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Jarrod Saltalamacchia to the disabled list

T.R. Sullivan says the Rangers have put Jarrod Saltalamacchia on the disabled list, and have purchased the contract of Matt Treanor from Oklahoma.

I'm pretty sure there will need to be a 40 man roster move to get Treanor on the 40 man (a necessary prerequisite to putting him on the 25 man roster).

This is...discouraging, to say the least.

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Our game one hero

already down. Sigh… this could be a long season.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Apr 8, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Brightside: Misty May backside pics in GDTs

Downside: Misty May frontside pics in GDTs.

Also, further catcher suckiness

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Correct...

…on all three points.

I have no objection to man walking on the moon.

by Chad Crudup on Apr 8, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aye

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oi!

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Apr 8, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just put yer beer goggles on when entering the GDT

and she’ll look okay if you avoid direct lighting.

I don’t think it’s that tragic re Salty. My expectations for him are shall we say….managed – I don’t think he’s very good.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 8, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

she’s going to be walking around the ballpark in a speedo, but you never know…

by ncrangerfan on Apr 8, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gee...

who coulda seen this comin’?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 8, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

One thing I don't get

did this happen last night because of his AB? Or was he just batting with a stiff back?

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
@BryanDolgin Saltalamacchia got hurt Monday, told team after last night’s game. DL. Matt Treanor is up from AAA. Teagarden is the starter

.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 8, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

right

I wonder if he got hurt in the celebration.

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would be terrible

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would be the Rangers for you

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm beginning to think

a trade for a catcher is likely later this year. Bengie Molina when Posey is ready?

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Doesn't Benji carry a $ 6 million price tag?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 8, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

$4.5 M this year

and I’m going to go out on a limb and say that after the ownership deal has finalized they can afford $2+ million in a mid-season trade.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

If getting rid of Hicks

means a return to paying 2 or 3 million to crappy players like Bengie Molina, then I don’t want it.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Apr 8, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the alternative

is a catching combo with a .660 OPS than Molina looks like a decent alternative. He was a hell of a lot better than either of those guys the last couple years.

All of this is quite premature, of course. I wouldn’t make a move if I were them until July, giving both catchers time to show something.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Time for Teagarden to step up.

Here’s the window. Time to shine.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Teagarden couldn't shine

with a power buffer and three cans of Turtle Wax.

It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard.
- Nolan Ryan

by Flynnyrd on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Give me that crappy (healthy) Molina

over mendoza TT and DL Salty anyday. Our catchers are so far behind Molina it isn’t even funny. Our catchers suck, get over it.

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann

by R Derff on Apr 8, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh My God!

I can’t believe we are actually considering getting an offensive player from SF. What a world!

by JShoe on Apr 8, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possible silver lining

Corresponding 40 move involves Arias?

by rlb02a on Apr 8, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Probably not

Since Kinsler isn’t back yet.

by casew on Apr 8, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially if Kinsler is looking to be out longer than initially diagnosed

Maybe they bite the bullet and 60 Poveda?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep most likely

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

what else could it be?

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Problems with his surgery or whatever they were talking about this spring.

Maybe further arm issues that the TOS didn’t solve? It’s a very odd question to ask a lawyer who has no connection to the team what the medicial possibilities are for a possible injury to a player. In short: I don’t fucking no, dude. It just sounds fishy.

by FuturePants on Apr 8, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I was wondering if you meant medical issue or some sort of disciplinary thing or some sort of roster evaluation.

if it is another medical issue, I don’t see why they would hide the ball

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is medical...

….and my guess is they have no clue why he is in pain/sucking.

It could be a “trip to the DL” like we did with Chan Ho Park for several months in his last season here. Chan Ho then did like 10 “rehab starts” in AAA. If Salty can’t throw the ball to the pitcher, then he is a liability.

by FuturePants on Apr 8, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, conspiracy theory much?

And did we land on the moon, or not?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

So you think Chan Ho Park was actually hurt that entire time and literally needed two months’ worth of rehab starts? For real, dude?

by FuturePants on Apr 8, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be dumb

You are trying to equate Salty’s situation with Chan’s, that is the conspiracy theory part.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's the point I'm trying to make though

CHP was an issue where they thought he was fucked in the head and wanted to get him some minor league development time

Are you saying the same thing about Salty? It seems odd that they came to that conclusion after the 2 games he just played

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember when Hank Blalock sat out 2 games because he was "sick."?

Blalock came out and said he wasn’t sick and it was his shoulder acting up again.

This shit has happened before with this org.

by TooLegitToQuit on Apr 8, 2010 11:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sitting out 2 games and being put on the DL are two way different things

The team not being honest about why a guy is sitting out a couple games isn’t a big deal. But to lie about an injury to DL a player could lead to trouble for a franchise

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK

Did he go on the DL for being sick or for a shoulder injury?

The team could have been deceiving when he was only missing a couple games but once they had to sit him down for an extended period of time they had to be more truthful

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

The "It's Time" season....

is starting out as a season of disaster. Even crappy Ranger teams didn’t have this much going wrong at once.

CHUCK NORRIS FEARS IAN KINSLER

by Ryan1700 on Apr 8, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

With no signs of future excitement on the horizon

We’ve got Perez, Scheppers, Smoak, and many more. They’ve got…Bud Norris and Jason Castro?

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 8, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Castro...

Either the Stros were right and a lot of other teams were wrong, or they got lucky. Drafting for need like that is risky, so I’m going with lucky.

Anyway, sure wish we had a Castro in our system right now.

by bhudson on Apr 8, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

At the time, KG and the other draft guys said Castro was a nice player who most teams would like to have

It was just an overdraft at the slot. And with Smoak on the board, it was just dumb.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 8, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really think

that cutting yourself my help with the anxiety of it all.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Apr 8, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Winner!

lol

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
Even crappy Ranger teams didn’t have this much going wrong at once.

Yes, they did.

/Mike E

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 8, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

See everything after 2006 and before the 2007 season plus the 23-42 start to the season.

One of the most hopeless times to ever be a fan of This Thing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poveda

But that burns an option and cash we might not have

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah, yes

I think we can afford that little bit.

by octoberty on Apr 8, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, let's be honest, it's not a giant cash outlay in the grand scheme

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 8, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't burn an option

It actually saves it since technically hes part of the ML team the entire season. if he isn’t 60’d then next year will be his last option year while hes rehabbing from TJ surgery. 60ing him will give him a full year of service time.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the option for this year has already been burned...

…Lucas lists him as on Frisco’s DL not the big club’s. I’m pretty sure he had to be optioned to AA in order to be on Frisco’s DL (which of course means he’s earning a minor league salary at the moment).

I have no objection to man walking on the moon.

by Chad Crudup on Apr 8, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't spent enough time in the minors for it to definitively be burned yet

If you spend less than 20 days in the minors I believe you don’t burn an option for that year. I believe that time doesn’t start until games actually begin so even though he was optioned during spring training he hasn’t actually spent a day in the minors until games start tonight. I could be wrong on that part but I think its right.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he'll clearly burn an option by remaining on that DL

He’s not coming off the minor league DL in under 20 days.

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 8, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Madrigal?

Seems like an obvious choice to put on the 60 day DL.

Vladimir Guererro - 2010 AL MVP
C.J. Wilson - 2010 AL Cy Young
Neftali Feliz - 2011 Rolaids Relief Man Award

by RangerMad on Apr 8, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe, after all the catching issues for the last couple of years...

…that Taylor effing Teagarden is our starting catcher. Good lord does he suck.

by FuturePants on Apr 8, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

not really any worse than

salty

"He do what he do" - Ron Washington

by dustinvandeman on Apr 8, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sadly true.

Salty has done little to distance himself from a pretty bad hitter in Teagarden.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Apr 8, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

And it's also very frustrating...

….that this whole time, it’s essentially been “If just one of you would show us something at all, you could have the starting job!” Nobody has stepped up. Only steps down. Frustrating steps down into shittiness.

by FuturePants on Apr 8, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Shawn Bradley career path

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep,

if we don’t see something from one of them, I would hope we’d make a FA pickup for a veteran mediocrity. Sadly, veteran mediocrity is better than we have seen from that position since Barajas left.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Apr 8, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Laird was probably that

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

All Laird does is get into shouting matches with the pitching staff in the dugout.

Dude seems like a real prick and a half. He does suck less than Salty/Teagarden black hole of suck, though.

by FuturePants on Apr 8, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was less than that

Not as much less as Salty or Tea, but still less than that.

Laird had less power than Barajas, and completely sucked ass at framing pitches. My guess is he cost the pitching staff Ks and handed them some BBs.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Apr 8, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

framing pitches?

that’s not the Cahill I’ve come to hate.

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

taylor teagarden used to be one of the reasons we could tout catching depth

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

You make me sad

Just don’t tell me Buchholz is pitching for the Sox tonight

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

he can throw to second at least

"Josey drives to games???
I always assumed he rides in on his high horse"
jam0152

Martin Perez, "Mucho queso"

by RangersSD on Apr 8, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just..........awesome.

crap.

It's Time.....for something!!

by b.pate on Apr 8, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

So Murphy and Garko in

and the general craptastic offense – I don’t even know if I am looking forward to the game.

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I actually approve of Garko in

with a lefty on the mound, even if he is in general a dude who got cut by the Mariners a week and a half ago.

Murphy vs lefties? Vomit on the toaster oven.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

Garko is probably fine, but I like watching CD and I’m hoping that he does well this season. Same with Hamilton

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Garko does well today

will he get the start against the Seattle lefty on Friday?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 8, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most likely not

But it’s not impossible they do something crazy like throw Hams in CF, Vlad/Nellie in the corners (although I don’t know that either of them can play left), and split Gonnie and CD in the 1B/DH slots.

Most likely not, though. And I’m fine with that, right now. We still don’t have a strong enough sample saying that CD positively can’t hit lefties.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know about that re Davis v LH pitchers

228 plate appearances and a .680 OPS.

Given our offensive desperation….if Garko does well tonight they need to play him on Friday…and maybe that means an OF of Vlad, Josh and Cruz with Tiny E hitting lead-off.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 8, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

228 PA's still is a pretty small sample size for a 23 year old dude

But, we all know how you feel, so let’s leave that one alone.

I don’t know if you can go into desperation mode after two games (or in your hypothetical, a third that is yet to be played featuring 2.5 backups and a dude in his backwards platoon).

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Davis vs lefties

hit .279/.323/.593 in 2008. let the healing begin.

You sit Davis vs 1 lefty to give him a day off. you don’t sit him against 3 lefties in a row. You have to show him that he’s your every day first baseman until he’s not. That’s leadership, that’s confidence in your players. When you have a guy you are expecting to be a major contributor to the team for a long time, you don’t jerk him around. (otoh, when you have a guy you KNOW is gone after the end of the year, has whined and moaned around the team for 3 years, all while cashing a big fat payday contract and not done shit during it, then no one gives a fuck if you jerk him in and out of the lineup, right mr Blalock?)

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Apr 8, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Memo to iblum

This isn’t 2008.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Apr 8, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's ok to panic Ronh but please please..

do not get the mirror out and cut yourself a line, that’s the last thing we need!

Now performing in the Mark Holtz room, Elvis sings you ain't nothing but a groundball.

by BigGuns on Apr 8, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

My new stance on catching prospects

Sell high, they all suck. No bitterness here.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I think sell high

is no longer an option.

I think the word is out.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Apr 8, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

he means in the future

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

though I really don’t feel that way. I think hoarding them to see who pans out like they do with pitchers is probably a better long term strategy. It’s up to Teagarden now to seize the oppo, crossing my thumbs.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

you gotta think

we just had really bad luck with the catchers we did hoard. Maybe Teagarden is entirely our fault but those other guys were either highly touted by lots of other people at one time or another.

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It’s a good example of how unpredictable catchers (and prospects in general are) and that even when players are highly regarded you just don’t know. And it’s still too early to completely write off any of the three, but it’s been awfully bumpy thus far and Ramirez doesn’t look like a catcher defense-wise.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tossing Ramirez out there

Should we read anything into the fact that Treanor’s getting the call (and needing to ax someone from the 40)?

Or is it just a nod to the vet who took the ride down to AAA when he could have walked?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ramirez needs to play every day

not come up and sit on the bench. That’s what I read into it.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which I understand, and i can see the argument coming form that vantage point

I would respond by saying Is two weeks of sporadic play with Max worth having to burn an option and a little extra cash on Poveda, or chopping someone else off the 40?

Then I’d probably be fired for being a pain in the ass, and have to collect unemployment checks.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

They lose control of Max this winter

They need to let him play and figure out if he is worth adding to the 25 for next season.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Concur

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 8, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll note this again

60ing Poveda actually saves an option since he would technically be on the ML team the entire season and not optioned to the minors.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've already disputed you on this but what the heck I'll do it again...

…Poveda is listed as being on the Frisco DL. Option already used this year.

I have no objection to man walking on the moon.

by Chad Crudup on Apr 8, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

See above

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm, develop catchers as trade bait, until one blows your socks off

If you get that, keep him. If not, just pay for a star catcher.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a good plan, IMHO

even “star” catchers can be roller coasters. Russ Martin was outhit by Bengie Molina last year. Chris Snyder looked pretty solid a couple years ago and earned an extension, then fell off a cliff. Catchers are mysterious and the ones you can count on year to year are few and far between.

We were spoiled by Sundberg and Rodriguez.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 8, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

True and true.

Sigh…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Apr 8, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if it's linked to how many games they catch the previous year.

For example I’m expecting Suzuki to fall off a cliff in the next two seasons as he’s being run into the ground – we don’t even have a backup catcher on the 25 man roster.

Martin runs (ran? I’ve not seen him play recently) pretty well for a catcher, but Kendall showed that being behind the plate takes away your legs eventually. On the other hand Molina’s never been fast.

Perhaps we should consult Posada and ask him how he’s managed to stay so good for so long.

He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!

by OldhamA on Apr 8, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it's definitely relevant

Unless you have Pudge you’re probably smart to limit your starting catcher’s innings behind the plate. I can’t see any wisdom in starting your catcher more than about 135-140 games no matter how awesome they are.

Martin played 155 freakin’ games in 2008. That’s just nuts. Even Pudge never started that many. In 1996 Pudge peaked at 143 games at catcher, with 6 more as a DH. Martin started 145 at C in 2008, and 10 as an effin’ 3B. Jesus, you just do not treat valuable assets that way.

Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.

by t ball on Apr 9, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

We just have to wait for Columbian Jesus

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 8, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

He oughta be ready by June, right?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Apr 8, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

At the very latest

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Manny Pina is going to be a star

We need to not always make hard work out of sex- Rick Carlisle.

by sprite on Apr 8, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dayton Moore hopes so

"Dying ain't hard. It’s living in the wake of a thorough public humiliation that’s hard.--JDT217

by WestTxAg06 on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

ehh not a good thing to see one of your players go on the DL

but if i had to pick one person to go on the DL out of the regulars and the pitchers (with the exception of like blanco or arias who are only there until kinsler gets back) it would probably be one of the two catches or chris ray

"He do what he do" - Ron Washington

by dustinvandeman on Apr 8, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Chris Ray

why has he done to deserve so much enmity?

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont hate the guy

I just dont think he is very good and could easily be replaced if he had to go on the DL

"He do what he do" - Ron Washington

by dustinvandeman on Apr 8, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

who would have guessed that Saltalamacchia would have turned out to be perhaps the worst player from the Teixeira trade.

by alon91 on Apr 8, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

He's hurt right now too

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 8, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

TOS

is absolute bullshit. I’m just as frustrated that the team let him play winter ball WAY earlier than the doctors recommend. What the hell happened there?

I’m still waving my “2010: Salty’s breakout year” pennant, but I’m on the verge of shamefully resigning hope.

by ncrangerfan on Apr 8, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

x
I’m just as frustrated that the team let him play winter ball WAY earlier than the doctors recommend. What the hell happened there?

From what I understand, the team wanted him to play winter ball, and was irritated he cut his stint there short.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 8, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but after the injury the doctor was dumbfounded that he was playing so soon after surgery. IIRC, he was playing after 2 weeks when he should have waited 2 months. How the hell does that happen?

by ncrangerfan on Apr 8, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

and

the scar tissue/soreness crap has been a major issue ever since. I just don’t understand how a team that has the best medical resources money can buy would make such a silly mistake.

by ncrangerfan on Apr 8, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard that after his walk off hit

Someone tried to give him a high five, but when their hand wasn’t exactly where he guessed it would be he swung and missed badly and strained his oblique.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

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by Drew062682 on Apr 8, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

The problem with Teagarden is...

that the pitcher is throwing his third pitch before Teagarden ever gets finished swinging at the first one.

by casew on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Rob Neyer linked Lewin's post this morning...
  • Strange New World, Part 2: Josh Lewin makes a guest blog appearance to respond to petty criticism by blog commenters.

by octoberty on Apr 8, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

that's kind of unfair

makes it seem like he was in a shouting match with people here.

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I still have a hard time finding anything petty in what was said.

Other then a few passing comments in GDT, he gets quite the love here. WTF?

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 8, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah i agree with that

although i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t remember anything bad being said about him

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at Neyer up in his ivory tower

petty criticism? I have one for you Rob.

Read the GDT before judging what Lewin responded to.

by Josh Lile on Apr 8, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I also have no problem pointing out

that Neyer is the same guy that made a fake account to respond to criticisms about his book on Amazon.com

Glass houses, Neyer. Glass houses

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really? When was this?

How was it found out that it was him?

by octoberty on Apr 8, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinsler will not make the road trip.

Is it a safe assumption to say MaxRam won’t be a catcher ever again? If it were’nt for those wrist, I’d have a little more faith in him.

Now where’s that shovel? I gotta get an early start to digging the Rangers grave so I can get to the horse track tomorrow. FML.

by IrishP1 on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I figured this would've been cut-and-pasted into this thread by now, but I haven't seen it.

From Evan Grant:

[Saltalamacchia] needs to mature," Washington said. "He has put us in a bad situation. What if he had walked last night and we tied the game? Was he going to tell me then that he couldn’t catch. I don’t care how badly he wants to play, you can’t just think about yourself. He was supposed to be healthy when we left spring training. That’s what he told us. I’m not disappointed in him for being hurt; that happens. I’m disappointed in how he has handled it.

Great.

by Josh Garoon on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Luis Mendoza flashbacks

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 8, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty effed up there.

Sounds like the younglings don’t know how to grow up.

Let’s hope CJ doesn’t do anything stupid like that today.

by IrishP1 on Apr 8, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

CJ is most likely older than you

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I was thinking the same thing though. it’s a fairly legitimate complaint, though I don’t know the point of bringing it up now.

This is actually way worse than Mendoza pitching hurt – we had no backup catcher. we would have been effed.

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Garko

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 8, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

just thought of that. still – not ideal

""It was a ball, dude," Davis said. "I don’t swing at balls anymore." -CD

by ab03 on Apr 8, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

LL was begging to have Garko back last night when Wak made a late inning move

that had them without a backup catcher. They were pretty hamstrung. They were not a happy camp last night.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Apr 8, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty you have become the nightmare on Ballpark Way...

Tea it’s time for you to man up and take the lead or be designated to a life of back-up catcher duties.

Now performing in the Mark Holtz room, Elvis sings you ain't nothing but a groundball.

by BigGuns on Apr 8, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

PUDGE!!!

Please come back…

"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball." - Terence Mann

by R Derff on Apr 8, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Rumor has it

that all of Salty’s back/shoulder/rib problems are all re-aggravations of an old high school injury derived from a fall from atop a teachers desk.

by aroundthehorn on Apr 8, 2010 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

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