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5-9

I actually feel not nearly as bad after this game as I did after yesterday's.

Now, it may be because the Tom Hicks nonsense made this game seem irrelevant.

It may be that beating the spread in a Josh Beckett/Matt Harrison matchup is good enough.

It may be that the Josh Hamilton homer has me thinking that he may be getting back on track.

Or it may be that I have just written off the team's chances of contending this season, and thus back-to-back walk-off losses aren't going to faze me as much as if I thought this team could be a playoff team.

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thats not even close!!

did ron even come out of the dugout for it?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

but it was a tough call to the naked eye.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Which is why we shouldn’t just decide the naked eye is good enough.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did...

but didn’t put up nearly the fight he should have.

"I've had a lot of experience with semantics, so don't try to lure me into some maze of circular logic."

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Apr 21, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

when has he ever

….im mean seriouly

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

no argument here...you are exactly right

"I've had a lot of experience with semantics, so don't try to lure me into some maze of circular logic."

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

never

he just rolls right over.

by SteveP on Apr 21, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

runs in each game taken away or left on by umpires

between yesterdays and today, those two runs loom very large

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, so in addition to the East Coast Strike Zone.....

We have the East Coast Umpires……..

Yeesh…….

La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!

by Captain Fubar on Apr 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you disputing the fact

that a run shouldn’t of scored yesterday for the Red Sox because a fan touched the ball, and that Borbon’s run should have been scored today?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok, I wasn't sure if it was sarcasm

in why are we blaming the umps etc…

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was unwaware there was an arguement that it WAS good for sports officiating?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Outside of Lone Star Ball, I find myself in the minority on this.

It’s not even worth bringing up it gets so much vitriol. “I would stop watching baseball” is startlingly common.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck 'em.

Two seasons, they wouldn’t even notice it

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats just insane

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've learned to rarely talk baseball with anybody in regular life

Because invariably they know nothing about it and aren’t worth talking to.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

I usually get to about three words otherwise into the conversation before I hear “It’s sooooooooooo boring.”

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Dad is about the only person I can even try to have a serious discussion with

Hell, he’s the only person I know who isn’t an Angels bandwagoner.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I get those

You can normally get some win with them explaining the concept of WAR.

Weird, but true.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I agree.

IRL, talking to people about the concepts of sabermetrics to help bolster your points is pretty easy. My friends are by no means reading FanGraphs every day, but they get what I’m saying because, somehow, that shit’s easier to convey in person than it is on the internet, apparently.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Mostly because sabermetrics just makes sense, on even basic levels.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I admit

I have always been a proponent of the human element. I am starting to be swayed though… there is just too much at stake to be imprecise.

by #5withabullet on Apr 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Humans...

still ultimately have to make the official call. That’s human element. However, I don’t get how anyone could be opposed to giving umpires help of a replay on a play like tonight. It’s insanity masked by some bullshit of purity.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hell, if you wanted to get real technical,

and do like the NFL where you have to have conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field call- One could make the case there’s space b/w Borbon’s fingers and the plate.

That would be my argument against machines. I hate the NFL.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it would just be a beating like the NFL

if we had to determine that shit on too many plays.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

How is getting the actual outcome of an event, instead of a perceived one, a beating?

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because you can't actually tell if he's touching the plate,

or if his fingers are paper-thin above it.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, you can...

but for the sake of your argument, the ump could tell, unequivocally, that he wasn’t touching the plate, while out of position, in a split second?

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he can't.

That’s really not my beef. I just don’t wanna turn into the NFL.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, secret hgh problems?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tuck rule-type bullshit, long delays, subjective shit

that just makes the human element worse at times. At times it works. I’m open to replay, just not NFL style detailed bullshit-were his fingers under the ball, did the nose touch overkill shit.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because I don't want NFL overkill,

it’s a terrible argument? I didn’t know there was a black and white solution.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your argument

Is that you don’t like getting the call right. That’s terrible.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

When did I say I don't like getting the call right?

I said it becomes more subjective at times when they do it in the NFL. I said I’m not against all forms of replay.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just wrong.

There’s no way that viewing the play slowly from several different angles makes something more subjective than an on-the-spot call from one angle.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

How would you describe the tuck rule game?

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a great game

And a close call. But you’ve still made no argument describing how the replay of that play made the ruling more subjective. Your problem is with the rules and with getting the call right, obviously.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, say the umpire calls Borbon

safe tonite. They go to replay, and the booth decides they saw space b/w his fingers and the plate. It’s still a human decision fucking with the play due to his viewpoint.

The tuck rule was stupid in my opinion, and the view of the replay judge was stupid as well. Rule and human choice sucked.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Obviously I’m not arguing this because I want the Rangers to win every night. I just want baseball to be better.

So I mean you really have no argument against it except to say that it’s a human decision, which is true. But you’re being ridiculous with this. You don’t just take things at face value—you get as much information as possible to make the best decision. Sure, the decision could still end up being wrong, but there’s just no argument that contemplation and more data don’t make for better opportunities. No argument at all.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better opportunites, sure.

Better decisions, not always. Have you ever seen a catch overturned in the NFL, and thought are you fucking kidding me? I sat thru a 5 minute delay to have that shit overturned.

I’m not against all replay, I just don’t want it to be overkill like the NFL. And of course one of the beauties of baseball is no clock. There’s always time to come back. And there’s 162 games, I think that shit evens out.

If you wanna keep it limited to fair/foul type calls in the regular season, and expand it to base calls in the postseason, I’m open to that.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a really bad argument

So I guess there’s no reason to go on.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't think it's stupid

to nullify a fumble when the QB ain’t throwing forward with his arm?

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the damn rule.

Your problem, again, is with getting the call right.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

And you're convinced

they got that call right?

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

But even if I weren’t, what does that have to do with anything? They still greatly increased their chances of getting it right by reviewing it.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

They absolutely got the call right.

By the rules of the NFL, that was the right call. How do you argue otherwise?

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you argue otherwise?

Simple, I’m a Raiders fan.

That call sucked ass.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if there's a rule stating if the QB is in the act of pulling the ball back to his body then it's an incomplete pass.

Which there is.

You might argue that the rule shouldn’t exist (it exists to eliminate judgement calls, which I’m all for), but you cannot argue it was the wrong call.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you can.

It’s like a SS that drops the DP ball in transition. They get that call wrong sometimes.

I’ve seen that play called a fumble enough to know it’s not a black and white call.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

So that's why you review it.

Don’t you see that you’re literally making no argument besides saying “no”?

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen it reviewed,

and called a fumble. It’s too fucking subjective. I don’t want those kind of plays in baseball. Do you want every DP reviewed?

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Too fucking subjective"

But how is it any less subjective when one guy makes the call on the spot? I mean really, how?

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not. I agree.

I don’t want the game bogged down, and have plays overturned after scouring over said play. I can live with a blown call in real time easier.

Basically, I don’t want a 162 game season looking at every little play. Despite what you may think, I get the logical argument for replay. I just don’t want the NFL style overkill. And at least they can argue it’s a 16 game season.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, dude.

I really think you don’t understand the rule because it’s NOT subjective. It is an incomplete pass, end of story. That’s the rule and any ref that doesn’t call it an incomplete pass has made an inarguable mistake.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

But it should not be called a fumble.

And it is black and white. That ball is a fumble. There is no judgment there. That’s why the rule exists: to eliminate judgment.

If you see it called a fumble, it’s because the ref was wrong, plain and simple. And you will usually see it called incomplete or challenged and overturned.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So a guy is never pulling the ball back

and running to get extra yards or get away from a sack? It’s black and white to be able to tell what he’s doing?

If you wanna eliminate judgment, than keep it simple- Forward throwing motion incomplete, otherwise fumble.

The tuck rule is much more subjective, and that’s why it’s a stupid rule.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, if he's tucking it to run, it's an incomplete pass.
When a Team A player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his hand starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.

It is not subjective. The only way it’s a fumble is if he’s already tucked it. Otherwise, it’s an incomplete pass.

The rule might be stupid. I go both ways, but I definitely at least understand why it’s there. But saying the refs made the wrong call is not the same thing as saying it’s a bad rule.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay.

Then it’s quite possibly the dumbest rule in all of sports, and I’d hate to see baseball implement something so stupid. That’s my fear with baseball replay. I could accept it, but it better be cut and dried shit like fair/foul.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 22, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Replay overturned it.

He’s holding the ball in both hands, that’s a fumble. At least in my subjective eyes. FWIW, I don’t give a fuck about the Raiders.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 22, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it has to turn in to the NFL.

But I don’t know how making sure teams aren’t boned by bad calls isn’t more important.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think that's why the ump called him out?

Because there may have been a paper-thin amount of air between his hand and the plate?

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I think he thought Varitek blocked him off.

But the replay would show he got his hand in there, then we’d have the debate if he actually touched it.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That another problem...

it was actually against the rules for Varitek to be blocking the plate there.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why there is any doubt that he's touching the plate there

If it’s too tough to tell, then we pick one way and the other side is unlucky. Otherwise, just go with the right call.

by BuckyB on Apr 21, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

But, more importantly, I disagree that NFL-style replay is the only way to add more accuracy to baseball officiating.

Tennis replay takes almost nothing from the game other than inaccuracy.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could deal w/ tennis style reviews.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

those are nice and quick

I need to start playing tennis again, damn. Although, I’d probably injury every muscle in my body

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The tennis reviews are great

It’s actually exciting and adds to the enjoyment of the game instead of just being annoying delay.

by Telegraph on Apr 21, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh

That’s not an argument at all.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

My argument against replay

has been tradition/purity and pace. I have lost my fervor for it over the years (especially in baseball) because there are so many plays that could be easily reviewed. The pace issue still comes into play somewhat but it is so out of control in baseball already, what is another 10 minutes per game?

by #5withabullet on Apr 21, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how it affects the pace much, if at all, if you do booth reviews and eliminate arguments.

And I don’t understand how getting things wrong is an important part of baseball tradition. Unfortunate part, maybe.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

you are definitely right about eliminating argument time. Somehow I have always let it slide in baseball because the arguments are usually entertaining. I do think replay can be a useful tool if it is implemented properly. Maybe some type of challenge system like the NFL? As much as I love college football, I do believe the pace of play is altered by the potentially unlimited amount of replays in a game. Also, is there anything more maddening than an official making the wrong call despite having conclusive video evidence?

by #5withabullet on Apr 21, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely disagree with a challenge system.

Replay can move ridiculously fast in most situations. Have an umpire in the booth to make difficult calls, like line calls in tennis. It’s fast, it’s final, and it’s more accurate. And I guarantee you the game speeds up if you don’t then allow Mike Scioscia to come out and bitch about it.

And, yes, there is something more maddening: getting it wrong and then not even trying to get it right.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It can move fast

and I do love the tennis replay. I just don’t want every close play at first to be a reviewable event by the field umps, which I guess is my ultimate fear. The image of Joe West waddling off the field every other half inning to stick his head under the hood for a review makes me cringe. Booth reviews are certainly a possible remedy there.

We are free to disagree. It may make you more mad that a crew not try to get it right but it does make me more mad when they are given the capacity, evidence and time to get it right and still get it wrong.

by #5withabullet on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That just makes no sense.

You have to see that your position makes no sense.

by brettgardner on Apr 21, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would...

let dirky tron punt an orphan if I could get some automated balls and strikes up in here.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might...

but it will never happen.

Reply will happen eventually. I don’t think automated balls and strikes will in our lifetime.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think balls and strikes should be automatic

there would be A LOT of problems with that.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unlike now?

I would trust automation much, much more than the eyes of the arrogant, ego-inflated, grey-hairs we have calling them now.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't agree

maybe because I’ve worked on the machines that feed the info to gameday and the tracker, but I suppose they could improve the system. There is still a definite human element to it though

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure...

and that stuff can be ironed out before officially rolled out, but the machine isn’t going to call a strike on a guy because he said, “That was a bullshit call, ump.” the at-bat before, or call a ball on a pitcher because he’s a rookie who has had some success and the machine doesn’t want him to get too full of himself.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Just because things will probably never be perfect doesn’t mean you don’t try to make them as close as possible.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

and I suppose there wouldn't be an advantage

with players who have a “reputation” for having a good eye, so the ump can’t give them the benefit of the doubt

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitch F/X is accurate to within an inch.

You think umpires are more accurate?

I don’t think pure automation is necessarily the answer, but given the two extremes, I can’t possibly see how it would be worse.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

you could be right

I suppose it would get rid of my complaint against the umpire on so many strike calls or noncalls etc

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, you're never going to be rid of the human element

even in reviews, there will be a human element, even if the tracker is used for strikes etc there is a human element

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree it will never be completely gone.

That’s unfortunate, but a reality. Nothing will ever be perfect.

But why don’t we eliminate it as much as we can?

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And hey

Top Gear rerun just started, so I don’t have to watch the postgame show.

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by Lisa W on Apr 21, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Carrying over

Does Washington have to pay for his own flight home?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Ryan is team president

he can fire people

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing will change

until the ownership situation is resolved.

by bdavison94 on Apr 21, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it could happen

At least, I wouldn’t dismiss it outright. Very possible that Selig to Ryan/Daniels ‘Run the show, but call me if you want to spend cash’. We normally don’t know the structure they’re having to operate under until months after the fact (see Purkegate).

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but not yet

It is too early, but Ryan could name an interim manager… someone already with the team. No increased payroll

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm struggling to think of an in-season replacement that wasn't internal

And too depressed to work the google button on my internet machine to confirm

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, yeah, that's pretty much what I said

But without the supposition that the franchise can’t add 200 K to it’s operating budget

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

what if nolan named HIMSELF interim manager?

heh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too early in the season

but if it continues, next road trip?

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

5-9, six in a row.

Fucking shit, this thing is done.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's that damn fork?

Actually like AJM mentioned, I’m not nearly as pissed as I was last night or this past weekend.

Gotta be the Hicks news that’s candy coating everything that’s going on.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm about to blow my fucking face off

"When you play Happy," Andrus said, "good things will happen."

by Feliz es bueno on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Do it in the bathtub,

much easier to clean for whoever cleans stuff like that.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amy Adams and Emily Blunt, as I understand it

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha.....good movie.

Wash is an idiot....and umpires SUCK!!

by b.pate on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

really?

is that sunshine cleaning? I didn’t like it at all.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was pretty decent

But that maybe painted by the fact that Amy Adams and Emily Blunt are both pretty much incredible.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, I'm not mad this time

I’m just depressed.

This team is like a burnt-out lightbulb. Fucking dead, and it’s making a slight rattling sound.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Shut up with that dirty whore noise that is coming out your mouth right now

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

or

you’re just use to the disappointment by now.

i know i am…

i’m just sad.

"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM

by Longhorn on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

me too

anger yesterday, straight to depressed today

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team ain't right

hopes: down

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

They have to be thinking about it.

There is no way they aren’t.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whenever they realize their precious clubhouse atmosphere ain't doing a goddamn thing but stagnating

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The atmospheric pressure has to be increasing

The atmosphere can’t be the same with loss after loss and again

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Mikey Young is a fantastic leader!

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't they move Hurdle over

And give him an IOU

"When you play Happy," Andrus said, "good things will happen."

by Feliz es bueno on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i want them to lose tomorrow

if it means RW is gone

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

im beginning to wonder if they wont make a move until new ownership is in place

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Isolated, this game doesn't suck that much.

Losing always hurts, but losing a close game started by Matt Harrison and Josh Beckett is okay for the outlook on the team. Especially when it included things like grand slams that may have been outs in most other parks and runners being safe to everyone except the home plate umpire.

What makes this suck is just that it’s one more loss in a downward spiral that’s gone from feeling like early-season fluke to horribly troubling.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

why?

I understand we still have a shot, but we’re looking up at 3 teams that are playing better baseball, and we just look like a crappy team.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol cause it's fucking 14 games into the season.

My god. We could still win this division by 15 fucking games.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

My blog: That's baseball for you

by iorange555 on Apr 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think about the likelihood of that versus missing the playoffs

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the thing.

The very projections that thought we were the most likely team to win the division still didn’t think we were much better than even 1-in-4 to take it. Especially if you adjust for how much they usually miss on the Angels, it was a tight, tight situation.

Even if the team plays the way they were supposed to from here on out, this start could quite easily be bad enough to make all the difference.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, yes you could.

In fact, Mariners fans did just that.

Who’s said a winning streak wouldn’t make things better?

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes a 4 game winning streak right now would make things very nice

we really need CJ to pitch a great game tomorrow. I hope the umps don’t completely squeeze him like in NY

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I think iorange is right in that things can absolutely turn around. That doesn’t mean this start isn’t awfully damaging and very depressing.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the craziest thing you've ever said,

you crazy mofo.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Apr 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, we couldn't.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes they can...

anything can happen.

Injuries, performance, trades, call-ups.

Doesn’t mean it’s likely, but it’s still early enough that anything could happen.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only way we win the division by 15 games

Is if there’s a nuclear exchange with China and LA, Seattle and Oakland all get fucking vaporized.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen.

“Ohs Noes, how will we ever make up 3 games with 149 to play”.

It’s laughable.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 22, 2010 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, anyone have that problem with McAfee today?

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

only effected corporate computers right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, any computer running McAfee on XP.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I took it off my comp years ago.

I’ve got an ESET subscription this year. It’s an awesome, awesome little program. Barely slows the comp down at all.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

We somehow dodged it

but my husband’s company got bit by it pretty bad.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Apr 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I downloaded a virus...

on my work computer. I was terrified.

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

mi sure lol

dang

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hm?

I haven’t kept up.

It somehow got on my computer recently, but I don’t use it. It just sits there asking me to activate it ever 24 hours and I’ve been too lazy to uninstall.

I’m going to go do that now and then find out what I missed out on.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with Adam

This one doesn’t hurt as bad, lots of other things to think about and a few good signs tonight.

by #5withabullet on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

luckily the average fan

has already checked out, because this has been hard to watch.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

i dont even care anymore. i'm ambivalent.

youkilis is far and away the best hitter on the sox in my opinion. It’s a tough call though because pedroia is a good hitter in his own right and walking him set up the force.

bleh at this point i’m ready to see smoak, scheppers, moreland, and ogando

"He do what he do" - Ron Washington

by dustinvandeman on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly...

I wouldn’t have even walked Pedroia. Why even give a guy that takes a shit load of pitches the opportunity to push the winning run to third or end it if you are trying to make sure you throw him strikes? There was two outs anyway, it wasn’t a setting up the double play situation, either.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to think

that the ownership stuff does play some part. I don’t know about you, but I’m not comfortable working in an environment where the company may be bought out.

Obviously, these guys are well paid and it should be a minor distraction. Nonetheless, it could be.

Longtime lurker

by BirmMD on Apr 21, 2010 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

No...

Why would there have been? I would have put him out there for another inning.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yesterday versus today

Many people were pissed that he didn’t come in yesterday. Seeing him pitch 2 innings today might make them bitter.

by Heebs on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lamentations like he went 2 tonight, so why the fuck wasn't he in the game last night in the 8th?

Yeah, I called that in the GDT.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is only one focus remaining for this season

Smoak.

2 doubles and a walk tonight.

It is prophesied that a leader will rise….

by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 21, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah, but how soon?

The Rangers will pull the trigger on him sometime this year, but is he the kick they need right now?

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's time for some knee-jerkage

Davis just isn’t cutting it right now. He’s the one big black hole in the lineup for whom there is an obvious replacement. Do it now.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do you do with Davis?

Definitely not DFA. Send him down to try to work it out? Or make him a bench warmer?

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Smoak comes up, we still probably need a anti-lefty bat on the bench

And Davis gives you nothing there, so the only hope to salvage value from him would be AAA.

Eye Emm Aich Oh.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

At what point to do you bring him back?

Or are you under the supposition that he is done with the Rangers and his only value is via trade?

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would give him the rest of the season in AAA to put it all together

And resist the urge to bring him up when he torches PCL pitching for four weeks.

After that? I dunno. Take what’s there.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Options

He’s got a spot in OKC.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

do we not think...

…that this team is capable of a 10-5 stretch? My God people around here lose hope quickly. I know they’ve looked like shit, but the season is two weeks old and we have written off a team for the next 5 months. I am guilty as being as rash as any, but for shit’s sake this is ridiculous.

"Congrats Rangers fans, you just found your replacement for Mark Teixeira. Just a crazy, crazy steal." -Goldstein

by Plum on Apr 21, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

On the bright side

We’re only 3.5 GB with 148 to play.

And the A’s are losing.

Yay?

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

seriously...

…3.5 games back in the division with 5 months left and the A’s are leading? Chill out, it’s nowhere near over

"Congrats Rangers fans, you just found your replacement for Mark Teixeira. Just a crazy, crazy steal." -Goldstein

by Plum on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit

We gain a half game without even doing anything.

The ship has been righted.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant at least three.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another bright side

is Andrus showing a lot of patience at the plate for a really young hitter. 11 walks in 44 AB’s is really good.

Troy McClure: "Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy! If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!"

by stupidsexyflanders on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

make that in 55 PA’s.

Troy McClure: "Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy! If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!"

by stupidsexyflanders on Apr 21, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he could be a legit leadoff guy if he keeps up like this.

At this point I’ve actually got a lot more hope that he’ll develop into a leadoff caliber hitter than I do Borbon.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

the best part is

we’ll all be back here tomorrow. gaining hope for every hit and K and losing patience at every error and bullpen. a win and we’re winning the pennant. a loss and we start scouting for our inevitable #1 draft pick.

by mizzou918 on Apr 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

we are like

Medicine to other teams when they are struggling.

by kinslerFTW on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Harrison looks so dominant at times

then completely falls apart.

if he’s throwing 94-96 starting, maybe he can ramp it upto 97-98 in relief. a good candidate for the 2nd lefty in the pen?

by kumizi on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus

Why does everyone just want to stick every pitcher in the pen? Let’s just have 13 relievers and let them throw an inning or so each night.

That’s the ticket.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same problems as always

Erratic command, no reliable breaking pitches.

by Telegraph on Apr 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young pitcher

Missed half of last season. Patience, my son.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are asking someone on LSB to be patient?

Why don’t you use your time more wisely and try that on Vlad instead?

by Telegraph on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Vlad is Vlad

We knew what we were getting.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, most of us thought we'd be getting a Vlad with some sembelance of power, actually

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

GIve him a bit more time. Josh went yard today.

I really believe Vlad will bring the long ball back in style soon.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison is not good

he may hit 95 or 96, but his fastball is straight. Even in the innings that were rather quick, he had some really hard hit balls against him that were just caught. The guy is overrated until he can consistently command his pitches within the zone.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was actually a little encouraged by his start today...

I know he gave up three bombs, but the GS was a fluke.

As far as his stuff goes, I thought it was decent.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

he does pitch better from the windup

whether that is because he can get into a rhythm with his quick fidgety motion, I don’t know. When someone got on base he lost even more command of his pitches. Of course, this could all be due to the fact that there is a runner on base that is on his mind.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

noticed that too. He seemed to be rolling early on from the windup. Someone gets on in the 3rd and he has to go to the stretch and it seems like he gets out of whack.

This is also encouraging to me though. Once he finds a comfort zone from he stretch hopefully he can duplicate the success he’s having from the windup.

I don’t see how you can see Harrison’s performance so far his year as anything other than positive. I know he has looked better than I expected him to.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just not sold he's any different really

he has spotty command, and he still gets hit really hard. His LD% is actually up this year from last year, and that’s without todays game. SSS, I know, but I’m not sold. He’s been a little lucky.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's still young...

and coming off of an injury.

There’s still time for the command to come around. If that happens, I believe you’ll see a lot of other things fall right into place for him.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is possible

It would be nice if that would happen, but I just don’t think he has the time. I think Feliz, Holland, and pretty soon Perez should find their way into the rotation. It also depends on what the future lies for Scheppers as well.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true...

but if he pitches as well as he has so far this year he could be a major trade chip too.

I obviously like all those guys you mentioned more than Harrison. But the new windup, trimmed up, increased velocity Matty is still a nice surprise as well.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

His windup...

is so quick that he could still probably use it even with runners on base. It would be interesting to see if Maddux would consider letting him do it or not.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it fair to say that

if we continue to play like this and Ron keeps his job it is BECAUSE he snorted coke last year? What I’m trying to say is will we be more hesitant to let him go because we don’t want to look bad for not firing him last year?

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I've thought this, as well

That in not dumping him, then (which was pretty sensible, given the situation) they married themselves to him in a spot where he might have been dumped.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for saying it.

FuckFace is the new official nickname of Michael Young. - lonestarJon

by jackanape on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

His team’s record will determine his fate. It is still too early to fire him. Maybe after these next 30 games of which 21 are at home do you consider it.

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
C.J. Wilson - 2010 AL Cy Young
Neftali Feliz - 2011 Rolaids Relief Man Award

by RangerMad on Apr 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you wait until you are what?

10-20 then you do something?
I think this is going to be the death of JD’s tenure here, how many seasons do you have to watch the same shit before it falls back on you

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Ron keeps his job (and I personally believe he will)

It’ll be because the Rangers are playerwhipped and fear some sort of a clubhouse reprisal if they fire him.

I honestly think that’s the only reason Ron still has a job.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

there are four

players on the 25 man roster that I would actually care if we traded them
Neftali
Elvis
CJ
Cruz

and two of those I could be talked into trading

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinsler?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

not on the 25 now

and I wouldn’t miss a meal over it, primarily because I like my superstars to not be so injury prone, but I would want a good deal for him

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feldman?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey I like

Feldman, MY, Hamilton, Borbon, Davis, even colby
and I’m not asking to cut them, but I wouldn’t mind getting atleast a fair trade for them

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

bullpen gives them 4 chances

to get one run to win the game and they go 1-2-3 in four straight innings. beyond frustrating.

by selppuc on Apr 21, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Boston has some really tough relievers

the Vlad DP really killed us.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spurs punking Mavs in 3rd

FuckFace is the new official nickname of Michael Young. - lonestarJon

by jackanape on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

MY

looks dazed, confused.

by SteveP on Apr 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

YOUUK

Memo to the Strangers…..

heh – Hey just messing with ya – sure we will lose tomorrow -

by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I see your postscript, and all

But still, eat grundle, please, thanks.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet

Youk looks good in a queercoat. My wife’s got one like that.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pea coats are legit!

"If you don’t want kids reading words like "douchebag", get one of those mormon computers where it eats the butt shit and poops out a sunshiney mix of positivity and people climbing mountains to "achieve" or whatever." - thedirkatron

by cmkelly29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure they are

So long as you are penis-deficient.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, pea coats are pretty classy-badass

It’ just that I want Youkilis to get a dick infection right now.

Also, I swear to science I will burn the internet down if anyone spadedsnakes right now.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

I hear Greg Oden wears a pea coat.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 21, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exhibit A in the Penis-deficiency rule

That old lady can’t keep herself on a b-ball court for more than 7 minutes due to the osteoporosis.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, we're here to turn your season around.

So when you make the playoffs, just be sure and give the Rangers props I guess.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go fuck yourself, bandwagon douche.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

GTFO

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I use to like the Red Sox for being the Yankees rivals.

Then I started spending more time on the internet and realized their fans are just as bad.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

shit

maybe worse

bandwagon fuckers

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I always root for the Yanks over the Red Sox. Better fans.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 22, 2010 4:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It works better when you hit the reply button.

He probably doesn’t get it if you don’t.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

lsb is going crazy for me now

tried to call myself out for reply fail and reply failed again.

by Josh Lile on Apr 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh. I saw. Just messing with ya.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't stand the Boston announcer:

“And McDonald scores him on another wall ball.”

Fucking wall ball? Really? So imaginitive.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be going sensitive on me now

It was a wall ball – what else are you going to call it -

by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're not wanted here...go away.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

GTFO

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

its still not as good as the ari gold one above

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does SBN have a crazy-ass Luchadore blog?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can only hope

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If not, it must be made

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

God I love this

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bleh

Ps. This IS suppsed to be the year. No excuses. After all, “It’s Time!” This is the year they’ve been pointing to through all this “building of the system,” and Ryan himself said 92 wins.

by kinslerFTW on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

But we dont look like that team

by kinslerFTW on Apr 21, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, not this last week

But things can change, things will change, the Rangers are good enough, smart enough, and people like them.
 
So says Smalley

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is Bea Arthur

But it’s going to require a superhuman effort, and gigantic balls, to make it happen.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Attention

Someone’s not paying enough of it.

by tlt29 on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Naw

It’s the start of the season. The Rangers start bad when Wasthington is the manager. Things change.

by Mark from OC on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

95 wins are about as doable as this guy.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, powerglove!

That dude is fuckin’ rockin, man!

If I was a teenage nerdy girl with no self confidence, I would be all over that.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was

and I wouldn’t.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL.

See. No way 95 wins are gonna happen.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, powergloves were awesome

So, I don’t know where we go from here.

So for insinuating that your mouth makes dirty whore noise above.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

s/b 'sorry for'

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent

But I would still have done a kid if I were a girl if he had that much Nintendo gear.

I have loose morals and strange values. I do not apologize for this.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

70 wins might not happen

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 22, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that was a stupid statement from Ryan, though.

I know he has to be positive in the media, but that sets such unreal expectations, I don’t know what the point is. 92 was absolutely possible, but I don’t know how you could have called it more likely than <92 going in to the season.

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

in fairness he said

if all goes well 92 wins. I’m guessing he wasn’t expecting his MVP to miss the first month with an injury sustained dicking around and for his closer to suck elephant dick

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think myself

That it’s possible this stretch is just the baseball gods way of bitch slapping us for using the stupid, pompous slogan.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, any guesses as to Jamey's iPod mix tonight?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 21, 2010 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn

What is it with the Red Sox trolls coming over post-game? Fucking annoying.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Apr 21, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Because it's funny as shit...

if you watched those douches going after that foul in the first you can’t help but laugh at that.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss stonewashed J-orts.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember when

my computer could run GIF’s like crazy now it eff’s up my whole internet experience for a good 45 seconds each time

by blueballlefty on Apr 21, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's even better in sped up,

did you try it in slo-mo?

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

but it was extra annoying wasting all of that time on a slow motion replay when I could see with my own eyes in real time what had happened.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I missed it in real time,

so this is really funny for the first time seeing it, well done

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 21, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

you get to wear the dunce hat

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

laughing there actually made me feel a little better

UNTJosh – do something else stupid

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

that’ll do. I’ll wait for more gold

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since 1990...

the Rangers have only had three or four seasons that one could classify as “a hot start” 15 games into the season. A couple of those were just a few games over .500.

This is just a normal part of the Texas Ranger fan experience.

Though, this start is bordering on 2002 terribleness.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

We will see

i have hope for this team but i get dissapointed 100% anyway.

by kinslerFTW on Apr 21, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

in 1999 they started pretty slowly and went on to have their best record ever, so anything is possible, but the Texas Rangers aren’t exactly good at starting the baseball season off well historically.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

2008?

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

DTron showing off the legs in his new dress

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey wait that's not a punt..

The Dirk-a-tron just sent that baby through the uprights.

I'm straight for Heidi Richardson.

by BigGuns on Apr 22, 2010 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. The Oakland announcers can't stop saying "No H!tt@r"

Assholes.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I fucking hate Ray Fosse.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind them say, "Wow, he's got a gem going." or "Hughes is lights out right now, completly shutting down the A's."

But to actually say the word, just makes me cringe and brings about bad karma.

It’s totally a mental thing, but it’s bush league.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't believe in karma.

I seriously think it’s almost impossible that an announcer saying the words “no hitter” will actually cause the no hitter to be broken up.

Tell me, as a viewer, what’s going on. “Gem” and “shutting down the A’s” isn’t the same as “no hitter.”

by philkid3 on Apr 21, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll just let this be.

I don’t want to have a discussion like the one above.

I know you hate hearing this all the time, but sometimes it’s nice to believe in something that isn’t backed by numbers or is totally logical. But I understand how you would want to know what’s going on in the game.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a Vulcan.

It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard.
- Nolan Ryan

by Flynnyrd on Apr 22, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I, personally, do this every time a Rangers' opponent brings a no hitter in through the first 3 or 4

And I don’t feel bad about this. I know I’m a measly fan, and not an announcer, but that has to count for something.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 22, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate..............
  • Wash
  • Umpires
  • baseball
  • all of you

FUCK!!

…..see ya’ll tomorrow.

(new avatar)

Wash is an idiot....and umpires SUCK!!

by b.pate on Apr 21, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

and we hate you,

enjoy your evening.

"Big whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck you

go CJ!

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duncan walks like fucking crazy.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

how in god's name

has roddy B not been in this game at all…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watch Duncan's footwork.

He moves his pivot foot all the time.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

everybody does

it’s one of the most annoying things about basketball nowadays

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 21, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Officiating is easily my biggest peeve with the NBA

The fact that a guy like Lebron or Kobe can just barrel into people and get call after call drives me insane.

And we don’t even need to talk about 2006.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quite the strawman you've built up there.

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh?

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 21, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya know

If the team is going to suck this hard, the least they could do is work the streetcorners and make some money off of it…

by JimBonnick84 on Apr 21, 2010 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Couple things...

did they finally change that Borbon bunt to a hit?

Any word on Nellie’s hammy?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 21, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

OT- I despise Peter King

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 21, 2010 11:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think anybody is sticking a fork in them

But we’re seeing our expectations for a team that was supposed to contend this year get blown to smithereens right now. All the key pieces for our season are looking like shit, and that’s not a good feeling for our outlook.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 21, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

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