Thursday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 4, 2010 8:12 AM CST
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PrintFirst for-real spring training game is today, with Rich Harden set to get the start.
Jeff Wilson has a story on Elvis Andrus, looking at where he was last spring and where he is now. The knock on Elvis for as long as he's been in the organization is that he sometimes lets his attention wander, and after two errors in the first two intrasquad games, Ron Washington says that they have to work with him on keeping his focus.
Nolan Ryan said yesterday he expects 92 wins from the Rangers this year. That's an aggressive goal, but one that is certainly attainable, and after winning 87 games in 2009, I wouldn't expect anyone in the organization to predict anything less than 87.
Ron Washington says that Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Taylor Teagarden are "dead even" in the race for the starting catching job right now, even though Salty is starting the season opener.
Evan Grant has a story up on the Rangers' expectations for Julio Borbon this year. It is interesting to me that a guy who came up in the organization as a defensive whiz, but with questions about his bat, seems to be generating more confidence with his bat than with his glove right now. The consensus seems to be that he'll hit well enough, but folks are wondering about his fielding in center.
T.R. Sullivan has a story on Ian Kinsler that focuses on Kinsler's fascination with Jackie Robinson.
Sullivan also has some blog notes up, in which he mentions that Neftali Feliz has not been throwing well so far.
Ben Rogers breaks down who he thinks the most indispensable Rangers are this season.
Richard Durrett's positional breakdown for the Rangers takes a look at the manager today.
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Ive read a couple snippets where he basically has started telegraphing his offspeed stuff
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
his minor league splits may indicate he is a slow starter
of course SSS is in play
http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi
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Happy was getting shelled at live BP
I saw Murphy take him deep a couple of times and his control was off during live BP. Had trouble finding the strike zone.
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
THIS or at the very least "our worlds"
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
feliz not throwing well + earthquakes = doom
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Of course Borbon had the reputation of fielding well
he is fast, isn’t he? Nothing is better for a defensive rep that making the occasional highlight film play due to speed.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
It sounds to me like what they're really worried about is his throwing
That’s what Grant focused on in the article, anyway.
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by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
That's always been the concern with Borbon
the issue is whether his speed will make up for some of the lack of velocity and accuracy of his throws and whether his bat is good enough to make up for any defensive inefficiencies.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Pettis also mentions
his reads on balls. I’ve always thought reads on balls and good routes probably pay off more than raw speed for the majority of plays by OFs. I’ve seen way too many fast guys, and Roger Cedeno is my favorite whipping boy, who had all the speed in the world but couldn’t play OF worth a damn. Cedeno was a terrible, terrible OF, but by God he was fast, so some teams would stick him in CF.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Yep.
A really fast player can make one highlight play that sticks in folks minds, and apparently offsets the 20 other times they were grossly out of position to make a play.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I don't think the Rangers are going to shoehorn anybody into CF
Seems like they’ve taken route readers over fast guys for a while now. And it’s not like they are eagerly giving Borbon the CF slot; they had him at LF months ago. They might roll with him to start the year but they won’t stick with a bad route runner forever.
Nelson Cruz would like to have a word with you.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I'm sure it would
I’m just taking issue with “they won’t stick with a bad route runner forever”. They will as long as he’s getting the job done, obviously.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
that's not really a good way to look at it
how about: UZR proves that he’s not a bad route runner and people with their anecdotal evidence can shove it.
how about
You take your UZR and your other numbers and shove them sideways.
Works both ways.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Right
Your anecdotal evidence of seeing Cruz pick up a ball on a camera without seeing where he was to start, or possibly seeing him play 5 times live, is much better than what multiple stats say.
and your sarcasm and assumptions
are both excellent methods of making me see your point of view. Well done.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
good one
Are you a lawyer?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
not anymore.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
UZR proves he's a good fielder
doesn’t say anything about what routes he takes.
Can we not get into this today? The first day of Spring Training games is a minor Holy Day that we should all be observing.
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So
you could say it proves he’s a good athlete, not necessarily a good OF’er…
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
It really does
Like Cahill points out, you can rarely make up for bad route running with speed. And Cruz isn’t even a traditional speed demon.
And are you saying you can’t handle a discussion about a baseball player on a baseball blog? Because that’s what we do here
There should be some weird hybrid stat
UZR * CS% – the ability for a guy to take routes gets determined by how slow he is on the basepaths.
Obviously that is too simple, but since speed and fielding intellect are orthogonal, and at least speed shows up in other statistics as well, you should be able to isolate them eventually.
Go Rice Owls!
you have the same smarts issues confounding your speed variable in basestealing
I’m sure somebody has 40 times for these guys. Either way, I think we can all agree that Nelson Cruz is fast but not the fastest guy on the team. He’s also probably not the best route runner ever. But he’s clearly better than Borbon, or Nivar, or probably GMJ or probably anybody we’ve had out there in a long time.
I know
It probably is sufficient to just use common sense, as you say. Even a 6 year old can figure out who the faster player on a team is.
But let me make fun of the stat people who want to come up with some quantification for everything. This one would at least be kind of interesting. Maybe combine SB%, triples, and infield hit /gb.
Go Rice Owls!
I don't think he's clearly better than Borbon.
Borbon’s MLB numbers by UZR were certainly behind Cruz, but MiLB TotalZone numbers correlate fairly well for the Majors, and Borbon and Cruz were pretty close in the Minors. But, Borbon was at a more difficult position, and with positional adjustment, would seem to be the significantly better fielder by TZ.
Borbon also has the bonus of having a terrific defensive reputation. Cruz might end up being better, but I certainly don’t think it’s anywhere close to clear.
OOOH
Thanks, man. I had no idea.
Good Lord.
I’m saying that the Nelson Cruz defense thing has been beaten to death, and IIRC, this was a discussion about Julio Borbon.
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I brought up Nelson Cruz
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
i don't remember it being beaten to death
and this isn’t even about nelson cruz. it’s about how much you should glean about the ability of route running from defensive results. my argument is that speed rarely makes up for bad route running. But also, there is no way that one coudl think nelson cruz is bad at route running given his results.
There is one way:
I have SEEN him run bad routes.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
He doesn't do it all the time
and I’m not saying he’s a bad outfielder. He’s obviously a good outfielder.
But it’s ludicrous for YOU to tell ME that I haven’t seen him run bad routes.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
How old are you?
How much baseball have you seen?
How many times did you SEE Cruz?
Do you know what you’re looking for?
Who do you think is good at running routes? On the Rangers?
Before your opinion holds any sway, I’m going to need you to answer these questions. Although, if I’m being fair, ther like .5% chance that you could give me an answer that would make me take your word for it over results.
exactly.
there’s nothing I can do to change your mind and You can throw out all the abbreviations and numbers you want.
I do not discount the validity of UZR or any other metric you want to throw out. But I also do not discount what I have seen.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
sigh
If you’re going to trust your eyes over results about something you’ve only sampled maybe 1% of the time but want to extrapolate into a larger conclusion, you’re not going to be good for conversation going forward.
Here
Probably in response to last dust-up over Nellie’s defense, tyd emailed Frankie Piliere and asked him for a scout’s perspective. It’s not terribly in-depth, but I think Frankie takes a balanced view on it.
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With all due respect to Piliere,
his comments suggest he could stand reading a bit more of mgl’s (and others’) commentaries on the defensive metrics.
The defensive metrics are a long way from perfect, but “I know what I saw” also has a long history of being successfully challenged in MLB.
And criticizing certain stats because some folks misuse them is really a criticism of the people, not the numbers.
And if it didn't get calculated by a formula
it didn’t happen
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Are you trying to be dumb?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
me?
I don’t have to try.
But all I’m trying to say is that over-reliance on any one source is wrong. I’m wrong for relying on my eyes too much, I get it. But I won’t base my opinions simply on metrics, either.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
don't you get it?
your eyes mean fuck all. I trust Frank’s eyes or a scout’s eyes or someone who’s seen cruz play at least 50 times in the outfield. I’m not trusting someone that watched cruz’s reads from a camera that didn’t even pick up where he was to begin with or only watched him twice live
I'm really glad you know how many times I've seen Cruz play
because I’ve lost count, frankly.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
it really really bugs you that I don't give a shit what you think, huh?
That i still think I’m right?
Does that make you angry?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
no, do you?
want to take me to a game and show me how to watch baseball?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
want to take me to a game and show me how to watch baseball read a metrics sheet? Fixed for you…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks!
Again, I will state my stance.
Nelson Cruz is a good outfielder. I believe in metrics. I also believe what I see.
If you feel this is wrong, that’s okay. I still think you’re a nice person.
If you think i’m stupid, and don’t know a goddamn thing about baseball and should just shut the fuck up and go away, that’s okay too. I still will say what I think, right or wrong, because it’s a message board, and i don’t want to do work.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Agreed
with all points. I understand UZR. I understand all the metrics. But in the end, I still watch games and form opinions on what I see. But there is a group of guys on here who are such slaves to the numbers that they shit a brick if you try and make any argument that doesn’t involve numbers.
SI’s baseball preview had a story on the Mariners new GM. Dude said, yes we look at UZR, but it is an imperfect statistic that we use along with what we see with our eyes. Like when F. Guiterrez was playing RF for the Indians and they thought, based on his UZR and what we see from him, he could play a hell of a CF.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
And they should use scouting to supliment the numbers.
Fans watching from their couches aren’t scouting and they aren’t scouts.
Also, everyone who looks at defensive metrics thought Gutierrez should play center. Not sure what your point is. That was a pretty heavy meme at Beyond the Boxscore a couple years ago.
Using one source is probably not the best.
It’s a lot better of a source than someone who watches some games on TV, though.
Just to be clear
ab03 is the one who implied I hadn’t seen Cruz enough live. I’ve seen him dozens of times live, but he likes to just make assumptions.
I feel like I’ve seen enough to Cruz to have every right to make the statement that I don’t like the paths he takes in the outfield.
But, yes, UZR is correct in saying he’s a good outfielder. And yes, there’s more to it than meets to eye, in person OR on TV.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
well excuse the fuck out of me for not going to 81 home games a year
i STILL think he takes bad routes.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
81 games
would still fall under small sample for defense, AND you can’t possibly trust your memory over that many games.
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I don't give a fuck whether you think I'm right or wrong
I can to have a different opinion than yours or anyone else.
If you can’t handle that, then you’re the little bitch. So there.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
You're the one who butted in and called me 'a little bitch'
i’m pretty sure the immaturity started when you showed up
i’m defending my point of view. you’re name calling.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
You're not defending anything.
You’re saying that you don’t trust statistics. Simply put, that’s really stupid. So you can’t be terribly shocked when people think you’re really stupid.
quote from above:
I believe in metrics.
by jam0152 on Mar 4, 2010 8:03 AM PST
Try again?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
To be fair
that was in response to ab03 telling him to shove his anecdotal evidence up his rear
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
So
I think it was meant as sarcasm
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Well
that may be so. I hope you are right, because I think you are a sad little man.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Is it naptime?
Don’t forget your binky so you can sleep.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Jesus.
Come up with something better than that if you’re going to insult me. It’s not as if there isn’t a lot of ready-made ammunition.
I can't insult you
You are message board perfection!!!
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
nah, i'm done.
successfully hijacked, dude.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
that of course was my witty retort to his one-sidedness
Look, my stance isn’t really all that heretical:
Take your numbers. I totally think they are legit and add to player evaluation and are important.
But also keep an open mind when someone who has watched MANY baseball games (a guy like yourself, a baseball fan) wants to believe something he thinks he knows.
What’s so wrong with not believing everything you read?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
The only legitimate argument
Is that the defensive metrics are flawed. But saying that your measly, unprofessional observations are better than even flawed metrics is really not smart.
I never once said that they were better.
If you really don’t have anything to further this conversation, I’m growing tired of it. I’d rather talk about the game.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
proud of ya, bud
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Maybe...
jam is skateboard man?
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Jerry, is that you?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I can't imagine this being farther away from the statement if I tried
Aimed at you ab03, and again, just saying.
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If it's attack the person and not the subject, then yeah you are right.
It’s meant to demean, ridicule and intimidate. It’s not meant to move the subject forward. I’d rather hear each person iterate their idea and defend it.
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Good 'ole
Nothing is better for a defensive rep that making the occasional highlight film play due to speed.
Rusty Greer career path.
When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.
Greer had a slightly different
career path. Diving for a ball 5 feet away that an average defender makes standing up is also great for your rep. It makes you gritty.
Diving catches at the wall also give you huge rep. See GMJ.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I always
chalked up Greer’s dives to a lot of bad routes because he had good speed. Where as a fielder with average speed but a better route would have made the play standing up.
Exactly on GMJ he made $55 mil on those diving catches at the wall.
When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.
And Muphy dissapearing into the scoreboard.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Isn't that exact opposite of Rusty's career path?
He always struck me as more of the Nate McLouth sort of defender.
His poor speed led to him diving a lot on balls a rangier defender prolly would’ve gotten to sans diving.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Is there a disconnect here between the talent evaluators for amateur and pro scouting?
That’s what I’m trying to figure out.
Or, is it simply the media not understanding the nuances of scouts’ evaluation of Borbon on draft day and during his minor league career.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
He also had that reputation because all the evidence is that he was really good.
Scouting and statistically.
Yet
his arm is Frank Catalanotto bad and he makes bad reads.
He is far short of the Gold Glove defense some were touting.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I think
Gary Pettis says roughly the same thing I said in more PC tones in the article above.
I think the “evidence” you point to was fairly non-existent.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
So TotalZone corellates very well for outfielders between the majors and minors. . .
. . . but this is non-existent?
Again, 40-something games in the Majors is a ridiculously small sample. Let’s wait a while before making any sort of definitive statements. I’ll still make the bet that he’s at least a solidly above average center fielder through his prime.
No, but you'd need a lot more than 40 games
to know how much effect that has on her overall defensive play.
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I'm not seeing anything Pettis saying anything that says he isn't or won't be a good outfielder.
He said he has some stuff to work on. It is entirely possible to have a week arm and be a very good outfielder. Arm is valuable, range is much more so.
If Borbon can't play above average defense in CF, then we should trade him, because...... .... .... wait....
My God! I have leaped through time to autumn 2009! Hamilton is injured, McCarthy reworked his delivery, LSJ hates David Murphy, and we are engaged in heated debates about Borbon’s arm and outfield reads!
Oh, Chris Davis just struck out.
Just for the heck of it: We've got some baseball today, boys!
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by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 4, 2010 8:22 AM CST reply actions
POWPOW
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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by Cecilio's Guante on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
I really wish Ron would rotate Borbon and Andrus
in the leadoff spot depending on the opposing SP.
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That's a really good point
Borbon shouldn’t be leading off vs. lefties, not based on his minor league splits (.268/.333/.342 career line against LHP’s). And if this:
The Rangers are confident enough in Borbon that they are preparing to play him against lefties as well as right-handers this season, which is something they didn’t do last year. They believe him to be such an expert bunter that he’ll be able to elevate his average by dropping bunts down even in the difficult lefty-vs.-left-handed pitching matchups
…has any truth to it, and they’re really going to count on his fucking bunting skills to make him useful vs. LHP’s, well… shit.
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by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
How many ABs is that line against LHPs in the minors?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
310 ABs
So, not a particularly big sample size, it’s true…
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by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
Well, for defining a guy's splits, not necessarily.
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by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Especially when he has all of 1 full season under his belt
since signing with the Rangers. It might be a problem for him, but its a little early to move him down to the lineup especially in favor of someone like Elvis. If we had a clearly better candidate to leadoff against lefties, that’s one thing. I just don’t know if Elvis is that guy right now.
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This ain't a pitcher we're talking about with bunting
Borbon is so fast and such a good bunter that it’s a useful offensive weapon for getting on base, not just a tactic to give away an out in order to move over a runner.
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LSJ hates bunts
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That's because they really do nothing but increase your odds of making an out.
And outs suck.
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by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
I don't disagree in principle, but I think Borbon is in a slightly different category than your stereotypical bunt
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
You're saying there's a difference between a Julio Borbon bunt and a Gerald Laird bunt?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
man, the sarcasm just really doesn't transfer
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
That was awesome, well done jam0152
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Perhaps
But it’s not like teams aren’t going to be ready for it, especially if he starts doing it all the time. He might be a good, even a great bunter, sure, but once everything averages out I don’t think it’ll make a very, if at all significant impact on his numbers.
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by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
I see what you did there
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
The second they start defending against the bunt
then that opens up a hole in the IF for Borbon to slap the ball towards. For the speedy guys like Borbon, bunting is a big part of their game.
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He shouldn't do it all the time.
He should do it when teams aren’t ready for it. So that the next team will be ready for it.
If he can bunt successfully and the corners have to play in, then he could swing away.
He could utilize the Baltimore chop too. I went to a couple of games last year when Borbon and Elvis were wreaking havoc out there. It’s a thing to see. To an old fan, it’s nice to see the defenses and pitchers nervous about our players on bases for a change.
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sacrifice bunts are usually stupid
other than the weird scenario like runners at 1st and 2nd, no outs, and down by 1 in the bottom of the ninth inning.
But bunts for a hit while a sacrifice is only marginally bad can make sense. Even if the player only avoids the sacrifice part 10% of the time, there are scenarios where the value of the sacrifice-for-hit approach becomes reasonable, especially if the player doing it has a low OBP as it is.
Go Rice Owls!
and doing it in situations where he might otherwise have bad splits
which is what the article suggested
Bunt for hit success rate
BABIP for bunt for hits tends to be pretty decent when used correctly, somewhere in the .400 range or so I’d think.
With Borbon’s speed and ability to bunt, either the defense will be playing too far back (and give him a bunt hit), or they’ll be playing in enough to make the holes bigger for a groundball to get through.
Either way, this isn’t a sacrifice bunt in the 2nd inning or anything — this is anything to get his OBP higher, which is good.
So what’s the problem with that?
Exactly
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Yes, that perfectly described my thoughts on the matter
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
Keeping the bunt in your repertoire as a possibility, and exploiting it when you can, can and usually does create more favorible defensive alignments for getting hits.
The bunt for a hit should be used occasionally by certain players to keep defenses honest, basically.
Think of who is saying this.
I don't think...
…that the sample size is big enough to warrant that yet. There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that L-R splits aren’t as big as you think they are and require more AB’s than you would think to truly establish.
Something that I’ve been wondering about: On days that Murphy plays, I’m assuming Hamilton goes into CF and Borbon sits? If that’s the case, where do you bat Murphy in the lineup? What about when it’s just a simple Hamilton for Murphy swap?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 8:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreeance.
The scary thing about having this kind of speed is that The Mensa feels like he can now “manufacture runs” i.e. give away outs via bunts and untimely caught steals.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
or it could work and we could see a "manufactured run" every now and then
"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 4, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
didn't really happen like that last year
guys with great speed like borbon and andrus usually succeed more than they fail on steals and “speed plays”
"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 4, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
i know
but what is? Andrus succeeded on steals 85% of the time and Borbon succeeded 83% of the time. Is that good enough? I think so….
"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 4, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
haha just a look at speed
i wish there was a stat on successful/unsuccessful bunts. Still, i remember that Borbon succeeded on bunt hits probably at a higher rate than his BA.
"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 4, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Fangraphs has it
Borbon was 5-17
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
this makes way too much sense
for it to actually happen. Elvis leadoff and Borbon in the 9 hole agaisnt a lefty would be great, but I will be shocked if Washington does it (unless he is on the hot seat again this May, as he is wont to be).
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Ha ha, you stole my post pretty much verbatim... only you somehow did it befire I posted mine.
Damn you and sweater vests, Clark!!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I'm guessing
Worsh would claim to be developing Borbon into a leadoff hitter and Elvis into a future 2-hole guy – hence the emphasis on Borbon leading off.
this would be coming from the guy who had Kinsler leading off these past few seasons
but yeah, I could see reading a quote like that.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yes, I've been wishing this too.
But it makes so much sense… no way this happens.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Ian is doing a pretty good Jackie Robinson imitation
Jackie …….311 .409 .474 740 BB 291 SO
Ian…………..279 .350 .477 206 BB 291 SO
Lets hope Ian gets to steal home ina WS. :)
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
If Ian could just adopt Jackie's plate discipline
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
considering the era
and the type of hitter he is, Ian’s BB/K ratio is pretty good
Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
I think he was more talking about the .409 vs. .350 OBP difference.
It would, in fact, be very nice for Ian to adopt a plate approach that brings that home.
I'm not
I’m the guy that prefers following baseball on paper, with less game-viewing (or -listening) time.
But really, how much of a space case could he be? Pretty nice rookie year I thought.
Yah, not at all my impression his attention wandered.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Mar 4, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
They talked about it alot last year as a rook
I’m not worried about this. The Face will give him The Eye and keep him in line.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Really?
Do you really think it is strong? I like what they did, trying some new things, but I can’t get around to calling it a “strong” Spoon album.
I think we should probably dedicate a fanpost per week to talk about music around here.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I think there albums have been so consistent
that it depends on the one that you “discovered”.
For me, it was first semester in college, fall of 2002, and Kill the Moonlight had just dropped. I got some friends to drive to Austin with me to check them out and it was a great show. That will always be my favorite album of theirs. But I can’t argue with Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga. It was very strong.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
See - I have heard Ga Ga Ga
I thought Transference was like a whole album’s worth of the best parts from Ga Ga Ga. mo money mo money
Transference
I really love it.
You might get a kick out of this and this…
The first link really illuminated the album production for me. Matt Perpetua is bar none my favorite music writer.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Mar 4, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
I always heard that
as a reason for his consistently high error totals.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Just get him on Kinsler's ADD meds.
Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.
by LSJ on Mar 4, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
That was the explanation that I heard, even when he was back in AA, about his error totals — not skill related, but more focus related.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 4, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
I thought the standard take on evaluating the defense of
minor league players is that the scorekeepers weren’t as good, the 1B can’t scoop like a major league players can, the condition of the infield is not as good, the lighting is not as good…blah, blah, blah.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Well, that's certainly part of the error issue, but the scouts who watched him said he had insane range and skills but let his focus wander at times
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
All of those are valid and relevant
and a completely separate issue than whether or not a player is focused.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Andrus D
Wasn’t he utterly more significant above all other factors in improving the Rangers D last year?
It never crossed my mind he was less than a high-focus, type-A sort of athlete.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Mar 4, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
kind of OT...
I’ve never had an RSS reader for some reason, and one of the sites I’m trying to add is Joe Posnanski’s blog. I can’t find an RSS feed for it. Does it exist, if so does anyone have a link to it?
So noob question then...
I’m using Google Reader. Where do you go to sniff out RSS feeds from particular sites?
Nice Picture
Dog… tennis ball… swimming pool…
Seems oddly familiar to me.
by Oracle Galvez on Mar 4, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
OT Galloway is in Surprise for a week
and I’m looking forward to a few ant hills getting kicked over.
I imagine there will be a column on Josh, something on Michael, something with Hurdle and probably something that will make JD wince.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
and we will scurry with vigor
in order to bite the ankles of the opinion makers
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"And We Will Scurry With Vigor"
Isn’t that the title of the last Godspeed You! Black Emperor album?
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
Interesting and funny tidbit from their Wikipedia page:
The group was once misconstrued as being a band of terrorists.67 After stopping at a local gas station for fuel in the town of Ardmore, Oklahoma, during their 2003 tour of the United States, the station attendant working that day believed the group of Canadians to be terrorists.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
OT: We really don't care about your ant hills
FYI Galloway won’t be kicking them over he will be stumbling over them trying to get to his next drink.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
For fuck's sake you moron
Learn how to post a fucking image before you do more stupid shit like this.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Mar 4, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
dont’ throw a hissy…
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag
At least have a title so people can hide the fucking thing.
by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010 11:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Hide the thing
wasn’t that your parent’s philosophy when raising you?
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
That was my point
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Agreed
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
DILLIGAS
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
I rec'd it
and Rodney’s post above it.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Great story
tell it again
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Ok,
You’re a moron and a retarded cuntbag.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
by t ball on Mar 4, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
TBall
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Hey hey... Applied knowledge.
Nice Title.
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
Much better,
moron.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
x
Yesterday on his show he predicted 95 wins for the Rangers if everything breaks right and in the low 80s if they don’t, so I guess he will be right at the end of the year.
by GregoryM on Mar 4, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like we got us some O-Face inducing defense up the middle
sweet
Baseball announcer utters expletive on TV broadcast to describe Hideki Irabu’s ineptitude – network gets zero complaints
Cruz is lunching in the outfield
before the camera picks him up on fly balls. that’s how good he is.
Treatment might not be a bad option.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Feliz
I hope it’s not his velocity. I’ve never seen a guy have 8-9mph variation on his fastball in the same week.
OT: Victor Rojas is now the angels play by play!
Sad that he is out of the Rangers org but i guess good for him! He truly is one of the best play by play guys there is.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
So yesterday...
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Why are you even at the party??
JK. I dont get the liberty to spend all day on here.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
So don't come in
And act like you’re breaking news.
by brettgardner on Mar 4, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
-BREAKING NEWS-
Michael Jackson is dead at the age of 50.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Fire invented
film in about 10,000 years.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
MLBTR with the Rangers Offseason Review
Tim seems slightly optimistic about the team for the year.
I’m looking forward to the comments from that crowd.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Last paragraph
The Rangers deserve credit for a strong offseason. If they’re in contention midseason and need another piece, no team is better-positioned to trade for a star player.
Indeed, no team is better positioned to fill a need (assuming ownership transfer happens and enough money is available for 2-3 months of salary).
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
It'd be better
if you showed him doing jelloshots off topless coeds IMO.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
To be fair that makes pretty much everything better.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Mar 4, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1000
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
that card
needs 100% more of the big JC.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Hamilton
would be comfortable in either crowd it seems.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
which kind of prompts a topic i've been batting around for a while
Is Hammy a great big addict who just fell as we all do? Or is he a great big phony who uses Jesus as one crutch and his addiction as the other?
opine.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I think the former
I don’t want to turn this into a religious debate or argument, but I’d just like to offer this:
No Christian with any sort of understanding of faith and sin would tell you that the struggle, especially with addictions of all kinds, ends once you give your life to Christ. Those struggles can be constant, never-ending battles.
"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217
that's what makes us human
nobody is perfect. as long as we truly understand that Jesus is our lord and savior and we try to be better. as long as we seek salvation and guidance we are fine. must seek council and forgiveness. it is very important that he shares his past struggles and speaks out against addictions and witness for Jesus. If Hammy can turn just a handful of people to Jesus, then I’m sure his sins and addictions will be forgiven.
That said, if he struggles and relapses for the next 20 years and dies as an addict, I’m not really sure what will happen to him. But as long as he is genuine and asks for forgiveness I am sure he is fine.
Jesus is a great crutch to use. There is nothing wrong in asking Him for help. Now if he doesn’t truly believe what he has been saying and just uses it to obtain more money and fame, then he is no better than Pat Robertson.
Good statement but minus one BIG aspect
If Hammy goes out and shares is story to further the Kingdom of God and no one come to know Christ through his story, then he will still be “fine” and forgiven because it is the grace of God and the sacrifice of Christ on the cross that makes him “fine”, forgiven and saved from his sins, not what he “does”. “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and not of your selves, but a gift from God through the death of Christ Jesus”. Eph 2:8.
And if he struggles for the next 20 years battling this addiction, he is still saved through the grace of God and because Christ died for him, you, me and us all. Christ is not a crutch, thought many of us use it as one.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Mar 4, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
and that's where I can't decide on which side of the fence I fall
Anyone have any numbers on how many copies Beyond Belief has sold?
I don’t want to think that like. I want to believe his faith is true and heartfelt. I just hope he continues to walk to path. I don’t want to be jaded.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I'm sure there are some metrics out there that can tell us that right?
: )
"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.
You can ask heyzeus for help.
but you’re not going to get an answer. Dead people don’t talk.
What's up my little chicken pot pie?
Even though your face is huge, I love the shit out of you girl.
Girl with a big face,
I saw you at the bus stop,
From a mile away,
Even though it was really dark,
Girl with a big face I love you more each day,
Even though you're face,
Is as big as a dinner plate.
by JimCrankshaft on Mar 4, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
He's a big fat phony!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I really didn't care for your last album.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Plus
You named your kid Apple. What the hell’s up with that?
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
To be fair it'd be sweet if you changed your last name to Computers or maybe Bobbing or Rottingon-Thetree.
Jake names are the best.
If I’m ever cursed with a child, I’m naming it Horton.
Fuck yah.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Nice
If I ever have a son, I’m going with Stanford (after my grandfather) or Skeletor.
"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"
-- Sterling Archer
If its a girl would it be She-Ra ?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Spring training
other than mlb.tv.. anyone know any good sites to catch the games at work?
Will we be able to hear the game online at 105.3 The Fan?
I know it’s on the radio, but I’m not in Dallas so their online stream is all I have.
No they don't broadcast it online
Or atleast they didn’t last year.
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
yes, the Fan does have the game today
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/tex/schedule/broadcast.jsp
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Not online, though.
It would conflict with MLB’s subscription services. Why would anyone subscribe if you could get the game on the radio station’s website for free anywhere in the country?
During games last year, they played other content online.
ohhhh, that's so right!
I remember being pissed because I couldn’t listent to games at work last year
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
x
I went to this site last year and found most of the games to listen to:
by GregoryM on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
i get a Rangers snuggie because my wife signed me up for MLB insider
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
HA! Only in San Francisco folks would this happen...
T.L can pitch in that damn thing for all I care, he is indeed a GOD
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
His long hair reminds me of Kelly Leak
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
I've thought that, too
at various times looking at Lincecum.
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
He is a dead ringer
for the kid from Dazed and Confused.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
With a title for all the crybabies
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
OT: Cheap Lunch!
All Jimmy John’s Subs in the metromess have $1 sandwiches from 11-3pm today. Screw it, I am getting 2 :)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I know it's a $1 sandwich
but i hear JJ sucks.
Anyone have a preference?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
JJ rocks. Don't hate.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 4, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
YUP
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
JJ is awesome
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
yes especially for a buck
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
JJ's is alright
I prefer going to Jersey Mike’s though. I think overall it’s a better sandwich.
When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.
Which sandwiches?
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 4, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
All Gourmet Subs
Limit one per customer, no delivery
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Even the gargantuan?
If so, I know what I’m having for lunch.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 4, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
the ads never said 'excluding' anything, so I'd go for it.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Fantastic.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 4, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Just called the one close to downtown FW
The dollar deal (customer appreciation) only applies to 1 – 6 and the BLT.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
cool. Thanks!
that’s the one I’d be going to.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Damn.
I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!- Jurickson Profar 2/15/2010
by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 4, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Ticketing and marketing, huh?
seems like the team may need a revamp in those dept. anyway.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
someone had to pay
for “Built For Fun” and all the other aw shucks marketing that has failed over the years.
interesting...
Both positions are not expected to be filled after the transfer of ownership to the group led by Chuck Greenberg.
I take this to mean that it was less talent-poaching by other organizations, and more that these guys could see (or possibly were told) that they probably needed to find a new place to work with the new ownership coming in.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Law Chat...
Not a lot of Rangers specific stuff today
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Like everyone
He can’t wait to see J-Pro
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Mar 4, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
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How close was Profar to making your top 100? I know he’s yet to take a minor league AB, but neither has Miguel Sano. Can you compare the two? Thanks!
Klaw (1:17 PM)
He’d have been in the next 50, maybe the next 30.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Mar 4, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
That seems pretty reasonable
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does anyone know if the game is on XM?
If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.
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@Rotoworld_BB N. Johnson -1B-NYY: Johnson scratched due to stiff lower back http://tinyurl.com/ogzveh
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Yes.
It is interesting to me that a guy who came up in the organization as a defensive whiz, but with questions about his bat, seems to be generating more confidence with his bat than with his glove right now. The consensus seems to be that he’ll hit well enough, but folks are wondering about his fielding in center.
I’m not sure where that came from, but it’s bizarre. He fielded extremely well in the minors, scouts loved his defense, and then he comes up and plays a little below average (at least by UZR’s reckoning, haven’t seen +/- on him) in 46 MLB games and he’s a problem in center? Doesn’t make sense to put that much weight on such a small sample size. It’s possible his MiLB totals were an aberration, but you don’t assume the smaller sample is the more reliable sample until it’s not the smaller sample anymore.
CHONE, btw, likes him for a 13.7 UZR/150 in 2010.
Wash related
I’ve always felt this was Wash-related in an attempt to either justify playing Byrd in CF or in an effort to do good by a vet (a Wash staple) to put Byrd in the best light in terms of bringing him back.
Combine that with a pretty standard handling of rookies by making them realize just home much they need to work on to become true Major League ballplayers and this whole “he sucks defensively” gets blown WAY out of proportion.
100% agreed
I feel the same way about what Pettis said. He either wanted Byrd back, too, or he was following instructions from Wash.
Pettis may well be right.
It seems pretty obvious that Borbon’s arm, in particular, is sad.
But Pettis could be right and Borbon could still be a good fielder.
Yesterday, Norm said that he has an odd grip
He uses a slider-like grip when throwing, which make his throws go offline. Either a Ranger employee or scout told him this, fwiw. I wonder if that’s where some of the “noodle arm” appearance come from.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I think it's dangerous to assume Borbon will hit well
I think he’ll field adequately, with a few oh no moments here and there, but I think it’s pretty unreasonable to just assume he’s going to get on base well enough to be a major league leadoff hitter this year. Sure, it could happen, it won’t even surprise me if it happens, but I’m not going to just assume it.
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