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T.R. Sullivan with pre-game notes

T.R. Sullivan has a bunch of pre-game notes up, including the news that Brandon McCarthy is heading to the 7 day disabled list at AAA with issues relating to his shoulder and his stress fracture problems, the game plan for Ian Kinsler (rehab stint in Frisco with a possible return to the majors on Friday), and specualtion that Ryan Garko could be gone, rather than Andres Blanco or Joaquin Arias, when Kinsler returns...

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Who's our back up 1B then, Blanco?

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Murphy can't hit lefties

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't stop Wash

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 26, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

too true

can we DFA Wash instead of Garko?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets DFA both

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 26, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

even better

2 birds with one DFA, hell yeah

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So

This isn’t a platoon situation. Smoak is the everyday 1B now and only when he needs a day off will the backup, in this case Murph, play. You can schedule those for days when a righty is playing.

If Smoak goes down with an injury then Davis is called back up and you roll with him.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

and you see it in Murphy's performance against the lefties

he has 11 SOs in 27 ABs. That is Davisian

well, most people see it. Not wash, like you said

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those are his season totals

11 SOs in 27 AB

vs RHP: 6 SOs in 14 ABs
vs LHP: 5 SOs in 13 ABs

by mgb5 on Apr 26, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop using that damned logic & facts!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 26, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not the case

He’s started against more righties than lefties (4 vs. 3). Snell, Buchholz, Scherzer, Porcello.

by mgb5 on Apr 26, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

So every start has been against a lefty

except in the last week (which means the first two weeks of the season), leaving aside that one in the first two weeks? Got it.

To be honest, I hadn’t recalled that many starts against righties, either. Was curious, so did a little checking over at Baseball Reference.

by mgb5 on Apr 26, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

neither can Garko anymore

apparently.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 27, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poor BMac

and his Avian Bone Syndrome.

"When you play Happy," Andrus said, "good things will happen."

by Feliz es bueno on Apr 26, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

garko's been turrible

but we’re gonna carry two backup who cant play 1st? dont like it.

bad news about bmac, he’s been pitching so well. not surprising, however. godspeed, bmac, we might be needing you real soon…

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Apr 26, 2010 4:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Some good numbers...

Teams thought to be playoff contenders with records the same or worse than the Rangers:

 Boston Red Sox 8-11
 Chicago White Sox 8-11
 Atlanta Braves 8-10
 Milwaukee Brewers 8-10
 Los Angeles Dodgers 8-10

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 26, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Wash is a dumbass

not that I nneded to remind anyone

Manager Ron Washington said he’s planning to put Kinsler back in the No. 5 spot in the order between Vladimir Guerrero and Nelson Cruz. That was the plan before he got hurt.

What if Ian goes 0-for-Frisco? Do they still activate him?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 26, 2010 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Why spilt up the Dominating Dominican Bash Brothers?

Unless you want Cruz to be able to hit with more men on base maybe. Elvis is obviously working at the lead off spot very well, while Borbon figures things out.

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers 100 heh

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me

Don’t really care a ton one way or the other.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Apr 26, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've gone from very much against firing him...

to ok with a move being made. Especially with Bobby V. sitting on a TV set waiting for a call.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

A few teams are interested in Bobby V.

which makes Wash’s seat that much hotter.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Orioles are in the mix supposedly

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that .510 career winning percentage is so fucking tantalizing

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 26, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

If I was kidding I would have followed with one of those gay smilies.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oates was better if I remember right

Maybe we should exhume his corpse and sit him in the dugout :D

by Inkara1 on Apr 26, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oates was pretty good managing egos

and not too bad at lineup and bullpen. Of course, he had a pretty damn stout lineup much of the time.

Born to be mild.

by t ball on Apr 26, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby V.

You really want him handling these arms?

Go look what he did to Eddie Correa and Bobby Witt.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might want to research that.

Edwin Correa may have been the best pitcher the Rangers ever developed. And Bobby V went all Dusty Baker on him.

"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10

by Oddibee on Apr 26, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know who fucking Edwin Correa was

But Valentine is exactly what this club needs right now, and I’m pretty sure Maddux has a pretty good grip on handling the pitching staff

by blueballlefty on Apr 26, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
But Valentine is exactly what this club needs right now

What is that?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think the way he handled Correa and Witt...

…is the way Holland and Feliz should be handled?

Or do you think he’s do things differently, and thus he’d be okay?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

No manager is perfect.

Yet it seems this fan base demands they be perfect. Many other teams have given him the keys and many more want him now for a reason.

Do I think he’d go “Dusty Baker” on Holland and Feliz, no I do not.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait

He’s been given the keys only one other place in the majors — the Mets — and they eventually hated him and ran him out of town.

I don’t think many teams are after him right now to manage, at least in the majors.

I think Valentine has his attributes as a manager, but given his history of burning out young arms, and the fact that young arms is this team’s greatest asset right now, I’d be very leery of rolling with him.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan and Maddux

Two reasons why I don’t think he will burn out our young arms.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what exactly does he bring?

If he needs oversight to keep him from f’n up why would you want him?

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Apr 26, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

well he never

opened any Bobby V’s in New York so of course the Mets fans didn’t like him, his cheesesticks are part of what makes him a great manager

by blueballlefty on Apr 26, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cheesesticks

we can agree on cheesesticks!

"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10

by Oddibee on Apr 26, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a lot more knowledge about pitchers today

than there was back in the days of Witt/Correa and I think Bobby V would adapt.

Correa also used to pitch a lot of winter ball in PR and that’s probably what killed his career more than anything.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

and just as likely

no GM would allow Valentine to do that again. I agree that Valentine is probably smarter about that now, but I don’t see the Rangers hiring him.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on Apr 27, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1 bring him on!

I'm straight for Heidi Richardson.

by BigGuns on Apr 26, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Valentine's ego

Valentine’s ego is too big to just let the pitching coach have that much control over the pitching staff.

In fact, his ego is probably the biggest aspect as to why he’d be a bad hire here…I think that the front office wants a low-profile, low-power manager, and Bobby V. is the type who was going to pull Derek Holland out after 6 innings at 107 pitches, but since Mike Maddux suggested he come out, he’ll leave him out there for 135 pitches just to show who is in charge here.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

we've had a low profile low power

manager for the last four years and each year we’ve started off bad for the same reason SLOPPY play, and I think you are incorrect there, I doubt that scenario would play out that way

by blueballlefty on Apr 26, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Valentine is not the answer

I don’t get why people like him so much

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

All good managers have ego's

but they also have coaches to let them know whether a pitcher is good to go or not. Your idea that he would override his pitching coach just to prove a point is baseless.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Maddux isn’t “his” pitching coach. He’s the pitching coach that was hired and given to him. I don’t think they have any prior relationship.

Hey, I could be wrong…and don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good manager and I loved him when he was here. I just don’t think he’s the type who would fit in here in the role that would be desired.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they'll turn it around

making this argument pointless, but who out there is better to replace Wash, if necessary and get us to the playoffs?

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect that...

…if Wash is fired, Clint Hurdle would take over for the rest of the season.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way this team is hitting

he might beat Wash to the unemployment line.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he won't

They aren’t going to fire Hurdle right after hiring him because the team isn’t hitting in the first three weeks of the season.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

but it’s not exactly a feather in Hurdle’s cap when he’s up for a promotion either.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa, did I say he should be canned?

No, what I implied was he could be replaced the way we’re hitting. That’s not calling for him to be, that stating something that could happen if they don’t turn it around.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If BoReed doesn't...

…start making better arguments, I don’t like his chances to last at LSB much longer.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time

getting my points down to a few sentences. I’m adjusting so don’t toss me to the curb yet.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

did I overreact?

Yes I did, that’s what I do.

Born to be mild.

by t ball on Apr 26, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

you’re not going to offend me, just clarifying my position.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i have a hard time calling this guy anything but an idiot

by ab03 on Apr 26, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pot calling the kettle black here.

Sorry I disagree with the LSB mainstays but the facts remain this team is playing far below their talent level and if anyone thinks that there’s a single coach outside of Maddux who isn’t on the hot seat you are frankly the idiot in the argument.

Promoting Hurdle to manager is as laughable as it is stupid.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But it’s also likely the most realistic scenario.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're excited about small samples, go look at the team's walk rate

compared with 2009. That’s improvement in approach, exactly what we hoped for with Hurdle.

Born to be mild.

by t ball on Apr 26, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geez, once again...

I’m not calling for him to go because it is a small sample size. Just don’t see the guy as the answer for manager if Wash is fired.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

I’m laughing at this entire discussion where no matter what you say we all jump on it.

Born to be mild.

by t ball on Apr 26, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't care if you disagree.

We care if you make poor arguments.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be clear

It’s the Bobby V. slob knobbing that i am critical of.

Seriously, you have some faint recollection that he was a manager of the Rangers when you watched 20 years ago and you want him back strictly for that reason – also throwing in that he took the Mets to the World Series. That’s it. You couldn’t tell me shit about his managing style otherwise.

by ab03 on Apr 26, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, that's valid.

but nostalgia is not my reason for looking toward Bobby V. if we make a change. I just don’t know anyone better who’s available at this point.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are reaching for Bobby V.

then you haven’t done any research as to who’s out there at all. There are at least 5 guys ahead of Bobby V. on anybody’s list and probably closer to 15 if you take into consideration internal candidates.

by ab03 on Apr 26, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you name those 15?

I’m truly curious to see this list.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I obviously can't name internal options for every team

But minor league managers and hitting coaches figure prominently into managerial searches

But to give you an idea

Grady Little
Davey Johnson
DeMarlo Hale
Bob Brenly
Buck Martinez

I think those guys are all available. And I don’t even think that’s a good list but I think they’re all better than Bobby V.

by ab03 on Apr 26, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

on Johnson, Brenly and Martinez.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what annoys me?

The fact that people put so much stock into who the manager is like it makes an enormous difference. Is there some kind of stat for Managers where Warsh has a WAR of -10 and Bobby Cox has a +10…..very overrated.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except that

the team’s selectivity (well, ok. Hamilton’s and Andrus’ selectivity) has greatly improved.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 26, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe

and I think it is obvious that any manager hired no matter the ego or what will have to have Maddux as his pitching coach, I could be wrong but I don’t think so,

by blueballlefty on Apr 26, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except that he doesn't have that choice.....

And b/c Nolan has Maddux’ back, I’m pretty sure it’d be the other way around.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you want to bring in a guy...

…that you admit would create discord before he was even introduced to the players. Seems like a good plan…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Create discord before he was even introduced to the players?

Have you talked to the players about that, or are you making the same kind of poor argument that you rebuffed some guy a minute ago for?

Your entitled to your opinion, as is he, Mr. Highhorse.

FuckFace is the new official nickname of Michael Young. - lonestarJon

by jackanape on Apr 26, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, logic.

His response to “i’m pretty sure bobby V would run maddux out of town” wasn’t “no, he’d be on board with having such a good pitching coach” it was “Nolan would keep Maddux from being fired”

So, in this scenario, there is discord between a theoretical Valentine side and a Nolan-Maddux side.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected, at the source and object of the discord.

Didn’t read it right.

FuckFace is the new official nickname of Michael Young. - lonestarJon

by jackanape on Apr 26, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'm fine sticking with Wash for now.

I’m just arguing against your point b/c I don’t believe it’s valid.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then that also makes this discussion moot

because I doubt Nolan would hire Bobby V. for the reason that I doubt Bobby V. would let Nolan pick his staff to that extent.

by ab03 on Apr 26, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's

an argument that has some validity

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

I think the chances of hiring a new manager after the Wash fire is nearly zero, this team doesn’t have any money to spend on managers right now, when they fire Wash it will either be Hurdle or Buechelle as an interim manager

by blueballlefty on Apr 26, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep they can't afford Bobby V.

He’ll wind up back with the Mets. They love him there.

I'm straight for Heidi Richardson.

by BigGuns on Apr 26, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's interesting...

…I’m wondering if Valentine isn’t like the Rangers version of Jimmy Johnson.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me.

I don’t think he should be fired.

"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10

by Oddibee on Apr 26, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The job of a modern-day manager

is to manage egos. We all gripe about “he should do this” or “he shouldn’t do that” but the fact of the matter is no one has quit on him. It isn’t his fault that Teagarden has suddenly forgotten how to hit a baseball, or that FrankieFrank blew two saves.

I really love how people get upset about comments like “we have confidence in Teagarden”… what else is he going to say? You never hear anonymous quotes from players who feel disrespected or are upset about the manager.

I believe that will pay off for Wash this season. It is a long season, and they’ll be fine.

Bobby V will come back to some team, and they’ll stab him in the back and quit on him in three months. Not to say he isn’t a brilliant manager… but he isn’t a leader of men.

"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10

by Oddibee on Apr 26, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you serious?

the way you describe it my grandma could be a quality major league manager

by blueballlefty on Apr 26, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't underestimate the respect Wash gets

for being a former player. Did your Grandma play pro ball?

"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10

by Oddibee on Apr 26, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't front on his momma

She held Kareem to 16 points and 8 boards in one game back in the 70s.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 26, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then

no wonder he has a blue ball.

"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10

by Oddibee on Apr 26, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time disagreeing with anything he said.

And while I wouldn’t shed a tear if Wash got fired and fully expect him to if we don’t make the playoffs this year or fall more than 5 or 6 games out in the coming weeks….I do think he makes valid points. And one thing he didn’t mention….no one expected this team to win 87 games last year, and especially given the years that Chris Davis and Josh Hamilton had. I think Wash should get credit for that.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oddibee is right about much of that

but that still doesn’t mean there is no reason to fire Washington.

Born to be mild.

by t ball on Apr 26, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But if KInsler truly is healthy, doesn’t this neglect his speed having the cumbersome Vlad ahead of him?

by casew on Apr 26, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Idea:

Put Kinsler in the 3 hole, slide Hamilton back to 4, Vlad to 5, Nellie to 6. That is a stupid good lineup.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Apr 26, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even better

Kinsler at 3, and squeez Hamilton between Vlad and Cruz.

"…although it does kinda show how little faith they have in Cruz, whether that be the org as a whole or just our beloved, bespectacled, kool-lovin’ skipper."

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2010 5:48 PM EST

by hillcrest on Apr 26, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you do that, I vote putting Cruz in the clean-up spot.

But not a terrible idea for sure.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Apr 26, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer Kinsler hitting 6th, he pretty was a .220 hitter for the 2nd half of the year.

Why bump your best hitter to 6th? Makes no sense.

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nellie isn't the best hitter right now man...

That would be Vlad.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Apr 26, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 26, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every time I begin getting over my hatred for UT

Another JackAss pops up and helps me rekindle it.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vlad is our best hitter at home, sub .200 on the road.

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Apr 26, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nellie is the best hitter on this team

with the, especially the most power. You want him getting more ABs. Nellie should seriously be in the 4-Hole, bump Hamilton back to 5 and Kinsler to 6. That’s the best way to go. You can’t make a lineup trying to please everybody, you have to build the lineup that will score the most runs. That starts with the basics of having your best hitters have more PAs

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The difference in 5 and 6 is maybe one AB a week

But the upside is theres a much better chance of having guys on base and guys in scoring position for Nellie to drive in with Kinsler hitting in front of him.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

I think Nellie should be in the 3 Hole and the difference in that is way more than 20 ABs in a season. Even if you look at the lineup now, Nellie is leading the league in RBIs, he’s not going to get more opportunities by moving him back a spot. If anything Nellie should be moved up and hamilton bumped down, and Kinsler definitely shouldn’t move ahead of him.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 26, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hamilton isn't moving from 3

Thats like saying Young should move from the 2 hole it just isn’t happeneing so while you may want to live in la-la-land I’ll look at reality.

So 1-3 is locked up you could make a case to move Nellie to 4 but we all know theres no way Wash is moving Vlad in favor of Nellie especially with the way Vlad is hitting right now. So that leaves you with either 5 or 6. Either way theres going to be plenty of RBI opportunities but putting a guy who could be a .350+ OBP guy in front of Nellie isn’t a bad thing. If Kinsler comes back from injury and is struggling then I don’t think it would take long to switch it right back to Nellie at 5.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

That whole small sample size thing applies here as well. Nellie can be a streaky hitter and I’m not sure it’s the best idea to start altering who hits in which spot based on a few weeks. Obviously, he’s playing great right now, but I think I’d like to see him do it for longer before I start talking about making moves that would be unpopular with general fans and possibly the clubhouse. If we’re still having this discussion in a month, then I’d be more amenable.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would be absolutey fine with that.

He does have the most power, no question. But at least at home, Vlad is sending baseballs into the outfield and seats like laser beams. You have to think a guy who hits that well at home ought to hit clean-up.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Apr 26, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Kinsler hitting 2nd?

Move Young to either 3rd or 6th and make a few tweaks.. I’d love Borbon at 9 Andrus at 1 Kinsler at 2, with that speed it would set the table nicely for our 3-6 hitters.

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Apr 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

My absolute favorite lineup, all things considered:

1. Andrus
2. Kinsler
3. Hamilton
4. Vlad
5. Nelly
6. Face
7. Smoak
8. Anyone playing catcher but TfT
9. Borbon

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Apr 26, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

or in other words

King
Kins
Bone
Impaler
Nelly (can’t improve on that one)
Face
On the Water dude
Mr. Misty May (triple M. gotta love that one)
Over ice

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 26, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surely he's not serious, he just can't be that stupid...

Please tell me he can’t…..

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Apr 26, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone can be that stupid

And don’t call me Shirley

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 26, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cruz is our best hitter right now

But he isn’t going to supplant Vlad at cleanup so the idea of having a guy like Kinsler getting on in front of Nellie isn’t terrible. Its not like hes saying hes putting Davis between Vlad and Nellie.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out..

…how this thread got hijacked by a bunch of knee-jerking, DMN-quality, morons?

Is there something we can do to prevent this from happening again?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You could go back to your porn sites?

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Apr 26, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yawn.

Guess we’ll just let the LSB vanguard to the dirty work again. Wonder where philkid’s been at…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 26, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

We could trade Martin Perez for Johan Santana

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 26, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

We really don't need a guy

who’s only job is to back-up 1B, a spot that looks to give him little playing time now, and who hasn’t shown that he can hit in his limited playing time. I’d be okay with giving Garko more time if he didn’t seem so universally unwanted by MLB. If Smoak needs a day off, let Murphy play there or give Blanco/Arias a quick tutorial on how to play 1st.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 26, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

YAY BLACKHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

We just got rid of a 1B who could actually play the position and hit a little.

You want to replace him with one who can’t do either?

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Apr 26, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also can Salty still play 1B, that might work as well

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

line ups
Rangers lineup: Elvis Andrus, ss; Michael Young, 3b; Josh Hamilton, lf; Vladimir Guerrero, dh; Nelson Cruz, rf; Justin Smoak, 1b; Taylor Teagarden, c; Andres Blanco, 2b; Julio Borbon, cf.

Tigers lineup: Austin Jackson, cf; Johnny Damon, dh; Magglio Ordonez, rf; Miguel Cabrera, 1b; Brandon Inge, 3b; Ryan Raburn, lf; Gerald Laird, c; Scott Sizemore, 2b; Ramon Santiago, ss.

Arias is trying to pulling a BMac. TT starting again. :(

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/tonights-lineups-34.html

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 26, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Might be time to hack out a rib.

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Apr 26, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We already have enough of those on this team.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 26, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh...Teagarden......really?

Why not demote Teagarden to AAA, make Treanor the starter and have Richardson back him up until Salty gets back?

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

40 man

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind

backing up Richardson’s wife.

"…although it does kinda show how little faith they have in Cruz, whether that be the org as a whole or just our beloved, bespectacled, kool-lovin’ skipper."

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2010 5:48 PM EST

by hillcrest on Apr 26, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bazinga

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw this flash across from Kinslerhomer's twitter
Sad news. #Rangers bench coach Jackie Moore’s daughter died. Scott Servais will serve as the sixth coach tonight

Very sad

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 26, 2010 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

horrible, thoughts out to the Moore family.

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Apr 26, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's terrible.

Thoughts and prayers to their family.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

very sad...seems like a good guy

What about Scott Servais as Wash’s replacement if/when he gets fired?

by trgordon723 on Apr 26, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

About Harrison
Matt Harrison has had two good starts and one bad start. Already speculation that Derek Holland should take his spot in rotation. Only on the Rangers.

No, every team has plenty of fans doing that kind of thing.

Born to be mild.

by t ball on Apr 26, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

This argument is more about Holland dominating AAA

and Harrison for some reason is the guy everyone looks at that can be sent to the pen to make room for the promotion.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who else would go?

Harden, Lewis, CJ, and Scooter are all out of options so Harrisons spot is the only one that has flexibility to change who fills it unless someone goes on the DL

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mathis

I am in no way advocating such a change at this point, but if you did bump someone from the rotation then you could make them a long man in the bullpen and option Mathis to AAA.

by mgb5 on Apr 26, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not a fan of taking a young guy and moving them to the long man role in the pen

If they aren’t going to impact games then send them to AAA and let them continue developing down there. I don’t think Harrison has failed as a starter and even if he goes and has a bad game tonight I don’t think it means hes failed. He needs to continue starting every 5 days whether it be here or in OKC and then if he doesn’t continue making steps in the right direction as a starter then you convert him to a relief pitcher

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just pointing out

There are other possible options besides bumping Harrison’s spot in the rotation or a DL trip for someone.

by mgb5 on Apr 26, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, if I do that to anyone

its Harden. (at least for a short time.) it limits his innings, it allows him to work on his command in lower leverage innings, and it opens up a spot.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 26, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Send your “ace”, your big FA signing, your 7.5 million dollar man to the bullpen to be Dustin Nippert.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The cubs did it...

It him or Feldman, and we know what Feldman looks like in the pen.

And really, its not the 4.58 ERA, its the 17.2 innings in 4 starts and nearly 2 WHIP. He’s struggling with his command right now, and giving him the chance to work it out helps the team.

BTW:

Name ERA BABIP
Feldman 5.40 .347
Harden 4.58 .311
Harrison 4.24 .218
Lewis 3.80 .310
Wilson 1.37 . 286

Well…. maybe it isn’t Harden that will be demoted. (arrow pointing directly at you Mr Harrison)

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 26, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zambrano has been a Cub awhile

Harden was a FA signing this past winter and if you ever want to sign another FA pitcher with his potential and stuff you can’t send him to the bullpen after 4 starts.

Just because one team does something somewhat similar doesn’t make it the norm

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is holland throwing his breaking pitches

or is he just throwing his fastball by people (which did not work in the majors last year for him)

by jonathan rigby on Apr 26, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last I heard

he was mixing in a slider with the 4 seam, 2 seam, change and curve combo. Don’t have any stats on how much offspeed stuff he’s actually throwing though.

by BoReed on Apr 26, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

DFAing Garko would be kind of dumb with Smoak's MiLB track record against lefties

Fucking Arias. Even when he’s doing well he’s fucking our plans up.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 26, 2010 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Garkos 2010 track record against lefties isn't exactly wonderful

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 26, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Extremely SSS

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152

by RangersSD on Apr 27, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

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