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10-11

What a weird game.

Rich Harden and Neftali Feliz were both pretty awful, but they get the win and the save, respectively.

I suspect we'll hear tomorrow about Ron Washington having another sit-down with Elvis Andrus, after he got picked off for the second time in two games.

I tend to think that Andrus's extreme self-confidence leads to situations where either he's a little careless, or else he's too aggressive in terms of what he can get away with.  Both Mark Buehrle and Jake Peavy caught him leaning, which is an error of aggressiveness.  I'm thinking he'll be getting a talk about maintain focus tomorrow.

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Hey, its a win

Wins are good, no matter how they happen

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

You’re pretty hell bent on this. I like it.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

is that a calamari cake?

yum.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Apr 29, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's a trap!

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Apr 29, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A makeup firing for 2008

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe elvis gets a talking to

but the very next time he was on base he stole second on the first pitch. so i’m guessing nothing happens

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I think frankie is a step closer to

regaining his closer job. Let Feliz go back to his role that he had last year.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's go on to sweep for a bid at .500

I really really want to get out of the AL West cellar and take advantage of the rest of the division playing poorly.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 28, 2010 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Our bullpen needs to settle down. Jeez. Way too close for comfort.

Also attention MLB pitchers: do not pitch inside to Josh Hamilton, he will hit them a long way.

by coolaid on Apr 28, 2010 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Where should he look

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

See also: Starter goes 8

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be a good day

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be a good day

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha bad me

I have no idea how it double posted?

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

We wouldn't even have to pull out our AK

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

But has the Lord made it?

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 29, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, he contracted out

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 29, 2010 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Outsourcing again?

Fuck……..

Random funny statement from someone on LSB here.

by Aqua on Apr 29, 2010 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Das wäre ein guter Tag

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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by WhipSmart on Apr 29, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless they have a 10-run first, I don't think this team is capable of scoring that many runs in a single sitting

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I feel like I see every team winning big now and then but us.

by philkid3 on Apr 29, 2010 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only a partial bullpen meltdown!!!

The Floppy Curse has been broken!!!

"Support the Dutch Oven"

by RangerFloppy on Apr 28, 2010 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

congrats...

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. Teach a man to create an artificial shortage of fish and he eats steak.

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Apr 28, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yay!

The rumor I mentioned is still in my back pocket, though. You have been warned, good Floppy.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Screw Frankie for the 9th

use Ray a time or two and let Feliz have an extra day rest

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Apr 28, 2010 10:04 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Kinlser looked good tonight

He had a nice line drive 1B to CF follwed by a stolen base. His second hit was a broken bat looper to LF. He wasn’t tested much in the field.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

What's wrong?

How was his velocity tonight? His secondary pitches?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. He gives up too many runs

2. I have no idea the reason, that’s why they should figure out how to have him not give up so many runs. Worked VERY well for Holland so far, so it’s just a suggestion

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously

It did work very well for Holland so far

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feliz has pitched 10 2/3 innings

He’s allowed 7 runs.

I don’t think he’s broken to the point he needs to go to AAA to get fixed.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me neither

But he isn’t the best choice for closer right now. And he isn’t helping the team in the majors right now. And it is still possible/likely that he will be a great starter for the Rangers for many years. So develop that in the minors.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay

What do you think he’s going to do the rest of the way out of the pen?

Post a 6+ ERA?

Is 10 innings in the first month to convince you he won’t help the team in the majors this year?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

He will turn it around, but he won’t be the best in the pen the rest of the way. The Rangers are pulling the trigger quick, and Feliz has to not hurt the team game after game. A change needs to be made, whatever it is… it worked for Frankie, change that is.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has hurt the Rangers in a couple of games

And came close to doing the same tonight but barely made it out. You know your closer can’t do that at any point of the year. Isn’t that why the Rangers swapped him out with Frankie in the first place?

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think about what you are saying

You are saying that a closer cannot hurt his team at any point of the year.

But that happens. Closers will blow saves. Feliz has not been good in his last two outings.

If you think a closer who struggles two outings in a row should lose his job and be sent to the minors, then Feliz should go to the minors, but you’ll end up with no one in the bullpen before too long.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 games not 2

In his last 4 games, he has given up 6 runs. A closer can’t do that. Again, isn’t that why the Rangers pulled Frankie?

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 games?

He pitched fine on 4/23. He gave up 2 runs, but that wasn’t because he didn’t pitch well.

He had a scoreless inning on 4/25.

He gave up 2 bombs on 4/26, the first time he tried to pitch back-to-back games.

And he struggled today.

That doesn’t warrant sending him to the minors.

And the Rangers pulled Frankie because his stuff, his command, and his body language was horrible, and because Feliz is better than Frankie anyway.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Giving up 2 runs and blowing a save is pitching well?

That is a tough arguement to sustain.

And I originally asked if his pitching warranted sending him to the minors to perform a Holland-esqe fix. Because I would much rather see Feliz as a long-term start for this team. But if not, then let him regain his abiltiy to not give up runs and help the team when he does.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see the game?

He got two outs, then gave up an infield single and a dying quail that should have been caught, but the outfielders were playing back to protect against an XBH. He then gave up a single up the middle.

He didn’t pitch poorly. Sometimes you pitch well, and balls fall in. It happens.

And I don’t understand what you mean by sending him down for “a Holland-esque fix.” I don’t understand why sending him down is going to fix him any better or faster than keeping him in the majors.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

What you said in your last sentence

If you are agreeing he needs to stop giving up runs, he should do that in the minors, not in the majors where it hurts the team now. I don’t care which is faster, just don’t want the runs in the majors.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

By that reasoning,

any pitcher who gives up runs should immediately be sent down. So who would be left in the bullpen?

by Josh Garoon on Apr 28, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay

He’s given up 6 runs in his last 4 outings. Your position is that that performance warrants demotion?

What are you going to do if, say, Dustin Nippert were to give up 4 runs tomorrow, and 2 runs a couple of days later?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Performance as the closer

I would have no problem with having Frankie moved back to the cloer role – second chance for the season. I would have no problem moving Feliz to a setup role like he was in before. But I would prefer to see him developed as a starter in the minors instead of him struggling as a non-top reliever in the majors.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Matt Harrison has been awful his last two starts. Should he be sent down?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

After his next start

If he struggles again, I have no problem replacing him with Holland. Do you?

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about Rich Harden?

Or Scott Feldman, who has struggled his last couple of outings?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no problem moving Harden into long relief

If he had continued to struggle. Less chance to hurt the team. But he had a turn around game today, giving up only 3 in 6. So there is no need for that.

If in his next 5 starts, Feldman didn’t have 1 quality start, went 0-4 giving up 20 runs, would you bring him out for the 6th start or move him to the pen to work things out?

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, you're calling Harden's game today a turn around game

and Feliz’s outting worthy of him being sent down.

I never started with you, but if I did, I’d be done.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 28, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 innings, 87 pitches

Quaility start. Yes, that is an improvement over where he has been. He still needs to improve more.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did get lucky with some well-placed double plays

But when has Harden ever gotten many ground balls before? I’m not saying his start is what I would want to see in game 1 of the playoffs but pitching to contact from time to time is a nice step in the right direction, if you ask me.

by Inkara1 on Apr 29, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta make an example of him

Draw and quarter him… That will show him… we been babying these pitchers and cutting them too much slack.

by lamron on Apr 28, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Send him to Oklahoma? pfft.

Babycrap. Give him six months in a Guatemalan prison- that’ll make a mean bastard out of him, and just in time for the playoffs.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

when compared to last year

he is broken.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's fucked up

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The other one is...not.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this point

B-Mac is like the equivalent of a lamp that you dropped and have repeatedly been attempting to glue back together with Elmers glue ever since.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Uh, ‘frah-gee-lay.’ It must be Italian!"
“Oh, I think that says ‘fragile,’ honey.”
“Oh, yeah.”

by lamron on Apr 28, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

he looks like a pink nightmare

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmmm

the warm glow of electric sex in the front window.

Hipsters, Flipsters, and Finger Poppin Daddies! Knock me your lobes.

by Escher on Apr 29, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know there's the Johan Santana argument ...

but at what point do you determine he isn’t developing in the pen. Even baby steps.

by shroomer on Apr 28, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Johan spent alot of time as a long reliever

in low leverage situations. Not a very good comp. imho

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better to send him to AAA.

Remember, Johan was a rule 5 his first year in 2000. His second year he only pitch 43 innings partially due to injury. In 2002 he started in the minors and was recalled on May 31. They used him as a SP until Sept when he went back to the bullpen. Likely to limit his IP.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

he is a 22 year old first time closer … he gave up a few runs, but got the last out … he might not be long for the closer spot, but he still belongs in the majors

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he still has a shot as a starter

So if he is not helping the team now, move him down, develop him as a starter, and have him win a couple hundred games for the Rangers the next 15 years

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really think the Rangers would be better this season...

…with Guillermo Moscoso or Zach Phillips up here instead of Feliz?

I expect he’s going to be our best reliever this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

that doesn't seem right

i think oliver will be better. maybe even francisco. and i think there’s an off chance scheppers or ogando could be better

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with that one

I don’t agree that Feliz will be the Rangers best reliever this year.

And If he is not in the top 4, which he isn’t now, develop him as a starter.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

he didn't really throw that many secondary pitches

but he missed more often than he hit. he was also leaving the fastball up in the zone a bit.

i also think he tips his pitches.

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait

not tips his pitches in physically letting people know. but it’s a little too obvious when he’s throwing fastballs.

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

wash told him to overpower

sooooooo

fastballs it is

he actually threw more offspeed stuff then normal tonight, i believe

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

one was a mixup

treanor wasn’t expecting it

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup, forgot about that one …

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes!

What’s wrong is that he’s pitching at the wrong end of the game….

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Apr 28, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they send him to AAA, he better be coming back as a starter.

I don’t really think that’s a half-bad idea at this point though. It’s starting to look like Feliz needs more rest between appearances than being a bullpen ace will allow.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not a bad idea

Considering I would prefer seeing Feliz as a starter for many years for the Rangers.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He throws so hard and is so young..

..I would want his arm getting enough rest to fully recover. Wasn’t it mentioned the night he pitched back to back that he had a hard time getting loose? That scares me…

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Apr 28, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's really simple.

They’re not giving him enough rest.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stupid motherfuckers are 1.5 games back

Fire the entire fucking front office. Except for demi-god Nolan…

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha

You are sparing just one

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard rumors that bAd tHings are bRewing

Trust me, I know everything.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

AHR

hmm, trying to figure out the caps…

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

bAd Radio?

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Apr 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

like what?

he watched a game without falling asleep

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

still, he would have to be awake … so that pretty much rules that out

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blender, spare

Ask me next month, and I’ll give you an definitive decision, and then wiggle out of it twelve ways to Sunday…

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

When does Kinsler get called up? Tomorrow or Friday?

Who gets cut? Arias? Blanco? Garko?

I would say Arias but wouldn’t be surprised if Garko get DFA’ed.

by coolaid on Apr 28, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

since him and garko are playing same amount lately.... whos cheaper

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Apr 28, 2010 10:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not sure anyone would bite

Other teams know the Rangers will cut him at some point anyways

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you SEEN the starting 2B's in the NL?

There’s a good chance he wouldn’t make it through waivers, so a team very possibly would throw a mediocre prospect or something the team’s way to make sure it doesn’t get to that.

It’s better than nothing.

by vfn on Apr 28, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

It’s better than nothing. If the Rangers DFA Arias, they should try to get something for him. I just don’t think it will be anything better than a Hamburger.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever happened to him, anyway?

Is he still in the org?

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think he gets Falcon'd after the draft?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

He is in the back of the BAK pen.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

I’d be nervous if I was struggling in a Ranger farm pen somewhere right now. The thing that helps the BAK guys some is that Lueke ain’t goin’ back to BAK, he’s going to FRS if he gets bumped up. That’s one less threat to their job.

by shroomer on Apr 28, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say more of a MaxRam type.

Good skills but unpolished, or a good bat without a position.

Arias, even though he’s not great, might be a better than average starting 2B in the NL (but that’s not saying much).

by vfn on Apr 28, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hammmmmmmmburger

Man I love this bit

"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
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by LSU Ranger on Apr 29, 2010 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Friday, supposedly

And if they were to drop Garko, how are they going to get both Arias and Blanco playing time?

Your bench would be Arias, Blanco, Gentry, and Max.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer dropping Arias.

Notice that Blanco went in for him tonight as a defensive replacement. I prefer a UIF that has a good glove and arm.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I do too

But it is pretty close to a toss up

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

but when Kinsler is back, who would blanco bump at the end of a game … if someone goes down with an injury he comes back up … give me the better bat and speed for the basepaths

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speed

I don’t think Arias is that much better of a baserunner than Blanco.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

just wondering why you would

rather have Blanco over Arias? Arias has played really good this year but it doesn’t seem to matter to most on here, maybe he is starting to live up to his potential

by blueballlefty on Apr 29, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blanco is a plus defender at SS, 3B and 2B

Arias is limited to playing a mediocre 2B.

We can’t forfeit our backup infielder, and we still need a backup 1B. Arias simply has no place on the roster once Kinsler comes back.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 29, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Arias has a 722 OPS

And has been mediocre defensively at 2B. He apparently can’t play SS or 3B, so if he sticks instead of Blanco, we have no backup at SS or 3B.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 29, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think

Arias has been about as good as he ever will be, and he isn’t that good. He will never be able to sustain his current batting average, and he still only is carrying a 722 OPS. He can’t play SS or 3B due to his weak arm.

If there ever was a chance to trade him, and maybe get something, like a AAAA catcher, or maybe even a backup catcher, now is the time.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 29, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

BALLGAME!

I can go to bed happy

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Apr 28, 2010 10:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Harden

walking between rain drops

by SteveP on Apr 28, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Man

Who needs losses with wins like that?

Ugh.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed. Just be happy they won.

You are getting more like LBrooks every day.

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn. That right there folks is an Ultra-Slam.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw those

Jaw-dropping. Was actually DLing them off another site during the game.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I must be in the miniority here,

but I really don’t think she’s all that cute. At least on that site that ol’ Jim just posted.

by lost in space on Apr 28, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I can't account for personal taste

But I think you’re nuts.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear ya,

the pics on that site must not have told it all.

by lost in space on Apr 28, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Neffy

just not that good?

by oc on Apr 28, 2010 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Scary thought

But, much less impossible than we thought two weeks ago.

SSS, though.

Mostly because it makes me feel better, though…

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's young

in a role he has never had before. He needs more refinement.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

he has a pretty good curve and change

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the risk of sounding like Joe Morgan... they've been pretty inconsistent though.

Especially the curve, which seems to go all over the place.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

the scouting report is probably

to sit on the FB because he is inconsistent with his secondary pitches. he needs to make adjustments. Can he do it in the MLs?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers starters...

are developed by being regulated to the bullpen and having to beg their way into the starting rotation now, duh.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the CJ Wilson track is very lonely

and draws the ire of lots of fans along the way

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty where should I go to collect?

Second thought let’s just let it ride all the way to the playoffs.

In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I missed the game.

How in the world did Harden combine 6 IP, 5 BB and only 87 pitches? Seems like a weird formula.

by shroomer on Apr 28, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep.

He got pretty lucky. Still not locating his pitches well at all. I’m about ready to see a DL trip or something. The guy is all kinds of off. When he was throwing strikes he looked good. Inducing weak contact for the most part, got a couple of Ks. Problem is he wasn’t finding the strike zone on a consistent basis.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is also true.

But he was still able to get people out with it when he was able to keep the ball in the zone. Either way, he’s off.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

but

it was step in the right direction … ate some innings, made some more pitches then he has the last few starts … baby steps

Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!

by giantbenmav on Apr 28, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim Lincecum

He is one pitcher that has 90-92 fastball and is dominant go’s to show you that you don’t have to have a overpowering fastball to get people out.

by kinslerFTW on Apr 28, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

go's ?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 28, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assume ground outs?

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 28, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking goes.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Juan Pierre

2 GIDP
1 Caught Stealing
1 Groundout to end the game

1 man, 6 outs

by MikeEl on Apr 28, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

-195 WPA

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Sox offense is seriously bad.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

This game's box score reads...

exactly like if you ran a simulation of how this game would transpire before the game was played.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah he got picked off

but he also had some great defensive plays tonight

by steel home on Apr 28, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Fun with Postgame Rangers Facebook Commentary!

Today’s first entry starts off the Rangers thread!

Chris RAANGERS SUCK!!!YES THEY STILL SUCK!!!!

[Ed. note- I think I copied all the exclamation marks… not one hundred per cent sure, though.]

Chris GO YANKEES YANKEES NUMER 1 ,27 CHAMPIONSHIPS

How much sense does this make? Answer: A lot. A lot of a lot.

Lynn Chris must be a White Sox fan

And Lynn here read good? No! Bad read do!

Will I always have come backs, haha unlike some people chris i’m not band wagon fan.

I wouldn’t be posting that on FB- I mean, that’s stuff you keep between you and your doctor, but, you know, that’s just me.

Ryan No idea about Chris… but he has a New Yorkers nose. BIG OL’ HONKER THERE! Way to go Ranger

… Do go on. And by go on, I mean make the anti-semitism more anti-semitic.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait.

I’ve always thought of New Yorkers as having big noses, but I didn’t realize that’s a Jewish thing.

by philkid3 on Apr 29, 2010 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've never heard that

But I do know there’s a large Jewish population in New York, and the Jewish stereotype includes a large nose, so I put two and two together and got verclempt.

So, Ryan, this might be an apology to you. You may be a fine American and a good example for schoolchildren everywhere. I’m sure you’re a firefighter or plant a lot of trees or something.

Or you’re a dopey anti-semite. I don’t know.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 29, 2010 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

But wait, there's more!

The FB MLB Rangers feed includes updates when a certain Newberg purs his MLB.com column up.

And out come the wolves that have frontal lobe deficiencies;

KirbyBring back Blalock

277 OBP.

Enrique amen to that Kirby..they are dumbshits for letting our most clutch hitter go

277 OBP!

Randall when they get really good the Rangers have always let them get away……

277! OBP!

Enrique Blalock was a beast..i do like Smoak though

277!! OBP!!!

Marky Tettleton Did someone really type Blalock and clutch in the same sentence? Good joke. I literally laughed out loud.

277!!!…

..wait…

what the hell is that last guy doing commenting on these Facebook feeds?

(Fun fact: I did change his name to be a funny clip on ‘Micky Tettleton’. I’m such a pill.)

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 29, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers were also 10-11 at this point last year...

They then went 12-3 in their next 15 games.

The Rangers in 2008 were 7-14 at this point in the season and then went 9-6 in their next 15 games and got back to .500 by May 17th at 22-22.

So, while Ron Washington lead teams appear to have a pattern of stumbling out of the gates in the first 20 or so games, this appears to be the point where the teams have picked it up and started to claw their way out of the hole.

Let’s hope that’s the trend continues as the Rangers have a bunch of games against the AL West and a soft schedule altogether the next couple of months so it would be nice if they could get themselves out to a lead.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 28, 2010 10:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Dit-ka is going to take over the manager's spot

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The negative 1

comes when we appeal that Borbon play at home plate and are awarded the win.

by MikeEl on Apr 28, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

couldn't a manager go argue and play

a game under appeal? can they still do that and what is that process? I remember Mr. Johnny Oates doing that one time

by blueballlefty on Apr 28, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

you have to say you’re playing the rest of the game under protest right then, though.

by MikeEl on Apr 29, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

so i wonder why wash didn't do that the other night

on the borbon play? or is that a play you can even contest

by blueballlefty on Apr 29, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't protest that play

Well, you could, but it wouldn’t do any good.

You can protest in a situation where an umpire gets a rule wrong, like the Pine Tar game, not a situation where they just get a call wrong.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 29, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok thanks

i new you could protest but just wasn’t exactly sure what the reasons had to be.

by blueballlefty on Apr 29, 2010 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo

you cant really protest a judgment call…only rule interpretations or something of that sort

Fuck Mike Estabrook

by Horns130 on Apr 29, 2010 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling we're gonna get swept in Seattle this weekend

Lee, Felix, and Cy Fister…

After that though, the upcoming schedule looks rather soft.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

there is no other moment where I've read a post of yours

and wanted to slap the shit out of you any more than I do right now.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Apr 29, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers have...

1 more against Chicago, 3 @ Seattle, 3 @ Oakland, 4 at home against Kansas City, 3 at home against Oakland, and a series @ Toronto. The first game of the Blue Jay series will represent the last game of the next 15 games.

I’d say 10-5 is what you have to hope for, and it is realistic. Anything above that would be awesome, anything below would be disappointing.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 28, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

thing is

you never really know how the Rangers are going to play in SEA and OAK. They could easily go 7-8 over the next 15 games.

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

Milton is actually a double agent working for us.

by MikeEl on Apr 28, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

and 30 other teams

seems like he always hates where he’s at

by blueballlefty on Apr 29, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like your positive thinking

And agree that the Rangers will improve significantly as the year progresses. When will it start, though, I have no idea.

by Mark from OC on Apr 28, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quit being the anti-LSJ.

: )

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 28, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis

Maybe it’s just me, but I’ll take too aggressive over too passive.

I believe the popular phrase is “Smoak ’em if you got ’em.”

by rlb02a on Apr 28, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes he did.

VERY solid. Just missed putting one in the upper deck. Foul by about 15 feet.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hit a no doubter...

Foul. Then struck out looking.

Good swing though

by lamron on Apr 28, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta be specific with the Mikes around here

It was Mike9 From Outer Space

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 28, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Nein

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Men on 1st and 3rd,

how many of us would have been worried with A. Jones coming up to bat?

by lost in space on Apr 28, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

*raises hand*

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 28, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did everyone see Marlon Byrd's catch today?

Only two words come to mind to describe it…..

HOLY SHIT!!!!

"Winning isn't everything, but losing sucks!"

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Apr 28, 2010 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice Play Byrd!

Don’t ever let me catch you doing it again!

by MikeEl on Apr 28, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPVSmExWm64

there ya go

"Winning isn't everything, but losing sucks!"

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Apr 28, 2010 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

try again

put the link in the body not title

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

go rangemen

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Apr 28, 2010 11:21 PM CDT reply actions  

That's pretty funny.
An authentic Rebook alternate orange Denver Broncos #6 jersey with Tim Tebow nameplate. This is a must have for Broncos fans, Tim Tebow fans and fans of Jesus, too.

It will be even funnier if somebody actually shells out $100 for it.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Apr 29, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Marteen and Kinsler --- Go Rangers!

I went to Frisco and saw Marteen pitch tonight. He wasn’t at his sharpest and perhaps got squeezed a couple times. At one point he walked off the mound thinking he had strike 3 to end an inning, but the ump called it a ball. Hitters were making good contact against him for the most part, especially in the last few innings. He gave up a HR that was largely helped out by the wind.

Kinsler looked good. He got 2 base hits of the line drive variety. Kinsler stole 1 base in the game, but seemed to get up awkwardly, but it didn’t seem to hinder him running. He went to a full run and had to stop abruptly a couple times, and it looked like his legs (ankle) handled that quite well. On defense he just missed a diving play, but made another nice play up the middle showing he’s still got his range. Overall he looked good.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 28, 2010 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

wrong thread

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 28, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

the last couple innings they were

making good contact, most definitely. He was fortunate a couple line drives were hit right at somebody, and 1 sharp grounder to 3B was turned into a DP to get him out of further trouble.

I don’t know that the HR would have been a HR without the 25 mph winds blowing to LF.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 29, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

my roommate saw Martin last week

and said, “unimpressed.”

I promptly told him to shut his whore mouth.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Apr 29, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

very good

yeah, a friend of mine was there with me, and I had to explain that we’re catching the best LH prospect in the minor leagues (one of them) on a bad night.

the problem with many people that are unimpressed, they usually only point to the radar gun where he’s hitting 91 or 92, and don’t understand the quality of his secondary pitches.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Apr 29, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nick Johnson has a 20 BB and 20 K already

And hitting .143

"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League

by LSU Ranger on Apr 29, 2010 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Johnson

.617 OPS to go with that .143 average, and he’s already having back problems!

And our buddy Troy Glaus? .608 OPS.

"He's not coming back. That chick was like, the Pele of anal."

-- Sterling Archer

by RCCook on Apr 29, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

He can hit great

as long as he is at RBiA.

RBiA .489 /.540 /.711
Road .194 /.257 /.226

They can probably save on meals and hotel rooms and just not take him on road trips.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 29, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's pretty hard for a win to be that frustrating.

I didn’t like very much of what I saw, but it’s better to hate what you see and win than like what you see and lose. I think. . .

And it’s just one game. Kill them tomorrow.

by philkid3 on Apr 29, 2010 2:53 AM CDT reply actions  

except NL voters can't vote for a DH

good foresight there by MLB

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 29, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not entirely true

There’s plenty of DH’s in the NL, the retarded rulebook just makes them stand on the field during innings.

We're like soccer hooligans... except, like the Rangers, we can’t even get that right. We beat each other up instead of the other side. - AJM

by LSJ on Apr 29, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know what I meant

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 29, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

so I’m walking to class at Baylor and see this guy in a Frisco Rougriders tshirt. Looked cool, as well as I’ve never seen someone supporting that team here

by Mike E on Apr 29, 2010 8:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Good

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Apr 29, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

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