Twins, Joe Mauer agree to 8 year, $184 million contract extension
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 21, 2010 4:52 PM CDT
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PrintJoe Mauer and the Twins have reportedly agreed to an 8 year, $184 million contract extension that will start in 2011.
This should keep Mauer with the Twins for, if not the rest of his career, most of the rest of it.
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Hm.
Well there goes my Marcus Lemon-for-Joe Mauer and cash trade proposal I was writing up to send to T.R. Sullivan.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
and a future All-Star 2B!
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
You shut your damn mouth.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
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There’s a fair amount of risk, as one might expect with any eight year contract (especially for a catcher) but that’s just the price you have to pay when signing amazing players.
Dumb question: has a catcher ever been signed to an 8 year deal?
by oc on Mar 21, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Piazza had a 7 year deal. That's the closest I can think of.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Yeah, Morneau only has 2 years left on his contract after this
And Kubel’s gone after next year, which is a club option.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
True, but he could've gotten a lot more if he'd wanted, and we all know it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
bc of this, Mauer took one more step towards Gritticon status.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Now all he has to do is throw a hissy fit when they try to move him to 3b to make room for Ramos and his transformation will be complete...
Speaking of Ramos…. C’mon, Twins.
You don’t have a place to play him.
Trade him to us for peanuts.
It worked for us with Adrian Gonzalez and Travis Hafner.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
moving him to 3rd
gotta admit, i heard that on the radio today and i haven’t thought about that possibility before…just C, DH, or 1B.
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
You'd have to do it soon, cause a few more years at C and his knees will likely erode to the point where it's no longer feasible...
…and that may’ve already happened.
They’re not gonna move him anytime soon, so this is all just whatiffery.
I know when he was in the minors there was talk of moving him to 3rd cause they weren’t sure a guy with his size could survive long term behind the plate (Sandy Alomar is the only other really tall catcher I can think of who had a decent career), and everyone seemed pretty sure he had the tools to handle 3rd at that point.
Certainly he has the arm, and he was an excellent football/basketball player in HS, too, so I’m guessing he’s got enough coordination to handle that part of 3b.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
"gritticon"
that’s a new one.
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
I'm not even ALLOWED in Mexico
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Then how did I get THIS?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Mar 21, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad we won't have to deal with that pipe dream this winter.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
Oh wow
So you’re twelve, yes?
"We pitched, we caught the ball, we ran the bases, we had good days where we out-fundamentalized the other team." - Ronald Washington
by Pocket Ninja on Mar 21, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
it was a joke…of all the shit said here, that one rubbed you wrong?
dirkatron punting babies is cool but a crack pipe joke is just going to fuckin far?
hell im even in favor of keeping ron
Fuck Mike Estabrook
Calm. Down.
I was kidding!! I think everyone on here is 12…. Dirkatron could punt Ron’s crack babies for all I care. Didn’t mean to set you off.
"We pitched, we caught the ball, we ran the bases, we had good days where we out-fundamentalized the other team." - Ronald Washington
by Pocket Ninja on Mar 22, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
no problem man
you didnt even set me off at all…i just thought it was fuckin hilarious that you may have taken offense to that, of all things, on this board
no harm done to either side
how many crack babies does Ron have?….Dirkatron could be very busy
Fuck Mike Estabrook
The Twins are ruining baseball!!!
by LoneStarBallUser on Mar 21, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wait until we see Pujols's $300 mil contract next year.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
I hope they do it, tween that and Holliday's contract it'll hamstring their payroll.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
If they don't
You know Boston probably will.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
If StL let's it even get to FA then that city will freak...
…if he signs elsewhere then we’re looking at Jonestown Redux.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll probably get something like 250 million
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
He'll get more than ARods contract
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
I don't think he will
I think he’s going to give St. Louis a bit of a discount and he also doesn’t have the Yankees to negotiate with. My guess is that he’ll get something around A-Rod’s original contract with Texas with plenty of incentives that could kick it up by at least 10 million.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
So much deffered money... That's my guess anyhow.
That’s what they supposedly did with Holliday, iirc.
No way they can afford to have Pujols and Holliday both making full market value unless a shit ton of those dollars are deferred as butt shit.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I can see the BoSox giving him the big money
Their gonna have to find some answer for 1B to keep competing with the fucking Yanks.
Fuck Boston!
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Assuming that's true, they'll have plenty of good, solid midrange options this off season.
Derek Lee and Carlos Pena have to be attractive options for the big market team looking to add a 1b. Paul Konerko and Adam Dunn too a lesser extent. Possibly Berkman as well, though I think Houston’s gonna exercise that 15mm option.
But I think Boston’s stocked at 1b option with Youk and Lars Anderson if he can maybe remember how to hit the ball hard next year.
Plus if they resign V-Mart he’s gonna need somewhere to play the games when he’s not behind the plate.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Boston's gonna need more than that to compete with the Yanks on the corners.
I see V-mart in their DH on those days.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Berkman, as well pending his health and/or retirement
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
That retirement talk always seemed so odd to me.
No way he does that, right?
Walking away from 15mm if the Astros are willing to pay him seems pretty insane.
I guess if his health progresses to the point where baseball becomes torture I could see it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
He's made like 100 million over his career
If he’s smart with that money, he has no need for the money anymore and could decide that the post-playing pain just isn’t worth it to him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
No way
Arod was 25.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 21, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Not on his last contract
which was even bigger
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Age doesn't matter
Pujols is “the best player in baseball right now” just as ARod was when he got his.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Giggle
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
by Brian Thomas on Mar 22, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
184 million?!?
I could use $184 right now
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 21, 2010 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec for the relevancy in the need for money
"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152
Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"
lotta mullah
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Mauer has the cheese now
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Mar 21, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heading should be:
Minnesota Twins catcher Joe Mauer asks Brian McCann “Hey Bri, how’s my ass taste?” at baseball spring training, in Fort Myers, Fla., Sunday, Feb. 21, 2010.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I'm guessing they share the same ST facility, right?
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
I picked the best NL catcher, that's all.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Wow. This was probably a hometown discount too.
Think the Yankess give 8 years, $200mil+?
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
X-rays for Jarrod Saltalamacchia .He is having them read right now on his left trapizius muscle right now.
love the trapizius muscle
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
JeffWilson_FWST Saltalalamacchia says x-rays negative. He’s suffering from back spasms near the left trapezius muscle. Not related to outlet syndrome.
I'm trying to think of the last time I read that a(n?) x-ray came back positive
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Good point.
They’re always going to be negative for something.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 21, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Sarcasm, my friend.
Typeface is a sonofabitch.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm wondering if I've ever heard,
‘Player X underwent unsuccessful surgery today’
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Harden walked out with a trainer looking guy (not Jamie Reed) during the later innings
Did they say anything on tv or afterwards if there was an issue there or was that just a normal occurrence to go ice down or something?
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 21, 2010 8:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Man
I’m already starting to feel like a Mets fan, and we’re not even outta ST yet.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
I'm just glad the damn Yankees didn'y get him
I was a Ranger fan when being a Rangers fan wasn't cool.
Mauer...
worth every penny.
"I've had a lot of experience with semantics, so don't try to lure me into some maze of circular logic."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Mar 21, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
OT: Weiner expects contract talks next year
That’s a really odd headline to read
"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Heh, I wonder what his demands are.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a lot of cheddah.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Mar 21, 2010 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Judging by the comments here, I guess I'm in the minority
But 23 million a yr seems stupid steep for a guy who’s most likely going to split time between 1b and DH for 5-6 of that 8 years.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
He hasn't even turned 27 yet and plays good defense
Why should I think theres a good chance he will be off catcher by 2012?
Sure he will eventually move off catcher and might start taking more days at DH in general before that, but I don’t see why its such an immediate issue.
Fanatics - my webcomic
Because he would set a precident to have a long career at catcher that tall.
And he’s already had back issues.
Sure, he could change history, and I think BT’s assumption is a little far, but I seriously don’t he’ll be a catcher for all of that contract, and if he is, I doubt he’s playing many games.
Well
I know Mauer is taller than all these guys, but not by much. Johnny Bench was 6’1", Carlton Fisk was 6’2", Mike Piazza was 6’3". It worked out okay for all of them. Sandy Alomar was 6’5" and he did alright too. I don’t think it’s unheard of that Mauer has a long, productive career, but I understand the concerns. I definitely think he’ll play more than 2-3 years at catcher over the course of the contract though, wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see him play out the whole thing at catcher. Like DShep said, he’s still pretty young.
Ready for some baseball.
Alomar has never been listed when the "these are the tallest catchers to have long careers" things.
I wonder why. I mean, he wasn’t that good, but he did it. I don’t think his “not that good” was because of his height.
True, only the hadsomest, most good at sex-crimes commentors mention Alomar.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he wasn't the greatest by any means.
But he was tall and he had a pretty long career, for whatever that’s worth.
Ready for some baseball.
Who are all these really tall players that became gold glove level major league catchers
but then had to move off by age 29?
I know there are very few really tall catchers that can play good defense to begin with, but hes already established that he can.
Fanatics - my webcomic
But he IS the Twins
And if you want people to freeze their asses off in that new park you got to give them what they want, and they want him.
respice adspice prospice
by FormerDriller on Mar 21, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The Ranger fan wanted Face also
ditto the Blue Jays with Wells. Those didn’t turn out well.
He’ll be worth the contract for 4-5 years.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
I hear you,
but Mauer is on a much higher level than the 2 guys who I believe are really good friends. Swear I’ve heard that somewhere.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
But now he'll have to live up to the pressure of carrying that contract.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
I think Mauer is so legit it doesn't matter. he's a really effn good hitter, he ain't going anywhere soon.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Will you draft him in the first round?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
nunya
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Another thing
Didn’t he have a pretty significant back injury at the begining of last year. I know it obviously didn’t effect the outcome of his stats but, just saying.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
significant may be strong but yeah he was down for awhile
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't think of too many, if any, guys that I would have less
fear of shrinking from contractual pressure.
This guy becomes the top football recruit in the country, top baseball pick in the country, wins OPS titles, and fucks Miss Americas.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
by scoop16 on Mar 21, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will you draft him in the first round?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Yep. Then I'll rearrange his order of accomplishments
1- Deflowering beauty queens
2- Being chosen by me in the 1st round
3- OPS title
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Can you imagine the comments made by the beauty queen during sex....
Oh…Oh…fuck me Joe…Fuck me Joe
Does my hair look good?
Oh…Oh…fuck me Joe
Does my ass look big?
Shut the F up bitch!
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Dude.
Wut.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 21, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
someone sounds like they've been drinking
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 21, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
all in good fun sir
"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Mar 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he can be worth the sum of the contract
23 million will probably be overpaying him at the end… but whose to say it won’t be underpaying him for the first few years? Does it really matter when he earns it?
There were legit questions if Face would be worth his deal the first year he got paid from the get go, very different. And if we can get a decent owner in here his contract isn’t even that big of a problem anyway, he was worth his salary last year.
Fanatics - my webcomic
He IS the Twins because he IS the best player on the Twins.
If Pujols went there, he’d be the Twins next.
Just like if Face left here, and Mauer came, Mauer would be the Rangers.
Most fans have very short memories.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 21, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree, can't compare to Face or Al
Mauer is a home grown star, not an import, and he took that discount to stay knowing he could land bigger $ on the coast.
respice adspice prospice
by FormerDriller on Mar 21, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
and the best catcher in baseball.
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
Agreed, $23M/year is crazy
He’s a great player and all, but he’s getting paid like someone who hits 45 HR / 120 RBI each year. Mauer has never had a 100+ RBI season, for crying out loud. He’s the Tony Gwynn of the catcher position with more pop, which is extremely rare, but not necessarily worth breaking the bank on. I understand why Minny did it, but contracts like these usually do franchises more harm than good.
+1
A 8 year contract to a catcher doesn’t sound good tome.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
*An
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite tome is Atlas Shrugged.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
*to me.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 21, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, RBIs???
You’re in the wrong place for that argument.
Mauer has consistently been one of the top hitting catchers in the league with good defense to top it off. Last season, he finally added legitimate power to that .400+ OBP he could be counted on for. He wasn’t just the top hitting catcher, he was one of the best hitters in baseball. And when you consider the defensive position he plays and how good he is there, he’s worth being paid like a superstar.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Mar 21, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is what I typed out before I literally thought "I should scroll down to see if someone like Gdawg already wrote this:"
WTF?!
Frick’n RBIs? No accounting for position? A catcher who hit like Tony Gwynn would be unreal.
Get out of here with that.
This is just getting fun now
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Oh spare me...
RBIs are ridiculous to mention, but OBP isn’t? Classic “your stat is irrelevant, but mine isn’t” argument. Anyhow, RBIs was just an example. The fact is, in his best season to date he hit for an amazing average but is no where near a Triple Crown monster on offense. Sorry, but I think people give him WAAAYYY to big of a boost for being a catcher.
OBP actually tells you something about the skill of a player
RBIs does not. That’s why “your stat is irrelevant, but mine isn’t”.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
8 year's is always risky, but you're selling Mighty Joe a little short there, imo.
Fangraphs:
Mauer was worth an incredible eight wins last year even without any credit for his defense, which most regard as above average.
Yah, that’s a spicy meatball.
Anytime you have a guy in position like this you’re always gonna have to give him more years than you’re comfortable with, that’s just the nature of the beast.
You just have to accept that if you wanna sign a superstar in his prime to a long term contract you’re gonna end up having to commit to paying him those superstar dollars well into the time when you’d expect him to no longer be worth superstar dollars.
Catcher’s especially dicey, of course, but if he can mirror Victor Martinez’s usage and stay behind the plate for 80-100 games into his 30’s, with the rest coming at 1b/DH, he should remain a good player, imo.
Plus, you have to consider that he essentially had Minny backed into a corner.
They HAD to sign this guy.
He’s their Face in the way the Rangers wish MY was, a homegrown super star who seems to foster almost universal love on and off the field.
For them to let him walk right after they opened a brand new baseball palace (that I’m assuming the public at least helped to pay for) would be orginizational suicide, imo.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Point of Order
I hope everyone realizes that, despite having the same profile picture, this was not posted by me.
The two of you should have a cagefight to determine who gets usage of that avy
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
I never seem to have that problem... Guess you should've gone with the laughing at god.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want to have to abandon the only pic I've ever known. . .
. . . but sometimes I read what he writes and I get concerned.
There's another dude who has a slightly different pic of the same incident and it confuses me as well.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's definitely steep.
And from a pure basebal perspective, odds are he’ll never live up to it. Keeping him in Minnesota, for so many reasons, may be worth overpaying him. And if the new owners are willing to eat that money, then it’s no big deal.
I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t tie there hands for a while, though.
think of the lost revenue prevented by this signing
Why else would you go to a Twins game? Does scrappy sell?
A must-signing for them and at a relative discount to what he’ll get on the open market.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I agree with it being something the Twins had to do.
But to a catcher that has already had back problems, 8 years is a long time.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
So..
leading next year’s FA catching crop…!
AJ Pierz-sumthin’
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
V-Mart... if you consider him a catcher.
If I was contending and had some cash to burn I could see throwing him a 2 year deal with an option.
Benjie Molina should be available to be fat for any team willing to pay him, as well.
The FA catching class is almost always gonna be ugly, though.
Catcher don’t age well.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
What a novel concept!
When the Twins have a HOF player on the doorstep of his prime, they don’t piss him off with their own incompetence nor do they make him an offer $ 40 million below market value.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I'm not sure
that offer wasnt 40 million below market
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I'm most curious what the Cards
offer Pujols.
About the only big market team with a glaring need at 1B right now are the NY Mets although the Cubs might be players because they’re going to let Lee go.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Well the Cards will know
if Pujols in interested in staying. If he counteroffers and negotiates, like Mauer and his agent did, he is interested in staying. If he declines all offers without a counteroffer, like Teixeira did, he will be interested in testing Free Agency, like Teixeira was.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I think Tex became fairly disgusted with this organization
when he saw the Hicks strategy after 2004 (put all that new found “financial flexibility” in his pockets) coupled with all the painful struggles of the new GM. Tex wasn’t going to spend a HOF career with a team that didn’t give a damn about winning.
When they brought him an offer so far under market value (that we’ve been assured they wanted him to sign although that kinda screws up the vaunted and much ballyhooed “5 Step Plan” of JD) two weeks before the trade deadline, it was obvious this relationship was not going to work.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 22, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
you are a complete idiot.
I also think that Scott Boras advises his clients to go to FA because you can get more money doing that.
But mostly I think you’re a complete idiot.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
So you think Tex was happy playing for the Rangers
and ecstatic about the strategy Tom Hicks was using?
If the Rangers were truly serious about signing Tex they wouldn’t have made him an offer $ 40 million below his market value.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 22, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
you are a complete idiot.
I also think that Scott Boras advises his clients to go to FA because you can get more money doing that.
But mostly I think you’re a complete idiot.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That means a lot coming from somebody who advocated that
the Rangers should send Ian Kinsler down to AA last summer.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 22, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually never said that
but then I think you’re a complete idiot.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
That's quite the Baseball Think Tank
you’re in, Cahill.
Tell me, which Ranger wife has the best recipe?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Mar 22, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's compare the agents of the two players, shall we?
They both have pretty visible track records in situations like this.
Id say Mauer probably left 20-30 million on the table
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
indeed
hopefully the Cavs won’t make that mistake with LeBron.
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
Lol
Dirk and Bron Bron? Holy f-ing fireworks. I could play their 5 spot and the Mavs would still win it all.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
They won't. Hard to srew it up in the NBA. Max contracts
Which is what the Cavs will offer, it’s just a matter if he wants to stay
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