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That Rudy Gamble guy looks like a Crackhead
So I got offended and stopped reading the article, sorry.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I'm offended by the word crackhead
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I'm offended by the word offended
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Why is everyone so defensive?
"We pitched, we caught the ball, we ran the bases, we had good days where we out-fundamentalized the other team." - Ronald Washington
by Section 339 on Mar 20, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
D-FENSE... D-FENSE
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
They need to check out LSB community projections.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Comparing Matt Wieters rookie season to Chris Davis's implosion last year...
Wow.
That’s fucking insane on so many levels.
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Well
wOBA’s: Wieters .330, Davis .311.
Wieters managed to provide literally league average offense from a below-average offensive position in his rookie season, while Davis would’ve been the worst first baseman in baseball if it weren’t for Aubrey Huff and Hank Blalock.
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Did you read what the guy wrote?
He was talking about expectations going into the season from a fantasy perspective.
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't make it any less of a stupid perspective.
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I don't see why
A stupid statement is any less stupid because it’s supposed to be from a certain perspective.
Because even from a fantasy standpoint, I doubt there’s any way Wieters was as bad as Davis was.
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I mean
You’re just showing a profound lack of understand. Context matters.
People drafted Wieters really high because of the expectations. Same with Davis. In so doing, they bypassed options that certainly could have helped them a lot more.
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
So
Because Wieters hurt a bunch of peoples fantasy teams in an apparently similar way to what Chris Davis did, this gives them the excuse to say that he was as bad as Chris Davis?
I just think that’s dumb.
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Its fantasy baseball
If you don’t get that, then there is nothing to argue.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
He didn't say he was as bad
He said
Aside from perhaps Matt Wieters, there wasn’t a player who failed to live up to their huge hype than Chris Davis.
And since it’s a fantasy site, it’s a safe bet to assume he was couching that in terms of fantasy.
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a hell of a sentence, though. You gotta give them that.
I think we can all agree the writing/editing on that site as awesomer than butt shit.
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by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions
As opposed to regular shit?
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
They're only talking about fantasy baseball here, nothing else.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Relative to the excitement surrounding the two, the disappointment is comparable
Wieters was going to be Joe Mauer combined with Chuck Norris. Davis was going to be an elite first baseman. Both fell massively short of the expectation.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 20, 2010 9:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope someday, someone, let's me in on the Wieters joke.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
I've just heard for a while now that
Mickey Mantle has been reincarnated, and he’ll be playing C for the Baltimore Orioles. From what I’ve seen, minor league video and last year in the bigs, I’m pretty meh.
Than I see the Chuck Norris-like jokes about the guy and wonder, am I being Punk’d by the entire baseball community? Is he legit, overhyped, or the proverbial ‘a little of both’?
If he turned out to be the next Ted Simmons, that would be an incredible career. Anything less, and it seems he’s set up as a bust. I dunno, I’m just missing something.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
This might explain some of it.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Oh, yeah, there's the list.
If Matt Wieters ends up like all but a couple guys on his list of comps, he’ll be a very good catcher.
If he ends up like a few of them, he’ll be the best catcher who ever lived.
Yes, that would explain a lot.
I’m not a projections guy, so I never saw those. A lot to live up to, especially from minors’ numbers(Nice as they are).
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Whoah, wait.
Really? You think Wieters’ MiLB track record is meh? You should go back and check out the careers of people who hit like him. Almost all of them would be Hall of Famers if they were catchers; I’ll see if I can find the list. He comps to great, great players. He’s a switch hitter with amazing plate discipline and good power. He’d have been the top prospect in baseball if he was a first baseman just based on how good a hitter he is. He is a catcher.
Then, PECOTA came out and projected him to be the best player in the American League as a rookie if given a full season. CHONE, conservatively, projected him to be near All-Star level as a rookie with a full year (and his rates weren’t too short of that). But he’s still comped at a level prospects are rarely at. Nothing about his track record is meh.
And neither was his rookie year. It fell short of his projections, but he still put up nearly a league-average season in limited time as a rookie, that’s good.
The jokes came because of how hilarious his PECOTA projections were, and that was just for fun.
Naw, the track record is pretty damn awesome.
The talk/projections is what gets me. I’m just going off eye test, take it for what it is, on my judgment.
Combine the hype with the jokes, and that’s where I was confused. Now I see where the jokes came from, and they were warranted. Major league baseball is a different animal.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
If you're talking about disappointment from young players
I think Wieters is comparable to Davis. Davis didn’t have the expectations that Wieters had going into last season. Davis had his doubters and also wasn’t expected to be a top 1B in the league. Wieters was supposed to come up and begin dominating the league and doing a Joe Mauer impression right away.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
x
Wieters was supposed to come up and begin dominating the league and doing a Joe Mauer impression right away.
If that was really the expectation, it was an unreasonable one. Wieters was overhyped as a prospect, true, but if someone honestly thinks his season was anywhere near as disappointing as Chris Davis’s, they’re pretty stupid.
Of course, I should probably remember this is a fantasy baseball site that we’re talking about here, and fantasy baseball moguls analyze things in relation to their stupid teams.
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That was the hype that was around Wieters from everyone
It wasn’t a matter of if, it was just a matter of when he would come up and establish himself as a top 3 catcher. When you look at what Davis was expected to do and his resulting fantasy stats (the crappy OBP is far less important here), he still managed to give 21 HRs, 59 RBI, and 48 runs through 2/3 of a season. Even with the crappy BA, that’s still not terrible. Blalock last season was a similar case, his HRs helped give him some fantasy value while his actual on the field value sucked.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Yeah it wasn't restricted to fantasy, Wieters was universally acclaimed to be the imminent reincarnation of Chuck Norris at the catcher spot
So because of that, his season was a massive disappointment. Hence the not illogical comp to the massively disappointing Davis season.
Surely the ceiling of the two is different, but the disappointment is similar.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 20, 2010 9:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From a non-fantasy perspective, I don't think Wieters was a massive disappointment.
Most of the “hype” around Wieters was for fun based around the hilariousness of his PECOTA projection. No one actually thought he should reach that or he’d be a failure.
I’ll bet you if you asked every single person who hyped Wieters, if you asked them if they’d consider league-average offense from his first season to be a massive disappointment, I’ll bet you almost all of them would say, “no, that’s pretty good.”
He wasn’t that far from his CHONE projections, btw. Mostly just the playing time fell short.
Maybe it was unreasonable, that's not the point.
A lot of the David hype was unreasonable, too. The point was, they both fell short, and Wieters is the only person who was arguably on Davis’s level.
Wieters wasn't overhyped as a prospect.
Or at least you don’t know that yet.
Calm down.
Young catcher almost never come in and light the world on fire and then sex crime it.
He’s gonna be fine.
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by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 4:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Why Lewis over Feldman?
Are you that worried about Feldman’s K totals to take Lewis over him from a fantasy perspective?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
The only thing
Feldman can produce in fantasy is wins, and that’s not a guarantee.
This is assuming, of course, 5×5-7×7 (i.e. not super advanced statistics).
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course
I don’t think Lewis can produce anything, either.
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
If you don't think Feldman will decline much from last season
You’re looking at getting wins with a good ERA and WHIP to make up for the fewer Ks. And that’s if you think Feldman won’t see his Ks improve this season like they did as the season went along last season. I can see favoring Lewis to get more Ks, but I don’t get taking him over Feldman in ERA, WHIP, and wins.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I don't either.
But I guess it depends on the league. If you’re in a deep league with a lot of smart players, then maybe taking a flyer on Feldman late in the draft is smart.
I just know that in the leagues I’m in, I don’t have any room for a 4-4.2 ERA, decent WHIP, and relatively little Ks or K/9s.
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
A better bargain?
Feldman isn’t going to sneak up on anybody after having a pretty solid ’09.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Well
I mentioned Lewis because a lot of the projection systems have him as the best starter on the team.
If the projection systems are right, then he’s a quality fantasy option, and he’s not someone that is going to be going high on a lot of boards.
So from that standpoint, Lewis is a lot more worthy of discussing, fantasy-wise, than Feldman, who doesn’t seem to have that sort of outlier-TORP potential.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 20, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
On the other hand
Frankenstein Cuban has had an excellent view of the cellar all season.
: )
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, playing fantasy baseball with exclusively Rangers fans
is going to make it much more difficult to get good Rangers sleepers in a draft.
Well...
Holland likely headed to OKC and Feliz back to the ’pen.
I really though Feliz could be headed down with Derek, but I think Wash will fight hard to keep him in the ’pen for now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Boo
On both counts. Holland should at least be in the rotation race till the end, he’s done nothing to take himself out of it and he’s probably the best pitcher of the 5th starter options.
Feliz has been erratic all spring, and probably needs to work on things down in OKC.
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I don't have a problem with either decision.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Hopefully it won't matter
But I just hate seeing one of our better pitchers sent down for no apparent reason other than he tweaked his knee the first week of spring training.
Not that Harrison hasn’t all but locked down the Kam Loe award, but Spring Training is so stupid sometimes.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
You don't think there's any difference between Matt Harrison and Kam Loe?
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not comparing him to Kam Loe
I’m saying he’s won the Kam Loe award, the Surprise AZ version of the Cy Young.
Which may or may not mean squat during the regular season.
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I don't have a big problem.
But, especially if Hunter’s not going to be there to start the season, I’d prefer to have Holland in the rotation. Whatever, hopefully if he’s going to be as good as I expect, it will start with him being that good at AAA, and hopefully then he won’t be in AAA long.
I've just come to terms with the fact
that we’ll start out with the most veteran rotation possible (with some pretty talented arms as candidates) and have one of the best AAA rotations in the league ready to come up and fill any potential hole. We might not get our ace talent right away, but I absolutely love the depth that the Rangers currently have.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.
However, if Holland isn’t pitching in the majors by the end of June, I will be protesting at RBiA.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 22, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Some time in AAA won't hurt Holland
Granted, his defense didn’t help him today but, he had 0 Ks. Harry and CJ have simply pitched better this spring and will be ready come opening day.
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
Of course
since he was a longshot for the rotation anyway, he had to do much more than “nothing to take himself out of it”.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
And he's done, well...nothing
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
What about your boy Mendoza?
No options, IIRC, and no slot in the bully…
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See
I keep going back and forth on this but I probably wouldn’t trade Moscoso for Hu. I would do McCarthy for Hu but I don’t know how much the Dodgers value Hu. I think right now Moscoso has more value than McCarthy.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Anyone who is shocked by this
hasn’t been paying attention.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
OT: On FSN Live Boxing
the dude’s cup started to fall down his leg and they had the stop the fight while he had the trainer put it back on in the middle of the ring!
In other news
Grant has a story up about Nolan and JD. I always find it odd when people say things like this:
If there was anything constructive for the Rangers to take out of the Washington admission, it was that the nice Jewish boy from Queens, who never even played high school baseball, and the Texas-born-and-bred Hall of Famer found out they weren’t such strangers after all.
Is being Jewish really so different that it warrants that juxtaposition? Struck me kinda funny.
Sounds more like something Galloway would've written, really
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by lonestarJon on Mar 20, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
it is, actually
“nice jewish boy from queens” has its own connotation that neither nice nor queens nor new york would by itself
""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD
That is kind of strange
Some better wording could have been used there.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Not sure, but I'm really craving Deli News this morning
Damn commercials on Elf’s show.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
oh man, I used to live right off Campbell.....
I used to freaking destroy that joint….
Denton doesn’t have a good deli, now I want a big fat pastrami sandwich (haven’t eaten in 2 days..I’m going to eff something up today)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Get to feeling better!
(did you get my email?)
I’m not in a driving mood this morning, or I would so run over there.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Yeah, haven't even gotten to it yet.
don’t hate.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Since nobody cares about my fantasy team...
I failed my draft. Being forced into drafting douche face at #9 pretty much sums things up.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
You had to draft Michael Young at #9?
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by lonestarJon on Mar 20, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not so bad.
I always try to get C, 2B, or SS with my first pick.
by brettgardner on Mar 20, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I give up, who is douche face? I assumed it was Michael Young, but that doesn't make sense in context.
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by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I've heard it flung around, maybe a long time ago
but I was referring to Mark Teixeira.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Oh.
I thought you were referring to Pedroia.
by brettgardner on Mar 21, 2010 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with drafting him at #9
He should have a big year with Arod hitting behind him all year. Perennial slow start aside…
That's who I thought it was.
Teixeira makes much more sense than Young.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
And if anyone else can be bothered...
Hambone at #88 a good value pick?
Also, I didn’t bother drafting second base till late, so the best player out of these ones (in a deep league): Callaspo, Johnson, Hudson, Felipe Lopez?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Oh damn, hate to see a good player like that out for the year
(unless he plays for another AL West team, heh)
Nathan said he hopes to have surgery this week or next week.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
John Meloan too
Jon Meloan told the San Francisco Chronicle Saturday that he expects to undergo season-ending surgery on his right elbow next week.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
100
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
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