into the Cocaine River for the first time only to have the terrible luck of seeing MLB show up a couple of days later with a cup to whizz in.
You can’t save the world.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Ladies and Gentleman...Step right up!!! Get in line now to be the first to enjoy Josey Wales' Ride of Absolutes.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Mar 19, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
THIS IS AN AWESOME PIC
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
is that what Josey looks like these days?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
nah
that’s too classy a stache
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The great Josey Wales' Ride of Absolutes...
man that is spot on. No grey areas exist with Mr Wales, except for Hamilton.
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 19, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
all I'm saying
is that the only shred of indication that we have that Wash is a habitual user is the “strange coincidence” that he was tested so close to the “one time” he used.
I’m of the camp that believes a baseball manager doesn’t really have that much to do with the on-field product. I wanted to give RW a chance because I did think the team played well for him in tough times, but I’m not going to be crying if he gets canned.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
It is possible to do drugs and be a functioning member of society
but we’re talking about a major league manager with a coke problem.
His job means he needs to lead and command respect of his players. That means his word cannot be questioned. When he needs to get in somebody’s face, that player is gonna say " F you, cokehead."
He also needs to make hundreds to thousands of decisions every day. One of Ron Washington’s biggest problems as a manager is that he doesn’t make very good decisions with this baseball team.
On top of that, he doesn’t make very good decisions off the field.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
x
When he needs to get in somebody’s face, that player is gonna say " F you, cokehead."
Doubtful, says MY.
“We’re hopeful this will bring us together, and we can rally around each other a little more,” Young said. “Asking about dissension or a distraction, it’s a fair question. But it’s not relevant in this clubhouse. We have a solid group of guys in here and they’re not going to judge somebody on a mistake and not on their worst moment.”
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
You're proceeding under some false assumptions here.
Would you work for a cokehead?
The evidence on hand actually doesn’t support this at all. Based upon the testing done since, RW is not a cokehead. At best you can conclude he made a single error in judgment last season. However, if your argument is that he should have been fired, blowing the evidence out of proportion with statements like “cokehead” certainly makes your argument sound more reasonable. The problem is that if you have to change the facts to fit your argument, your argument is pretty weak.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
Doesn't matter
In a position of leadership it is the appearance that matters. When did I say he should be fired? I don’t know how to handle it going forward but I probably would have fired or demoted him. I also never said he was a cokehead. I asked the question because the perception is that somebody who does cocaine, does cocaine – recreational is only a word that drug users use.
Yeah, I've never been employed.
Maybe one day when I grow up!
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish I could be a professional student, damn would that be great.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Wrong.
I’ve seen plenty of real cokeheads and they act nothing like RW. There is definitely a segment of society that believes strongly in zero tolerance and wants to see the worst in everybody—and the conclusions you are jumping to are exactly how that crowd would view this situation. If he was a cokehead he would have tested positive again sometime after the incident. Cokeheads can’t quit cold turkey and almost never stop immediately after the first time they’re caught.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
If you mean he isn't a cocaine addict
I’m willing to concede that and I have no knowledge either way, I never said he was a cokehead. However any decision he makes from now on will be questioned as one that came from somebody without a strong mental or moral standing.
Maybe he had
a Come to Jesus meetin’
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I would assume he has meetings with Maddux all the time.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
i bet those revolve mostly
around mustaches
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell man?
He did some coke. Who the fuck cares? Someone getting drunk is in no better “mental or moral standing” in my eyes. Which is to say, I plan to get drunk tonight, so party on Ron Washington, party the fuck on.
Monday morning, I’ve got a seminar to teach. Is my actions over the weekend going to make me less credible because I was blitzed out of my mind? No. I always perform my work duties at the zenith of awesomeness regardless of how reckless I am with the substances I put in my body in my spare time because I understand that being an adult has responsibilities.
If Ron Washington can do that as Texas Ranger manager—and no, Ron, putting Eddie Guardado in, in the 7th, of a tied game DOES NOT COUNT—and isn’t endangering the lives of others with his choices, who the fuck cares what he does with his spare time?
Stop the regulatin’ and playa hatin’, man. Ron Washington doesn’t tell you what to do with your precious spare time.
by ghostofErikThompson on Mar 19, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Who cares if you're teaching some spare
class of somesuch?
You are not a major league manager.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The people who employed me to teach it...
care about my performance. Just like the people that employed Ron Washington to manage a major league team care about his.
Both seem to alright with what we do, so why can’t you?
by ghostofErikThompson on Mar 19, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Goet...I don't really care about your
performance in whatever it is you do unless you’re the manager of my favorite baseball team.
If you’re the manager of my favorite team, I don’t want you jumping into the Cocaine River on game day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I imagine
quite a few people on this board do.
I’ve know quite a few folks in sales and sales management in various companies that I would’ve bet did coke.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Yeah, being a drunk isn't considered a personal weakness? Since when?
I don’t drink, but I have no problem with drinking. I do have a problem with drunkenness. I’ve seen too many lives and families destroyed by people who couldn’t stay away from the bottle.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 19, 2010 10:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think there is a difference between...
…being okay with it and viewing it as a fireable offense.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 19, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I can understand that
But what is offense level? A fine? I think I heard he went to rehab, is that right? What did he do to make it right?
If TLR had been busted for
snorting coke, I would have wanted him fired if my favorite team was the Cardinals.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Here we go, sorry about size, I can never get that to re-size
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
by RangersSD on Mar 19, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Also
the real issue is how can he be taken seriously anyways? If the coach doesn’t have credibility isn’t that a fireable offense?
Seems pretty obvious
That Wash’s credibility is still pretty strong with the players — and that’s what would matter.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
That's part of the problem in Texas.
The players really like Wash and are afraid the team is gonna bring in a hardass who changes things and crawls up their ass.
I don’t really care if the players like the manager. I want them to respect and fear the manager to such a degree that the idea of losing baseball games is pure misery.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Like Buck?
Yeah, because he was so much more successful than Wash.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
by RCCook on Mar 19, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then the only logical solution
is to hire Jimmy Johnson to manage the Rangers, he’d whip those sissies into shape
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The wind blows to hard at RBiA,
his hair would never hold up.
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 19, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not football
where you play 16 games a year and a loss is a big deal. 162 games. The best teams will still lose 65-75 times. If every one of those is pure misery, you won’t make it through the season.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 19, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care
I don’t care if the entire team is doing lines off hookers tits during the 7th inning stretch, as long as they win 90+ games and make the playoffs I’m happy.
“Just win baby”
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Adam
Do you think Washington should have been fired for using coke?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
So you're okay with This Thing
having a manager who on top of everything else, has a coke problem?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait
Is it your position that if you use cocaine, you have a cocaine problem?
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 19, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
My position is
that I don’t buy the bullshit that a 57 year old man all of the sudden decides to try cocaine and that darn the luck, MLB happens to show up with a cup to whizz in 72 hours later.
My guess is that Wash used recreationally and that’s a problem.
No, I don’t have evidence that he did so but I’m not looking to put him in jail.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
If he used recreationally and yet was still able to do his job in a manner that his employers found acceptable, then I don’t see what the problem is.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 19, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Doing illegal things is a problem even if it doesn't effect his job performance.
You could argue that coke should be legalized, but I don’t think it’s very wise to let your employees do illegal things, ever.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Got money on a bracket this year?
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Did I say that I don't do illegal things?
I just said that it’s unwise for management to allow its employees to do illegal things.
Also, there’s a bit of a difference between a traffic offense that results in a fine and felony crime that results in jail time.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Simple possession...
I don’t think it’s a felony that results in jail time.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I think it depends on the state.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Possession is a felony
Not sure about jail time being a guarantee, but its still a felony.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I should have added
that at least in Texas, possession is a felony.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I think in N. Carolina it's a simple misdemeanor
depending on the amount, of course.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
So no office pool?
That takes down the employee production for an entire month?
I’m not being a smart ass, just think showing there are other things out there that would have a more negative on effect on productivity or job performance then what is equivelant to doing coke on a Friday night and going back to work on Monday.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Unfortunately, no one is running one of those.
I used to, but the interest has died out as folks have moved away, and it just isn’t worth the effort. All of my brackets are online brackets now.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
So it's okay with you
if Wash continues with the same performance he’s had the last 3 years and dabbles in coke as long as he’s not caught?
Because you’re fooling yourself if you think last July was the only time he used coke during his tenure as Ranger manager.
The dumbass finally has his team on the heels of the Angels and they’re playing their most important games of the year to date and Homes thinks this was a good time to bring out the crack pipe.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
shhh, let him keep doing it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
At least he didn't call him a "brother"
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
That's implied
By all the “dumbass” comments.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
There is a big difference between smoking crack and snorting coke.
Just to clear that up.
"Fuck those guys. They got lucky. I’m going to whip their ass the next time I take the mound."
You know...
Josey’s got to be inflammatory. Crack! He’s black! Crack!
People act like “oh my GOD!” when everybody knows someone that’s done some coke in their lives. Just because they haven’t told you doesn’t mean they haven’t done it. Our two most recent presidents have basically admitted to using it.
Sometimes I think people need to get out of the house a little more.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Yeah, I know friends of mine that still dabble in coke
and I’m not around them when they do.
The big difference is….they’re not the manager of a major league baseball team.
The last two presidents, to our knowledge, didn’t do coke when they were in office period, muchless during important times of their terms.
The fact that Washington is black has nothing whatsoever to do with my wanting him fired for this. At what level do we forget about the color of his skin and judge him like we judge a white manager?
He mangles the language like no other manager I’ve ever seen but we’re not supposed to talk about that because, well , that might seem racist. Then we sit here and watch rampant managerial dumbassery but we’re not supposed to say anything because that might seem racist.
I’m fairly tough with Josh Hamilton. The last time I checked, he’s a big white boy. I’m sick of his excuses and I’m beginning to think this boy (look I can call him “boy” without sounding like a racist) has a lot of con in him. It’s time for him to STFU and start hitting.
My problem with Ron Washington is that he’s not very smart with his decisions (on and off the field) and a coke problem isn’t going to improve his competence as the manager of my favorite baseball team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I know you want to keep hitting that one talking point...
but “coke problem” is not an accurate description of the information we have.
I think the way upper management has handled the situation, especially coupled with how they handled the Ponson and Padilla situations, projects an image of a firm but forgiving methodology that makes a certain amount of sense.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I'm not calling him an addict, ben. That would have played itself out before now.
It would appear, however, that the manager of our team has sought solace in cocaine when confronted with stress and anxiety and I consider that to be a coke problem.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You know...
I’ve started to get a much clearer picture of you during this whole Washington imbroglio. You’ve got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass. You talk up leadership and either show so little knowledge of it as to demonstrate you’re full of shit or you’re willfully dishonest about what leadership is as to demonstrate you’re full of shit.
Henry V, at Agincourt, faced 30,000 French, mostly knights, with less than 10,000 English, mostly archers. At that time, nobles were not at much risk in battle… they were worth more alive than dead. But Henry was a pious man, and told his men that he faced the same risks they faced… that he would leave the field either victorious or dead. That’s leadership: when your men know that you will take the same risks that they will take, that you will bear the same burdens. The words being said by his men seem to indicate that Wash is a leader, you’re benighted bitch-sessions notwishstanding.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Mar 19, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Really?
What kind of leadership was Wash showing and how much belief did this team have after they found out about Wash’s coke problem last September?
I see an 8-15 record and an unexplainable, unimaginable 1 run in 5 game streak at the most important time of year.
Players can talk all they want about how they have Wash’s back on this but the wonderful thing about the Great Game is that no matter how much talent you have, dysfunction will play itself out between the lines more times than not.
Wash has one option-win, with no hiccups.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Rangers win the World Series this year
Does Wash become a good leader?
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll have to see how it plays out, bg.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't agree.
You can’t base leadership entirely on results.
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
There are too many variables in your
question, bg.
Teams can win in spite of their manager.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
No, because he'll still be black.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Were you Marion Berry's
campaign manager?
We’re not supposed to talk about him smoking crack because that might seem racist.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it's because
there is less then zero evidence that he smoked crack
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This ship has sailed
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
here, i fixed it
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
All ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
Tiger Woods has shown, more than anyone
that you can have hidden, extremely dysfunctional aspects of your private life not affect your professional success.
Everyone is human
The performance of Ron Washington as manager of the team
and the performance of Tiger Woods have been quite different in terms of quality, wouldn’t you say?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Quite different
But, I think
RW’s poor performance is unrelated to his cocaine use
and
Tiger’s success is unrelated to his sexual deviance
Thats NOT what she said
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
Did anyone see this by the way,
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 19, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I will never be able to look at him the same again...
…just like how I can’t look at Kobe the same after reading his testimony a couple weeks ago…
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Its actually easy to explain that 1 run in 5 game streak
You’re just too dumb and far too into trashing Wash to figure out that a team with offensive problems is going to not score a lot of runs when their best hitter is out for the entire month. But I’m sure that the manager doing coke a few months earlier was the reason and not something actually logical and believable.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Actually easy to explain?
That was the first time that happened in MLB since 1964.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
blah blah blah
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
There was a pretty open consensus...
that Buck (who seems to be of the “blood and guts, rub some dirt on it” school you’re fond of) wasn’t popular with The Room. And they sure as fuck didn’t win with him.
Then you’ve got Wash, who the players seem to like, and has steadily improving records. What’s your problem with this guy again?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
x
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Buck vs. Wash
Winning percentages as Ranger manager:
Drill Sergeant Buck: 492
Dumbfuck Crackhead: 496
So what does it say about Showalter that he can’t out-manage a retarded coke fiend?
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
What did they do to Buck, stoner?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Well done
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
That is so....
fucking nice that the players “like” Wash.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
This is why I say you've got an alligator mouth and hummingbird ass.
Yeah, I see what you’re doing there. Who cares if they “like” Wash, as long as they respect him, and fear him, and pray they don’t lose? And, see, in my mind, you’re trying to project the image of that guy: the hardass. But you’re not a hardass, you’re a silly fucking banty rooster strutting about. Who gives a fuck about that?
Men don’t follow banty roosters, Josey.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Mar 19, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Quit thinking too much, Little Bro.
It comes down to this…I don’t want my favorite major league team to have a manager who can’t turn down coke on game day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
He can turn down coke on game day.
We seem to have substantial proof that he turned down coke on game day for half a season.
What we do know is that on one particular night he didn’t turn down coke. And by reports he went to his superiors to throw himself on his sword, and they, for whatever reason, decided against that course.
You know what I don’t respect? Drunken philanderers. I bet there’s a few guys in a clubhouse here or there that would agree with me there. But I bet there’s plenty of major league managers who “can’t turn down” drinking and philandering on game day.
See you’re adopting this moralistic preening as if this particular mistake is somehow holier than any other mistake. That’s nonsense. He fucked up, management forgave him for it, the team says they’re behind him, and that’s the long and short of it.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
The only reason the stupid sonofabitch
turned himself in is because MLB showed up with a cup to pee in.
And while management may have forgiven him, now that everybody knows the fans are not going to forgive him unless he wins, this year, with no hiccups.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The fans weren't going to forgive him...
unless he wins this year, anyway. Have you not seen how Wash is viewed around here? The cocaine had nothing to do with it, just like the cocaine really isn’t an issue with you, so much as a prop for your Wash bit.
And, yeah, the “stupid sonofobitch” turned himself in because he got tested, but I didn’t hear any stories about Palmiero turning himself in because he got tested, or McGuire, or ARod. Certainly you agree there’s been more dignity to how this was handled than Clemens or ARod?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I don't care about Raffy, McGwire and AROd.
They don’t manage my favorite team but the effort to muddy up the water is duly noted.
Wash wasn’t / isn’t viewed favorably but that’s because he doesn’t put out a very good product.
Now that we found out he does blow…he better freaking win with no hiccups.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Okay...
so you’re acknowledging that the coke makes no difference. He’s not viewed favorably, he needed to win anyway. Hell, he needed to win anyway because that’s his fucking job. So what the fuck are you going on about this coke shit for?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
No, I'm not acknowleding the coke makes no difference.
In fact, quite the opposite.
It explains so much and it also slams the fucking door.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
It slams the fucking door?
What does that even mean? He still works here. If they have a bad season, he won’t work here anymore. But that was the case with or without the coke.
You say, the fans won’t forgive unless he has a winning season with no hiccups. The fans already don’t like him. What is it, exactly, are you alleging as having changed?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I guess what I don't get...
is what is it about cocaine specifically that has certain people so rankled?
Sure, it’s illegal and that’s not so good. It probably shows a lack of judgment considering his position, but the same could be said about many substances that can be harmful, that are legal, such as alcohol, if used stupidly.
But man, it’s not like a couple of lines of coke here and there is affecting anything about his job performance. I don’t want to be all “drugs are cool!” but if anything, if you’re going to do a drug as a baseball manager, coke seems like a pretty decent choice considering it just makes you ultra-alert and energetic without any real hallucinogenic properties and not much of a come-down.
What is it specifically about cocaine that has pushed people over the edge here?
by ghostofErikThompson on Mar 19, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you just cutting and pasting this crap
Who the fuck cares what you think. Especially, who in the Rangers front office cares what you think. If there are hiccups, but the Rangers win the world Series, I’m right there dancing in the fucking parade.
Just win baby.
Hiccup, fart, shit the bed if you have to, just bring home the bacon…….
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
one of my favorite quotes
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England, now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhood’s cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
by sunlegend54 on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
In your definitions
Does RW have a coke-problem if he’s tests negative thrice a week all next season?
Recreational use is not indicative of a problem
The guy who gets drunk on New Years Eve and St. Paddy’s day but no other time has a drinking “problem”? What Wash did was illegal and that’s about it. When LaRussa got busted for a DUI, passed out in a running car is more troublesome than Wash but I guarantee you think LaRussa’s a great manager.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
No, I actually think TLR is a little overrated.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
There's really no legitimate argument to be made
That what they did wasn’t at least equally as bad.
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
As mentioned earlier,
I would have fired TLR if he had a coke problem.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
For all we know
La Russa has a drinking and driving problem.
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
OK
So you’re cool with a manager who gets so drunk he passes out in a running car but not a manager who failed one drug test and has passed 3-times-a-week testing since then. Got it.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
That pretty much sums it up
after the past 3 days, he’s made that very clear
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 19, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
God you're an idiot sometimes.
This has been consuming you for the past 48 hours…that is sad.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Just sweep it under the rug
and like it’s not a big deal? What the hell, Wash was in So Cal and thought it might be a great time to do blow….why is that a big deal?
It’s a big deal because no other major league manager has failed a drug test because he did blow. You know why? You can’t be a good manager AND have a coke problem.
It’s a big deal because This Thing fell on it’s ass once again when it mattered the most.
It’s a big deal because Ron Washington isn’t known for making good sound decisions on the baseball field and he’s one of the biggest problems holding This Thing back.
It’s a big deal because we’re not going anywhere with this idiot managing This Thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Feel better?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I won't "feel better"
until the crackhead is no longer the manager of the team.
He’s a part of the problem and nowhere close to the solution.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
crackhead....lol
They should name a ride at an amusement park after you….“Josey Wales’ Ride of Absolutes.”
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Wash
Yeah, I think I heard he’s going to be in an upcoming episode of “Breaking Bad.”
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
Rob,
Do you think Barack should be fired because he inhaled?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Better yet, what if he was snorting coke
before or after meeting with the JCS during a crisis?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Obama
A President doing drugs on the job is far different from a baseball manager doing the same thing.
Last time I checked, baseball managers don’t make life and death decisions.
And yeah, I’d probably want Obama impeached if it came out that he’d been doing hard drugs while in office. Same goes for members of Congress.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
WHY WON'T YOU PLAY MY GAME!!!!!!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Josey the same could be said about you
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Just letting you know champ
You don’t know if another manager has tested positive or not. These tests are to remain confidential. For Wash it didn’t work out, but there could be dozens of coaches that have tested positive for all we know.
It really hasn’t been observed that he has “a coke problem”. He’s done it once and has been clean since.
Wash’s coke really didn’t play as big a role in the thing bombing in Sept. as injury, CD, Hank, Hammy, and a tired bunch of pitchers did.
Agree. Slightly. Too much importance on how much a manager influences a teams W-L.
I’ll fix that for you:
It’s a big deal because we’re not going anywhere with this idiot
managingowning This Thing.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I'd bet that ...
Pete Rose knows what a rail of Columbia’s finest looks (and tastes) like
Probably before Billy Martin’s time, but …
Bobby V?
Useless guessing – but chances are that list is longer than any of the holier-than-thou would guess
Come to think of it
didn’t the Dowd Report say that Rose was doing Coke while managing the Reds during the 80’s.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Doesn't seem to follow
You can’t be a good manager AND have a coke problem.
Why not? The best golfer int he world was a sex addict, Churchill was a pretty ragin’ alchie, Clinton was a sex fiend too, I seem to remember several successful CEO’s form the 80 ‘s snorting (DISCLAIMER: I BASE MOST OF MY OPINIONS OF THE 80’S FROM MOVIES SO THAT PROBABLY DIDN’T HAPPEN)….
Why, exactly, can’t you have a vice and do your job well?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
probably because
I fundamentally don’t care what other folks choose to put in their bodies.
My only issue in the world with this bad judgement it shows as Hamilton’s manager.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I don't really care what he does personally
but he HAS to know that a) MLB has drug testing; b) it looks really bad for anyone to be caught using whatever; and c) he’s the manager of a club with key players already associated with drug use – that’d be a headline news story.
To me, the terrible judgment is that he was willing to take that risk. To me, that is unfathomable. If some grad student with no risk of a drug test wants to do whatever, I don’t care. But when a person is in an incredibly public position that has testing and getting caught probably means losing everything you’ve worked for in your career? That is insanity to me. That is my problem with his actions.
Go Rice Owls!
Yeah,
I have the same problems with his judgement. However, I’m not worked up enough about to plan boycotts or write angry letters if they want to give him another chance.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
True nuff.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Ding
LSJ and Wails have always disliked Wash. This is just something new to harp on.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Yup
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Since you brought up grad students.
What if he didn’t think he’d be tested right after? I mean, it’s once a year testing. And it just started in 2008. So it was only a year old program. Perhaps he’s thinking, like most people would: “Ahh shucks, no way they would test me the next 3 days. Besides, I don’t even think this program is really even started up yet.”
He’s stressed out, noticed some candy on a table, was a little tipsy, and thought, no one will ever know. He may have completly forgot about the program was even going on. It was a year old and no one else to date has been caught publically. Not sure if privately they have some positive tests.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I agree and not trying to defend his choice
but he had to be thinking the odds of him being caught are zip to zilch. And also the odds of the supposedly “confidential” results of a positive test being publicized being nothing.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I pretty much agree entirely with you
It bothers me that a man who is basically on the job because of his judgment would have such awful judgment.
I’m actually surprised that he wasn’t fired, and I think that speaks volumes about Nolan and JD. I recognize that being in their position there are a lot of factors to weigh, and I won’t pretend that I know better than they do how to solve this particular problem. But this is big – you can sit here and deny it’s importance or make jokes about it, but especially from a PR point of view, this is the sort of thing a team trying to build respect with the fans needs to be very careful about. Basically, I hope JD and Nolan knew what they were doing.
Anyway, I do think that this is a very big deal, and I’m troubled by it.
Go Rice Owls!
I don't recall anyone saying they're "OK" with Wash doing this
But here’s the thing – everyone here has screwed up somehow and gotten a second chance. And everyone here has been around someone who screwed up and given that person a second chance.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Exactly.
I think most people have said they would have understood if the Rangers had fired him, but also understand the decision not to.
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Everyone here
is not a major league manager.
The major league manager is held to a higher standard.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
You keep saying that, but I’m failing to understand why.
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
A major league manager
has to command respect from the room for one. Crackheads don’t make for good authority figures.
The other biggest reason is that his decisions before and during a game need to be bought into and unquestioned by the players and to a much smaller degree, the fans. Cliche alert – everybody has to be on the same page with their leader.
A major league manager makes thousands of decisions before and during games and no matter how good he is, he’s going to be wrong quite a bit. That’s just the nature of the game. You don’t want players and fans questioning whether or not your brain is rotted from all the cocaine you’ve smoked or snorted in your life and is affecting your ability to make game-time decisions.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
x
everybody has to be on the same page with their leader.
Every. Single. Quote. from Rangers players has said they are.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course the players are all going to say they are on the
same page as their leader. Their entire focus centers around winning games and they don’t need or want distractions.
Your manager having a coke problem is a very big distraction, one of the biggest because he’s the only manager in the history of the game to fail a drug test….and it wasn’t pot or speed but mf’ing cocaine!!
The early reviews (last September) for This Thing between the lines knowing their manager had a coke problem aren’t good and we’ll soon find out what kind of effect it’s had because one of the wonderful things about the Great Game is that dysfunction will play itself out between the lines no matter how much talent you have on your team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't recall your original thought on why the Rangers failed last September having anything to do with Wash.
There was something about Chris Davis. It’s hard to remember what your beef with Davis might have been. It hasn’t been brought up all that often. </dry sarcasm>
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
It was hard to make sense of Josey's argument anyway...
because he did a lot of mumbling during that period.
Chris Davis definitely didn't help
but nobody knew the players on the team just found out their manager had a coke problem.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Round and roung we go...
Reading your posts is like watcing a dog chase his tail.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
No, boomer
I’m simply unwavering and totally unforgiving on this issue with the manager of my favorite major league team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No, boomer
I’m simply unwavering and totally unforgiving on this issue with the manager of my favorite major league team whom I’ve already decided to hate unconditionally
I don't "hate" Ron Washington. By almost all
accounts he seems to be a well-liked guy. In Oakland he was beloved, regarded as a very good 3B coach and thought of highly by the players
My problem with him is that he’s not a very good baseball manager.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine - leave it at that
There are plenty of people that think he’s a bad baseball manager. There are some (me) that suspect the players like him and play hard for him. Nothing wrong with either position.
But quit trying to portray him as a coke/crack addict.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I never said he was an addict...that would have played itself out
but I also don’t think it was his first swim in the Cocaine River and that MLB just happened to show up with a cup (DAMN THE LUCK!!).
Players may play hard for him but they don’t seem to finish out their seasons well for him when it matters (19-29 in ’08 7 8-15 in ’09).
A very short leash became much tighter.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
A 48 game stretch in 08 and 23 games in 09?
Rather arbitrary, no? I guess your definition of “finishing a season” is “whatever number of games I can use to make my point.”
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
It must be hard...
for old bigots like yourself to accept the changes that have been made in society in the last 30+ years.
I know my Grandpa has really struggled with it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Josey goes out to play
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 19, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You can't honestly call the man
a “crackhead” AND maintain you never said he was an “addict” can you? Really?
And, calling someone a “crackhead”, with absolutely zero evidence of such behavior, is certainly support for the proposition that you “hate” him, or at least have some unexplainable bias.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Mar 19, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Bullshit you haven't labeled him as an addict
You’ve called him a crackhead and said he has a cocaine “problem”. Your words, not mine.
Like I said, if you think if he’s a bad manager some people won’t disagree. But to tie one failed drug test to that is idiotic and you have no reason to do so. Hank Aaron used greenies, which were illegal, and LaRussa could have killed someone driving drunk. Where’s the similar outrage?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Do you have those links that Hank used greenies
and that TLR killed anybody?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Again
It’s not fair to judge La Russa on the lack of consequences and not do the same to Washington.
by brettgardner on Mar 19, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be calling for Wash to be
fired if he blew a .092 into the breathalyzer during spring training.
If TLR gets busted for doing coke at his age the week of a big game, gonzo.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
This is circular logic, Josey.
And as near as I can figure, begging the question.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
x
Hank Aaron admitted to experimenting with greenies in his book “I Had a Hammer.” I’m not even going to respond to the LaRussa question because it’s fucking stupid.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
The dead horse is in this thread already
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
If that stuff rotts the brain and causes bad decisions
Does that mean you’ve been huffing gas this whole time?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Go ahead and play the Yo Momma Card.
You know you want to….so get it out of the way.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 19, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothing liek a good Yo Momma joke
Ok, Josey, Yo Momma snorts coke off of ho’s tits…..
Happy?
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Let the healing begin Pops.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
What you are saying
applies to every single corporate executive at the VP level (maybe even the Director level) and higher. There are hundreds of large corporations, and thousands of top executives. You are saying that not one of any of those ever did coke and was still successful….. Obviously you spent the 80’s living under a rock.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Are you implying
That me bombing out of Comp Sci I then retaking it and a professional leader doing coke are on the same level?
Yah, cause less revenue is exactly what this team needed!
Yay!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Geez, German made 2 errors at short in the B game as well?
He can pretty much kiss whatever chances he had of making the team goodbye, I think.
Gonna be interesting to see who we get when we spin the waiver wire UTL man wheel at the end of the month…
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
Brown was always pretty much a shoe-in, I think
With his track record against lefties and ability to play 1B/3B. All he had to do was put on a good SSS show, and he has (so far).
I don’t think the Rangers are gonna roll with Limpdick Arias as their backup though. They should be able to do better and they know it.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
Be nice if we could've kept Omar around.....
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
yeah, and signed Nick Johnson
and Troy Glaus
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
and traded for Pujols
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Just throwing out things I know Vazquez was talked about among us, but what about Cat?
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
minor league deal with the Mets?
i think…
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I know the pirates DON"T want Vazquez back, but would he be that bad.
I remember he was a decent player, but Pittsburgh can do funny things to people.
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
He doesn't play anywhere outside of 1B these days
Or at least he definitely shouldn’t be.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
we should pick up Dellucci while we're at it...
he’s still available, no?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I think they end up obtaining another SS
via trade or waiver wire. Maybe he ends up being the UIF or stashed in AAA. The Rangers certainly need a true SS to back up Andrus. Who is slated to be the OKC SS?
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
Me too. I hope it's Nick Punto.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
It might be handy
For Khalil Greene to stabilize and tell JD he’s ready to play ball.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Mar 19, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
i shuddered for a half second when I saw Inglett playing SS for the Brewers last night
what could have been….
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
lol
He can play SS as well as German can play SS
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Mar 19, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
we have cut ties with that guy for good. The Rangers pounced on the chance to not pay that contract.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
So are CJ and BMac still in front of Harrison for those two rotation spots?
I got chastised last week for considering Harrison’s successful ST and BMac’s underwhelming one. I was promptly corrected about the SSS and ST training results not mattering.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
The thing is...
we’re all pretty aware that spring training results are likely mirages, and think about sample size issues, but the team probably doesn’t weigh these as heavily.
I still think
Harrison having options and BMac not having them weighs in BMacs favor.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
this is the only rationale I can get behind
because it’s pretty likely Bmac (knock on wood) goes down and Harry ends up here in short order anyway
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
The option thing is likely to play a big role
but that bums me out a bit. Give me the younger lefty that throws 5 pitches, lost 30 lbs, touches mid 90’s, and struck out 8 in 4 innings. Sure, injuries will occur and a spot will open up, but c’mon.
I am pretty excited about Harrison.
I've gotten excited about Harrison before...
..and I am excited again…but listen to me Matt Harrison…this is the last time.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yeah, I wouldn't lose much sleep
with Harrison not getting a chance.
I think the odds of 1 of CJ, BMac, or Lewis needing replacement by memorial day are fairly high.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Lewis.
He’s in the rotation, and I would bet even if he struggles the first month, he’s given another month if not until the ASB to iron things out.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
fixed
Hunter said he’s never had problems withhiseating ribs before.
Figures TR stays in Sun City
They have some pretty crazy deed restrictions that are aimed at keeping the city nice and old.
Under the Fair Housing Amendments Act and its revisions, at least one person living in a residence must be no younger than 55 years old.
Under the Restricted Zoning Ordinance no one younger than 19 may be a permanent resident of Sun City. Minors may visit, however, for no more than 90 days.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
college town, eh?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Yeah, I've heard about that before. Seems about right for TR.
Though I sometimes wonder if he’s one of those old guys that feels the need to sing and shout poetry when he’s drunk in the middle of the night…
Sun City
I’ve stayed there on a couple of occasions- my aunt & uncle used to own a house there- and those old folks have it pretty sweet.
Where else can you drive around your neighborhood on a golf cart?
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
Oh yah
They’ve totally hit a homerun for what they were trying to do.
Plus it looks cool from the air:
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking that too,
He switched the opponents in the games, said it was Orioles in the A game and Brewers in the B game. Maybe he was sampling a little of the brewer’s-art.
I laughed at...
… the reference to drinking beers “out of the trunk of Kevin’s SVU.” Kevin has a Special Victim’s Unit? And it has a trunk?
Simple typo, I know, but funny since people (including me, on occasion) get that acronym switched up the other way when referring to the “Law & Order” variation.
Overall, I enjoyed the article. Quite an entertaining read that makes a Spring Training trip seem appealing.
That dude is selling Old Style
Awesome. What’s the matter, PBR too highbrow for the spring training crowd?
maybe
Those emailers can leave the country too, since we’ve got a cokehead prez.
by chase182 on Mar 19, 2010 9:36 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Supposedly
But Barack said in an interview that he smoked weed when he was younger. And inhaled, because “that was the point.”
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Mar 19, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
x
I was in his book where he admitted to using illegal drugs.
by GregoryM on Mar 19, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
that could have been a good story...
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
pot's not a drug
it’s breakfast
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
x
In his book he admitted to both using marijuana and cocaine.
by GregoryM on Mar 19, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Part of me is convinced
That a trade is coming. RIght now, the rotation is likely Harden-Feldman-Lewis-Harrison-McCarthy. Moscoso and Nippert are probably semi-capable 5th starters of their own right, and hopefully Tommy Hunter doesn’t have TOS. Longterm, the team also sees Feliz and Holland as starters.
That’s too much talent to waste in AAA or relegate to relief work. It’s hard to believe another team couldn’t find a real use for some of our guys and give us a fair bit of value.
no mention of CJ?
Org. seems pretty “high” on him.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Mar 19, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ba dum pssh!
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I don't know what to think of CJ
I think the bottom line there is that we know he’s an excellent setup man; we have no idea how effective he’d be as a starter. Guys like BMac, Harrison, Holland, and Feliz have ALWAYS been seen as starters.
If another team sees CJ’s spring and is convinced he can be a starter for them, I’d have no problem at all dealing him for the right player. But I’m not sure he’s a fit in this roto.
by Conjunction on Mar 19, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I've always felt like
CJ lets his head get in the way too much.
Not that pitchers shouldn’t think about what they’re doing, but CJ seems to take it to an extreme.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Hunter
I don’t think there’s anything to worry about regarding TOS. An intercostal strain means he probably just over-rotated on a pitch and pulled a rib cage muscle. TOS typically presents with numbness in the affected arm. If we see that, then we are in trouble.
"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM
by Desert Ranger on Mar 19, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course...
we’ve apparently got a team physician who gets a TOS bonus.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Lolz
This has to be true!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Video of Harrison's 8 K's
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
good lord
he’s back
"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 19, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm not happy
with warsh being a coke head, as i’m sure none of us are. but give the guy another chance. once he fails again, let him go.
I like it
needs an “h” in Chris, though
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
You should put the REM song Orange Crush if you could, that would be awesome
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
I like this.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Makes me wonder if Warsh relapsed
Hi-ohhhh.
by BEW on Mar 19, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
When we signed Vlad
I said that if we started him in RF over Nelly, I’d do something DIrkatron-approved.
I’m willing to give babies everywhere a spring training exemption, but if this pops up again, punting will happen.
by Conjunction on Mar 19, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
With the Hunter injury
there are a couple of scenarios now where we would have two lefties in the rotation, and that might end up being a good thing. Those scenarios being Wilson and Harrison winning the 4th and 5th spots, or Lewis being ousted and 3 4 and 5 being Wilson, Bmac and Harrison.
Lewis will be in the rotation.
It was guaranteed to him when he signed. I would put Wilson, Lewis and harrison in the 3-4-5 rotation spots right now. BMac can go to the bullpen and Hunter to the DL.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
He's only guaranteed to start the season in the rotation
He’s not guaranteed anything beyond that. This isn’t a difficult concept.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 19, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
If Lewis is ousted...
…what do they do with him?
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 19, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd imagine
release him or move him to the bullpen, which is hard to fathom.
Whether he does well or suck, folks need to get used to seeing Colby for a while.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Anyone else wonder why there's been no
Holland to the bullpen talk? Maybe I’ve just missed it, but it seems like there’s this acceptance that Feliz is going to the pen and Holland is going to the rotation in AAA. I think he would be better in the pen than McCarthy and he’s a lefty, so, especially if Wilson is in the rotation, we could use a lefty in the pen.
See: Darren Oliver
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Mar 19, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Difference:
Holland has been mediocre in the pen, so it’s more advantageous to let someone else give us those innings and let Holland develop.
We can’t afford to let Feliz develop as a starter in AAA, because he’s too valuable dominating late-innings—so the theory goes
After seeing Holland's #'s with men on 2nd or 3rd I don't want him near the pen anytime soon.
He’s a starter, I just can’t see him ever being a bullpen guy.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
You guys probably talked about this in the game thread last night
but I agree with Tom Grieve that it was pretty huge to see what Hamilton did with that fastball that was on the upper and inner part of the plate (really, most likely out of the strikezone). That is a game changer for him if he can do that with legitimate fastballs again, particularly if he can lay off of balls down.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 19, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions
i agree with this...
my only fear is the three HRs he’s hit this ST have all been first pitches. (well, i think at least 2 of them…)
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
come on man
that’s nitpicking. did you see how far that homer went???? I dont care if its the first pitch or 13th pitch as long as its gone
"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 19, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
didn't say it was a problem...
said it was my fear.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
That was pretty awesome
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Yeah. I noticed it was a high fastball from a lefty before I noticed how far it went.
Hamilton looks really comfortable right now.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
x
aandro Left oblique strain for Tommy Hunter <a href=“http:// ”http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/foul_territory/2010/03/left-oblique-strain-for-tommy-hunter.html" target="_blank">http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/foul_territory/2010/03/left-oblique-strain-for-tommy-hunter.html " target="new">link
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
link fail
link Left oblique strain for Tommy Hunter
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Mar 19, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Better than the intercostal thing, which can have a longer recovery.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
OT-Saw that Adrian Gonzalez is willing to take deferred money.
Why don’t more players do this? What are the pros and cons of doing such?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Bobby Bonilla will be on the Mets payroll through
2025 or something crazy like that.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Well
It is simply a financial decision.
Would you rather have $10 million now, or would you rather have $5 million now and $5 million paid out over the next 10 years at, say, 5% interest?
I think agents like doing the deferred money thing because the money is often deferred at rates much less than what the team could borrow for, and thus a contract with an announced value of, say, $100 million could really be worth more like $90-95 million if you present value it using a market interest rate.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 19, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Parks with a ton of notes from yesterday
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
This discussion will get lost here, but I'll ask anyway.
How did the Rangers pick up Kelvin Arrendell from the Reds? His numbers weren’t all that bad with the Reds.
Oh wait. He used to be a hitter, and he hit .200 rather than holding hitters to .200.
Cool, another conversion project.
Also, really happy to see those positive comments on Sardinas’ glove and speed.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Also, eagerly awaiting Cole's notes from the AA/AAA game.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Peralta's got some projection, no?
6’4", 170 lbs according to baseball-reference. Throughs mid-upper 80s, but it seems there is the possibility that might bump up to low 90s as he fills out.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Thank you much, KH
…between this and the video link above.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Mar 19, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I'm one of the few here...
who thought that BGL would make the rotation, but this isn’t how I thought it would happen. Of course it’s nice to know that when there’s an injury the team doesn’t have to look far to fill he hole. As things are now I think the rotation will be Harden, Feldman, Wilson, Lewis, Harrison. I think McCarthy makes the team, but starts in the ’pen.
I also think that both Holland and Feliz start the year in OKC. I would rather Feliz be in the Rangers ‘pen to limit his innings and help the big league club, but for some reason I think they’re going to send him down to work on the offspeed stuff.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I agree with everything
BMac could be the long man in the pen and Nippert could assume the role Feliz had last year.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
And now for something almost as funny as this thread
Naked man arrested after descending from freeway billboard in Dallas <—-with video :o
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
So is Tom Verducci a racist?
“I was just shocked. It doesn’t make any sense, I don’t know who is buying that it was the first time that he tried it. Think about this, if you are gullible enough to believe that, he’s 57 years old, he’s never tried it, he’s in the middle of the season and his team is fighting for first place. He just signed a contract extension with the Texas Rangers. You are a major league manager and you are 57 years old and now you are going to make the decision, knowing that you are subject to drug testing by the way, but now you are going to try it? You talk about bad decision-making, but this is the guy who is the face of the franchise. That’s what managers are. No one in your franchise is out in front of the media more than your manager, and that’s the kind of decision-making skills that he has.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Not sure
but we know you are
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 19, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because I don't think it is
a good thing if the manager of my favorite team has a coke problem?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
no... bc he tested positive for cocaine once
and you have labeled him crackhead Homes with a crackpipe
Wait, do you mean to say that you don't think a 57 year old man is likely to try hard drug for the first time in his life?
Dang, I’d’ve thought you would have said something about that by now
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I have stayed out of the drug wars above and
RW’s situation. However, I don’t think any of us would be surprised to see the headline “Ron Washington stepping down from Rangers, to enter rehab.”
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
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