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Edinson Volquez suspended for PEDs

According to Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated.  Check out the tweet here: http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman. Story should be posted up on SI.com soon.

I'm sure he was just using it to recover from injury.  Nothing to see here.

Does anyone suspect that the player he was traded for might have been using PEDs as well?  His drop in power is really unexplainable.  Guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.  Just a thought.

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My feelings on Neftali are summed up by the analysis of Babe Ruth from "The Sandlot," "People say he was less than a god, but more than a man. Kind of like Hercules or something." by WestTxAg06 on Apr 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 20, 2010 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

i've had the same thought

is PED testing and drug testing two different things?

You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.

"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST

by sunlegend54 on Apr 20, 2010 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought so

I think they differentiate between illicit drugs (coke, meth, etc) and PED’s (HGH, steroids, etc.). Although I could be wrong.

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on Apr 20, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are correct sir

linky

You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.

"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST

by sunlegend54 on Apr 20, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, after recovering from Tommy John and the suspension

I guess he gets to pitch again in about 2012?

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 20, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

so the MLB basically says

take PEDs to recover?

and bud selig strikes again!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isnt the difference

that his suspension time takes up a 40 man spot where the 60 DL doesnt?

"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan

by red3biggs on Apr 20, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't he

slated to pitch again in August? It will be a while before we see him again

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on Apr 20, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

So assuming he isn't healthy by game 112

What would keep the Reds from reinstating him to make sure he finishes the suspension this season?

by Josh Lile on Apr 20, 2010 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

No I don't think Josh has done or is doing PEDs

His drop in power IMO is due to him not making adjustments along with the league to him. In 2008 20 of his 32 HRs came on either the 1st or 2nd pitch of an AB. he was coming over from the NL and not many people knew him yet and so guys were trying to get ahead of him early in alot of counts. It appeared he would be sitting fastball middle in that first pitch and when he got it he would send it a long way.

Now teams and pitchers have adjusted to him and most everything is down and away. It appears he has finally adjusted and is taking that stuff opposite field so hopefully he will now start incorporating power into those oppo shots. Once he does that and pitchers have nowhere to pitch him safely then the steady power numbers should come back IMO.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 20, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

and the fact...

that he tore a fucking abdominal muscle. Do that and then try to swing a bat.

by JShoe on Apr 20, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do so many Rangers prospects

end up as really sad stories?

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Apr 20, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

This is like when people say

(no matter where they live) if you don’t like the weather here, just wait 10 minutes, it will change, nyuk, nyuk.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 20, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, that isn't the case in San Diego

at least for the weather. But I guess the Padres do have Matt Bush.

When I’m saying that, I don’t really mean disappointments, like Botts (ha) or run-of-the-mill injuries (Hurley, Diamond). I mean the devastating gut punch career defining type of disasters – Mateo’s leg, David Clyde…

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Apr 20, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I will say. . .

. . . that does seem more true of north Texas than it does most places I’ve spent a bit of time.

The most extreme weather shifts I’ve ever seen are in New Mexico, but I believe a lot of that is the elevation (I lived at 6700).

by philkid3 on Apr 20, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're just close to the situation is all.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Padres have their share as well.

What about Stauffer?

That was a shitty deal right there.

Similar to Dickey, only with a much higher pick.

We do seem to have more than our fair share of “God is against us…” moments, but every team has some.

Dickey not having all the required human elbow parts… Sinisi getting AIDS… Michael Main catching Sinisi’s aids… Mateo’s Leg…. Gutierrez taking ADD meds… Hank Blalock infecting the entire clubhouse with TOS…. the list goes on.

Ugh.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

The Perezident: "Hail to the Chief, he's Marteen, and he needs hailing!"

by thedirkatron on Apr 20, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

stauffer came clean when he found out about it

but he didnt have to

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would've come out during his physical if he'd signed, but, yah, he got out in front of it and came clean.

So even though he didn’t have to, he pretty much fucking had to.

I’d say he gets MUCH bigger points in the negative for knowing his shoulder wasn’t “feeling normal” after his last start at the end of May and not bothering to mention it pre-draft and/or get it checked until July when he knew he was about to have to take a physical when he signed, which at that point was looking pretty likely.

I don’t see why anyone would give him points for what he did.

I can see why the Padres tried to spin it that way, but… No.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

The Perezident: "Hail to the Chief, he's Marteen, and he needs hailing!"

by thedirkatron on Apr 20, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

that cliche is great

because everyone uses it everywhere. I grew up in OK, and Will Rogers is credited for saying it about Oklahoma. The statement is pretty much true everywhere, although I like it when people from different states argue that it’s really about their state. That always cracks me up

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

What part of Oklahoma?

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

OKC

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have family in Moore

Grew up in Drumright

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have family in Moore and Midwest City

and a few still in NW OKC around Edmond.

Drumright, I admit, I had to look up where that was – the lonely stretch of the Turner Turnerpike. I went to college just off hwy 412 but in Arkansas

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Little town

I went to college close to Arkansas @ Connors St. College

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's move on to something that someone possibly cares about.

/Bobby Knight

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alrighty Stay Puff....lol

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

:)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moore

It’s still around?

I thought the SuperTornado wiped that place off the face of the Earth…

"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Apr 20, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not about my state.

What you see in the morning is usually what you’ll get every day. It might change dramatically from day to day, but that’s different.

Although if I hadn’t traveled so much, I’ll bet I’d claim it was about my state.

by philkid3 on Apr 20, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or when people say

“That’s just my luck,” as if they are possibly the most unlucky person in the world.

by rlb02a on Apr 20, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well at least it isn't a Ranger,

although weirdly enough, still connected in the long run.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude

You could do a family tree of all PED offenders and eventually find a Rangers link. We is who we is.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Apr 20, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF???
jcrasnick Just talked to Pat Courtney of MLB. He said Edinson Volquez’s suspension begins immediately, even though he’s on the DL.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Apr 20, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, he'll lose 50 games pat.

but won’t miss 50 games (because of the suspension anyways).

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

*pay

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the lesson here is

if you undergo TJ surgery it is OK to use PEDs during recovery IF you can afford the salary loss.

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
C.J. Wilson - 2010 AL Cy Young
Neftali Feliz - 2011 Rolaids Relief Man Award

by RangerMad on Apr 20, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ignore my question from above then

Thats a stupid ass rule then. If you’re out for a long time you pretty much have no reason NOT to do PEDs

by Josh Lile on Apr 20, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

that doesn't make sense...

why would Cliff Lee’s suspension count once he came off of the DL. I understand that they were for different reasons, but still

by JShoe on Apr 20, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good

All this angst over PEDs is way overblown anyway.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 20, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh

it figures.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 20, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

PS

That WAS a good trade by JD.

by JShoe on Apr 20, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

How did you get that from his post?

It was a good trade no matter what.

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD Didn't know that

B-Mac’s arm was going to fall off either, yet people get to call that a BAD trade, right?

by JShoe on Apr 20, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both teams won that trade the first year

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Hamilton used PEDs

But I do think he has changed his approach. His OBP is higher than it was when he was posting big SLG numbers. The change seemed to happen when he was out for a month with injury last year. I’m beginning to wonder if we’ll ever see the power again.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 20, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

If we don't there's no reason for him to be hitting in the middle of the lineup.

He doesn’t hit for a high enough average, steal bases or walk enough. Bet he wishes he’d signed that contract the rangers offered him a while back.

by rclarkjd10 on Apr 20, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

/s/ Vlad.

"I think that Rangers is good team." ~ South Korean Ranger Nation

by hubcityraider on Apr 20, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus

I bet Hamilton gets tested more than other players because of his past.

by jcAustin on Apr 20, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

im sure its a test for everything

…its not liek its more difficult to do

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I ask this question every time

and don’t think I ever get an answer.

Does this suspension result in the player losing his salary for that time? Are the Reds on the hook for his pay?

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Apr 20, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Per

this story he will lose his salary for that time.

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"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Apr 20, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

cool

I suspected as much.

Seems like a team with a burdensome contract should just slip something special into their albatross’s Vitamin B shots, like Miguel Tejada did to Palmeiro…

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Apr 20, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd wonder if the team would still have to pay that out, but into a no-drugs fund or something

Then the team would have a vested interest in keeping its players off PEDs, in big part to prevent JBI’s scenario above and in big part to have that extra motivation to keep PEDs away

by Inkara1 on Apr 20, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I answered this question a few posts up.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Things still going slow?

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny you should ask..

Closing next Wednesday!

I just got that news today. I’m PUMPED.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way to go!

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

This time it’s legit, heh. Contract is executed.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's great

If you need anything just call or fb me.

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

congrats!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, so...

My absolute suck-ass fucked day to end all days was counter-balanced by you getting good news, eh?

Well, glad to help a friend, but please, not so much anal rape next time, I beg of you.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

What happened?

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 deals died today.

I’ll hold a funeral at the bottom of an empty container of some sort tonight…heh.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah that sucks man.

but at the end of the day, you live in Dallas and I will forever be jealous of you.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Always thought

it was one of the most bland uninteresting cities in America.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 20, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, cities that are more walk friendly

like Chicago, NY, even SF are more interesting to me.

Dallas is the epitome of bland suburbia to me.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell even in Texas I prefer Austin and Fort Worth a thousand times over.

Although in its favor, Dallas is nowhere near as shitty as Houston. I feel bad for my friends that moved there after college.

by DFWAg on Apr 20, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, to make things worse

The pool/grill area/HDs/aka my 2nd living area are closed for two weeks. That may almost suck more :(

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good call there

Close the outdoor area in 70 degree weather.

I bet it was open during December, though, right!

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on Apr 20, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt...dummies.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Former Ranger great!

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Apr 20, 2010 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

where?

"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar

by chrisR on Apr 20, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

when?

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

what?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

who?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

que?

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Apr 20, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

hora

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

derves

are yummy

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

dumbass

I still don’t know how anyone can test positive knowing they will be ped and drug tested.. I guess they are that desperate or that dumb.. or a combination of both

by I am Neftali Feliz on Apr 20, 2010 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

have you seen MLB salaries?

See Eric Gagne/Bret Boone/David Ortiz. Moderately talented players would made a ton of cash because PEDs work. I’m sure they don’t regret their decision or getting caught.

by rclarkjd10 on Apr 20, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

HUGE assumption to make on all those guys

link to where they tested positive/it has been confirmed they took PEDs?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Gagne and Ortiz have both tested positive/admitted using.

I’m more certain that Boone juiced that McGwire/A-Rod/Raffy/Pudge/Juan/Sosa/Manny

by rclarkjd10 on Apr 20, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

from mitchell report:

gagne:

Although he is not sure when, Radomski recalled that Lo Duca called Radomski and told Radomski that Gagnewas with him and wanted to buy human growth hormone. Gagne then came onto the phone and asked Radomski a question about how to get air out of a syringe. This is the only time Radomski spoke to Gagne. Radomski said that Lo Duca thereafter placed orders on Gagne’s behalf.

i think your referring to the 03 list that only was partially leaked, and no one is sure how “real” it is/was…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not quite. I was referring to this:
After admitting he had “regrets” about his career, Eric Gagne tells the Los Angeles Times that he used human growth hormone when he was a dominant closer for the Dodgers.

Columnist T.J. Simers quotes Gagne as saying he used HGH to help himself “get better” after suffering a knee injury in spring training of 2005.

“I’m so ashamed. It wasn’t smart,” Simers quotes Gagne as saying. “If I knew what I know now. … I didn’t need it. I regret it so much, just now maybe getting over the guilt. It was stupid.”

He added: “I will have to live with the mistake that I made for the rest of my life.”

Link

by rclarkjd10 on Apr 20, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting

thanks for the link dude, had no clue

that said, he was a effing moron to admit it to anyone, much less a reporter

either dont say it at all or say it in a book (a la canseco)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's the best course of action.

What’s dumb is the Bonds/Clemens approach. Does anyone even remember that Pettite and ARod used PEDs?

by rclarkjd10 on Apr 20, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they remember Arod, but not Petitte

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not.

The American public is pretty stupid. It’s such a joke how easy these guys get off when most of them are probably full of shit with their apologies.

by DFWAg on Apr 20, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont think petite was

but Arod… screw that guy

Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'

by blalock84 on Apr 21, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

everyone knows about arod

but pettite’s use isnt that much diff than gagne

no one remember ankiel or even the first guy ever suspended (Alex Sanchez)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

alex sanchex

Remember that the guy got caught right after the season he hit 0 HR’s. That had to be one of the funniest suspensions ever LOL

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And this:
Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz were among the 104 major league players listed as having tested positive for performance-enhancing substances in 2003, lawyers with knowledge of the results told The New York Times.

The two were key members of the Boston Red Sox World Series championship teams in 2004 and 2007.

Link

by rclarkjd10 on Apr 20, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know that

but the full list was never released. only selective names were

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just sent an email to a friend

and asked if any player that tested positive doesn’t have Rangers ties. Then I changed it to include managers too.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Apr 20, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I can think of 2

Ryan Franklin
Rafael Betancourt

"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Apr 20, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gagne...

was on them BEFORE he came to the Rangers, though… I believe

by JShoe on Apr 20, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Ryan Franklin – 2000-2003 teammate with former Ranger Mark McLemore who was a teammate of Raffy Palmeiro.

Betancourt – teammate with Travis Hafner, former Ranger and former power hitter who managed to magically lose his power after testing started.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Apr 20, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it fun to laugh a little

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
@700wlw Volquez statement: Dominican doctor prescribed medication to help me and my wife start a family. Those meds were also an MLB-banned drug

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 20, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Volquez didn't know Viagra was a performance enhancer?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 20, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was Extenz

That crazy bastard always looked happy in the commercials.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Apr 20, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

he forgot to bring his doctor's note to class

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought David's had more seed in their bag...

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

wonder if its hCG

hCG a la manny?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The excuses we get from the players

are very entertaining to say the least.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep waiting for

But I have gout! I really needed than line of crank!

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 20, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

ADD

the numbers for ADD and baseball are insane, did a little reading up on it/talking to will carroll a while back about it (right after kinsler started taking it) and the # of MLB players who take it are insanely high

essentially, instead of taking greenies after the MLB outlawed them, MLB players simply got ADD meds instead (not much different than greenies, but allowed per the rules)

that said, if i was busted for roids i would most def be saying i was trying to start a family, etc or had ADD to try to save my image

side note, but was it ever proved that DGut actually had an ADD med script?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

not masking agent

that was the williams/vikings/starcaps stuff

per espn

ESPN reported earlier that testing showed Ramirez had used hCG, which is typically used by steroid users to restart their bodies’ natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

he didnt say anything IIRC

just apologized

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

dominican boner pills are never a good idea.

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

by ElMerkoMuffley on Apr 20, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not surprised..

Not exactly Mr. Bright Ideas right there.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 20, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

And by the way LSB,

Happy 420 today.

One of a handful of Int’l holidays where religions don’t butt heads.

This thread seemed most appropriate.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think religion has any bearing on whether or not you smoke or not.

My dad smoked his entire life then began going to church regularly when he was 45. I highly doubt he stopped.

by Josh Lile on Apr 20, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

they have pot

they “have everyting you want” (in my best Vietnamese hooker voice from full metal jacket)

but seriously, they have everything and its really cheap

by mikeyoungfuturehof on Apr 20, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

so...
but seriously, they have everything and its really cheap

you just described a large % of the world there lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

you thinking opium

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baptist potheads

One of my best friends is a devout Baptist- regular churchgoer, does volunteer work as a Christian youth minister, wife is a seminary graduate- and he’s the biggest pothead I know.

"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Apr 20, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed, I've never known religion

to get in the way of smoking pot here and there.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

In memory of Benny Hill, who passed on this day

Our favorite theme song!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually he passed on the 19th

but it’s always a good time for Benny Hill.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 20, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he was discovered on the 21st

So I split the difference :)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

"I prefer the 'as long as you can’t reproduce, it’s not incest' Rule." --BuckyB

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 20, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like to think

he made Death chase him around to that ridiculous music for those two days.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 20, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very plausible idea

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

my pic agrees

You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.

"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST

by sunlegend54 on Apr 20, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

only 38 games left for Gutierrez's suspension

after today, that is

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

do we know if he actually has ADD meds

or just claimed it — that was during my hiatus from LSB when it all happened lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

he had a prescription for the ADD meds
Rangers GM Jon Daniels on the Danny Gutierrez suspension. While the Rangers acknowledge Gutierrez had a prescription for Adderall, they are disappointed he didn’t act responsibly to apply for the necessary waiver to take it and not risk suspension.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 20, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah ok thanks

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coolaid...
Will Carroll injuryexpert RT @christina1014ny: How does Jon Heyman break all of these stories. | Great sources and works hard.

the | is catching on. Cole yesterday, Will Carroll today

by octoberty on Apr 20, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it on a regular windows keyboard?

Pretty sure Carroll is Mac fanboy and I am usually on my Mac. I don’t know if that key is on windows keyboards.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Apr 20, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I

You could use the “I” key

7 I 6 I 2 I 2 I 0 I 4

Just doesn’t look as good though.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That shit looks confusing.

I just find it easier to read the pitchers line when using | instead of commas.

"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali

by coolaid on Apr 20, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just copy and paste

Not sure how to do it with windows

by octoberty on Apr 20, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

GDT is key, my friend

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

its the pipe key

between enter and backspace

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Cruz and his boomstick

Has anybody done a photoshop with Cruz and Evil Dead/Army of Darkness yet? Cruz with a chainsaw for a hand just seems like a necessity if people are going to keep using that term.

by DFWAg on Apr 20, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

josh doping

In case you were thinking that josh was doping…if you have read he autobiography, you would know the answer. He was and as of last year was still being tested for EVERYTHING under the sun. His tester traveled everywhere with him including vacations. I would give you the exact quote but my copy is at home and I’m at work.

by RQ on Apr 20, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

where do you see people actually thinking it was hamilton?

no one seriously thinks its him dude

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

You beat me to it

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 20, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

because clearly

one guy with less than 200 comments on LSB = the views of every person on here

come on dude

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does everybody need to have that view for him to post what he said?

It’s not like he chastised people on here. Just responding to one thing that was said.

by DFWAg on Apr 20, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

xx

link

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 20, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just pointing out who first brought it up.

Not saying I agree with it. I think with all the testing he goes through it would be near impossible for him to do anything.

by MikeEl on Apr 20, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Volqueso was a pretty cool nickname.

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Apr 20, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

From Carroll
Darnell McDonald is in the #RedSox clubhouse. That likely means that Ellsbury is headed for the disabled list.

My feelings on Neftali are summed up by the analysis of Babe Ruth from "The Sandlot," "People say he was less than a god, but more than a man. Kind of like Hercules or something." by WestTxAg06 on Apr 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 20, 2010 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Great timing.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya Ellsbury and Cameron down, with no Lackey and Lester,

plus we get Wakefield, who we have hit before. Boston isn’t the Boston that we thought it would be, but still a formable opponent.

My feelings on Neftali are summed up by the analysis of Babe Ruth from "The Sandlot," "People say he was less than a god, but more than a man. Kind of like Hercules or something." by WestTxAg06 on Apr 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 20, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh, Lackey has not gotten off to a good start, at all

Almost wish they did face him.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 20, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured when Lackey signed the deal it would turn into a Millwood type scenario.

My feelings on Neftali are summed up by the analysis of Babe Ruth from "The Sandlot," "People say he was less than a god, but more than a man. Kind of like Hercules or something." by WestTxAg06 on Apr 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 20, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

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