The Future of Brandon McCarthy
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 24, 2010 8:55 PM CDT
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PrintReal, real rough outing for Brandon McCarthy today, on the heels of the unofficial news that the Rangers had pretty much made up their minds that McCarthy wasn't going to be in the starting rotation to start the season.
Evan Grant has a blog post up with quotes from McCarthy, who talks about his frustration with his performance, his feeling that he wasn't hit that hard, and the struggles with it becoming a "mental thing" and starting to try to be too fine when you start giving up hits, whether they are hard hit or not.
Earlier today, Grant suggested that the issue may be in part about confidence, and put it out there that it may be time for McCarthy to get a new start somewhere else.
McCarthy says in the Grant piece that he doesn't want to go to AAA, that if he isn't in the major league rotation, he'd pitch out of the bullpen, but from reading Richard Durrett's item from this afternoon, he may not have a choice:
Manager Ron Washington said the club has not looked at McCarthy as a reliever, saying that McCarthy needs his routine. "I'm not going to say totally no to it, but it's not anything we've discussed," Washington said.
If Washington is right, and McCarthy is not being considered for the bullpen, that leaves three choices.
One would be to put him on revocable waivers for the purpose of optioning him. However, as we've discussed before, that requires that every team in the league pass on him. If he clears, then great...you can put him in Oklahoma and let him work on the new mechanics and the two-seamer and cutter he's added all year, if you wish. But if a team claims him, and you aren't willing to stick McCarthy in the bullpen, you are presumably going to not pull him back off of waivers, and be willing to lose him to the claiming team. And again, I can't understand why the Mariners, for example, wouldn't grab him and put him in their rotation, at least until Cliff Lee is back.
The second choice is to cut bait and deal him for whatever you can get. Evan Grant has suggested that the Rangers could move him to Washington for Josh Willingham, which would provide the Rangers with a very solid bench bat to platoon with Chris Davis at first base and provide some insurance for Vladimir Guerrero, but it would also require the Rangers to add salary, something that may not be possible, given the sale situation. Using McCarthy to pick up a utility infielder -- I've mentioned the possibility of going after Brendan Harris or Nick Punto from the Twins -- is also a possibility.
The third choice is to find something wrong with McCarthy physically, put him on the disabled list, let him spend some time in extended spring training, and then in mid- to late-April, send him out on a rehab assignment, which allows him to work on things in the minors while punting, for up to 30 days, the decision on what to do with him long-term.
Personally, if I'm the Rangers,unless I really can get Willingham, I'm asking Brandon if he isn't thinking he's having an issue with back spasms or a tight hamstring or something, so I can get him on the d.l. and delay the decision.
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Willingham would be a very nice get.
But why don’t they want him in the bullpen? At least try it.
We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.
Could it be an issue with his height and mechanics?
We’ve heard many times that tall pitchers have a hard time repeating their mechanics, which can hinder their effectiveness. That’s been discussed as an issue with McCarthy in the past. Seems like, with irregular and/or short stints pitching in relief, he might have even more trouble repeating his mechanics, thereby minimizing his effectiveness.
And with the plethora of other right-handed relief options, they may have decided that trying to work McCarthy into a relief role just isn’t the best plan of action going forward.
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Remember
that was a Washington comment. There is a pretty extensive history of him being fairly clueless as to their strategic discussions.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 25, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
the mind is a terrible thing to waste
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by RangerMad on Mar 25, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a fair point
It could be that the boys upstairs have made the decision McCarthy isn’t fit for the bullpen and thus haven’t discussed it with Warsh.
Or it could be that Warsh is just talking out of his a** again.
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Relieving would be more stress on his fragile
Body
"When you play Happy," Andrus said, "good things will happen."
Haven't the Rangers been busted for fake DL assignments already?
That is the last thing they need now. Don’t do it unless you can absolutely prove an injury.
I think they've done it...
But they haven’t been “caught”. Eddie Guardado comes to mind.
by bhudson on Mar 24, 2010 9:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
On April 3, 2002
The Rangers lost then-promising LHP Andy Pratt to the Braves because the league ruled that Ryan Dittfurth had been inappropriately assigned to the 60-day DL. When Dittfurth was activated and optioned, Pratt was DFA’d to make room.
I don’t remember the exact problem, but it involved Dittfurth’s option. I’m sure someone here remembers the specifics.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
LSB archives come through....
If you recall, the Rangers ended up having to designate Andy Pratt for assignment to make room for Dan Miceli in 2002 because Ryan Dittfurth, whom they had planned to move to the 60 day d.l., had been optioned to the minors only a couple of days earlier, and the Commissioner’s office voided the move to the disabled list because Dittfurth had to wait at least 10 days after being optioned before he could be recalled (a necessary procedural step for a player to be put on the 60 day d.l.).
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Is that the same thing?
This sounds like he was optioned and then they attempted to put him on the ML DL, which implied recalling him prior to 10 days. Now, we’re talking about putting him on the DL without optioning him first.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Mar 25, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to have lost my mind lately...
Somehow “fake DL assignments” became “fraudulent/faulty DL assignments” in my head.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong. It's to pee with.
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by Black Francis on Mar 25, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's finally time...
to turn the page on McCarthy.
You deal him for whatever you can get right now. Guys like Hunter, Holland, and Feliz are already waiting in the wings. He simply fills no role on this team right now if the ‘pen isn’t an option.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Mar 24, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly right...
Maybe they could get a utility infielder or another catcher….
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Mar 24, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Although I really don’t understand why the ‘pen isn’t an option. If he takes a long time to warm up or something, all that really means is he’s not somebody you can bring in in the middle of an inning. Doesn’t mean you can’t still put him in the bullpen in the capacity of a long man, who usually has plenty of forewarning before he enters a game.
This “Brandon needs his routine” statement sounds like another case of the Rangers over-catering to their players.
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I don't think I agree.
I’d still trade him if I think I can get a decent prospect and a utility infielder, but I don’t dump him. When he’s not hurt he’s a pretty decent starter, of the 4.50 ERA type. yes, there might not be room for him after this year, or even during this year, but he’s not the worst thing to have as your 6th or 7th option for the rotation. especially if it gives the team what it really needs, which is the option not to rush a guy like Martin Perez or Kasey Kiker or even Derek Holland in the event of Harden’s inevitable injury and Lewis or Harrison’s near inevitable ineffectiveness.
Plus, if you do have to move Wilson back to the pen, he’ll be there. I say, try and get him through waivers down to AAA, if somone claims him, try and work out a deal with that team.
I just worry that if you dump him, you’ll have another Armando Galarraga or Edinson Volquez or John Danks issue.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I ain't worried about McCarthy becoming Danks or Volquez
Galarraga, I guess if he moves to the NL in a weak division, that could happen. Padres. BOOM.
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by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
don't forget Kiker
Scheppers, soon to be Perez and many, many more
I agree, if we can get SOMETHING
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by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Amen
It’s hard to keep the trade that brought him here, one of the worst trades in the last 10 years, independent from the situation, but the guy is brittle and leaves pitches up.
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by Lord Humungus on Mar 25, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
just let him go
really… just let him go.
When his body isn’t in the way of his development, his head is. Just let him go.
I really don’t believe he’d fetch Willingham, but jeez that’s a no-brainer at this point, isn’t it?
Either way — just let him go. We have a new wave of young pitchers that will show promise and mostly not live up to it, but they deserve their shot; and McCarthy could use a fresh start as well.
Just let him go.
Damn, moving him for Willingham would be incredibly fantastic
I really doubt the Nats would consider that though. I don’t think McCarthy has that much value.
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yup
and probably not.. but almost. Send over Teagarden to be mentored by Pudge and have them throw in someone else and you got a deal.
as much as I don't think Tea will ever amount to anything
you don’t want to trade away any kind of depth at C that the Rangers have
but I see where you are going
by texasraider on Mar 24, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually agree with this.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
I'm just ready for whatever's going to happen to happen.
I really don’t care how it turns out. I’m just ready to roll.
Either DL the player, or trade him for offense
Those are the best options.
In fact putting him on waivers would go a ways in determining his market value.
Actually, is it illegal to waive the player, see what happens, and thennnn DL him for back spasms?
Eh, sure would be easier on everyone if BMac hadn’t been acquired for John fricking Danks.
Go Strangers.
it would be a mistake if we let him go now
he should be in the rotation. he’s still an above average SP, if he can stay healthy for any period of time he’ll be just fine…
I’d say put him in the bullpen for right now…he’ll get his shot in the rotation.
And Ron, hah…does he really think he has any input whatsoever in these type of decisions?
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I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
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thass racess
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I'm curious...on what do you base your "above average SP" belief on?
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
i was goin by ERA+
but i guess you can cherry pick stats…but, i’d still want him here.
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He's a decent back-end starter
But he’s not really “above average” in any way. Career xFIP of 4.94, thanks to consistently terrible HR rates and unimpressive K rates that are probably gonna drop if he’s throwing his curve less this year.
Plus there’s the whole 44 starts in three years as a Ranger thing.
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"Only" 26?
I don’t know if I’d call that an only in the sense your’e trying to say. He’s 27 in July, has never made more than 22 starts in a season and is starting to get expensive.
We’ve got a whole line of better or similar options for the rotation, and if he really can’t go to the bullpen because “he needs his routine” it’s probably time for us to cut bait.
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I still don't like the thought that Matt Harrison is that much better
at least immediately
I think Harrison is getting a little too much hype based on a couple
possible ticks in velocity. Let me see the performance when the games matter.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
At least according to gameday
His velocity hasn’t increased from last year. He did hit 94-97 in the first innings of the first couple of outings, then settled back to around 90-92, which is normal for him anyway.
and it's tough to know if those readings
are accurate in ST and AFL ballparks.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
He did averge 90.7 mph on his fastball per fangraphs
which is generally 1-2 mph slower than the pitch f/x velocity. The season before that, he was also average a bit over 90 mph on the fastball. The velocity is ticking up, but I don’t think there is really that much change.
he is
he’s got more velocity, he’s a lefty, and while he’s had injuries, not as consistent and freakish as the Skeletor
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by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
It's time for this rotation to have pitchers that are more than "just fine"...
they need effective starters at each spot in the rotation…BMac is an annual member of the disabled list and too inconsistent…time to move on…
"I've had a lot of experience with semantics, so don't try to lure me into some maze of circular logic."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Mar 24, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you watching the same
itchy pussy pitch that I am?
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann
Unless the Nats are desperate for cash, I can't see them taking the bait.
Love the idea, though.
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
cash and young prospects
it wouldn’t be McCarthy straight up…McCarthy and a non-top 5 prospect for Willingham and some cash?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I would be willing to throw in some more to get Willingham, but my guess....
Grant was just throwing out Willingham’s name….I am not sure that there is any interest in McCarthy by the Nationals….now if they are interested, this gets me excited!
I am sure JD has blown the phones up looking to deal McCarthy and Mendoza.
by death of the cool on Mar 24, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions
OT - FWIW
Earlier Kirkman was reported to have been optioned to Frisco by the media. But the OKC transaction sheet shows he went to OKC instead. hmmm
I was surprised when I heard he went to Frisco.
Thought for sure it would be OKC and now it looks that way.
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re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
Why do you say that?
Both Holland and Hunter are going to be fine by May first. Holland in fact is already fine, he’s just behind the curve as far as getting stretched out and ready for the season. He could even make a charge at a rotation slot this spring, but he’ll probably need help. Lewis pitching like crap can’t hurt, but with Lewis pretty much guarenteed a spot, he’ll have to beat out Harrison or Wilson. I can hope he beats out Wilson, because if Wilson loses his rotation slot, he goes to the pen, which, IMO, is a win-win for us.
Harrison, if he doesn’t make the rotation, heads to AAA.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
at the start of ST the SP depth chart was something like this
Harden, Feldman, Lewis, Hunter, BMac, Holland, Wilson, Feliz, Harrison. Moscoso
now with Hunter hurt, BMac in the pen or trade and Feliz possibly in the pen also, Moscoso has moved up to #7 on the depth chart.
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Fuck no!
I want to see him in Frisco
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by Kinslerhomer on Mar 25, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
How about Hu?
Roughly the same age, both former quality prospects, both would fit/benefit from new club
You know Hu. Josh Willingham
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Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Knock knock
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Like I said, the 5 best starting pitchers should break camp in the rotation.
I said before ST McCarthy wasn’t going to be one of them.
His girlfriend can stay, though.
by TooLegitToQuit on Mar 24, 2010 10:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He could be our new bat boy.
"We pitched, we caught the ball, we ran the bases, we had good days where we out-fundamentalized the other team." - Ronald Washington
Man, I'd love to get Willingham here
Dude’s a hell of a hitter. He’s a starting-caliber COF. I just don’t think he’s a fit here-to eat 11 million dollars, the guy would have to be a regular player, not a bench bat.
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Never mind the 11 million
I was looking at his WAR-translated dollar value, not his salary info.
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by Conjunction on Mar 24, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he's due 4.6 mil this year according to Cots.
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Which might seem expensive, but I don't think it's anymore than what we where gonna have to pay Mike Lowell
Who, by the way, apparently still ain’t right.
Ron Washington is: The Bad Manager - Port of Call New Orleans
that's VERY reasonable
make it work, Jonny
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
BMac should stay
I don’t think we can get proper value for him. If he can’t clear waivers, then stash him at the back of the pen as the long man with Nippert. If his performance out of the pen shows he needs his “routine,” then we can go from there.
Proper value.
I think with BMac you have to start examining whether we’re falling into the “sunk costs fallacy.”
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Sunk?
Really? In the three years he’s been here, he’s been worth 2.8 WAR. Does this capture everything we want it to? No, but it’s a pretty good indicator that they’ve been getting more than their money’s worth out of him.
Even if he stays around the 1 WAR level this season, he’s a good buy for his $1.1M.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Well...
that 1 WAR would also come with reduced flexibility. You’ve got a guy that is only suitable to a particular role, and he can’t be sent down to AAA without passing through waivers.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
We don't know he's only suited for starting.
Even though I’m not advocating him for a bullpen spot, I think the Rangers may be afraid to put him back in a relief role. I definitely don’t think he literally “needs” his routine especially since it hasn’t exactly been working.
After today’s outing, whatever odds existed that he clear waivers have certainly become better. I’m still not sure he’d clear.
I still think the only reason the Rangers move him is if they feel absolutely handcuffed.
All of that said, I won’t be shocked if he’s traded for a spare part, but I won’t agree with it either.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I can agree with this.
They guy still has pretty good movement on his pitches. He could certainly come in and, if used after the right guy, be a good change of pace. Coming in after Harden or Cj would make a nice difference and throw off the hitters.
As much as I’d be interested in seeing Seattle claim him to cover for Lee for a few weeks, I don’t think they would want to cover Mc’s 1.1 mil. Those guys can be pretty thrifty, especially after shelling out $$$$ for Chone and Lee and Bradley. Oh, and that Felix guy.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
And I should clarify my statement...
John Danks put up better numbers than McCarthy over the same time period. Human nature is to try to get some kind of value out of McCarthy, for the same reason that people say “I can’t sell this stock, I want to make some of my money back.” We paid more for McCarthy than he is worth now, thus the “sunk cost fallacy.”
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
That only seems to apply if you keep the retrospective goggles on.
I’m speaking strictly from a baseball aspect, without regard for how he was acquired.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
For many lay fans...
McCarthy-Danks is probably the defining Daniels trade. Hell, Josey claims to be more than a lay fan, and he considers it the defining trade. Thus, there’s pressure on the front office and/or fans of this front office to turn McCarthy into something of value. That’s all I was saying.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I like this point.
It’s wrong and drives anyone around here worth a damn crazy, but it is a good point.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Actually
I think dealing AG/CYoung is the defining deal (Broussard, Shelton, terrible 1B play in ’09, 967 runs allowed in 08) and much more of a wrecking ball to our future but the McCarthy Deal is … well, the little brother of bad deals.
If we don’t trade Danks, maybe we do make a run at Ted Lilly and both would still be in our rotation this year.
I do believe this organization keeps trying to chase the McCarthy deal to justify giving up Danks.
JD, you F’d up – McCarthy is never, ever going to be John Danks but he can still be useful to This Thing. 10-15 starts and a lot of long relief has a place in this world.
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I have problems
seeing the downside to throwing him in the bullpen. He pitched about the same as a BP guy as he has as a starter.
He isn’t a front of the rotation pitcher, he isn’t an innings eater, he isn’t a closer or a setup man, he is just a back of the rotation guy or a bullpen long man and I suspect he is a much, much better option than some of the crap we have run out in the past, like Mad Dog, and Mendoza, and Rupe.
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McCarthy, Dozer, Arias, Beavan
for Josh and Cash?
what’s wrong with me…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
a trade would be preferable but
I don’t think he would fetch much. With the injuries to Hunter, O’Day and Ray seemimgly not healthy, I wouldn’t trade him. Put him in the bullpen.
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Perhaps they could deal him...
for a bullpen arm. There might be a team out there that could use a back end of the rotation guy and would deal a serviceable bullpen arm to get him.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
OT : Here's a nice story...
for you dads out there. Especially those of you with daughters.
My daughter is 10 now. Like many little girls she’s a drama princess. I’m sure being an only child doesn’t help any either. Anyway, tonight she was whining about something, and kept doing it ‘til that little issue turned into a huge bowl full ’o drama. It got to the point that we finally told here to go to bed. When she came out to say goodnight she was pouting and crying and said "I’m sorry I’m a bad ass bitch". My wife and I just looked at each other in amazement ’til my wife said “where did you here those words.”
It was at that point in time that I had my Ralphie/Christmas Story moment. You know the one. Ralphie drops the f bomb and his mom asks where he heard that word and he’s thinking about how often he had heard his dad say it. I started thinking about my potty mouth and how I’ve said those words before, but never together like that. At least I don’t think so anyway.
She took the high road too and said that she didn’t hear that phrase from anyone and just made it up. I’m sure she heard it at school or on a movie somewhere, but I’m pretty sure she got the meaning of the phrase slightly wrong. I love my little girl, but I’ll be damned if little girls aren’t chock-full of more emotions and drama than any other thing on the face of the earth.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
LOL
Yeah, I’m looking very forward to seeing the fun my brother and his wife will be dealing with the next few years with my niece, who’ll be 10 in August, and already has the drama queen routine down pat.
I find I have to watch what I say around her and her two brothers, as I tend to use the F word like it’s punctuation, even around my family…
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
Being a parent is very enlightening
No better way to learn about oneself.
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i got another good one
My wife and I were arguing about money recently (i.e. spending a lot on going out to eat). My 3 year old son was hovering around us, and my wife made some snide comment about how I was about to take my son to McDonald’s for pancakes (which I only did because I promised I’d make him pancakes but the ingredients were old so I had to come through). I heatedly responded with, “I promised him fucking pancakes!”
My son quickly picked up on the word, thinking it was some kind of pancake he had never heard of. He responded emphatically, “Oooooh…I want some fucking pancakes!”
My wife and I just both started laughing. Hopefully he’s not repeating this shit at preschool now (he’s 4).
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That is hilarious
I would lose it if my 6yr old were to blurt that out in that context.
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/or was the the Peace Corps?
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Very funny
My kids keep us rolling on the floor too. Thanks for the new sig.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
yeah I'm not close to having a child yet
(that I know of…) but I’ve got to start cleaning up the ol’ mouth
besides, it just sounds stupid anyways.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
from EG's game report
RHP Willie Eyre is not on the 40-man roster and would seem to face an uphill battle in landing a spot in the bullpen, but he tossed another scoreless inning Wednesday. Eyre has been charged with one unearned run in 6.1 innings.
Might the Rangers waive/trade BMac and give his roster spot to Eyre?
RF Nelson Cruz showed why some defensive metrics rank him among the best at his position, by going to the foul line for a sliding catch on Marlon Byrd to start the third and then into the right-center gap for a catch on Geovany Soto to end the inning.
I’m sure he took bad routes to the ball. :)
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I would do something dirkatron approved if the Rangers put Willie Eyre back on the 40 man roster
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Damn man.
I heart Willie Eyre. I thought we were cool. : (
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
why are we acting like Seattle putting McCarthy in the rotation
would be a bad thing?
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
Seattle might be the once place where a guy with McCarthy's HR rates could succeed, actually
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would our hitters fare poorly against him though?
I’d have to think we’d be one of the harder hit lineups he’d face…and he may cry or quit baseball after running through this lineup.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
so I haven't been paying all that close of attention
but doesn’t the rational course of action entail
1) Put BMac on revokable waivers to send to AAA
2a) if unclaimed, then he goes to AAA
2b) if claimed, then pull off waivers (don’t give him to Seattle)
3) try to work out a trade or put him in bullpen
I guess even if you are 90% sure BMac will be claimed, what is the harm of trying to get him through waivers anyway?
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I don't think there's any harm, aside from AAA not being Mac's top choice.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
what about the fact that
Mac is not our top choice?
by blueballlefty on Mar 25, 2010 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions
That is irrelevant to this particular element of the discussion.
But thanks for trying.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Not exactly a reply to you NNOC
but I would like your opinion. If there is a gentleman’s agreement about revocable waivers, why would a team try to nab BMac. He isn’t the kind of player that I would want to piss off all the other GM’s for. Am I wrong in this assumption? I really don’t want the team to cut bait on him unless they get forced by other players stepping up.
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I think too much is being made of it.
I’d bet that GMs don’t get mad when another team puts in a claim on waivers like these.
by NoNameOnCard on Mar 25, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the part that I don't get
But if a team claims him, and you aren’t willing to stick McCarthy in the bullpen, you are presumably going to not pull him back off of waivers, and be willing to lose him to the claiming team
If you are going to lose him, why not pull him back from waivers and DFA him at that point. That gives you 10 days to work out some kind of deal at least where you aren’t losing him for absolutely nothing.
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What?
Part of the DFA process is passing through irrevocable waivers. If you pull him off of revocable waivers why would that same team not try and snag him off irrevocable waivers when you can’t pull him back?
if theres multiple teams who really want him then you trade him without ever getting to waivers I would think.
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I would trade him like that too
but the way AJM wrote it, it makes it seem like in that scenario, you have to get him off the 25 man roster quickly. The only way to do that if he doesn’t clear revocable waivers is to just release him or work out a very quick trade. DFAing him would at least give you 10 days to try and work out some deal with a team.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
DFAing only would work if you have multiple teams seriously interested in him
Otherwise if its just one team seriously interested they could just pluck him off waivers and not have to give up anything to get him.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That team has no way of knowing how much interest there is around the league
And you can always get something in return by DFAing a player, even if it is something very crappy.
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Put him on the dl
and do something later. The more reserves for the inevitable starters going on the DL the better. Three starters or four starters in reserve is a good thing.
I can't imagine why
BMac would agree to go on the DL unless he thinks he is injured. There just doesn’t seem to be any upside from his standpoint to reinforce the notion he is made out of glass.
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well...SOMETHING has to be hurting him right now
maybe not a “conventional injury” though. Pride and a body part he shouldn’t have…with lots of sand in it…
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by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
He can always wash that out
in another organization. I’d have trouble believing he’d be upset to leave Texas. It’s not like this stop has been all that productive for him.
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Well,
if he won’t or can’t be put on the DL, trying the waivers move and see if he gets through, and if he doesn’t, either get a favorabile trade or stash him in the bullpen. Surely, he can be of use for awhile in the Bullpen for whenever some starter goes on the DL. I just think they should hold on to him if possible, to keep up their strong reserves. A strong reserve is necessary in any long campaign where there is always attrition. Hold on to him because you want reserves to go all the way, not cause of the Danks Trade, that is history. Do what is best for the Team, not what is best for BMac.. Keep the depth.
by SanDiegoKev on Mar 25, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
BMac in the pen
I’d like to think McCarthy would stay healthier in the pen, but maybe if he’s throwing harder for shorter amounts of time that’s a bad thing? Either way, what would we expect him to look like in the pen – a 94/95 mph righty a la Doug Mathis? Is that more valuable than anything we could get in a trade? And if we were able to get him past waivers into AAA would he really be valuable coming back to us? He either has it or doesn’t, and in the past 2 years I’ve been sorta high on him. I’m WAY low right now.
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by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
You think he would gain 3-5 mph on his fastball by moving to the pen?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
didn't he top out at 94 or so in the past in the pen for Chisox?
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by Walter Sobchak on Mar 25, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
That was 4 years ago
And with everything hes changed since then I doubt he could get up there right now. He also used to be a low 90s starter but now hes a upper 80’s starter
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Tough to blame him
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