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COWBOYS RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

The deadline has passed and Jerry Jones and the Cowboys have decided which restricted free agents they want to tender contracts to. Here's how it breaks down:

Position Player Tender
WR Miles Austin First and third round, $3.168M
WR Sam Hurd Second round, $1.759M
DE Stephen Bowen Second round, $1.759M
DE Jason Hatcher Second round, $1.759M
G Cory Procter Second round, $1.809M
S Gerald Sensabaugh Second round, $1.809M
DE Marcus Spears Original tender (1st round), $1.226M
T Pat McQuistan Original tender (7th round), $1.176M
C/G Duke Preston Original tender (4th round), $1.226M
DT Junior Siavii Original tender (2nd round), $1.226M
S Pat Watkins Original tender (5th round), $1.226M
CB Cletis Gordon Signed to 1-year contract
K Shaun Suisham Not tendered

 

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No cap this year.

Right?

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Mar 4, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you read the rules, though?

The Cowboys, along with the other final 8 teams in the playoffs, have alot of restrictions in signing free agents. They’re pretty hancuffed.

by octoberty on Mar 4, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Only a little bit.

They’ll still be able to make some noise. That $3.7 million dollar tender can still get you quite a bit. Especially when you factor in that that number can go up by 30% in each year of the contract. See Chris Canty’s contract he signed with the Giants. The Cowboys won’t be as handcuffed as people think, they just won’t be able to go completely apeshit.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 4, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's more a question of...

…what spots can they legitimately upgrade? Seems like they would have to cut a guy to sign a big name player- not just for finances, but for playing time. If you want Rolle, Hamlin or Sensi has to go. If you want Dansby, then James or Brooking (no!) have to go.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

It's pretty much understood that everybody wants Hamlin gone.

I am praying we cut him, actually. Really the only positions that need upgrading are the O-line, Free Safety, and Wide Receiver. Jerry is being pretty bullish on Roy though, so I don’t see that one happening. Still, that’s another great thing about the uncapped year. You can use it to shed bad contracts.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 5, 2010 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but look at last year.

This defense wasn’t as good without Hamlin in there. I think he brings more from a leadership standpoint, especially on the field in the secondary, than he does playing the position of FS. I agree that it’s the easiest place to upgrade because of the lack of turnovers, but there’s more to the position than just that.

I still think Roy could work out of the team, just as a No. 2 unfortunately. The O-line needs to be reinforced, but the emergence of Free makes that less of an issue. They need a better backup C, theoretically a draft pick who could fill in for Kosier this year and be ready to take over for Gurode in the future.

So that narrows it down to DE or S…which is interesting considering the tenders. Looks like one of Bowen or Spears is getting traded.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

They weren't as good without Hamlin, sure.

But that’s not saying much, because all of the backups at FS are so piss poor. We need to be getting more out of that position. There is a huge hole back there. We need somebody who can spread the field, make plays, and not let anybody get behind him. Hamlin is just not that guy.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 5, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Panthers cut Delhomme.

I thought that was the obvious move. Matt Moore has shown enough to get a shot.

by brettgardner on Mar 4, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions  

and Vick will be their opening day starter

there is no way Steve Smith will stick around quietly with Matt Moore as the starting QB

by blueballlefty on Mar 4, 2010 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh

Vick sucks. Why would any receiver want him?

by brettgardner on Mar 4, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The dude cannot put any touch on the ball.

He’s got a fucking cannon but can’t do anything but chuck it as hard as he can, no matter the distance.

I’m pretty sure receivers are afraid of him.

by philkid3 on Mar 5, 2010 2:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, we know dogs are

"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Mar 5, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

The Browns need to trade for him

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Vick

Figured I’d go for the joke instead of calling him a motherfucking douchebag who got off easy- 2 years in prison and he gets to go back to the NFL?

Plaxico got the same punishment for being nothing more than a dumb-ass. I know, two different jurisdictions, but how in the hell are running a dogfighting ring and carrying an unlicensed firearm even remotely similar crimes in the eyes of any justice system?

Not to go off on a rant, but that’s seriously fucked up.

"Jesus, Spanish- our jobs aren't enough, now you want our words?"

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Mar 5, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

vick was stupid anyway

his other 2 guys who were in it w/ him pled out ahead of time and left vick as the last one to try to make a deal

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

...how often do professional sports "stars"

go to prison?

…especially for something like that

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Carrying an unlicensed firearm

to a crowded bar where everyone is drinking and tensions can rise quickly. I don’t see how 2 years in prison is getting off easy, for either of them. That’s a serious punishment. By no means would you call that a ‘slap on the wrist’.

"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"

by trident on Mar 10, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

heh
I’m pretty sure receivers are afraid of him.

made me laugh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Fixed.
I’m pretty sure receivers retrievers are afraid of him.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 5, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

Cleveland traded Corey Williams to Detroit, which I guess could have some impact on the draft.

Jets get Cromartie for a third that could turn into a second.

And I hope we go get Rolle.

by brettgardner on Mar 4, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I hate the freaking Jets.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Mar 4, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

That secondary is going to be amazing

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 4, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Cromartie has taken a few steps back...

…from that initial run of greatness he had. Which, of course, is why the Chargers were willing to trade him for a 3rd.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

It wasn't just on the field, either...

via rotoworld

New Jets CB Antonio Cromartie’s drivers license application has been withheld in San Diego after he twice failed to appear for traffic ticket cases and hasn’t paid $799 in fines.
Mayor Bloomberg is gonna love this guy. Cromartie is also scheduled to appear in a San Diego court late this month for overdue child support to one of the six mothers of his seven kids. It’s believed he owes at least $25,000, and has been named in five paternity suits over the last three years.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 7:17 AM CST up reply actions  

holy god

dude…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

assuming cromarte stays healthy

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Seconded.
And I hope we go get Rolle.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 4, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

x

“I just talked to Antrell Rolle!!” Dockett tweeted regarding his longtime teammate. “And I already know what’s about to happen, man I’m speechless I’m going to Bed. I’m done with twitter BYE!”


 
Apparently he was at the Lakers-Heat game in Miami…

by octoberty on Mar 4, 2010 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

Google News Search...

…suggests the NYGiants are going to offer him a huge deal. That would suck…Rolle is really good, though he can take too many risks from time to time. Still, adding Rolle to a fully, healthy Giants secondary would make them pretty darn good. I was holding out some small hope he’d sign with the Cowboys…this is basically worst case scenario. I guess I can hope he signs for way too much money…

I’d much, much rather he sign with the Bears or Dolphins.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

We can't sign him.
The Cowboys are both limited and liberated by the uncapped rules. Because they’re a “Final Eight” team, they can sign only one unrestricted free agent to a starting salary of at least $5.81 million and an unlimited group at less than $3.86 million.

by octoberty on Mar 4, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

He could be the one big sign. But as I pointed out above, it would involve getting rid of one of our current safeties. From a marginal gain standpoint, I’m not sure it’s worth it. From the standpoint of Jerry Jones has really mother effing deep pockets, why not?

I just don’t want Rolle to end up in the division if we can’t get him. Come on Miami!

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Also...

…none of the Cowboys moves last year were of the blockbuster variety, but you saw how big a difference Sensi and Brooking made.

I mentioned it below, but getting Williams in here as a backup NT to Ratliff for the $3.8 million plus 30% increases over the next year or two would be a fantastic move for a guy who’s going to be transitioning into more of a time-share role anyways.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

who williams?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry.

Jamal Williams. One of the better 3-4 NT’s of the decade. Older though, I don’t think you’d want him as your starter…fortunately the Cowboys already have an All-Pro NT.

Totally different style though, Williams is the big huge space eater that anchored their run defense (which is part of the reason why the SD run defense tanked last year).

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

realized that down below

from waht i understand/have read in part they let him go to go after a more pash rushing NT as opposed to the space eating kind

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

And they don't think he can play more than 30 snaps/game.

So they didn’t want to pay him $6 million. Which is a rational decision…but you have to wonder how their run defense is going to be next year if they don’t start adding players instead of subtracting.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

...yea

im guessing they are going to go for “lets blow the doors off the other team and not even try to run the ball” next year w/ vjax, floyd, sproles, rivers, gates, etc

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Looks like Bears are out on Rolle.

But may have gotten Peppers away from the Snyder Brinks truck.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

x
…Despite the fact that Marcus Spears played reasonably well as the starting defensive end in 2010, his tender offer ($1.226 million) is lower than two backup defensive ends, Jason Hatcher and Stephen Bowen. Their offers were roughly $500,000 higher than Spears’.

It’s almost like Jones is daring a team (Dolphins?) to sign Spears to an offer sheet. And just to be clear, the Cowboys would only receive second-round compensation for Spears, a former first-round selection…

by octoberty on Mar 4, 2010 11:07 PM CST reply actions  

Definitely.

Bowen and Hatchers are far from awful as emergency plans and they could always address it with their first round pick, where there seems to be a grouping of 3-4 DE’s.

Also, the safeties that I’m interested in (the non-Berry/Thomas ones) are likely to be picked in that mid 2nd round range that the Cowboys would currently have to trade up to get.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Just not Taylor Mays early

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 4, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Just say no.

to Taylor “Second Coming of OU’s Roy Williams” Mays.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

except roy williams

had some idea waht he was doing out there

man id LOVE to get berry…or suh. :(

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong...

..Suh is awesome, but I’m not sure how he’d fit into a 3-4, specifically this one.

Berry on the other hand, would be great. Reports from the scouting combine suggest that he could step into an NFL defense right away and not get burned in coverage…and that goes with a pretty high ceiling.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

oh no just in general

im a huge fan of suh

for the cowboys berry would be a better pick over suh clearly

i just reallyreallyreally hpe they dont get mays.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Me too.

Rafael Vela over at bloggingtheboys made an interesting case for Pouncey as their first pick…I’m intrigued.

It’s weird to think that Pittsburgh and Dallas could be looking at the same group of players even though they are 10 spots apart (Pouncey, Iupati, etc).

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

i cant even think of the last time i went to BTB

wow

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

I haven’t heard this? If so, then I hope they figure out some way to get Thomas. Or maybe they go after Rolle? Hmm…not sure. They could probably get Rolle for how much Hamlin is costing them (or a little more).

I’m not sure they want to trade up to where they would need to in order to get Thomas and I’m not sure the upper/mid 2nd round guys would be ready to step in right away. With Michael Hamlin (last year’s draft) being slotted in as backup SS, I’m not sure I’d want to start the season with a competition between Ball and whoever they draft.

That’s just odd…as much as Hamlin was lacking in the interception department, the secondary was much better when he was in there.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely

But he’s an average player. Who would give that up?

by Conjunction on Mar 5, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, The Giants threw away $42 million to a lesser player in Chris Canty..

I’ve seen weirder things. Miami, Parcells’ ass is the one who drafted him.

by TooLegitToQuit on Mar 5, 2010 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Poor Raider fans

They placed a 3rd round tender on Morrison ( who is actually good at football) 2nd rounder on Gradkowski (who is not) and a 1st and 3rd on Stanford Routt (who I didn’t know existed.)

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 PM CST reply actions  

Rec'd

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 4, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Sadly...

this is exactly the logic behind that move.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 5, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

+1 on Routt

Have no clue who he is.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Mar 4, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Michael Lombardi had this to say about it...
Routt is the Raiders’ latest lottery winner. The Raiders tendered their backup corner a first and third tender, which was more than five times what he made last year. This completely irrational and illogical behavior tells the tale of what’s wrong with the Raiders. Why would they even think a team in the NFL would take Routt from them for his original draft position, which was a second-round pick? (Seriously, I got at least 10 texts yesterday from former Raiders coaches laughing about the tender.)

by octoberty on Mar 4, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

More proof...

…that zombies shouldn’t run football teams.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I feel bad for SLC

this is ridiculous.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 4, 2010 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I have gotten to the point now...

that it’s so painful it’s hilarious. Raiders fans like Wyo and myself can’t do anything other than hope Davis dies and the team gets someone in there who knows what they’re doing.

Until then, the NFL is just a non-factor.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 5, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Who's the heir?

I know when Jerry goes, the Cowboys are in good hands with Stephen Jones.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would the undead...

…need an heir?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep...

I haven’t even bothered to worry about it because it seems like that son of a bitch is never going to die. I believe he has a son, not sure if he would take over for his old man or not though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 5, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

lottery winner

for this offseason has got to be sproles

hes going to earn 14mm and change over last year and this year.

wowwwwwwwwww

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Nah...

Peppers. He’s going to get a lot of money for potential that he hasn’t been fulfilling consistently for quite some time…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

except that the potential is there

im a HUGE fan of sproles, but if he was my teams starting RB i wouldnt be happy

it also may be chester taylor, who evidently has multiple offers of at least 8mm guaranteed.

the vikes should have franchised him

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed on the Taylor franchise.

And that Sproles should be considered a Felix-type back who needs significant time-sharing, even if he is the ‘feature’ back.

I like that you know what you’re getting (limitations and positives) when Sproles is on the field. You never quite know with Peppers…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

yea

but sproles will never be the best RB in the league (read somewhere hes averaged like 70-72ish touches from line of scrimmage the last 2-3 years lol)

peppers could be the best DL in football. id love to see him with the cowboys but never will happen :(

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh..pass.

Effort matters, plus the positions are taken.

I’d be much more interested in Seymour (if he had been a FA) or Rolle or Sharper…I think we’ve forgotten how good the Cowboys were on defense last year, especially as the season progressed.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

if they sign sharper

they are in deep shit. guy got INT but was simply not good tackling players.

IIRC both of the long TDs they gave up early in the games in the playoffs were due to missed tackles/bad routes by sharper.

overall last year sharper was just not that good…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but this team needs more interceptions from it's safeties...

…especially with how deep Hamlin plays some of the time. I really do think that Sharper could have a similar role as Hamlin, but provide more turnovers. I just don’t know if it makes sense given the age discrepancies.

Still, to add players who get more turnovers, you’re going to need to take on guys who gamble a little more.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

he had a hell of a lucky year

to me id rather have e berry…but thats just me heh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

thanks?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 6, 2010 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't wait for the draft.

So I can see who Al Davis wastes the number 8 overall pick on this year. I’m going to say either Bruce Campbell, Taylor Mays, or Jacoby Ford.

That guy is so stupid it’s comical. Poor Raiders fans indeed.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 4, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

i bet its mays

maybe he will go before berry

mays over berry

AND

heyward-bay over crabtree

oakland may burn to the ground

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

i have yet to understand

what their deal with morrison is

morrison is not at ALL bad.

gradkowiski (who is not good) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jamarcus russell

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

JaMarcus Russell...

…just so bad. It’s like a train wreck that I couldn’t stop watching a couple times last year (Houston, Dallas) and I can’t believe they still might stick with him as a starter.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

grakowiski

just is so much better than him

i mean who would you rather have running the cowboys? quincy carter or russell? id think 10 of 10 cowboys fans would say carter. i would rather have almost any QB on an NFL roster starting for my team than russell

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

It's really true.

Give me Chris Redman or Keith Null…literally, anyone.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

long live clint stoerner!

who is a minor celeb here in arkansas lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I would take Ryan Leaf over Jamarcus Russell.

He is literally the shittiest QB I’ve ever seen.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 5, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Fixed that for you.

He is literally the shittiest laziest QB I’ve ever seen.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
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by AceJC on Mar 7, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone else see...

…that Jamal Williams, the Chargers NT who has been fantastic until slowed by injuries the past year or two, was released by the Chargers? Turns out, he was going to make $6 million this year and they didn’t want to pay him that because they think he needs to be sharing a lot more snaps than before. They still want to sign him back, though, just for a lesser amount.

I would LOVE to see the Cowboys pick him up as a replacement for Siavii behind Ratliff. That dude was one of my favorite players from the aughts…

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by GhettoBear04 on Mar 4, 2010 11:32 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, he was pretty super-beasty there for a while

Plus there’s the Wade connection, so that’s nice.

Wonder if they had good feelers on Jamal before putting the lower tender on Spears. I know they play different spots, but Spears stayed in the backup NT discussion for a long time for some reason, and bring in Williams would allow Rats to move over to DE part-time- it adds up a little.

I’d certainly take a second and Jamal Williams for Spears (although it’s more likely we negotiate a trade with whoever- the Dolphins- would want him for a lower pick, in my estimation.)

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by Keynes on Mar 5, 2010 6:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

chargers

tried to trade him, but had no takers

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Fucking Jets...

Revis and Cromartie? Yikes.

by cmkelly29 on Mar 5, 2010 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

fucking cowboys

drop folk
non tender suisham

whose going to be their kicker next year? ocho cinco? doug flutie?

…maybe they will just have mcbriar drop kick the extra points

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 10:52 AM CST reply actions  

duh

completely forgot about him haha

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Kicker

Can anyone answer this for me- why do football teams need separate players to kick off, kick field goals, and punt?

Is kicking so specialized that it’s not possible to develop someone to handle all three duties? Just seems like if you had one guy to do all the kicking stuff, that would free up an extra roster spot or two that you could use for added depth elsewhere.

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by RCCook on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

they had buhler last year

because of the effect he could put on the field position game (clearly worked out well)

i believe mcbriar has kicked for the cowboys in the past (long FG maybe a couple of years ago?)

very few teams roll with 3 kickers — but the question is…is it worth it to have an extra special teams guy/3rd string LB over a FG kicker?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Most teams have...

…one guy for field goals and kicking off. There is one guy who tried to fill all 3 roles (I think for the Falcons last year or the year before?) recently, but generally punting is considered to be very different from kicking so 2 guys are needed. I’m guessing it has to do with a flexibility vs leg strength thing, but I could be wrong.

The Cowboys had separate field goal and kick off guys last year because they were truly terrible on getting touchbacks the year before, so they drafted a guy specifically for kickoffs. It’s kind of a more progressive view of things as special teams in football is probably like defense in baseball. Still, the only way they could make it fit for the roster limits was that Buehler (the kickoff specialist) is also quite athletic and plays on the other special teams units (he’s quite fast).

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

dont forget the jets kicker in playoffs!

haha

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

this seems like an odd question

with the simple answer being specialization is obviously better and you have to weigh that against roster spots

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Anything new on the Mcnabb front?

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by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

Last I saw...

…the Front Office is willing to trade him. Andry Reid, not so much.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

they would be stupid not to trade 1 of their current 3

and kolb can def step in for mcnabb at a lot lower cost

now theres a guy i wouldnt mind QBing the cowboys (kolb) — id be interested to see if they trade kolb and roll with mcnabb/vick next year.

if im out there and need a QB and arent sold on anyone outside of the top 2 QBs id jump ALL over kolb.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh.

Backup QB syndrome.

I mean, I think Kolb will be good, but is there any evidence to say he will be better than say..Matt Schaub? I’d rather have Romo than Schaub and pretty much any of those ‘almost efficient enough’ QBs.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

romo

is consistantly inconsistent.

granted imho he took a big step forward at the end of last year

but im a huge kolb fan (same for schaub)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Romo has room to improve...

…but is rapidly approaching what he is. He’s going to have 2-3 bad games a year, but so is everyone outside the top 3/4. I think he’s firmly in the next tier with Rodgers, Roethlishamburgler, Favre, Warner, McNabb, and maybe Cutler (though he probably fell out of this tier after last year) with Ryan and possibly Flacco on the come.

I’m hoping he continues his development to get to the Rivers level, but I’m not sure he’ll get there. Certainly he’s good enough to win a SB with, though…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

the issue is that

i think hes in the middle of that tier — id rather have him than flacco/ryanmcnabb/warner/farve going forward, and hes a toss up with rodgers/big ben

idk if he will be on rivers level but yea hes good enough to win a SB with

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Nate Burleson good?

He’s never impressed me and yet he keeps getting fairly sizable contracts.

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by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

+1

was at kyle V.B. (tenn DL) house last night right after the deadline

would be a great pickup if they take a DL

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

heh negative

not i

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

Me too. I said it before, but they’re my “enjoy watching how they progress” team, because they’ve recently begun making shrewd moves after a terribly gloomy time (even for the Lions).

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

But

their owner is still a dumbass.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Mar 5, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

That's one way to look at it.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Mar 5, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

It's crazy to think that..

…they could theoretically add Suh and Odrick to Vanden Bosch and have a beastly front 4.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

He's good...

…as long as he isn’t the main option. As a speed option behind Megatron and maybe even Pettigrew, who really impressed as the season went on before he got hurt, that’s a good role for him.

Echoing above thoughts, I like what Detroit is doing. I can’t for the life of me figure out what the Texans are doing as they could be legit contenders if they splurged this offseason with their needs matching up well with available free agents. If they added Rolle, Vandenbosch, and Mawae (shorter term), and a 1st round CB and 2nd round RB, they could probably hit 11 wins next year.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Bears get Chester, Peppers next
Bears agreed to terms with RB Chester Taylor on a four-year, $12.5 million contract, including $7 million guaranteed.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Whither Matt Forte?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Taylor has always been a great pass blocking RB

Where Forte has not been. Good deal (and takes a key player away from a division rival)

Besides, gotta give Jay Cutler more time to find an opposite jersey to throw to

Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!

by Smoak Some on Mar 5, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like Dunta Robinson to the Falcons
NFL.com’s Steve Wyche reports that free agent Dunta Robinson’s contract with the Falcons will be done by Sunday.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

Hmm.

I know he isn’t worth big money to the Texans, but it sure does seem that they spend most of the day with a thumb planted firmly in their ass.

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow
Adam_Schefter: Filed to ESPN: Seattle is strongly considering signing Broncos restricted free-agent WR Brandon Marshall. A huge move.

If Seattle signs Marshall to an offer sheet and the Broncos don’t match it, they will in return get the 6th pick in the draft back, giving them 2 picks in the first 15 picks

Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!

by Smoak Some on Mar 5, 2010 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

It isn't ridiculous

Brandon Marshall in really, really good and just now entering the prime of his career.

And Seattle still has Denver’s original 1st.

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That being said

I’d feel even better about it if they had a QB.

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but...

…this is not in a vacuum. He’s really good and he causes trouble in the locker room. Plus he’s going to cost ca$h money.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He causes trouble in the locker room?

There may very well be something I don’t know, but it seems like his trouble is mostly personal/legal, and then he just hasn’t gotten along with McDaniels. What else are you referring to?

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

that was always my impression as well

that said, is he worth the 6th pick overall?

…im not so sure (especially if your SEA)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think so.

But I think so only if you think you’re close to really competing, which having the 6th pick sorta indicates is not the case.

Actually, yeah, I feel pretty strongly that with decrease in risk from a rookie to a a Pro-Bowler that you’re much more likely to get your money’s worth. Considering Seattle still would own another relatively good 1st and a second, I wouldn’t cry if I were a fan and they did that.

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

the issue is if you get him and you end up with

seneca wallace as your starting QB due to injuries your kinda screwed

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 6, 2010 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

No...

…he got the Baby TO moniker before McDaniels. He has complained about getting touches before, too.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

That causes problems in the locker room?

I guess I’m not following. It seems like a big assumption on your part.

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

x
According to the Denver Post, the Broncos are engaged in trade discussions with several teams for restricted free agent Brandon Marshall.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Here we go again...
TMZ.com reports that Ben Roethlisberger has been accused of sexually assaulting “a young woman in Georgia.”

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Going the Kobe Bryant route, I see.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 5, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you read the transcript for that?

It’s amazing.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

It could be worse.

The headline could be:

TMZ.com reports that Ben Roethlisberger has been accused of sexually assaulting "an elderly man in Georgia."

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

x
Scout.com reports that the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys are showing interest in restricted free agent FS Antoine Bethea.

Would cost our 1st round pick.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

Eek.

He is pretty good, though.

by brettgardner on Mar 5, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

yea thats not a bad move

could be worse

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

In that scenario

The team likely wouldn’t straight-up sign him to him an offer sheet; they’d work out a trade with the Colts for a slightly less valuable draft pick.
Same goes for Sensebaugh, who teams reportedly have ‘interest’ in… I don’t know if anyone will surrender a 2, but I could see quite a few offering their third.

by Conjunction on Mar 6, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

my god

boldin/moss/welker?

…wow

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 5, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Welker isn't coming back till 2011

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by Brian Thomas on Mar 5, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

damn

didnt know taht

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 6, 2010 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure I can live in a world where the Lions might be decent again.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Mar 5, 2010 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

Again?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Right...

My point was more that he had trouble living in a world where the Lions were decent in the first place. Who has kept a long-standing grudge against the Lions to the degree that they root against them being good again? Isn’t that like actively rooting against the Royals or Pirates?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 7, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm, via BTB

Schefter saying the Ravens are close to a trade for Boldin. Boldin + Stallworth certainly makes more sense than Stallworth + Walter.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 5, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions  

Done deal.. via rotoworld
Ravens acquired WR Anquan Boldin and a 2010 fifth-round pick from the Cardinals in exchange for third- and fourth-round picks in this year’s draft.
Boldin signed a four-year, $28M contract upon completion of the trade.

by octoberty on Mar 5, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Boldin and 5th rounder to the Ravens

for a 3 & 4?

Helluva deal

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Mar 5, 2010 5:48 PM CST reply actions  

Homer to Jeebus
Filed to ESPN: Giants reach agreement with S Antrel Rolle — 5 year deal for $37 million, including $15 million gtd.

per Schefter

Highest paid NFL safety ever.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

For the Giants?

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, same here.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 5, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I know what you're getting at.

I still don’t think he’s going to fall to us.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 5, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

berry?

pleasedontsaymays

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 6, 2010 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Berry isn't happening, no way in Hell lol.

I think my head would literally explode. Hell no to Mays. I was talking about Earl Thomas.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 6, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

ahh

id be ok with earl

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 6, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Too much money…he’s an interesting piece and he makes them better with their depth issues and their dependence on the return to health of certain players…but what a cost.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 7, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

x
Adam_Schefter Filed to ESPN: Arizona trades a fourth-round pick this year and a seventh next year for Jets S Kerry Rhodes.

by octoberty on Mar 6, 2010 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

That's an upgrade over Rolle

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 6, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

what a deal for cincy

-role’s salary, 4th, 7th for rolle

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 6, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

zona

oops

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

You know what?

I think you might be right.

But I’m still scared of Leinart.

by brettgardner on Mar 6, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Not if they don't get him straightened out...

…I think I read that the Jets started limiting his snaps towards the end of the year.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 7, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

damn

i wish we would have traded for him…

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Mar 6, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, me too

He’s rated as an excellent safety in every season. Who knows, though… if Rex Ryan found reason to bench the guy, there might be something wrong with him…

by Conjunction on Mar 6, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Jared Gaither anyone?

via rotoworld

After assigning him just a first-round tender, the Ravens are believed to be willing to move restricted free agent LT Jared Gaither.
Gaither would’ve gotten the first- and third-round tender if the Ravens were truly intent on keeping him. The Ravens want to move Michael Oher to left tackle. The Baltimore Sun suggests four possible destinations for Gaither: San Francisco, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Seattle. Teams targeting Gaither could probably work out a deal for less than the first-round pick

by octoberty on Mar 7, 2010 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

Unless of course we could work out a trade for something slightly less.

But if they would only take the first rounder for him I’d still do it.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 7, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

easily

27th for gaither? that’s a no brainer…

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Mar 7, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Nevermind that there are reports that interested teams might be able to work out a trade for something less than a first, which would allow us to maybe pick up somebody like Earl Thomas, Mike Iupati, or Golden Tate (depending on what else we decide to do in the draft or FA). The fact is, if they don’t try to make a play for a FS in the first then Gaither is a better option than any O-lineman that will be available at 27 when we pick.

It really is a no brainer. We could possibly work out a trade and get him for less than a first, go sign O.J. Atogwe from the Rams and not have to surrender any picks to do so, and use our first rounder on Golden Tate. We just upgraded OT, FS, and WR, and it cost us maybe a 2nd and a 4th or something like that. Even if we did have to give up a first for him then we could still just go sign Atogwe, and use our 2nd rounder on another position of need such as OG, DE, KR/PR, whatever. I really like this idea, and I sincerely hope this is the way they decide to go, but you never know what Jerry is going to do.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 7, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

2nd and a 4th for Gaither is what I meant.

The first rounder still gets spent on whoever they decide to take there. You get my point though.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 7, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Lions closing in on Chris Houston for a 6th round pick

They are making a ton of good moves.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 7, 2010 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Well

Don’t you think the best-case scenario is a 4th rounder? Is that worth it for Dallas? I mean, it might be if you think he has nothing left.

by brettgardner on Mar 7, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

If they want to trade Barber some team will give up more than a 4th.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 7, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

really?

i think a team would give up a 3 maybe a 2 in a sec

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by Longhorn on Mar 7, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Mar 7, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Detroit's 4th would satisfy me

It’s pretty much the same as our 3rd pick.

by octoberty on Mar 8, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

well

he’s still a young, power back who’s an above average YPR guy and can catch the ball out of the backfield. With his knack of getting in the endzone, and his still pretty good RB skills…i think a team will give up more than a 4 for him…

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe a 3, but even then...

…I don’t think so. Even if he wasn’t the bruising style back who seem to wear down quicker than an LdT/Chester Taylor/Westbrook type who gets to play out in the flats and avoid big hits more, he still has a decent-sized contract.

Why would a team give up a 3rd and pay him when they could just draft a Ryan Matthews, Ben Tate, etc in the 2nd (or someone else later) and get a young back for the duration of their effectiveness at a cheap price?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 8, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah

I doubt it. He’s not especially effective, has injury problems, and is being paid a boatload.

by Conjunction on Mar 8, 2010 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

Maybe we could get their second rounder if we gave them Barber and a 4th or something.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 7, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Ben Roethlisberger

Why am I not surprised?

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Mar 8, 2010 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

Norm:

The Lions are one of the losers of FA so far.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 9, 2010 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I disagree

Vanden Bosch, Williams, and Suh or McCoy makes their line pretty respectable, possibly scary. I don’t know why he’s fretting over a 6th rounder for Williams who was a pretty good player 2 years ago. Michael Lombardi liked the deal, saying Williams just didn’t fit the schemes the Browns ran.

by octoberty on Mar 9, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

?????

That’s odd. I know Vanden Bosch had a bad year last year, but would it really be that surprising if he weren’t significantly better this year? I think the move for Williams is also good, falling into the low-risk, nice-reward category. Sure, they probably paid Burleson a little too much, but he’s fine as a No. 2 receiver, especially considering the arm strength of Stafford, the reduced coverage he’ll see playing across from Megatron, and that he may actually be their 3rd receiving option depending on how Pettigrew heals.

Throw in a Suh or McCoy plus the rest of what I assume will be a decent draft class considering their position and performance last year, and I think the Lions will be respectable next year. Tough division though…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 9, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Now if they can just get a RB, shore up their offensive line, add a couple more LB’s (they already have Julian Peterson), and shore up their secondary (which they’ve somewhat done) they might actually be able to win a few games.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 9, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

Vanden Bosch and Burleson are quality players, although they were overpaid by a bit. Corey Williams and Chris Houston are two additions with upside who cost very little. Call me crazy, but I could easily see the Lions being respectable next year.

by Conjunction on Mar 9, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

dont you think you have to overpay a bit

to get quality players to play for the lions?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Norm wouldn't

He’d dad joke them into submission.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

Thomas Jones to KC for super cheap.

by brettgardner on Mar 9, 2010 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

Jarvis Green and Jamal Williams in one day for the Broncos
Broncos signed NT Jamal Williams, formerly of the Chargers, to a three-year, $16 million contract with $7 million guaranteed.

by octoberty on Mar 9, 2010 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

Good move for them

Great DTs can play for a while.

by Conjunction on Mar 9, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

too bad williams is not a great DT

heh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Woah...

…that’s a good way to address your run defense deficiencies pretty quickly. Although, you have to hope for improved health from Williams. Still, good moves.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 9, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

In their latest mocks...

…Kiper has us getting Earl Thomas and McShay OT Charles Brown from USC

Kiper: At the combine, Thomas answered questions I had raised about his size. Although the Boys could use a tackle, if a top one isn’t available here, the Texas product is a great fit for the Cowboys as a playmaker with cover skills at the safety position.

McShay: Brown is a bit of a reach here, but his size and athletic ability give him the potential to develop into starting left tackle. With Flozell Adams on the downside of his career, Brown gives the Cowboys an insurance policy at the position.

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2010 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

McShay is a moron

just a absolute idiot. Kiper, i like… :)

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Mar 10, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Not interested in Brown.

Obviously, I like Thomas. My ranking of somewhat unreasonable to reasonable picks is probably Thomas, Iupati, Pouncey, O’Drick for the first round right now. Not that it means a whole lot…

I just don’t see Thomas falling to us, especially with Philly sitting a few spots above us. I did think that Mays to CIncy was an interesting choice, not sure I had seen that anywhere else, but I could see him filling Roy Williams (S) recently vacated role pretty quickly there. Oh, I also like the Witherspoon to NOLa pick with them really needing some LBs now. Though, Philly could be a player for Witherspoon as well.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

philly just signed marlin williams to play FS for them

as of earlier today

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, saw that after I posted.

That’s an…interesting…decision. He’s coming off an ACL injury and he’s really only been a safety when forced into the role because of injury to the Colts’ safeties. Also, I think they like Macho Harris who’s another S/CB hybrid.

I dunno…maybe this just lets them take BPA, but I agree that S moves down the list for them.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't aware that Charles Brown's size had Starting LT written all over it.

Matter of fact, that’s the reason I wouldn’t even give drafting him a single thought.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Bengals agreed to terms with WR Antonio Bryant on a four-year, $28 million contract.

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2010 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

Bummer

I wanted to see Owens with Ocho

The better signing no doubt though.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 10, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I know what Jerry's up to...
Rutgers OT Anthony Davis did not work out at the Scarlet Knights’ Pro Day Wednesday, allegedly due to a “stomach virus.”

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2010 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

hey "hiding" players didnt work for the rangers

wonder if it works in the NFL? …heh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

how did the whole paul pod thing work out lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoa

via Rotworld…

Abilene Christian OT Tony Washington reportedly had sex with his 15-year-old biological sister when he was 16, and is a registered sex offender.
It’s believed the sexual act, which occurred in May 2003, was consensual. “I made a mistake at the age of 16, and for that, I am deeply sorry,” he said in a statement. “I will not try and excuse or justify anything.” Washington, who might be a first-round prospect based on size, length, and athleticism alone, was a big recruit at LSU in 2005. He originally received five years’ probation and no jail time. Washington is reportedly now on good terms with the sister.

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2010 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

Was she hot?

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 10, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh
Washington is reportedly now on good terms with the sister.

I would say so.

Ready for some baseball.

by TXHC on Mar 10, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Rumors like that especially come out for high profile people.

With the laws sex offenders have to abide by and the zealousness of certain groups, someone will know if you’re sex offender and will more then likely let everyone around you know soon.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 11, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

So...Earl Thomas pick guessing.

Jacksonville becomes more likely with the Kampman signing since they don’t need a DE now. Seems a bit high for Thomas though…

NYGiants are out with the Rolle signing. Arizona’s out because of the Rhodes trade. Houston seemed like a possibility to me, but their inability to address their holes at RB or CB through free agency suggest that one of their first two picks will go there. That seems to be the consensus from the local radio guys, too. Philly is probably out now that they’ve signed Marlin Jackson to go with Mikell, Demps and Macho Harris. Some had guessed Baltimore would think safety as a precaution for Ed Reed’s injury history, but it seems unlikely they would use a first on that and what I’m reading suggests that they will focus on CB and TE for the first pick.

So who’s left? SF has two picks, but has other needs (RT and OLB). Pittsburgh just resigned Clark. The Dolphins are a definite possibility. They need an NT more with Ferguson suspended the first 8 games, but I’m not sure if Parcells would take a NT with the first pick. So they’re probably the biggest risk. Maybe Atlanta now that they’ve poured money into CB?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 11, 2010 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

a side note

but id be somewhat interested in bringing sean jones (played last year for philly, was pretty damn good in CLE 2 years ago) at some point

obviously depending on how his knee looks and if the team thinks he can get back to where he was 2 yrs ago…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

SF has to make a big play for McNabb

Then SF can trade Smith to the Browns, wouldn’t he fit the West Coast system pretty good?

by octoberty on Mar 12, 2010 7:49 AM CST reply actions  

LJ is now a Redskin. Now I can officially start hating that guy.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 13, 2010 7:44 AM CST reply actions  

Really?

THAT’s what sealed the deal for you?

by brettgardner on Mar 13, 2010 8:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I like to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.

I mean, the gay slurs, the beating of women, or the spitting in their faces is something that’s forgiveable. But now he’s a Redskin. May he burn in hell. : )

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 13, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

so they now have portis and LJ?

uhhh are they hoping to sign LT and round up all the old, over the hill guys in one backfield?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 13, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

however

are either one NFL starting caliber RB?

id rather have betts over portis/LJ really

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 14, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love Dan Snyder.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 13, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

You should...

if you’re a Cowboys fan.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 14, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

i am going to take a sec to rec what may be my fav football site

other than LSB of course lol

football guys

im a huge fan of “the audible” — the ~2ish hr podcast they do every thur

(and no, im not at all affiliated with them, but they put out some really good stuff, NFL and fantasy related)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 14, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

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