OT: Draft Day 2..FINAL DAY
by Longhorn on Apr 23, 2010 4:47 PM CDT
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PrintScouts, Inc. Round 2 mock
Round 2
| Pick (OVR) | Team | Player | Position | School |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 (33) | St. Louis Rams | Lamarr Houston | DT | Texas |
| 2 (34) | Minnesota Vikings (from DET) |
Chris Cook | CB | Virginia |
| 3 (35) | Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Everson Griffen | DE | USC |
| 4 (36) | Kansas City Chiefs | Rodger Saffold | OT | Indiana |
| 5 (37) | Philadelphia Eagles (from WAS) |
Jon Asamoah | OG | Illinois |
| 6 (38) | Cleveland Browns | Colt McCoy | QB | Texas |
| 7 (39) | Oakland Raiders | Charles Brown | OT | USC |
| 8 (40) | Miami Dolphins (from SEA via SDG) |
Sergio Kindle | OLB | Texas |
| 9 (41) | Buffalo Bills | Jimmy Clausen | QB | Notre Dame |
| 10 (42) | Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from CHI) |
Arrelious Benn | WR | Illinois |
| 11 (43) | Baltimore Ravens (from MIA via DEN) |
Nate Allen | S | South Florida |
| 12 (44) | New England Patriots (from JAC) |
Damian Williams | WR | USC |
| 13 (45) | Denver Broncos | Sean Lee | ILB | Penn State |
| 14 (46) | New York Giants | Vladimir Ducasse | OG | UMass |
| 15 (47) | New England Patriots (from TEN) |
Linval Joseph | DT | East Carolina |
| 16(48) | Carolina Panthers | Brian Price | DT | UCLA |
| 17 (49) | San Francisco 49ers | Taylor Mays | S | USC |
| 18 (50) | Kansas City Chiefs (from ATL) |
Terrence Cody | DT | Alabama |
| 19 (51) | Houston Texans | Toby Gerhart | RB | Stanford |
| 20 (52) | Pittsburgh Steelers | Golden Tate | WR | Notre Dame |
| 21 (53) | New England Patriots | Koa Misi | OLB | Utah |
| 22 (54) | Cincinnati Bengals | Brandon Spikes | ILB | Florida |
| 23 (55) | Philadelphia Eagles | Jerome Murphy | CB | South Florida |
| 24 (56) | Green Bay Packers | Dexter McCluster | RB | Mississippi |
| 25 (57) | Baltimore Ravens | Taylor Price | WR | Ohio |
| 26 (58) | Arizona Cardinals | Rob Gronkowski | TE | Arizona |
| 27 (59) | Dallas Cowboys | Al Woods | DT | LSU |
| 28 (60) | Seattle Seahawks (from SDG) |
Carlos Dunlap | DE | Florida |
| 29 (61) | New York Jets | John Jerry | OG | Mississippi |
| 30 (62) | Minnesota Vikings | Daryl Washington | OLB | TCU |
| 31 (63) | Indianapolis Colts | Edwin Veldheer | OT | Hillsdale |
| 32 (64) | New Orleans Saints | Navorro Bowman | OLB | Penn State |
Kiper's 2nd round Mock
okay, just the cowboys 2nd round pick
Dallas Cowboys 
Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
Dallas still needs a safety, and Burnett fits the bill.
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Note from Schefter
One of the teams had Dez off their board because of an irregular heartbeat.
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
I'd go OT, first
Just me, though… would not be sad with a safety
(Secretly hoping Sergio falls) and we go best available, again
Wha?
i sort of get the OT, but why would you want another OLB on a team that has 2 pro-bowl quality ones and drafted 2 OLB’s last year.
You realize that Alan Ball is the starting FS right now and there’s no real backup?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Kindle
He’s never played it, the guys more fit to be a 4-3 olb
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I thought he was more a 34 OLB guy
Could be wrong
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Either.
Depends on what weight he ends up playing at.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
This should be one of the most fun round 2's in history
Very deep draft class and a lot of interesting names drawing trade interest. I personally hope the Cowboys can land a top notch free safety or perhaps a guy like Bruce Campbell. Depth at tackle would be nice.
I looked at the round 2 mocks today.
I don’t see any way that the Cowboys pass up on Morgan Burnett for Al Woods. Maybe for Linvel Joseph, but even then…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Odd,
I like Price, but 2 DT’s with your first 2 picks? I mean, I’m all for BPA, but I question this. Who the hell plays WR for them?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
I think there will be quality WR options
throughout rounds two, three and four, and they have a lot of picks.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Sure.
But they have other needs, too, know? Also, are either of these guys 2-gap NT types? I thought they were both more 1-gap types?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
I wouldn’t have made that pick. I guess they are following their board…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Eh.
Pretty good team and they basically build through the draft. I wouldn’t be too quick to question them. They need a NT and a few other positions. But that offense is pretty scary.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
a lot people thought Mathews was the best RB in the draft
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Heh
National Football Post: I love the Bucs’ pick here as they get another one-gap guy who can get up the field and make plays behind the line of scrimmage. The idea of pairing him with Gerald McCoy is a scary thought for the rest of the NFC North.
Yep, I can bet that the Vikes are worried about playing these guys twice a year…
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
???
the vikings aren’t in the same division as the bucs
Nobody punished like Earl and No one was nastier than Ryan
Yes, the Bucs are not in a division with the Vikings
That’s why it’s funny that professional writers who get paid for writing and use that money to buy food and place to live wrote that the Bucs were in the NFC North.
That’s why I posted it, with the title ‘Heh’, implying a chuckle of some level. I added value to that by making the joke about the Vikings being worried about playing them twice.
Jokes on the internet! It’s the next big thing, after someone figures out a way to make money from pictures of nude women on the internet.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Ha.
To be fair, the did used to be in that division. About…10 years ago? 15?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
There goes McCluster.
To the team that already has a version of him.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
They should have taken Tate in the third.
Perfect complement. Or traded down and taken Gerhart in the 2nd.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
freaking eagels
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah.
Dammit.
If NYG gets Vlad Ducasse, I’ll be more pissed though
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
NYG has a history...
…of taking guys the Cowboys have wanted recently. The Cowboys were ready to take Aaron Ross and Steve Smith, but the Giants picked one spot ahead of them.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Great, thanks for reminding me of that
Hope the load of laundry I have in the washer is done by the time they pick, because I don’t want to have vomit on my clothes AND washing machine
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
eh
I can’t shake the feeling that Morgan Burnett and Nate Allen are interchangable talents.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
That's the thing.
I think that Allen might be slightly better at making reads and a more steady tackler. I think Burnett is better at ballhawking and getting the big hit.
I feel like they’re pretty close, but Allen has consistently been a low 1st/mid 2nd guy while Burnett has been a late 2nd/mid 3rd guy. Don’t understand.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No way
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
i've seen his name and the browns mentioned a lot
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
WTF did Corey Chavous just say?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
man I really thought the Chiefs would take Clausen
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Guess that 'We almost took him at #5 deal' was all pre-draft BS
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
The Cowboys were slotted to take him...
..by Scouts in the 2nd in their 4 round mock earlier in the week. I specifically remember thinking…who?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
it is a disgrace to the great Jim Brown
that he had to announce that pick…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Hahaha.
They should at least have let him make the 1st round pick.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This would actually be cool.
Vote on which old timer from your franchise gets to announce the pick. They get a free trip to NYC. I mean, c’mon, it’s primetime now.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Mayock seems to like him...
only question he said is durability.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Holmgren is effing up the Browns more than Mangini did
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
He should be there at 27.
Too many teams rate him equally to Chad Jones and SS of that ilk.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
If they can do so with a player
I’m cool with that. I’d rather not sacrifice a pick.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
Hell no
He’s got more value than that.
If Burnett drops to 45, I’d be willing to sacrifice Spears for the move. Maybe.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
He was #20 someodd overall...
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Oh, ctrl + f me
Misread, disregard, move along.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Go look up Visanthe Shiancoe's contract with the Vikings.
He’s probably similarly valued.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think, if they trade a player this weekend
it’s Spears.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
When do the Dolphins pick?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I think it will be for their fourth rounder
pick 126. That would give us 119, 125, and 126.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
12.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Or Hurd.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think they'd need to
but DBs are going high.
It looks like Regis Benn here, so we can only hope a run of WRs ensues that pushes some viable targets down a bit.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yup.
Bucs trade up. Maybe a WR?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
There we go.
More WR’s, too.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon.
Somebody start taking QB’s.
Bills jump (on) the QB!
Seahawks jump (on) the QB!
We all (who aren’t Cowboys) jump the QB!!
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
So is threre anyway the Raiders don't take Cambell?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
ESPN World Cup Commercials with U2
Si o no?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Clausen
If Buffalo doesnt take him, he might end himself.
Kiper would probably follow.
okay
I smile every time a LB, WR, RB or TE comes off the board
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yup.
Although OLB over ILB.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
sergio kindle
reaching Clausen levels of depression
I feel bad for Dolphins fans
this is such a Parcells draft. They have found a Spears and a Burnett, which I guess isn’t bad, but still. We’ve seen this show before.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Ha.
Good point.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm very bias...
but Koa can play.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I tend to irrationally like any kind of islander, personally
They just seem so jolly and amicable, but at the same time, terrifying if you cross them
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I had heard Linvel had some helium
but this Troup pick is a surprise.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah,
2 DT’s go ahead of him. Maybe they see Joseph as a 3-4 DE?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
WHAT!?
WHAT THE HELL!?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
i think these GMs are forgetting what round they are in
this is 2nd day in name only, it’s still the 2nd round!
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Haha.
Somethin like that.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
this does kind of seem like some GMs are over-thinking it just because this draft is so deep.
But then, what the hell do I know?
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I am irrationally excited tonight
with the draft, Smoak’s debut, and Martin pitching, I’m certainly getting my prospect fix.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Buffalo
is a mess
Spiller and Troup
easily the worst draft
No kiddin.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Please don't take Clausen...
Please don’t take Clausen.
Please don’t take Clausen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
They traded out
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
WTF?
I’m watching ESPN. What the hell is going on?
They traded down again?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
New England
traded up to take the TE gronkoski or whatever
NE trying to assemble the whitest team in the NFL.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
They play in Boston
this is nothing new.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
At what point are you...
…going to start pulling for Dallas to move up to take Clausen?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 23, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
You were pissed the Cowboys traded with Cleveland instead of taking Quinn.
We had Romo then.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 23, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
and?
didn’t realize Romo was a HOF at that time.
Not sure how the circumstances are similar…
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
guess i should have said HOF caliber
he’s definitely on his way…
Also, good to see AJM is behind Jerry on these moves.
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
someone passed
picks need to be made soon…pats cheating again
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
I'm a little late to the party here.
But I have one thing to say. Fuck Philly.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Well, that makes sense
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Sure isn't
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Kinda reminds me of the catcher in Major League 2
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Ray Lewis on crack
cant even say the word Ravens
Alright Longhorn fans...
why should I like that pick?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Because you like undersized DT's...
…who have good motors and can get decent penetration as a one-gap DT?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Should have stayed in school.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
That's what happens when you listen to Charlie Weis
what a buffoon that guy is turning out to be
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Or have been better at football
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Just for you.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/4/23/1438770/the-2010-nfl-draft-and-the-dallas#35676918
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Congratulate her...
on her new found life of luxury and leisure time?
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Name I didn't even know until yesterday.
Anyone know anything about him?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Gosselin had him in the 60s
so this isn’t a HUGE reach.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah.
Saw him as a guy climbing the boards into the late 2nd.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I know a thing or two about him.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
And?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
He was the...
anchor of our OL for the last 3 years. I think he can stick at tackle in the NFL but we shall see. Could be moved to guard in the NFL though. Very solid lineman.
My only question is if he will be strong enough to hold off some of the bigger D-Linemen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I really only know the big hits
But apparently some of the other tracks are where the real genius is.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Baltimore taking Kindle is great.
They were rumored to be looking DB.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
he is funny
you going to the raiders, good luck
God bless man
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I have a feeling
Mays will be there. I didn’t like him in the first, but he seems like an awfully talented kid to pass in the second.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Don't bail on me now!
We need a FREE SAFETY!
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, I know
but he played FS at USC for four years and he has so much talent. I think this is a classic case where a kid has been on the scene for so long that his tapes get overanalyzed, whereas a kid who explodes on the scene this season doesn’t get that sort of scrutiny.
Mays at 59 would be an amazing value. Could you really take him over the other safety options?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I'm with you.
If he’s there I think I draft him. I just can’t see him making it all the way to 59. I can’t believe he’s still on the board right now.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Josh McDaniels likes this...
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Tebow's GF, no?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Yeah
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Wonder how those things will adjust to the elevation
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Dude...
as far as I know, it’s general knowledge that she is Tebow’s gf.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
And you know they...
fuck like dirty, debased weasels, too.
Tebow is not that strong in his faith.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes...
I don’t believe it for a second, however.
And you know, if he died tomorrow and were judged by God, I don’t think Tebow’s lord would have a problem with it.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd have to be pretty...
naive to believe he is at this point.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Because...
he’s like 22 and a football player. I think if you surveyed all of the people that are those two things, 99% of them have had sex. Much less a famous one with photos of attractive young ladies hanging off of him.
The sample size isn’t small.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
How many of them share Tebow's convictions, though?
I just don’t know why we have to assume someone is weak willed and a liar. He may be, but I know plenty of people who aren’t.
I don't believe...
Tebow’s convictions, either. So there’s that.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I've known tons of people like him...
and he’s even more public.
The harder he tries to convince people of his convictions, the less I believe him. If he were being honest in his convictions, it wouldn’t need to be such a central thing about who he is.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, I can agree with that as possible.
In my experience, I think the people who go around talking about it the most common are the ones with the weakest resolve.
But I’m still not going to assume the worst in him, even if I hate his hype.
Exactly...
It reminds me of how when a political scandal comes out, the thing the politician is always discovered to have been doing, seemingly always corresponds with the very same thing they are always most openly active and verbal against.
With Tebow, he could be exactly what he claims to be, and that’s good if he is, he just don’t need to try to convince us in everything he does because we already know what that is supposed to be.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Either he's lying...
…or he’s dumb.
I lean towards the latter.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 23, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I mean, I hope he’s a virgin and wasting his time. That would make it even more hilarious. I just don’t believe that he is.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
If your girlfriend looks like that, yes it is.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Disagree.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright, alright
Abstinence is not necessarily dumb.
Many people’s reason for it is misguided, imo though.
Again, disagree.
Also, many of the people who disagree purely for religious reasons don’t really follow through with it anyways. Doesn’t mean it’s a worthless goal though…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That's Lucy Pinder, right?
Because she’s not really, that’s just a weird urban legend that got legs.
Yep.
This is the girl everybody mistakes for Pinder: http://amog.com/entertainment/babes/truth-tim-tebows-superhot-girlfriend-erin-drewes/
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
That's not even the right rumored girl, that's Lucy Pinder.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
by Aqua on Apr 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you saying that's not Pinder, or that he's not rumored with Pinder?
I don’t immediately recognize Pinder in photos, but I know that’s the girl he was always rumored with.
That's Lucy Pinder, not the girl he was rumored with.
That is this girl.
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1829/n2011324372322523945kr8.jpg
That is not Lucy Pinder.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
by Aqua on Apr 23, 2010 6:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But he's also been heavily rumored with Lucy Pinder.
This is the first I’ve ever seen of that girl, while the Pinder rumor was all over the place.
(Doesn’t mean he wasn’t rumored with that blonde, but he most certainly was rumored with Pinder.)
Lucy Pinder is a British model
The rumors are mistaking Pinder for the girl I posted. Trust me.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
by Aqua on Apr 23, 2010 6:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Those are big.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Tebow...
has never seen them unfurled before his eyes or else he is going to hell.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Just discussing this with my wife
Either he’s lying, or a total weirdo for kicking around those things for years and not taking a motorboatin’.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Too bad for him.
I would go Roethlisberger on her ass.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Damn...
I might be religious too if I was with her.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Why?
Then you’d have to wait until marriage.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't buy that bs for a minute.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Then you...
wouldn’t be religious!
Pick one! God or motorboating.
You can’t have both.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not even a choice...
Motorboating.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Then you, my friend...
are among several billion people who are better than Tim Tebow.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Tebow...
is dating your girlfriend?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
You don't have God...
like Tim Tebow has God, sorry.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals trading up
wonder if they will take a QB
bill belichek
got a 3rd round pick to move down in the 2nd
damn
Kind of taking the Jerry Jones strategy
moving around like crazy
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
QB?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Jimmy Clausen looks a bit like AJM
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
by Longhorn on Apr 23, 2010 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Would be an awesome pick.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Mays.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
So in the other thread, I said the Cowboys were probably looking at 7 guys:
OT: Sanford, Campbell, Ducasse and Charles Brown
FS: Allen, Burnett or Major Wright
Only Sanford and Allen are gone right now. That’s 5 guys left with 10 spots to go. C’mon someone take Colt!
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
He was supposed to go in the first.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
there hoping to resurrect
the human joystick experience.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
With Clausen off the board
I am no longer interested in the draft now.
Clausen schadenfreude carried me to this point.
Not even...
the Raiders are being irrational enough for this to be fun.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on where Claussen would have been taken
But for reference’s sake, #5 pick Mark Sanchez signed a 5 year deal with 28 million guaranteed.
Brian Brohmw as drafted in the late 2nd… he got 4 years with 1.55 guaranteed.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
I hope Golden Tate...
goes to a team that I marginally like. I just like that dude.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
Also
I don’t like the guest pick announcers.
Trotting Dan Marino out to announce the Dolphins’ 2nd round pick is dumb.
Yeah...
even though those people are NFL legends, I’d feel kind of ripped off if I were the kid because part of the magical appeal of being drafted is hearing the commish call your name.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not...
But who cares about Floyd Little?
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
FUCK
I really wanted Arenas. :(
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Not saying I wanted him with 59.
Just that I wanted him. I was hoping the mocks would be somewhat accurate and he would be there in the 3rd. Not that we have a 3rd. If you’ve seen him return kicks then you know why I wanted him.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
ok that makes sense
he was a reach where he got picked
Stephen JOnes on the phone
wonder if they Cowboys are trading up
I wonder why at this point
unless they really love one of the OTs still around.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I'm going to be a little bummed
if Golden Tate is still on the board at 59.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Sando says the Vikes traded with Houston
to take the Stanford RB
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Shit. Overkill.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Gerhart
Nice pick by the Vikes, and he doesn’t have a lot of immediate pressure to succeed because they have AP.
"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."
-- Sterling Archer
Gerhart will surprise a lot of people.
He’s going to be good.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Golden Tate to Pitt
just reminds me too much of Troy Edwards
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Maybe that's why I like him...
I thought Troy Edwards was going to be so awesome. I remember when he torched Nebraska.
Plus, Golden Tate is just about the best name ever.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
except
i forgot we dont have a 3rd round pick
with Brown, Ducasse and Asamoah all still on the board
I’m starting to think we’re gonna get one.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I would rank them in the order above
but I’d be pretty happy with any of the three
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
He's kinda small though.
If he could put on about 20-25 lbs. I would be a lot more interested in him.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I doubt we move up
the cost to move up ten spots tonight has been a third round pick. yikes.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
strange names coming off the board
considering some of the guys still out there. but then, I didn’t research LBs too much.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
The Patriots are Tweeting their picks ahead of time?
Does anyone around the NFL realize they make money off of showing this thing and that, for some reason, the reason a lot of people like watching it is suspense?
How about...
Pete Carroll’s tweeting hints about the Seahawks’ picks. That was really weird.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 23, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
4 picks left
cowboys looking good even if eagles take OT here
We're going to get a decent player at 59.
Whether it’s OT or FS it’s going to be a decent player. Brandon Spikes is still on the board too.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I wonder if a MLB like Sean Lee is on our radar
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Guess they really are happy with Doug Free
Shame, I wanted O-line
Our ILB’s are pretty shabby, though
yea but if anyone goes down
who plays at tackle
We traded up!!!
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
WHAT THE FUCK.
SEAN LEE? WHY?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
JJ
either must really like our current OL, or he has some secrets lined up later on.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
he was the highest guy left on Goose's rankings
he had him at 38 overall. As a point of reference, Charles Brown was 44 and Vlad Ducasse 66.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
God damnit we don't need linebackers!!!!!!
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Jason and Brandon Williams answer.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
They were out with injuries.
Sean Lee won’t do shit this year either.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Why would you bet?
He’s buried by Bradie James and Keith Brooking. He might get in on 3rd downs once and a while but that’s about it.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
But you have to insure for if James or Brooking gets hurt.
And I don’t trust having Jason and Brandon Williams there. Yet.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
I'm just sayin'
I like having Lee and the two Williams there to work up in a competition to replace Brooking in the future, and in the best-case scenario, maybe even force Bradie James out. I’d settle for one starting ILB and a backup there.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
I don't mind it either.
But we have bigger needs. MUCH bigger.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Ware, Brooking, James, Spencer, Octavien, Butler, Williams, Williams
No we don’t.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I'm a hell of a lot more worried about our safeties than I am about our ILB, put it that way.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Pick good players
not plugging holes.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 23, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I like you said in 6 words...
…what it took me multiple painful paragraphs to get out. Thanks for making me look bad…again! =)
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't mind it
Lee’s a good value. I wonder if Bradie’s about to get traded…
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
so we essentially used our third round pick
to move up in both the second and first rounds and get good value guys.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Jerry
must be scared of OL after picking Rogers and Brewster
So...
I am worried about OL and S.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
RFA. Right of first refusal.
Beat St. Louis’s offer sheet basically. He becomes a UFA on June 1st if he doesn’t sign. That’s what teams are waiting on, I think.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I don't think he signs
he was pretty miffed by their offer. I wonder if the Cowboys have talked to the Rams about offering a late round pick so the Rams can at least get something, and the Cowboys can work out a long term deal for him.
Maybe a pipe dream, but an ideal scenario, nonetheless.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Rather just wait until June 1st.
Although there might be a bit of a bidding war between the teams that needed a FS and didn’t address it in the draft.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
This has to be the backup option.
Atogwe or Sharper. It’s starting to look like that’s the option they’re going to go with is FA. Unless they trade back up the remaining guys like Burnett, Jones, Jones, and Wright aren’t going to be there.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Cowboys
had a first round grade on Lee for what it’s worth
cant find it
saw it on a cowboys message board
“Sean lee!! Similar to a yng Brooking. They had him pegged mid-late 1st round so that’s a steal!”
Hindsight is a helluva thing, but tossing out a few alternatives...
Would you have taken Wilson and Tate over what we have currently?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Nah
Tate is not what they need, for one thing.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 23, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Dez >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Tate
although i liked wilson
ok
rangers time
although i wanna see where mccoy goes
If Sean Lee stays healthy, and that's a decent sized if
I think he ends up starting for us at MLB for a long, long time. After 2007 people were going crazy about him
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Don't suck, Rich.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
wrong thread
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I wish instead of eating they were on the phone
Convincing someone to give us another 2nd rounder to get Charles Brown
i don't think anyone is going to give us a 2
for a 4 and a 2 next year
well, i take that back…maybe NE
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
If all these linemen are still there
when Miami picks in the third, I wonder if we can offer Spears and our fourth?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah, Pete Carroll is going to be the winner of this draft.
He knows these players better than anybody.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
how would he know the big 12 guys?
i can understand tate though
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Yeah, that sounds like something from a bad '80's football drama
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Did the Cowboys think that the Packers were going to take Lee?
Because I don’t understand why they didn’t just save the pick and wait until he fell to them.
Maybe they feared Green Bay would trade out
"Losers assemble in little groups and bitch about the coaches and the system and other players in other little groups. Winners assemble as a team."
- Bill Parcells
Ugh.
There goes Burnett. Friggin bullcrap.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Yeah the rest of this draft is going to suck for the Cowboys.
Fuck this.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I hope so.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Lulz
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
So let me get this straight.
We go into this draft with obvious holes on the O-line and at safety, and we end up with a WR and a LB. We have like 6 WRs already and about 10 LBs.
Safeties that we should have had our eyes on that are now off the board are:
Berry, Thomas, Allen, Burnett, Mays, Wright, Jones
O-linemen now off the board are:
Williams, Okung, Davis, Bulaga, Saffold, Ducasse, Brown, Iupati, Pouncey, Asmoah, Veldheer, Jerry
I know we got two good players, but god damn. Our two biggest areas of need weren’t addressed early like at least one of them should have been, and now pretty much all the bigger names in both areas are off the board. Hopefully they have big plans in free agency, because so far I’m pretty unimpressed with the way this has gone.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Why does this team refuse to draft a safety?
The need has been there for a long time now. They won’t even fill it with premium players from FA. At least they were willing to throw money at the OL.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously man, I don't know.
We haven’t addressed it since Woodson left. I think they’re scared because they fucked up by drafting Roy Williams early. The problem is, that was their own fault because of the type of safety he is. He’s always been that kind of player. They should have taken the ballhawk in Ed Reed instead. It annoys the shit out of me, that’s all I know.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Sigh...had to follow on my phone.
This is the problem with the draft on a Friday night. I tried, but just couldn’t make it work.
Anyways, I’m disappointed. I don’t think it’s a huge reach and I can at least appreciate that the Cowboys were following their draft board/method. But I have had a problem with the Cowboys strategy the past 2 years.
In last year’s draft, they decided to keep moving down when the depth to the draft wasn’t great. They kept accumulating picks…and then using them to stock positions that already had talent at. I understand it to a point, but feel like it leaves your team vulnerable to injury because you don’t have depth at some positions. They just seem to overvalue certain positions like OLB at the expense of positions like OL.
This year’s draft was widely considered to be one of the deepest drafts in a while. Teams were trying to accumulate picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds because there would be much better players there than usual. The Cowboys came into it with one glaring hole that needed to be addressed and a need of replenishing depth at OT after promoting from within. They had lesser needs for OG/OC depth, ILB depth, DL depth and possibly a playmaker on offense. Already down one pick, they traded up in the first to secure a WR. This was a great value and hard to argue, but they lost a pick in the 3rd round for it. This is even more glaring because they didn’t address one of their 2 needs, which wouldn’t be as bad if you still had 2 picks in the top 100. In this draft, you could find a starting FS and a backup OT with that. Instead, they use a 4th to trade up to select another position that is a weakness, especially starting next year, but does not match up to one of the major holes. This is even more frustrating than the first round because, while it was good value, there were quality players at the positions you needed in the 2nd. This couldn’t really be said for the 1st round. Ducasse, Burnett and Major Wright go in the next 15-20 picks.
This frustrates me because the Cowboys seem to actively give the finger to their fan base by continually avoiding Safeties and OLinemen high in the draft in the past 5 years. It’s not an issue when you have a young Roy Williams and OLinemen in their prime. It’s not a huge issue if you’re ok with paying premium prices in free agency, like the Cowboys did with Bigg Davis and Hamlin and now Sensibaugh. It is an issue if you decide that not only are you going to cut league average players, but you aren’t going to pursue any free agents to fill those holes. One of the strengths of Jerry’s drafts until the last couple of years is that he would fill holes before the draft so they wouldn’t have to draft for need. He did the exact opposite this year.
I expect that Lee will be a good player; I know they liked him. I’m sure they liked his intangibles, which are important to them at his position. Drafting him now gives them time to have him put on some weight and learn the system for next year, when Brooking will be gone.
It’s just incredibly frustrating the Cowboys would create needs due to finances and then not address them with their first 3 picks in the draft. I understand falling in love with Bryant, but why not trade down with your 2nd? They could have moved down 5-10 spots, picked up an extra 4th and taken Burnett. And this isn’t just griping about a player that only I like; the Cowboys were reportedly high on him, brought him in for a predraft workout, was under consideration for their 2nd and 3rd round picks. They could have stayed right there and taken Ducasse and then tried to trade back up into the third to take Burnett or Wright.
The Cowboys created two holes, then filled depth at two less pressing spots. The onus is on them to fill these spots in what’s left of free agency. Blah.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Well they obviously thought Lee was worth significantly more
I don’t really see the problem.
by brettgardner on Apr 23, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem is there are still significant holes on the O-line and at safety.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I understand
But the point is that they thought Lee was worth significantly more than the next best guy at S or OL.
I mean, you really can’t go into this expecting to just solve all your problems. Most draft picks bust. You have to pick the best players you possibly can.
by brettgardner on Apr 23, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I have very little faith..
..in Alan Ball as a starting FS for a Superbowl contending team.
I’m uncomfortable, but ok, with not addressing OL there. They created the hole at FS and have not addressed it when they could have. They could have even traded down to get the most value if they felt that strongly about Burnett or Wright not being 2nd rounders.
Using 3 picks to get 2 guys, neither of whom address needs, when you are a few players away from being a Superbowl contender, is a bad use of resources. If they still had Hamlin, I would be 100% on board.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Also true.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Yeah, but it already started.
Seems like they missed the memo.
There’s 2 guys left who would be an improvement over Hamlin. That is is looking more and more like a bad decision.
So here’s to Sharper or Atogwe.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
This is exactly how I feel about it.
Well said.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
nice essay
You do realize all this is completely irrelevant, right?
We can just go sign some players off the street that are the same as all these people in the draft.
they can fill needs in free agency if need be
Atogwe is a target at safety and Jamaal Brown might be a possibility at tackle.
They’ve had bad luck with Rogers and Brewster which is another reason Jerry might have been hesitant.
I think they would have possibly taken Nate Allen in the 2nd if they could have.
Yes on Atogwe and Brown....
Add Darren Sharper to the list.
I don’t think they’re looking for a starter on the OLine.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Reshad Jones is still available.
But that’s it. And while he’s not bad, he’s not as good as a lot of the other options that were available. I can’t believe we haven’t drafted a safety yet. Unacceptable.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
You want Sensi playing FS?
Because that dude is a SS.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That's kinda my point.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Really surprised Bruce Campbell is still on the board.
Everson Griffen, too.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Sean Lee is white
Did we forget Bobby Carpenter already?
Ahh well, as always, all you guys getting so caught up in the nuances of this draft stuff is funny, since it’s incredibly irrelevant.
Colt in Clev
Initial tendency is to go “Oh, Cleveland sucked last year, they must be horrible”. But I looked up their OC, and he doesnt look too bad. Then I looked up their schedule, and they closed on a 4 game winning streak. Then I looked at their roster, the QB’s are Jake Delhomme (who is 35), McCoy, and Seneca Wallace.
All in all maybe not too bad of a situation for McCoy. Delhomme obviously isnt the long term starter, and there isn’t any other QB of note on the roster to compete with McCoy for heir apparent, at least currently.
Yeah.
McCoy should be starting by next year. They don’t have a lot of targets though…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Mayock needs to go home
His voice is painful.
by LoneStarBallUser on Apr 24, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
five picks until Cowboys in the fourth round
I wonder how they feel about AKWASI OWUSU-ANSAH! (sorry, that was a copy and paste job)
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
or Selvish Capers, an OT from West Virginia
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
or Dominique Franks, CB from OU
there is some talent still out there.
Of course, we will draft someone I have never heard of or simply trade down for more picks
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
i'll continue to talk to myself here
and they did trade down, with the Dolphins. Huh.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Sorry to leave you hangin this mornin...
…still, Owusu-Ansah is pretty exciting, no?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Another LB?
What the hell?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
okay, I like this deal
they move down seven spots and add an early sixth. at this point, you are drafting lottery tickets, so why not add some picks in the process.
I guess the phins didn’t want Spears after all…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
yeah, i do too
but i don’t see anyone they want…i wouldn’t’ be surprised if we get Lawrence or Tiffin soon…
Yeah...
I like it. They got a guy I thought they should take in the 3rd and were able to pick up extra picks.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
okay, I like it
they drafted the akwasi kid I mentioned above.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
He is a returner too, right?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
he is
and more of a kick returner, whereas Bryant is more of a punt returner, or at least that’s what the scouting reports say
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah.
I’m confused by why the skills don’t necessarily translate, but hopefully Dez turns into such a good receiver in such a hurry that they won’t have him returning for long.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I like him seven picks ago
so the extra sixth is gravy.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Michael Smith
says that Detroit would have taken him here.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
that's always good to hear
I also read that the Jaguars loved Sean Lee and were trying hard to get him.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
he has the size and speed to be a safety
I really like this pick here.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
scouting report
Cornerback Specific Traits
Fluidity 1
Shows good flexibility and stays low out of backpedal. Extremely loose hips and changes directions with ease. Displays strong range when lined up at the safety position. Also appears to have the size and ability to turn and run if lined up as a press corner at the next level.
Closing Burst 2
Smooth transition out of backpedal. Does a good job of sticking foot in the ground allowing him to plant and drive quickly. Shows extra gear when closing on the ball. Adequate recovery speed to make up ground when caught in trail position.
Ball Skills 1
Appears to be his best asset. Turns, locates, and play the ball extremely well. Takes proper angles to the point and is aggressive attacking the ball. Above-average hands and can pull down the tough interception. Shows ability to create after making interception.
Instincts/Mental Toughness 3
Is called a corner in the IUP defensive scheme but mainly lines up at the safety position. Will take time to adjust to understanding splits, routes, and concepts if used as a press-corner at the next level. Does a good job of reading QB’s eyes when lined up at safety position allowing him to get a good jump on the ball. An emotional player on the field that plays with confidence and a bit of a swager. Can be overaggressive at times playing against lower level competition and will need to show more discipline against NFL caliber level competition.
Run Support 2
Diagnosis run quickly and fills the alleys with good overall angles. Possesses long arms and is a strong wrap-up tackler in the open field. Fights off blocks well. However, needs to show more aggression and physicality upon contact on occasion.
Wow.
If that’s the ESPN/Scouts Inc ranks, that’s even better than I was expecting.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess we aren't trading Spears
in the back of the draft, I wonder if anyone will see any value in a guy like Crayton?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I really
don’t like Crayton, wouldn’t mind him being traded.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
His role is kind of superfluous now
They told his agent that he can seek out a trade.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
if we can get into round five, or if he's still there in the sixth
I really like Chris Scott, a versatile OL prospect from TN.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Hmmm.
Not familiar with him. Details?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Getting Owusu-Ansah makes me very happy.
I knew he had the size to be a CB/FS tweener, but I didn’t know he already had some experience at S. That makes it even better. Hopefully, he doesn’t take quite as long to challenge for the starting FS spot.
I liked him as a 4th CB/KR in the 3rd round. Finding out he has safety experience and getting him with a trade down in the fourth is like tripling up the icing on this badass cupcake. Yum.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Norm interviewed Stephen Jones before the draft and happened to ask him about Ansah… he was told the Cowboys saw him as a safety going forward.
I wonder if they pick up a corner in the late rounds… we’re very thin there right now.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
???
We have 3 startable CB’s. That’s not thin. I imagine Ball slides over to CB in dime packages. And now you have Owusu-Ansah as a guy who can backup FS and CB.
If you’re looking for 4th and 5th CBs, those guys are roster fodder that gets churned during training camps. The Cowboys will be able to find one during training camp roster cuts if they see a need.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I like our top 3
But that’s all we have. 3 guys. TNew’s a known injury risk, Ball’s still a questionmark. I’m not saying I’d reach for a CB, but if there’s one available in the 6th or 7th who represents value, it’d be a good pick.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I know.
But you could say that about any team in the NFL. I mean, who’s the 4th CB for the Jets? Reevis, Cromartie, Wilson has a chance to be one of the best trios in a while, but Cromartie is pretty up and down and Wilson is a rookie.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
And in the two prior years
He started 10 and 11. He’s also going to be 32.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
First time in 3 years.
Missed 5 or 6 games in each season the previous 2 years. Plus, he’s getting old. Still, there’s older CB’s in the league and I expect he’ll be able to provide league average play for this coming year.
Scandrick played well last year, hopefully he makes the jump to above average starting CB from above average nickel CB this year.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't watch ESPN
but Mayock is not on NFLN today so i have to.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I would too...
but you got to bring more to the table then saying “he just has ‘it’”.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Nope.
Not yet.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Ha
I’m imagining him calling TBIA and asking to speak with “Mr. Daniels”, declaring that he’d “made a horrible mistake”.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Apr 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
To Philly
So no problem despising him.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
The next Jason Avant? Hank Baskett?
How does he get any touches behind Jackson, Maclin, Celek, McCoy ?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Man...
….I was kinda hoping Al Woods (DT-LSU) would fall. Cam Thomas is still out there though..that’s pretty surprising. Scouts Inc had him going in the 3rd.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Is there anything less surprising...
…than Oakland ending up with Jacoby Ford and Bruce Campbell?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Cable is still their HC right?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah.
Not reaches. Just funny that they still ended up with them.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Cam Thomas was...
Kiper’s 10th best player left at the start of the 4th round.
Am I missing something here?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Just got picked.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Ha...
…there he goes. San Diego. Of course.
Oh well, that was a fun pipe dream.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Perrish Cox in the 5th round to Denver looks like a good value
He was rated a 2nd or 3rd round pick on most of the stuff I read. Just hope his NFL career at Denver isn’t as tragic as the one that his fellow OK State alumnus had.
Yeah.
I thought he’d be a decent option in the 3rd or 4th if Owusu-Ansah was gone. There’s some extracurricular concerns, but he seems talented enough to be their nickel next year.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason Campbell to the Raiders.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
It's weird
Oakland’s making a lot of good moves.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
my bold prediction — I think they will be better this year then the Broncos.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
If Campbell beats out Russell.
Maybe Their receivers aren’t great, but maybe Heyward-Bey can develop with someone who can throw the ball in his time zone.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude...
Campbell instantly becomes their best QB and I really dislike Heyward-Bey but I like Murphy, Schilens, and Higgins.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I think Murphy is underrated.
But I’m not sure he can be a number 1 receiver next year. The rushing attack is also a bit underrated, but I think they go from a 3 win team to a 5-6 win team with Campbell instead of Russell.
Especially if Bruce Campbel ends up starting from day 1.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, who does the QB throw to?
Royal is a nice No. 2 option, but he’ll have to be the No. 1 while DThomas develops.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
For a 4th round in 2012.
That’s a pretty fantastic trade. They must have had no bites at all. What is Buffalo thinking?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Chan Gailey...
that is all.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yup, not a typo.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Me, too
Another position that the Cowboys seem to undervalue. Hopefully the offense will be good enough to overcome it.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
More likely to be UDFA I think.
Though it wouldn’t surprise me if they used a pick on it. You’d like to see some linemen taken though…and they could find some decent value.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Millen's middle name.
Suzy “I wanna kiss you” talking about the Jets makes me laugh.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Overrated aging vets.
LdT is done. That he through SD under the bus on his way out, after all they did to keep him relevant over the last couple of years, should be a crime.
Taylor’s ok if they only play him in a pass-rushing role. Basically, they’re saying Gholston sucks.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Really impressed by this draft.
Guys like Reshad Jones, Ricky Sapp, Cox and Cam Thomas going in the 5th round. Crazy.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Don't know if it's been talked about
But I thought Tony Pike would be gone by now. Certainly before Jonathan Crompton.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Crompton over Pike is pretty egregious in my mind. Maybe there’s projection involved that I’m just not seeing.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Stewart Mandel preemptively ripped the idea that Crompton would get taken over some other QBs in this draft. Something like “I, and the thousands of Tennessee fans, will watch in wonder as Crompton gets picked as a possible NFL QB this weekend”
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Seattle...
Leon Washington is a high risk/ high reward player. Don’t really like Lendale but good draft.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Meh.
Not with Owusu-Ansah now on board. I really want to seem them volume pick the hell out of some linemen, specifically on the interior.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
lol, i love some profootball talk
Matt Millen apologizes for calling Jaws a “Polack”
Posted by Mike Florio on April 24, 2010 1:38 PM ET
Even though Matt Millen no longer is in position to screw up a war room on draft day, he still has found a way to do something stupid during the league annual selection meeting.
Earlier today, Millen called ESPN colleague Ron Jaworski a “Polack” while on the air.
Moments ago, Millen apologized for making the remark, explaining that the comment reflected his close, collegial relationship with Jaworski.
And then Millen tried to draft a receiver on behalf of ESPN.
Ha.
Great speed AND size! Can’t go wrong! Keyshawn to ESPN!
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Green Bay
Meat and potatoes, but I’m liking their draft a lot. Bulaga should have been top 12 or 15, Burnett is who I wanted for the Cowboys and now they add Newhouse. Good job.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
So anyone worried about the Eagles?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah, they've had a really good draft.
Great first 2 picks, meh on the middle, but their past couple have been pretty good.
I don’t understand why they aren’t taking an LBers.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Question -- Who are some of the kickers expected to be drafted?
And around what round?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I'm kinda late.
Anybody worth talking about still on the board? Surely all the Safeties and O-linemen are gone by now.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Might be interesting.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Two 6ths huh? I think I look at Carter, Tyshovnytsky, and Rolle somewhere in here.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I bet it's one of those guys.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
So who goes to the Cowboys?
Any guesses?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Sam Young....
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah, according to the scouting reports I'm reading he's far from 5 star.
Big though.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I foresee a big year from Alex Smith and Gore.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
If he's around when we pick, I think Rolle could be great value in the sixth round.
That guy has unbelievable talent and ability.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Seriously...
why is he still on the board?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Hasn't played football in a year.
That’s the only thing I can think of.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
One of the reasons I read before the draft, and this is being entirely serious...
Is that coaches are afraid of drafting really smart guys like Rolle because of a supposed lack of respect or coachability issues.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I could see that, except FSU coaches and players aren't exactly geniuses
And he never had any problems there.
I think the biggest concern is that if he sustains an injury that requires any sort of difficult rehab, he might just elect to retire and go to med-school to become a neuro-surgeon.
I personally think that he’s the type of player that’s going to be really good in the NFL, and everyone is going to be like “Well, duh….”
That's a good point
There have been questions about his dedication to the game, since he has so many other options available to him.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Yeah.
They worry that guys can be ‘too smart’ for the game. Spend too much time thinking instead of reacting.
The other knock on him is that he’s not dedicated enough to football.
He also doesn’t have a ton of production in college, plus the year off. His combine times were alright, if I remember correctly.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I will kill someone if the Steelers get Rolle
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
thank god
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Damn!
Dwyer was still on the board? How did that happen?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Either this draft was the deepest in history
Or there were a ton of 3/4 overdrafts.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Both.
Though not a huge number.
Like I was saying earlier, I’m really surprised by the depth. There haven’t been near enough reaches for some of these guys too fall so far without some unusual medical issue popping up.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He can't last much longer.
But that’s what I said about Mays for about 20 picks so we’ll see.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I like that pick a lot for the Steelers
Dwyer is a good player. He reminds me a lot of Choice.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I see more of a McClain from the Ravens
Or maybe a Brandon Jacobs…though he’s probably not as fast.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
8 coordinators for Campbell in 10 years.
Damn
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
He seems like a good guy
I can’t imagine that he has any confidence left after this. The Raiders? God help him.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Seriously?
I look for a big year out of Campbell depending on the WR’s. It would be great just to see the Redskins suffer.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Tom Capel might be the worst HC in the history of the league.
I’m totally serious. The Raiders will suck again.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
there have been lots of terrible head coaches
tom capel isn’t close. but he’s probably the worst one right now
That includes college
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah,
I think so too. Good gamble by them.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
So we are all rooting for Rolle to fall to us?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I think BAL will screw us.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Ciron Black is still on the board.
I wouldn’t mind taking a look at him with our next pick.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Ditto.
He could have been a late 3rd guy.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't be against that either.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Yeah...
…gotta think he’s worth the risk at this point, right?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, I wouldn't be against taking Tony Pike to sit behind Romo at this point.
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No space.
Already have 3 QBs. Romo, Kitna, McGee.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hasn't been good a good QB since his senior year in high school.
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How do you know?
Zero playing time.
He was well thought of coming out of high school. Then his genius coaches decided the best way to use his big arm would be to run the option. * facepalm * Aggies….sigh.
I think he just needs some development time to work as a league average backup.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
There are going to some decent undrafted FA this year.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I've been reading some scouting reports on him the last few minutes
Apparently not as good as we’re thinking.
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Weird
I’m not well researched at all on this, but I thoguht I’d heard rumors of 1st round action at one point
Negative.
Highest I heard was 3rd round. Came in as a 4th-5th, thought maybe he could sneak up for someone looking for some character guys.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That clip from 1994 was hilarious
Mel doesn’t go out on those kinds of limbs anymore.
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Harewood is an interesting case.
So little experience, such a freakish athlete.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
No Rolle
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Jamar Wall
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
This draft is pissing me off.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Huh?
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
We went in with two glaring needs and neither one has been addressed.
I’m getting aggravated.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Not anybody who is going to make an immediate impact.
Small school guy who is a CB/FS hybrid. He’s going to need some development time. He could turn out good in a few years, but he’s not going to help us this year.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Do you really think drafts work that way?
That you can just plug in your 2nd or 3rd rounder and move on?
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Please link me to the comment where I said that.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
You can plug in 2nd or 3rd rounders.
Especially at the non-premium positions. Teams do it all the time.
Now, they aren’t All-Stars right off the bat, but you’d be surprised how quickly they become acceptable.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The point
Is that you can’t expect the draft to instantly fill up your starting squad.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Not if your team is any good.
But teams like St. Louis are absolutely trying to do that.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Well, it's not like we have many holes.
So, yeah. We should be looking for impact players that can help the team sooner rather than later.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I agree
Which is why they picked who they did.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Dez I understand. You can’t let a talent like that pass you up. But you’re COMPLETELY missing my point. The Cowboys have like 6 receivers and about 10 LBs on the team right now. WR and ILB were not our biggest needs. We have cut 2 veterans that were starters at 2 very important positions, and I am not comfortable with the options we have in house right now to replace them.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I'm not COMPLETELY missing your point
ILB isn’t all that strong, and neither is receiver. But more to the point, I don’t believe you have to struggle to find someone to fit your perceived biggest needs. I think you take the best players you possibly can, both in the draft and in free agency.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay.
So if the best player on the board when we pick in the first round is a TE a RB or a QB you take that over a guy like Earl Thomas who is graded slighty lower but fills a bigger need? I’m sorry, but I hate the BPA approach. I agree with it to a certain extent, but at some point you have to address your needs.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
QB is different in my mind
Because backups never play.
But the real answer to your question is that I think teams take need into consideration when making their boards, so when a guy is higher on the board, you don’t need to make the consideration on the spot.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a balance.
I think fans are just a lot more uncomfortable with Alan Ball as the starting FS than the Cowboys organization. If they can bring someone in from FA, then I think we’re all ready to drink the coolaid.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Basically, yes.
Ball is my biggest concern. Free to a lesser extent, but I have a lot more faith in him stepping up than I do Ball.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
You'd be surprised.
Teams pay so much to first round picks that many are expected to play almost immediately, even for good teams. For instance, Brandon Graham will be a starter for the Eagles this year. They went 11-5 last year, will probably be pretty decent this year (assuming Kolb is league average).
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Please stop saying I'd be surprised.
I don’t patronize you.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry.
I’m just saying, early round players start. They may end up sucking and getting put on the depth chart by the end of the year, but most end up starting pretty quickly.
Sure, you can’t expect to fill 6 or 7 holes to make a good team. But most teams are looking for 4 starters from each draft and, depending on position, many of them are getting the needed developmental PT in their first year. Lots of turnover.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
A safety would have.
We passed over multiple safeties that would have been an upgrade. The off-season isn’t over, I understand that. But there are still 2 pretty big holes that need to be filled. Hopefully they have plans for free agency.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I understand Dez.
If they address FS in free agency then I understand Lee.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Why, what did he do?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I wanted a D-linemen.
But if they insisted on a DB, I would have taken Rolle. If for not other reason, than just to be able to say that a future senator was a Cowboy.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Does Rolle have political ambitions?
He’ll be a doctor someday for sure.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
That article someone posted of him.
Everybody wants him to be everything. He wants to be successful and make a difference, but he isn’t sure how yet. He feels a lot of pressure.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Here. Haven’t read it yet but seems very interesting.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Why?
Because he’s a FSU DB who graduated in 3 years, wants to be a neurosurgeon and also is a Rhodes scholar? What’s so impressive about that? =)
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Hah.
I have the article open in another tab for about four days but haven’t read it yet.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah I don't get that pick.
Capers, Rolle, or even Blount would have made more sense.
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He was good at Tech.
He seemed to be able to make plays, but my already-limited scouting prowess is almost non-existent when it comes to secondary guys.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude
Rolle wanted to play? I figured people were passing on him because he wasn’t showing interest in the league. I’m kind of pissed they didn’t grab him
hmm
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=269C1AD0-BFB2-0DCB-0A815F4D1DDFE4A3
what’s going on here? everyone in the war room…looks like everyone’s watching Rolle’s thing on ESPN
Dude, that analyst just made a fantastic point.
I want Rolle.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I thought it was Dilfer, but I didn't want to be wrong and it be someone else.
But yeah, Dilfer’s point was great. Perfect.
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i think if you really had character issues about rolle
you would knock him down the way dez bryant got knocked down. maybe 1 round. not out of the whole effing draft.
It's not character, it's dedication.
People questioned how committed he really was to football, not that he was going to go rob a liquor store or need a babysitter.
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well
i would say they are the same thing. but clearly the latter is a lot worse than the former and the latter doesn’t get penalized nearly enough.
i think stupid ass coaches are just intimidated by what they don’t understand.
*which might be legitimate
i think a coach might think he can coach up a guy who’s lazy and wants to play video games rather than a guy who is smart and wants to get more out of life.
but it’s still stupid
Here's the thing:
This late in the draft, he is NOT going to make that much money in the NFL. If he’s willing to go through mini-camps, training camp, etc… then he’s dedicated.
If he weren’t dedicated, he’d get his MD out of the way and become wealthy very quickly.
Yeah.
Then we’d have to watch highlights of him against the Cowboys when he gets elected to office. Boo.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd give up a six next year to take Rolle
Next year’s draft is supposed to suck.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Whoops.
My bad.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Think so.
Cardiologist I believe.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Neurosurgeons make a lot of dough.
Start at 750K out of residency, average is 1 million/year. I’m sure he could figure out a way to make enough money over a 10 year career to be able to pursue politics afterwards.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 24, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Watch Jamar Wall jack someone up.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I watched Roy Williams jack people up for years.
I don’t care about jacking people up any more.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
DUDE, WTF
Jordan Pugh over Myron Rolle? Are you fucking kidding me?
Jordan Pugh can’t play. Period.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
If you had asked me before the draft if I thought Pugh was going to get drafted over Rolle, I would have laughed at you.
I would have put my life on Rolle going before Pugh.
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dude
this is like a slap to myron rolle’s face. every single guy being drafted right now seems like a CB
Rolle is more of a S, I think
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
as a football player
i’m not sure how good he really is though…
I’ll say this, he’ll be a better S in the NFL than Tebow will be QB
I realize this probably isn't consideration for GM's
But another reason for us to hope the Boys draft Rolle:
He is EXACTLY the type of guy that you LOVE coming to your community. You can’t convince me Myron wouldn’t contribute quite a bit to the city of Dallas.
Absolutely.
I don’t get Jerry Jones sometimes. He wants to make a splash, do things that will get headlines, but he won’t draft Myron Rolle?
Everybody loves Rolle as a person, and he’s relatively high profile because of his academic pursuits.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
This just gets me to think that he may just not be very good
If he is such a good person and easy to root for, and he is STILL sliding, then that must mean something. Its like the reverse of the bad character guys.
Just a thought.
by nathanbaum09 on Apr 24, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel like the last two rounds of the draft keep going and going and going.
Is this thing ever going to get over with?
Carolina just got great value.
Pike and Claussen will push each other.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
About to say, I thought Carolina already took Clausen.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Yeah, but at the same time it's a need.
So they’re bringing in competition to try and fill that need. I like it.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Trey Wingo throwing out the Baylor pride.
Gotta love that.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
FWIW, I think he is also a Cowboys fan.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
He went to Baylor and roomed with HP CEO Mark Hurd.
He lurks a ton on the Baylor fan boards.
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Intresting...
didn’t know that.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
He showed up on one of the Baylor boards one time and told people who he was.
Nobody believed him at first, so he told everyone to watch NFL Live that evening and he would prove it.
First words out of his mouth during a highlight were “AND HE NAILS HIM LIKE BAYLOR’S MIKE SINGLETARY!” and then stared at the camera for a second or two before moving on.
Showed up on the board about an hour later and said “Anything else?”
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Rolle gone
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
VY: "child please"
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
And there he goes.
We better have a plan for FA. There are officially no safeties left in this draft.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
That was obvious. the other answer choices were crap.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Yep.
Wall is a mystery pick. He’s going to be just another of those late picks who never does anything.
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I was speaking specifically of Cowboys' picks.
We always take a ton of fliers late in the draft and never seem to hit.
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Second round pick next year?
WTF? Or are you saying next year’s second sixth-round pick?
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That's insane.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
There are going to be some very interesting UFAs in this draft.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Jerry Jones just took off from the Cowboys' draft room.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Maybe Miles Austin for Myron Rolle
Since Austin was just a rookie free agent pickup, this would be an insane steal for the Cowboys. Just think, exchange a rookie free agent for a 7th round pick. I don’t know, that would almost be like robbing the blind.
Wait...
Snead came out? What a dumbass.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah...
If you don’t get drafted, you should be allowed to go back as long as you stay academically eligible.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Oh, LOL.
NVM.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
No, see my above response.
I misunderstood him.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Yeah his coach advised him against it
and shoulda listened too, i didn’t see anywhere that he would be a high enough pick to warrant leaving.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Putting in the call now for USC QB Mitch Mustain to be Cowboys 2011 2nd round pick
That is if we don’t wind up trading next years number 2 for Myron Rolle. Some might fault Mustain for not starting the last few years at Southern Cal. But we just can’t take a chance at missing out on the next Matt Cassel. Anyway, we know he is a great QB, he just hasn’t been properly utilized in college. For goodness sakes, he was the top QB coming out of high school in 2006. Definitely a can’t miss draft pick.
I honestly don't get the shtick you're throwing down here.
I assume you’re making fun of us for wanting Rolle so badly, and I guess there is a point to be made there.
But the QB stuff you threw in confuses me.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Kind of making fun.
We have a tendency of getting really obsessed with a certain player because ESPN vastly over-hypes them. Nothing against Rolle, I liked him coming out of high school and was very impressed when he took the year off to be a Rhode’s scholar. But the fact is, he is a 7th round pick so it really isn’t a big loss unless he turns into a Pro Bowl caliber safety within the next few years. Anyway, he seems to be more of a strong safety project. I just used Mitch Mustain because I can guarantee you that in the next draft he is going to be hyped up because of who he is and where he was a backup QB.
dude you're jokes/sarcasm are awful
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
CJ Wilson to the packers.
FUCK.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
good pick by the skins
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Damnit, Capers gone.
Still some decent linemen though. Black, Carter, Tyshovnytsky, Matthews, or Washington. Please pick one of them.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
so this is our last pick right?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
I like that ESPN's draft watcher still has WR and ILB as two of our needs.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
i guess because we needed a backup to Ratliff...
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Found this from BCC
One of the more popular of the William & Mary recruits is defensive tackle Sean Lissemore. Lissemore has to be one of the only, if not the only, defensive tackle to enter a draft as a former track star in high school. His 11.20 seconds in the 100m made him one of the best sprinters in New Jersey. A high school linebacker at 6’3, 240 pounds, Lissemore has since gained 50+ pounds yet managed to keep his linebacker speed. His 4.83 40 yard dash would have placed him among the fastest DTs at the combine if he had received an invite.
With all that speed, the next, logical step is to question his strength. His 36 reps on the bench press would have earned him third amongst the defensive lineman at the combine. His 30 inch vertical is very respectable for anybody near the 300 pound weight range. Clearly Lissemore is an athlete with the necessary NFL measurables.
Production is the only thing left to look at production and Lissemore has that too. Although hampered by a nagging shoulder injury that hurt his stat totals in his sophomore year and even affected his play into the beginning of his junior season, Lissemore pulled it all together during his senior campaign. In 14 games, Lissemore accumulated 66 tackles, 14 of which came for a loss, 6.5 sacks and 2 interceptions. All very good numbers from the DT position.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
Here’s the link. Some snippets from various scouting reports.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
They could be interested in moving him to DE in the 3-4 if he has that kind of size/speed.
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Nice.
We did nothing to adequately address our two biggest needs. Very nice.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I have to believe that Jerry has other plans.
Didn’t think his options here were better than in FA.
Plus I can’t really fault him for either of our top 2 picks, which both addressed needs as well (though not as great of needs as S/OT).
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I agree that the options left weren't better than what's in FA.
Let’s just hope he targets those players. If we go into the season with FS and the O-line as it sits I’m not optimistic at all.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Wait
Are you telling me that drafting a 7th round lineman or safety would have made you feel better?
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
What safety? There aren't any left my man.
As far as O-line goes, Black, Carter, Tyshovnytsky, Capers, Matthews, and Washington are all still on the board. Yeah, any one of those guys would have made me feel better.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
They took a tackle and a safety in the draft.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on the scouting reports, that tackle isn't very good and is probably limited to the right side.
And that safety is a project that will not have an impact on anything but ST this season. Sorry, I’m not impressed.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Well, I don't really care if you're impressed
I’m more concerned with whether Dallas is impressed.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're drafting a backup lineman
I have to think that 4 years, starting every game, at a big program like Notre Dame is a pretty good pick.
He is as good now as he is going to be, though.
According to all of the reports I’ve read.
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Right, but probably more game ready than any of the other linemen available
That’s why I liked the pick, we weren’t looking for a starter, just depth
i do agree with him that it was a deep draft
however, no other linemen have been taken so far and there’s a good chance no others will so I don’t see the big deal about raiding the UFA pool
That's true too.
I’m just going off what I’ve seen so far. But like I’ve said a lot so far, the off-season isn’t over and I’m definitely knee jerking. It just aggravates me that they haven’t addressed those two things yet. There’s still time/options though. Most of the guys I mentioned above, if not all of them will probably be there in the UDFA pool. I just don’t have a lot of confidence that Jerry will take any of them, based on what’s happened so far.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
He is seen as a S.
But he’s not going to help us at S this year so it doesn’t really matter. He’s a project.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Dude
It’s getting old. What would you have done? Reached for Saffold over Bryant in the first? Reached for Burnett in the 2nd?
There was no value. You lose in this league by making dumb draft choices just to fill a need. Jerry got great value with pretty much every pick; I’ve got no ammo in terms of criticism for him. If he’d chosen Bryant over Earl Thomas at 23, It’s one thing. But he chose Bryant over Saffold, McCourty, and Hughes. I have no problem with that.
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I don't have an issue with the 1st rounder.
It’s everything after that. Yeah, Sean Lee is a good player. And ILB is a bit of a need (though not immediate). There’s no other way for me to put it. The draft is over and we still two gaping holes.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
The Cowboys had Sean Lee graded as a first rounder
That indicates he was one of their top 23.
Burnett, the next safety taken, was picked 71st.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
We could have traded back into the 3rd and took either Burnett or Wright and I would have been happy.
Nobody we took after the 3rd impresses me at all. I’ve got nothing against Lee, I think he’s going to be a good LB for a long time, but I just can’t help being mad that we didn’t get a FS. I’m aggravated at the O-line too, but there’s a lot of guys that are going to be UDFAs that we will have a chance at (Black, Carter, Tyshovnytsky, Capers, Matthews, and Washington), so hopefully we jump on a few of those guys. If we do I will instantly feel a lot better about the draft. But I’m worried big time about our FS situation. We have to sign Sharper/Atogwe now. It’s an absolute must.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I agree we need someone
But I’m not as worried about it as the situation would normally warrant… remember, Sensebaugh was almost unheard of last year. We brought him in, and aside from that one play where he didn’t even notice the ball had been thrown to Sidney Rice, who he was running right with… he was very solid. You can find decent safeties.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
Let's hope so.
Like I said, there are a couple of more than decent safeties available. Sharper, Atogwe, both of those guys would be massive upgrades over what we had last year. There is also some talk that Nick Collins might be on his way out in Green Bay. The problem is, the Cowboys are talking like they’ve already made their mind up that Ball is going to be the guy. The same kind of talk they’ve been spewing about Free. I am not optimistic that they will do the right thing, but there is still time for them to prove me wrong.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Of course
There’s always the possibility that you’re wrong about both of those guys, too.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
But most people don’t think so. Especially on Ball.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Yeah, I'm not optimistic on Ball
But Free is better than Flozell. I have almost no doubt of that.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
So what does our starting OL look like at this point?
Free, Davis, Gurode, Kosier, Columbo?
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
Yea.
From left to right: Free, Kosier, Gurode, Davis, Colombo.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I'm with you.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Probably not going to happen
But I wanted to see this: Gaither, Davis, Gurode, Colombo, Free
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I don't know if I would say better.
If the Minnesota game is any evidence that’s not true. I admit though, he was kind of thrown into that situation without really preparing for it, so under the circumstances I guess you could argue that he did alright (that’s what most people say to me on Free). I just can’t overlook the fact that Jared Allen was not a factor until Free came in. I think he’s most definitely more disciplined than Flo. The penalties on the left side should go down considerably. Hopefully he can dominate those elite pass rushers like Flo did though. Either way, even if I’m wrong about him (which I will admit has a pretty good chance of happening), we still need to bring in some depth there. Our most competent backup T right now is McQuistan. Yikes.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
The Minnesota game really exposed our oline.
We just could not protect Romo, and he doesn’t throw the ball away fast enough to make up for it like Brees did in the NFC Championship.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
A couple of things
Allen wasn’t a nonfactor before Free entered the game. He was Jared Allen; he just hadn’t recorded a sack yet. Flo didn’t get very many snaps.
Flo wasn’t a great tackle last year. In fact, he wasn’t even average.
He’s still a fantastic run blocker (which is why I think he’d be well-served converting to guard, Leonard Davis-style) but he can’t passblock anymore. Dude gave up 8 sacks, 7 QB hits, and 34 pressures last year.
Free played mostly on the right side, but he was solidly above-average there. He can’t pave lanes or seal an edge for the RBs like Flo can, but he’s a more reliable passblocker.
And as I recall, the one sack Allen got in that Minnesota game was actually on Witten.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
Yeah, I've seen the Pro Football Focus stuff.
Check out Gaither.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Yeah
That I’ll give you. If Gaither could have really been had for a second rounder, I would have supported that with every fiber of my being.
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Don't care.
They also think Roy Williams is a good receiver.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
And that's why they took a receiver in the first
It all makes sense now.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Williams cut
Though it would take a huge mea culpa by Jerry to do it. We gave up so much for him.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
They still thought he was good enough to give up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th for him.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
He was better in Detroit.
But more importantly, do you really value your own opinion over theirs?
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
If their plan is to roll with Doug Free and Allen Ball as the starters
Then yes, yes I do.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
It is a fact.
There are better options. It’s not even up for discussion.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Ball is much worse than Free.
There is no rationale where Ball makes sense.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
It's true though man.
I’m sorry, but it is.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
What's true?
That you’re right? Well, no, it isn’t. It’s your opinion. And since you’re not a professional in the field, I value it a lot less than someone whose job it is to make these types of decisions.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Just tell me this then.
(A) Do you think Doug Free is better than Jared Gaither?
(B) Do you think Alan Ball is better than Darren Sharper or OJ Atogwe?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Okay, then you agree that there are better options available.
So you think I’m right. I’m not going to worry about the draft anymore. I don’t think we could have upgraded LT unless we got in the top 10, and that wasn’t happening. I do fully believe that there were guys all the way up the 3rd that would have upgraded FS though. But it doesn’t matter, it didn’t happen. Now we have to look to FA. There’s still opportunity to improve, but I’m not convinced that those opportunities will be taken. I think they are content with what they have, and I think that decision is wrong. If we win the Super Bowl then I’ll eat crow. But if those positions aren’t upgraded I see no chance in hell of that happening.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I was responding to talk of the draft
So no, I don’t think you’re right.
Talk about Gaither is neither here nor there. It’s not as if he’s just knocking on the door at Valley Ranch, waiting to be let in.
And I’ve never said that I’m happy with Ball starting. But I also don’t think some 5th round safety is going to be better than him on day one. I’m fine with pursuing other options.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm fine with pursuing other options too.
We kinda have no choice now. We do, I guess, but standing pat is the wrong move.
And you know it doesn’t work that way with Gaither, come on now. It doesn’t matter if he’s standing outside of Valley Ranch with a boombox over his head blaring Endless Love. It’s completely up to the Ravens what happens to him. I don’t know, I seriously doubt anything will be done to significantly boost the O-line as far as adding a starter. They might bring in some backup quality guys off of the scrap heap, but that’s probably it. I don’t like it, but if it turns out to work then I guess I can deal with it.
They absolutely can not ignore free safety though.
And for the record I don’t think anybody in the 5th would have been an upgrade over what we had. That’s why I was so upset about not taking one of the impact guys early. There were game changers available all the way up to the 3rd. Again though, the draft is over so it doesn’t matter now.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
x
And you know it doesn’t work that way with Gaither, come on now. It doesn’t matter if he’s standing outside of Valley Ranch with a boombox over his head blaring Endless Love. It’s completely up to the Ravens what happens to him.
That was my point.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
They want to get rid of him, they have made that clear.
Just depends on what they want. It doesn’t matter though, the Cowboys aren’t going to make a move on him. They think Doug Free is the guy. They’ll go after a depth guy if anything.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Because Jerry has never made a mistake before.
Or over/undervalued a player.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I'm not talking about blind adherence
But the dude is making the typical draft-day mistake of thinking every player is going to definitely reach his ceiling.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you figure?
If you’re talking about Ball, we’re assuming that he is what he is.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
No, I'm not talking Ball.
I’m talking about X safety picked in the draft yesterday or today.
by brettgardner on Apr 24, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I've already said that I don't fault Jerry for either of the first or second round picks.
Dez is a great pick, imo, and if they thought Lee was a first rounder and got him where they did, then I’m fine with that, too.
I’ll be PISSED if we don’t get someone better than Ball, though.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I would have either traded up for Earl Thomas or Nate Allen.
And more likely Nate Allen, looking back on it. I really don’t have a problem with picking Dez in the first.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
If Snead is still on the available...
I would like him as a UDFA.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Amazing
Todd McShay had that guy as a top 5 pick a year ago. How the mighty have fallen…and how questionable is Todd McShay?
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I agree...
but Snead really fell flat on his face. BTW, I really liked Snead too last year but he sucked something fierce this year.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Just ignore McShay.
That guy is an idiot.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
So Jake Locker or Sam Bradford?
Jake Locker for me.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Yeah, tenuously
Hard to say so far… I think Mallet might be on that level, too.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
Mallet...
very talented but too many mistakes. Next years top three QB’s are looking really good. Locker, Luck and Mallet.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I'm willing to bet...
that not a single QB from this years draft will be a good NFL QB.
I’m not sold on Locker at the next level either.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Here's my top 25 for next year
1 Jake Locker
2 AJ Green
3 Greg Romeus
4 Joseph Barksdale
5 Patrick Peterson
6 Cameron Hayward
7 Mark Ingram
8 Ras-I Dowling
9 Ryan Mallett
10 Anthony Castonzo
11 Julio Jones
12 Michael Floyd
13 DeAndre McDaniel
14 Allen Bailey
15 Jonathan Baldwin
16 Adrian Clayborn
17 Travis Lewis
18 Brandon Harris
19 Andrew Luck
20 Da’Quan Bowers
21 Marvin Austin
22 Christian Ponder
23 Jeremy Beal
24 Kristofer O’Dowd
25 Gabe Carimi
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Tim Toone...
is the most fitting name for a Mr. Irrelevant that is possible.
by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 24, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
The NFL Draft Bible reports center Phil Coast from Maryland has signed with the Dallas Cowboys.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Phil Costa
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
I still can't believe that Tebow went in the first round.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
I knew somebody would do it.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
BTW, if we're still talking about picking up safeties...
Darian Stewart is available as an UFA. He graded out higher than Rolle by quite a bit.
Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.
NFL Draft Bible reports the Dallas Cowboys have signed former Arizona fullback Chris Gronkowski.
"There's not a man alive who can whup me. I'm too fast. I'm too smart. I'm too pretty. I should be a postage stamp. That's the only way I'll ever get licked." --Muhammad Ali
Mock Draft Grading.
2 systems, one from The Huddle Report, one from OCC over at BTB.
Rick Gosselin grades out better by OCC’s method than the Huddle Report method this year, but check out Gosselin’s 5 year average from the Huddle Report. Numero Uno. Mel Kiper also grades out better than some might expect, both this year and over the past 5 years (Number 3 in both).
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
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