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Tuesday a.m. Rangers things

Josh Hamilton was in the lineup yesterday, and had a successful spring debut, going 2 for 3.  He also had some comments about his struggles last year, and how the injuries impacted his approach:

"Last year, I was probably too aggressive and wanted to do too much and gave a lot of at-bats away because of my injuries and wanting to make up time," Hamilton said. "I really want to focus on, especially in spring, going deep in the counts and making pitchers work for it. The pitcher will make a mistake, but if I don't give him enough opportunities to make a mistake, he's not."

Evan Grant has some notes from yesterday's game, and the S-T has some notes from the B game, where Tanner Scheppers continued to impress.

Anthony Andro writes that the Thoracic Outlet Syndrome surgery Matt Harrison underwent last year resulted in added velocity on his fastball, with Harrison touching 97 now.  I'd like to see what Will Carroll has to say about this...

Jeff Wilson has a story on Vladimir Guerrero.

Randy Galloway says that the Angels are still the team to beat.

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God that Hamilton quote is so refreshing to hear

Players in denial that they need to work the count to be successful

Kinsler
Hamilton
Salty → Let’s hear you say it

by BuckyB on Mar 9, 2010 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

Salty does work the count

He just does it very unsuccessfully

by Telegraph on Mar 9, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

He K’d in a lot of full counts last year.

by ncrangerfan on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Good lord.

He struck out in 31 of 46 full counts. He did have a .413 OBP, so he was doing okay there, but still: struck out almost half the time. He either K’d or walked in all but two of them.

Does he just sit there on 3-2 to find out what happens or is he completely incapable of making contact?

by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yah

Morality you can fake. Fun you either have or you don't.

by LSJ on Mar 9, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

salty

for all his faults, I’ve never heard him say the wrong thing and generally he’s always seemed to have the right attitude. Never seemed entitled to me.

That’s why I was surprised to hear those reports that he came to camp a little heavy and looked sluggish. Wonder how much truth there is to that

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

CD on with Norm right now

JD on a bit later, ~11:30.

Tried to get Hammy on…evidently he is getting treatment almost every moment he is not on the field, so he declined.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 9, 2010 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

Good, but that kinda makes that shoulder seem worse

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep...

exactly how much treatment can you give to a guys shoulder if it’s just a bruise?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 9, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I was working/listening

But I think they alluded to other areas being treated too. But, I am sure someone was listening 100% and can give a more accurate replay than I.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 9, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Good god,

Norm sure didn’t beat around the bush. How many times did Norm tell Davis he was awful last year? 12?

Crush took it like a man though. He’s an easy guy to root for.

by ncrangerfan on Mar 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh, true.

And to Davis’ benefit, he didn’t shirk or try to downplay anything. I like that guy.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 9, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, all through his struggles last season, and after being sent down, he was upfront and 100% honest about everything

He’s a guy you really want to see do well.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 9, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

+ 1 Chris Davis is a cool dude!

If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.

by BigGuns on Mar 9, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Prediction of what Carroll would say

It’s that the TOS was robbing him of velocity, and the surgery only helped to allow him to unleash what he’s capable of. Why could he not touch 97 three years ago when he presumably didn’t have TOS? He’s a 6-4 24 year old. It follows that he would potentially add some velocity in his early 20s on his frame, particularly when he’s in better shape.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 9, 2010 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

Harrison

According to the 2007 propect handbook, he was 220 pounds in 2007 and only throwing 89-92 mph.

He was only 21, but he was already a big guy and not getting anywhere close to 97.

by Darrell McKown on Mar 9, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Most prospect handbooks (I have all of them)

have him topping out at 93. 93 is a good ways from 97, for sure, but I don’t think that there isn’t a rational explanation for how the combination of physical maturity, improved conditioning, and recovery from injuries – remember, he had injury issues in 2007 and 2008 – could add 4 mph.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 9, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll vote conditioning

Combined with more muscles, from said conditioning/working out/etc.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 9, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

that's it...

If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.

by BigGuns on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

It could also be that he always had more velocity in him

but didn’t have the optimal mechanics for it.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 9, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

True.

I think you see this sometimes when a player is injured. Meaning, they are forced to a degree to start over, usually under the close watch of trainers & coaches. They work at low effort to regain strength/stamina, and that slowed down approach under watchful eye cleans up/uncovers/corrects mechanics and such.

Jeez, thinking about the above, I may have just recapped an old Carroll column or something, heh.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Mar 9, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

As Derek Holland did

at about that age.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 9, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

This is kind of funny

When we got him, Harrison was supposedly a command pitcher with borderline fastball velocity and good feel for secondary pitches

Now he is a flamethrower with poor fastball command and questionable breaking pitches

by Telegraph on Mar 9, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

post TOS syndrome velocity increase

I think I remember Kenny Rogers gaining some velocity after that procedure, as well.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Mar 9, 2010 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

Kenny

thought I remembered that as well

One thing to watch on Harrison will also be the ‘bite’ on his breaking pitch. He didn’t seem to get much tilt on that pitch, even when he was going strong. If he has more fastball and a bit more break on the slider, then we may have something …

by CO Ranger on Mar 9, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

it just makes sense

your body is so tight at that point (with TOS) that the muscles, nerves, even bones and ligaments are restricted. I have the same problem, too (not TOS but everything is just locked up) and my power is certainly robbed. I tore both my left and right labrum as a result of it all I think…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Mar 9, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Harrison

If he’s really touching 97, that’s signficant.

A lefthanded starting pitcher with good control who can hit 97 is a valuable thing.

by Darrell McKown on Mar 9, 2010 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

two of them is an even better thing

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Mar 9, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

three of them is even better

lefties with above average velo and good control, I mean.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you counting Ceej or Marteen?

Or Captain Kirkman?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Marteeeeeen

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

You know

I like Kirkman. Gut feeling that he helps us out somewhere this year- maybe takes the DoMath or Dusty role over

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 9, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Grilli is down. He can start there...

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Mar 9, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously,

not only does he have to be the favorite for a 4/5 spot if he can show 94-97 with consistency, he could put up some really good numbers this year

by BuckyB on Mar 9, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, if you have 94-97 with consistency and command in the 4/5 spot

You’ve potentially got a 2-3 capable guy on the back end of your rotation. That’s sick.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 9, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Bodog over / unders out this morning.

Texas Rangers check in at 84.5

LAAA – 84.5

Seattle M’s – 83.5

Oakland – 79.5

http://sports.bodog.com/sports-betting/mlb-baseball-team-props.jsp

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 9, 2010 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

Interesting

I think that’s a pretty conservative O/U on the Rangers but not terribly unreasonable.

If I was a betting man, I’d jump on the over in a heartbeat.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 9, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It may be a hair low but

you’ll still have a lot of drama.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 9, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Hurt Locker

I watched it last night. It was pretty good. Was anyone else waiting for some huge turnaround in the movie, and then it never happened?

by cmkelly29 on Mar 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

great

now I know there isn’t a huge turnaround

by BuckyB on Mar 9, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh fuck me..

my bad dude. I didn’t even think of that.

If Adam can delete this, that would be cool.

by cmkelly29 on Mar 9, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh Alec you should have said Spoiler Alert!

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 9, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher

by Suicide Prince on Mar 9, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

To answer though

yes, I was waiting for it also.

"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 9, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, i kinda was too

loved the movie, on a related news

Fuck Mike Estabrook

by Horns130 on Mar 9, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan's team, Nolan Ryan's rules

For Pitchers:
1. Work out in the off season
2. Running and weight training during the season
3. Work quickly on the mound
4. Mandatory rib removal

by Kool Hand on Mar 9, 2010 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

Ahhhh

so THAT is the “massive change.” Got it.

by ncrangerfan on Mar 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Plus a diet of Beef with their daily Advil

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Mar 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

close

it’s actually an ONLY beef diet

by Kool Hand on Mar 9, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

4. Mandatory rib removal

This is so you can suck your own dick, right?

/Marilyn Manson rumors

by cmkelly29 on Mar 9, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

haha, toc surgery adds velocity?

i can see the line forming now. i’d attribute his added velo to his ditching of his painfully slow milwood-esque delivery to his current one that has him moving his entire body much quicker.

by SteveP on Mar 9, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Giving Feliz TOC surgery would be like one of those lab experiments in a comic book

I don’t think the world is ready for a super-Feliz.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 9, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

JD on with Norm right now.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 9, 2010 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

Um...

Durrett with a long story on JD

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Mar 9, 2010 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

This should be up on the front page

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 9, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

x
@jonmorosi #Rangers lefty Derek Holland looks behind this spring, but they have enough No. 5 starter depth to cover. I like that team’s potential. #MLB

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Mar 9, 2010 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

JD Recap

Three questions of happy talk about JD’s alma mater (Cornell) and their chances in the NCAA this month. Really, Norm?

Talked about improved local and national coverage of the team and he credited presence of Nolan Ryan. Always the corporate survivalist/kiss-ass.

Talked about how bad Kinsler was after May 1 and Josh was all year and how they were still able to win 87 games. JD says last year’s team did not overachieve.

Asked if he was worried about Josh always getting hurt. Said it was a reality when they traded for him. Said there aren’t a lot of documented stories of world class athletes who have had that kind of abuse.

Talked about composition of roster and options they have at pitching. They are a little thin on the bench where decisions have to be made and they need to work out the catching.

Said there may be somebody come available around April 1 as a back-up infielder.

Asked if he’s looking forward to the days his hands aren’t going to be tied monetarily. JD said yes and that having more money to spend is an advantage. He says the teams that utilize the best scouting and development plus use their monetary resources are the best teams.

Confessed to a handful of times when he simply didn’t have enough money (especially at trade deadline last year) to spend on players.

Payroll talk…asked if he could foresee Rangers being a big player in free agency next off-season. JD said it’s possible but he doesn’t want to get ahead of himself or this season. JD says it all starts with winning on the field.

Single biggest worry. JD says injury and player position depth. Says they can’t go down and get a Julio Borbon in July because he’s now here.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Mar 9, 2010 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

UNT going for an NCAA berth tonight!

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Mar 9, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the recap, I like what I see

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Mar 9, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm

Not sold on the in house options?

Said there may be somebody come available around April 1 as a back-up infielder.

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP

by RangerMad on Mar 9, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not.

I think we need to leverage our pitching depth to accomplish the following: 1) get a backup infielder 2) pick up a 5th outfielder, who can hopefully hit lefties real well. 3) restock our farm system with some more power prospects, in particular athletic outfielders….

Candidates to move: Mendoza, McCarthy, Mathis, and Strop

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Mar 10, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

What's to understand?

Low cost acquisition of a guy who strikes out a lot of people, but has flaws.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Mar 9, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Today's game vs. the A's is being delayed by rain

Gameday link:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_03_09_texmlb_oakmlb_1&mode=gameday

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Mar 9, 2010 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

thank you sir!

If the Rangers don't make the play-offs this year I'm gonna go all Epic Bearded Man on your ass.

by BigGuns on Mar 9, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

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