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LSB Education survey

 

This stems from the a question brought up in one of the bankruptcy threads about how many lawyers we have on here. I think the LSB community has a broad base of various levels of education and specializations. Answer truthfully and if you are still working towards a degree feel free to mention it in the comments...

Star-divide

I would expect that there will probably be a much higher average education level on LSB than you will find the overall state and country breakdowns.

Poll
What is the highest level of education you have completed?
HS/GED
35 votes
Bachelors
211 votes
Masters
96 votes
Ph.D
13 votes
JD
39 votes
MD
9 votes
Other
15 votes

418 votes | Poll has closed

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BBA Decision Science, almost 2/3 the way done

with an MBA in Decision Technologies and am considering starting on my Ph. D.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

What's a JD?

"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League

by LSU Ranger on May 25, 2010 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

If you have to ask

You don’t have one.

by LoneStarBallUser on May 25, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winner!

lol

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Masters, working on PhD

"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...

by 8legs2fangs on May 25, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Ph.D in what?

always curious to see how many different disciplines we have represented.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evolutionary Biology

"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...

by 8legs2fangs on May 25, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spiders freak me out, but evolutionary biology is fun, especially the quantitative side.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on May 25, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Answered Bachelor

…but I’m currently halfway through med school.

by TRanger on May 25, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

A downtown FW company

that is not long for this world.

by bhudson on May 25, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chesapeake eh?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on May 26, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

you don't know Eric or Steve Palko, do you?

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he doesn't...

I do, Eric is everywhere.

"Support the Dutch Oven"

by RangerFloppy on Jun 7, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhh...An Exxon man

I am a landman at Jetta Operating Co. (also downtown fw), my brother is an engineer with Halliburton

"Support the Dutch Oven"

by RangerFloppy on Jun 7, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm working on my high school diploma

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote

by Schultzy on May 25, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

any ideas about college yet?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m sorta waiting to hear for some college coaches about tennis scholarships but if not I’ll be ok. My grades are good and stuff. I’m looking at TCU, Wofford, Wake Forest, and Davidson if tennis falls through.

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote

by Schultzy on May 25, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

TCU

…used to have a good team. Long ago I had a USTA rank of like 400 and something and a friend of mine was playing for the TCU team. I could only get points off serves…if he managed to return I was dead in the water, haha. And he admitted that he wasn’t even one of their better players. That was a long time ago, though.

I think UT has a good tennis outfit, too.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

USTA rank

That was Texas…not nationally. Don’t want to mislead people into thinking I used to be a tennis god or anything.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can't play there.

I might be able to walk on or be a practice player

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote

by Schultzy on May 25, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any advice?

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote

by Schultzy on May 25, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on what you want to do major wise

I played lacrosse in college the first time through, so I might be biased about the some of the reasoning behind playing sports in college. I will tell you this though, if you truly love tennis, look and see if any of the schools you mentioned accept walk ons or have a tennis club team.

As far as the schools you have down, I would tell you to do your diligence in the overall quality of education you want and how valuable th degree is after you come out.

If you got questions you can email me at
laxtonto@gmail.com

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks a lot man.

I will probably take you up on that. How hard was it playing a sport in college in regards to keeping up your grades.? Were the professors understanding?

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote

by Schultzy on May 25, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on what restrictions you have and how good that

athletic academic support staff is.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You played Lacrosse?

The 40 trumps all!
Mention my name at checkout to get 20% off at www.InflatableSexClowns.com!!!

by thedirkatron on May 25, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

LAX tonto…..

Kinda how I ended up destroying my knee and my shouler

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, now that you no longer play

are you ex-laxtonto?

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still play occasionally

heading to Houston this weekend to watch the national title weekend with a lot of guys I played with long ago. I will probably get kinda trashed and play in a pickup game I really shouldn’t and be really sore next week.

I recommend you guys catch a few games this weekend on ESPN and ESPN2

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still remember being shocked when I got shipped off to boarding school up North and found out they actually had a fucking Lacross team.

Someone explained the game to me and I laughed.

Actually seemed kind of okay once you get to watching it, cause of all the violence, but the idea of the little net-stick thing and running around tossing it to eachother still makes me giggle.

If I’d grown up in an area where it was big I bet I’d’ve played it, though.

Assuming it didn’t conflict with baseball and football and basketball.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boarding school, eh?

What acts of terrorism did you commit to get your angry ginger ass shipped off?

I’m guessing there was some Eastwoodian hate mail in there somewhere…

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did some shit... Mainly just stupid 14 year old shit.

Skipped school a bunch, mouthed off to my parents all the time (thanks for not murdering me, dad), told my 9th grade Spanish teacher to “Shut the fuck up” in the middle of class, etc….

Yah, lots of shit as opposed to some big thing like letter bombing a state senator or some shit.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you do all 4 years in boarding school

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 27, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Naw, 10-12.

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coach Terranus shoulda slapped you in the grill.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus fucking christ, dude... don't even joke about telling that guy to shit the fuck up. He will hunt you down and end you with his bare hands.

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a joke... your name is LAX tonto and you have LAX sticks in your profile image.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I

got a Player Hating degree… Does that count?

by icouldusesomebaseball on May 25, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

You have something against people with

Associates degrees?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on May 25, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey I almost have two of those

Can I add them together and make a bachelor’s?

"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League

by LSU Ranger on May 25, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dual Bachelors, working on Dual Masters (12/10 and 6/11 graduation dates), planning on law school

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

They won't look too kindly on felons.

So, you know, try not to murder me before you get accepted.

by brettgardner on May 25, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks man

I lost my cool on that. Unwarranted and immature. My apologies

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that took a lot of potential fun out of this subthread

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 26, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah sorry man

ha

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 26, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ooh, death threats? What'd'i miss???

The 40 trumps all!
Mention my name at checkout to get 20% off at www.InflatableSexClowns.com!!!

by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

no rapes or anything here...move along ha

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 26, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not so fast Sneaky Pete

Wha happen?

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have my Associates

Working on my Bachelors and then my Juris Doctor.

by Perfect Zero on May 25, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Two bachelors- BBA in Economics and BA in History- J.D. just a few days ago...

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Congratulations on the J.D.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Now about the job thing I’m supposed to be given upon graduation… Who do I talk to about that in the administration office?

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

where did you go to law school if you dont mind me asking?

I have a friend that graduated from Tech last spring, passed the bar, still cant find a job unfortunately.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody is finding jobs.

Lawyer is simply a profession that is just not in demand right now.

by FuturePants on May 25, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have an interview tomorrow (stress, nerves, stress)

Wish me luck, please!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

good luck man

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you both

Very kind of you.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eat a dick, Rodney.

I wouldn’t mention LSB in the interview.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF dude?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keed wid you!

I keed!

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agressive in the keeding tonight.

I figured, but didn’t know if I had pissed you off or something.

:)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't need no stinking luck

You da Rodney man mother fucker! The freakin’ Stay fucking Puff Marshmellow man.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 25, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Thanks dude.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

TY

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still doing the mortgage stuff?

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 25, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I do what I do.

How is your gig treating you?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm working with the SBA so I can do something else.

If that means anything.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 25, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, not slinging portfolios any more?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm still doing that.

Just, you know, it’s a bit of a beating.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 25, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understand.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

good luck!

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

TY sir.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your friend was in my class, then

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 25, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont know how big Tech law school is but

his name is Don Wilson.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way, small world!

Don and I were in the same section 1L year and hung out a fair amount. Good dude.

I played on a city league softball team he organized spring of our 1L year. He was a good ballplayer and apparently overestimated the talents of the rest of our team and put us in a city league that had teams that brought their own uniforms and everything. We got smoked so badly.

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

yeah DR (i went to HS and played college ball with him so thats what i know him by) and i are still really good friends. He is actually on one of my softball teams now.

Yeah he is a really good guy. That is funny about the softball league.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 26, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny story about his nickname

To start with, we all knew him as “Don,” then he told us that his friends all called him “DR” before. I think he wanted us to start calling him DR. Naturally, a couple of us asked what “DR” stood for and he said “Donald Ray.”

So rather than call him DR we just started calling him Donny Ray to aggravate him and never quit.

Tell him James Decker says what’s up.

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely will man

Yeah that is pretty funny. In college we used to say his full name (Donald Ray) to get him riled up in the middle of games.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

SMU Law

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm right there with ya...

It’s crazy.

As of right now 94% of the people who have voted have at least a bachelors. There are some insanely intelligent people here at LSB.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 25, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bachelors for me...just the one....sigh...

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 25, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

Who was the dude that years ago would do these quasi-doctor writeups about injuries and what they were? He was in med school IIRC…

by FuturePants on May 25, 2010 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I did a couple

But I am certainly not in med school… Grew up with two medical parents, and just a general interest in sports medicine and baseball injuries lead me to my knowledge (gained via reading tons of journal articles)

My mom used to make me read n.e. journal of medicine articles to bolster my reading abilities, were talking like 8th grade here… Now I do a lot of psych research (one of my degrees) so I check in on medical stuff as it comes out also….

But no, no med school for me… yet

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by FormerLSBUser on May 26, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure he's thinking of PM.

I don’t recall having written any quasi-doctor write-ups, mostly just typing in CAPS at people and telling them that their asses and elbows are different parts of their bodies.

by NoNameOnCard on May 27, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe so.

I was thinking of your Biomechanics writeups on your blog.

by jwiscarson on May 27, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

B.S. in Agribusiness from Texas A&M, J.D. from Texas Tech

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 25, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

X

Starting on my doctorate in clinical psychology in the fall. Maybe I can help Salty some day, maybe not…

"He's got one of those arms that could throw a marshmallow through a battleship."

- Anonymous Baseball Scout on Neftali Feliz

by theflip44 on May 25, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

can you start with working with Josey?

Everybody needs a case study to do at some point…..

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Lost cause, imho

"He's got one of those arms that could throw a marshmallow through a battleship."

- Anonymous Baseball Scout on Neftali Feliz

by theflip44 on May 25, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting thesis opportunity...

But I am not sure i want to work with any more delusional sociopaths.

"He's got one of those arms that could throw a marshmallow through a battleship."

- Anonymous Baseball Scout on Neftali Feliz

by theflip44 on May 25, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I have enough credits for an EE Bachelors and an IT Bachelors, but never completed either.

Maybe I should take up the offer of 1/2 tuition at SMU…

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 5:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Strange observation

Seems to be a very small number of the tech-head sort around here. Or maybe they just never mention it.

BS in Computer Information Systems, work as a software consultant.

by jthig32 on May 25, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

BSEE Here

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on May 25, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh

Dual Associates degree in Network Administration/Desktop Support from TSTC

"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League

by LSU Ranger on May 25, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got Computer Systems/Networking Technology from TSTC

Couple of Certifications from there as well….A+, Network+, and the coveted MOUS Cert, haha

by trav1102 on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea I got my A+ and Network+

Marshall for me though

"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League

by LSU Ranger on May 27, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm, me?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a "dick-head"

Not a tech head.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well played, sirrah.

lol

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I graduated with a BS in Computer Science.

I’m soon-to-be unemployed and moving across the country all in one fell swoop.

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Presumably to your new gig right?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still applying.

My job is a total support nightmare. I’m sure a lot of people think I’m insane for doing this (and they very well may be right), but the money is just flat out not worth it. I have an incredible amount of terrible IT stories, especially considering I’ve only worked here for 2.5 years.

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Got two masters

Dropped out of my phd program.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 25, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

quitter

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 25, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 26, 2010 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that happens a lot

A lot of people realize the PhD route isn’t for them.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on May 26, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm on the 20 year plan

Hopefully, I’ll have my BS by this time next year.

by LoneStarBallUser on May 25, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

good luck...

you can do it

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA in History

Thinking about getting a second Bachelors (IE a useful one) and/or a Masters starting in the Spring.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Lucky you. I may be joining you in the Spring.

However, I’ve already had one professor I asked for a Letter of Rec tell me I’d be better off working at McDonald’s than getting a MA or Ph.D in History. True story.

What are you in for? English, History, Philosophy, or something similar?

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah, the professor that was my primary advisor throughout grad school pretty much told me the same thing about going on for a Ph.D.

I have thought about going back, but it’s been 15 years since I got my MA, and there’s really only 4 good Ph.D. schools for Eastern European history outside of the Ivy League- UC Berkeley, Indiana, Boston College, and UT-Austin. Or at least that was the case when I was looking into them back in the mid-90s.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete."

-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 25, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you know Dr Davis and Dr. Powell?

What classes have you taken so far?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been about half and half on campus and online

Off the top of my head I know neither of those and as for classes off the top of my head, a finance, an accounting, regression analysis, org behavior, entrepreneurship, and possibly a stats class, can’t remember if stats was just a prereq class though.

by groundingout on May 25, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

All of us UNT grad students need to get together and watch some games

I got 2 classes this summer, but lets try and figure something out…

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ill buy you a few

I am looking at 3 to 4k in surplus this summer… got 2 additional schollies this summer that I wasn’t planning on

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could host a grill out/HDs Rangers game

With two pools to fall into. If anyone wants to be outside, but pretty shady though. I am in N Dallas.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I split the lone car with the wife... Maybe this summer though,,

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you get the job

we should celebrate.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 25, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This would be awesome times 2.

heh

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares...it's a party!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

last posted on the 20th

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's out enjoying himself.

Brian lived 4 rooms down from my as a freshman. He just completed his Masters focusing on baseball media.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good for him!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

BZA is a good dude

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 25, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be down for that when I move back to town in August....

…..in the middle of our division chase.

Currently out of state though.

by groundingout on May 25, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any specific area of History?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 25, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I focused most of my classes towards Post-Colonialism and the Middle East.

Israel/Palestine, Algeria/France etc.

I’m think I’m going to try to go to grad school and research baseball history, but tie it in with local or Texas history to make it doable.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting...

I could never get into recent Middle Eastern history.

Good luck with grad school. That area seems like it would be kinda tough to pull off.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 25, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Algeria is fascinating.

The rest is annoying. Blowhards get tiring.

Baseball is doable. I had one guy willing to be on my thesis committee. It’s all about how you present it from what I can tell. Probably won’t happen though. I’ll end up being a burnout with a MA or Ph.D in some useless area which won’t help me in the least.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true

UTA had two options for the history MA: take 30 course hours and write a thesis, or take 36 hours, and then do a day-long final exam which consisted of 3 essay questions and a 2-hour oral exam.

If you did the non-thesis option, you chose a “graduate committee” of 3 professors, each of whom assigned you one of the essay questions and reading material to prepare for both the written and oral exams. The best part of this was that not only did the professors allow you to help design your own questions, but the exam prep counted for the additional 6 credit hours required for the non-thesis option.

I think you can figure out which route I chose.

Incidentally, my 3 essay questions:

1. Write a detailed analysis on the criticisms of communism presented in the writings of Yugoslav dissident Milovan Djilas;

2. Write a detailed analysis on how modern Irish politics has been influenced by attempts to preserve the Gaelic language;

3. Write a detailed analysis on the sexual politics of the French Revolution as described in the works of the Marquis de Sade.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete."

-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 25, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good lord.

That sounds exhausting. I’m sure it helps that the profs allow your input though. I’d heard that for UNT you have a full oral exam even if you take the thesis. No essays though.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That exam was brutal- 4 hours for the written, 2 for the oral, with a 2-hour break in between. I took the prep course over the summer, so I had to cram everything into 9 weeks instead of the usual 12-13.

Having input into the questions definitely helped, especially since I’d written and presented a paper a few months prior on question #2. The research on the Marquis de Sade question was very interesting, to say the least.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete."

-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 25, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can imagine.

Sexual politics in the French Revolution seems like it would be a fascinating topic considering how large of a role women played in it at various points.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got a bachelor's in History

Went back to school to get a Master’s in Public Affairs. I considered getting a graduate degree in History, but I decided I should get a degree that would help my employment prospects, and I wasn’t sure I wanted to be an academic.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on May 26, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

BA in Andrus Love

Masters in WASH HATE!

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on May 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

x

BS in Biochemistry, BS in Biology
Working on an MD/PhD. PhD will be in Biochemistry (or maybe Structural Biology) most likely, but I’m not sure about the medical specialty yet. Probably something off of Internal Medicine, but I have a few years before making that decision.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 25, 2010 6:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Dude

That’s exactly my resume minus the MD part.

Writing my dissertation now. Good luck with everything.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 25, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh...

Who’s your PI? Are you at A&M’s bio/bio?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 25, 2010 11:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Doing the cancer research thing with Datta.

Yep, at A&M.

Bachelors were at WTAMU.

You?

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 26, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Member of A&M's MD/PhD

Did the first 2 years of medical school in College Station, but doing my PhD in Houston at the IBT under Hook (I’m pretty sure he’s cross-appointed to the bio/bio).

I almost did a rotation in Max Summers’ lab, but was talked out of it.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I've heard Summers is kind of a prick.

You doing the BiaCore stuff with Hook?

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 26, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've 'done' it once...

There’s a technician who actually does the experiments. Gold plates and expensive lasers and all…

So far I’ve done a smattering of things in the molecular biology and microbiology realm, but I’ve been moving more into biochemical techniques this semester (thank goodness!). We just got a crystal of a protein of interest this past week, so that should be fun.

The other thing I’m working on is not going so well right now. Going to have to try a different approach, I’m just not sure what that is yet. I am sure that it’s going to have to wait until after a vacation, though. =)

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I completely understand about experiments not going so well.

Lost a year’s worth of work on a project recently because of something that was really completely out of my control.
Lots of drinking the night that revelation was made.
Got it back on track though after getting to amend my hypothesis.

If I hear the phrase “That’s why they call it RE-search” one more time I may hurt someone.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's hard because..

…I’m under a bit of a time crunch. Knowing that you have 2 years of clinic time left after you finish your PhD makes school seem that much longer. It’s frustrating because there’s tons of opportunities to present data; I have the option for presenting at medical student events and graduate student events. So far I’ve just been cycling through small starter projects without any really sticking. I’ve learned a lot of techniques in the lab…but I’m ready to get data. Hopefully the crystal structure will lead to some stuff…

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya'll working with Sacchettini or doing the crystal yourselves?

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 26, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, ourselves.

We’ve got a Research Prof and post-doc who are crystallographers in the lab. Though we do share the X-ray machine with the part of his lab that’s here in Houston.

I’m not doing any of the structure solving, but I hope to dabble in it in the future.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good old mud-puds

gonna get paid more than everyone. Of course you’re in grad school for 10 years.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 25, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really...

…best way to make money in medicine is categorical surgical training-ortho, plastics or neuro.

Academic clinicians get paid based on their ratio of clinic to research time, the more clinic the better. I’m not sure about the breakdown I’ll want yet.

I’ve thought about pursuing sports medicine just because it’s something that could lend itself to research and an excuse to follow sports as much as I already do. But I’m not sure I want to know that much about my favorite players. Probably end up pursuing endocrinology or something of that ilk.

Now if hear about me signing on to work for a Wall St/Investment firm to analyze biotech firms, you’ll know I’ve sold out for the money. =) Apparently, it’s how an MD/PhD can make mucho dinero.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 25, 2010 11:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

well, also if you want to do research

an MD/PhD concentrating entirely on academic research makes significantly more than a comparable PhD, even if they aren’t using the MD at all.

As always, I guess, there are more profitable career paths than doing academic research.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 25, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Yup. Although I’m hearing that they get better professor startup packages and salaries compared to the standard PhD-PostDoc route. I’m not sure if this is just at medical schools where they are better suited to lecture or if it’s just a competition thing. Still, I’m not really interested in having 0 clinic time.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

BS in Aerospace Engineering + JD

Not sure what I want to get next. Either public policy school or a phd in history of science and technology.

by cstorm15 on May 25, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

PoliSci, ECON

May go to grad school for public administration if this shit doesn’t work out.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2010 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

working on mine

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If SMU didn't suck ass.

I’d have one of those next year.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

next on the list

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 25, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dual JD-MBA

"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs

by BAC on May 25, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Working on mine in Corporate Finance concurrently with an MS in accounting

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

graduated last year with mine

by CS3 on May 26, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

a couple of semesters away from a Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling

will be a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC) and a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC)

But I have at LEAST a doctorate from the School of Hard Knocks.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 25, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I still haven't received mine.

It’s a lot harder than it sounds.

doctorate from the School of Hard Knocks.

by lost in space on May 25, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

How's that going for you?

I’m supposed to be starting on my Masters in a semester or so.

by sprite on May 25, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stuff, I love it.

Some classes obv better than others, I love the Theory classes, the Application classes….Group is good……

Research and the Psychosocial Aspects of Chronic Illness and Disability..not so much.

Good luck to you man.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 25, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

Appreciate the info.

by sprite on May 25, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

you at UNT? what program?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 25, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Si

Trying to decide between counseling and clinical right now.

by sprite on May 25, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

in what department are you doing counseling in?

psyc? couns? rehab?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your name sounds like a snooty British guy, which means you'll prolly be very good at it.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Charles Guarnaccia and Paul Lambert are the greatest.

Take as many classes from them as you can.

I loved Linda Marshall too, some people don’t though. She’s a tough old bird.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a GED.

And that’s it.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 25, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Graduate Equivalence Degree

I think.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 25, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Enough Diploma.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 25, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet...

you still strike me as one of the more intelligent people here.

I think that’s a sign that you don’t have to have some degree hanging on your wall to show you’re smart.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you drop out in order to go to community college

…and then to university? I had a few friends who did that. I’m not even sure if it’s still possible.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me and my high school...

had differences of opinion about my education. They told me to stop going to class my junior year, to go to the library instead, and they were going to graduate me early. Then I got kicked out. So I got a GED.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 25, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've got to elaborate on that a bit

They just told you to stop going to class?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 26, 2010 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

They didn't tell me to stop going to all of my classes.

There were two (out of seven) that I was allowed to attend. The others were to be spent in the library. And they kindly told me that I would graduate early if I did that.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 26, 2010 3:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't of been having relations with your teachers then.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 26, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

If only it were that easy.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 26, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Odd "Other"

No Baccalaureate Degree, no Masters’ Degree, no PhD. Six years of college credits, including 1320 hours from the Air Force Institute of Technology. Concentration on heavy ground electronics (radar and telecommunications). Lotsa learning, no wallpaper.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on May 25, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I resemble this

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA and MA in history

Mostly Balkan and Eastern European history, though I also took a fair number of classes in French, English, and modern US history. Minors in political science and English.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete."

-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 25, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

What do you do...

if you don’t mind me asking?

I’d love to go back and get my MA in History, I just can’t justify the cost of it since it really won’t help me much in the real world.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 25, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming he's unemployed.

Or a high school teacher. If so, where at? Hook me up.

by Josh Lile on May 25, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, Rob's got a decent gig.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do OK

Currently working as the QA analyst for a financial services company in Coppell.

Never have done anything related to my degree, though the critical thinking and writing skills I picked up in grad school have helped with both my current position and past jobs as a writer, editor, and proofreader.

My dad was also a history major- BA in American history- and wound up working for the FAA for 30-plus years, so I suppose it’s one of those degrees where if you don’t teach, you wind up doing something completely unrelated…

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete."

-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 25, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm 19 and will be graduating with my bachelor's next spring

then it is off for law school

I’m studying like crazy for my LSAT on June 7th, so wish me luck. Gonna head up there a day early and get a good nights rest and hopefully catch a W against the rays on the 6th :)

by Elvis4Prez on May 25, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

When I first got to UNT I lived in the dorms

And the dorm I lived in was Bruce, which is right across from TAMS. Those girls were fucking trouble.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey now...

…I don’t strike you as insane, do I? I mean, maybe a bit peculiar, but insane?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 25, 2010 11:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmm, thanks?

But I was.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats for surviving.

I always got the impression that most of them either died or flunked out.

by Josh Lile on May 26, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha.

About 25% don’t make it to graduation. Well, that was about 10 years ago, I’m not sure what the odds are now.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's funny.

I was friends with a few TAMS kids when I was at UNT. A group of my college buddies put up a Counter-Strike server, and a load of them always played on it.

I also knew a couple of them through a webcomic community, as odd as that may sound.

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, yeah...

..my roommate 2nd year played a lot and I’d get in on some games on his (blazingly fast) comp. TAMS is about 2:1 guys:girls, but it seems closer to 1:1 because so many guys are room rats who just game all day/night.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

They were high school girls but thrown into a college setting without the normal parental supervision. They lived across from Bruce Hall, the craziest dorm on campus, and that’s where most of them came to eat. Lots of drugs and alcohol in Denton.

Shouldn’t have to say more than that, and won’t.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know about Bruce

It’s the music/nerd dorm… most of those kids seem to keep to themselves.
I think Kerr might be the crazy dorm now. It’s huge, and people know they can blend in easily even if they fuck shit up.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

I lived at Kerr my freshman year. That is a perfect description of that place.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on May 29, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that way when I was there. At all.

It was the music dorm, but jazz is the big thing at UNT and some of those guys were really cool. Lots of other artists and stuff lived there back then. There weren’t many “normal” people at Bruce, but it was very sociable and generally weird. No jocks or frat/sorority types.

by Black Francis on May 30, 2010 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Master of Music in orchestral conducting, SMU

Bachelors in trumpet performance, Ithaca College. I took defensive driving once, too, but I was pretty defensive long before that.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

You strike me as being more offensive...

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 25, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hah

Actually, I think I’m the only person on the road using their turn signals for lane changes.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a pet peeve of mine

So that makes two of us out there.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on May 26, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Three.

When I was in high school and still regularly attending church, my youth minister labeled me as one of those high school kids “doing 80 in a 40, but signaling so you’d know you’re about to get cut off.” Old(er) age has turned my lead foot into something less dense.

I had no idea you were so musical — I played French Horn in HS, but didn’t continue it in college after UNT told me that it would be next to impossible to get into a concert organization at the school. I miss performing to this day.

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to laugh at those people with fishes on their car

driving like Satan’s minions.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 26, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny.

I was behind one of those folks today. Cut me off, swerved around the car in front of me to cut him off, and then accelerated to swerve in front of an 18-wheeler in the right-hand lane…right in front of an entrance ramp. I passed him going 62 about three seconds later.

It’s times like those that I wonder, “what the hell is wrong with you?”

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are probably places you could play

community bands, some churches have orchestras (including mine), you should pick it up and take some lessons again.

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by t ball on May 26, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I definitely plan to.

I’m moving to Portland at the end of June, and the artsy community up there seems fantastic. I’m not-so-secretly hoping that I haven’t forgotten absolutely everything and I can get into a community orchestra.

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder....

What the results of the same survey would be on the Cowboys and Mavs blogs.

by LoneStarBallUser on May 25, 2010 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I might do those ....

got one going at Minor league ball right now.. 17 % don’t have at bachelors or higher…

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by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

BS in Accounting w/a minor in Economics

w/ graduate classes to hit the 150 hours for the CPA exam. I’m halfway done with that, and should be studying.

by BHill on May 25, 2010 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha

ill be in CPA hell next year. Good luck brotha!

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by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

It’s not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.

by BHill on May 25, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

it is basically just putting in the quality studying hours. It is not necessarily about intelligence, just put in the 200-300 hrs of quality studying per section and enjoy the passing score.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

not even that.

I’ve spent maybe 2 weeks each of actual studying on the first two sections and passed. If you study 2-300 hours per section you’ll hate life, but then again I don’t care about high scores, only passing.

by BHill on May 25, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice, that definitely instills confidence in me

which two sections did you take?

Honestly, i want to get an 85 or higher on all sections except FAR. I just want to pass FAR.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

AUD and BEC

and I hated cost accounting in school. Most people try to remember everything, and it’s really overkill. I have REG and FAR in July. It’s not ideal, but I’ve procrastinated too much and my NTS runs out.

by BHill on May 25, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

well good luck man

let me know how it goes!

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

My wife's in it now...

…it sucks. She missed passing the 4th part by 1 point, but now has to take 2 because the first one expired.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 25, 2010 11:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That sucks

and is one of the biggest fears i have

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on May 26, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I start Becker REG this week

Passed FAR in April and took AUD last week. I’ve been doing all the homework MCQs and for every 4-hour class I studied about 6-8 hours (doing MCQs, sims, making flashcards, etc).

I’ve never been one to stress out about tests, but I truly believe it’s just a matter of putting in the time to study the material to pass the exams.

Oh, and despite my good grades… no job.

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by drizzle on May 30, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

just graduate?

are you looking big 4, or just for any job?

by BHill on May 30, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Graduated in May with Masters

Big 4 didn’t hire anybody except their previous interns this year and while I got close with some regional firms, got nothing. Now I’m looking at IRS & corporate, so yes, basically any job

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by drizzle on May 30, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you're

in the Dallas area, I know some recruiters I can put you in touch with, they may be able to help.

by BHill on May 30, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am, and that would be great.

My email is in my profile

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by drizzle on May 30, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sent you an email.

Let me know if you didn’t get it.

by BHill on Jun 1, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

BS in CJ

I have no idea why. It just happened.

by hiafex on May 25, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha

Well said.

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by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

just finished my freshman year

and still got my 4 thankfully. Hope to be a doctor some day though.

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LOL

by MayurP on May 25, 2010 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

PhD in Computational Neuroscience

Masters and BS in Chemical Engineering

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 25, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

wow

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He scares me now...

He could go all Fringe on us…

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Hopefully I’ll get a faculty job somewhere once the academic market loosens up a bit.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 25, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me guess

that is pretty tough as well, huh?

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by Michael Cave on May 25, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Computational neuroscience?

I’m studying that as my PhD minor. What do you look at specifically?

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by Desert Ranger on Jun 4, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I put other for my associate's degree..heh.

Though I’ll have my bachelor’s shortly.. double majoring. Then off to get my Masters.

by Mike E on May 25, 2010 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I lied

and put what I hope to have in a couple of weeks

by ab03 on May 25, 2010 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

this is graduation season...

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some people don't graduate until December or August either

but I would call May graduation season.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any time

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

You do realize

That yours was probably the most useless comment ever made, right?

I just want to be sure you realize the history you’ve made.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

No more useless

than you pointing out that some peole graduate in June, but yes, I realize it was a useless comment.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually it's much more useless

Somebody said graduation season is over. Well, that’s clearly not true.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was pointing out

that graduation season is never really over…but the majority of graduations take place in May

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

May isn't over.

And a lot spill over into June.

The main season isn’t over yet. Please go back into obscurity.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will do

Thank you for your permission

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

December grads don't?

That isn’t true at all. I had a normal graduation.

by Josh Lile on May 26, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was a december grad

i forget that state schools spend money on those sorts of things

by ab03 on May 26, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baylor has 3 graduations.

May, August, December.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy TSTC

I graduate in August but don’t even get to walk. Their like “You can come back in December”…LOL

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by LSU Ranger on Jun 1, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

BS in Emergency Adminstration and Planning

i.e. Emergency Management (think disasters, FEMA, etc)

The degree is from UNT and was the first four-year degree of its kind in the nation. There are several others that offer it, but it is still pretty unique.

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by ortonius on May 25, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

This is neat, you get paid to help people.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most people don't know we exist...

but we would play a huge part in a response for any sort of local or statewide disaster. The last major one we participated in was Hurricanes Gustav and Ike.

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by ortonius on May 25, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get paid to find more efficient ways to kill people.

In a narrow sense, of course. Also neat, IMO.

BA’s in History and Humanities. Never used em for anything other than funsies.

Been kind of waffling between MBA and Electronic Systems Management for the past 3 years. I love school, but i love the me-time too.

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by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all about that, and fully support it.

I want our military to have a major technological advantage, at every moment.

I love school, but I love the me-time too…too.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agree about the military.

But I’ve been told before ‘round these parts that I’m a right-wing nutjob fascist, so take that for what it’s worth.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 26, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

/sniffle/

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Show 'em pics of the North Korean concentration camps and see what they say about that shit.

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

N Korea

It’s a real fucked up situation and they leverage that as best they can. They enough artillery trained on Seoul to kill millions of people in a few hours…just can’t fuck with them for that reason. Now they have a low yield atomic device, too, although some doubt that.

From the left, that’s what I have to say. It’s a very complex issue.

by Black Francis on May 26, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's a complete clusterfuck.

There is no answer to that particular quagmire, imo.

But I’m just saying that seeing evidence of what’s going on in North Korea makes me really, really fucking glad we have a military that could crush that sinister little fucker in about ten seconds if he ever decided to try some shit.

North Korea is hell on Earth.

It’s terrible.

It’s 1984 come to life.

It’s that fucking bad.

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their minimum height requirement for the army is 4'10".

Imagine how shitty the nutrition over there is if that’s the minimum height requirement.

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by benmor78 on May 27, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

go to bed.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm at work.

My employer would frown on that.

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by benmor78 on May 27, 2010 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Something I found while looking up North Korean artillery.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?162240-Bluffer-s-Guide-North-Korea-strikes!-%282009%29

Great info there if you want to pour through it.

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by Aqua on May 27, 2010 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

North Koreans are on average about 6-8 inches shorter than their very close genetic relatives to the South.

Really, that country is hell.

They have a special concentration camp just for the families of people who speak out against the government.

And if you think those people aren’t forced to labor in the salt mines, you’re a silly goose, cause of fucking course they have to labor in the salt mines!

Salt, salt, salt!

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by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

But they've got super-hot traffic ladies!

Woo-WOO!

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by benmor78 on May 27, 2010 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

This reminds me of a story about the German military prior to WWI. They approached Austria to do some “joint training exercises” or some such shit with their military. The two armies show up and the Germans were so far superior in stature, training, ability, discipline, etc. that not too long after, when Germany approached Austria about invading, Austria was just like, “If we fight, we know we’re fucked, so you can just come on in.”

by FuturePants on May 27, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hah, I'd never heard that.

That story reminds me of the story of when Dirk Nowitzki had to do his mandatory German army training and was too tall for any of the uniforms, so while every other single cadet on base was in uniform, he had to rock a pair of sweats… and also since he was so tall the drill sergeants would try to get in his face and yell it was all he could do not to bust out laughing cause you get in trouble if you don’t look straight ahead and they’d be yelling at his chest so of course he couldn’t see them

I got this second hand, btw. So it may be exagerated and/or completely false… I just found the image of super-dorky 18 year old Dirk running around a German military training base in sweats trying not to laugh as German drill sergeants yell at his chest.

The butt cut is just a terrible look…

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by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

My brother got the same degree from the same place.

He sells cars now.

Where do most get employed with this degree? I have projects that would be helpful to have someone on board with this type of background.

by 3hacks on May 25, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Employment varies

It is a very social degree and you have to network to really be successful.

There are huge number of paths one can take with the degree. Business continuity, public health, emergency management in hospitals, safety and emergency management for organizations, disaster response and cleanup, and then the mainstream paths of government (local, state, federal) .

As for me, I oversee an emergency operations center, coordinate all emergency communications mediums and administrate our critical information systems. One of my biggest duties is as the administrator and developer of a web-based, real-time emergency management software application.

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by ortonius on May 25, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is fun stuff. I'm becoming much more closely aligned with hazard mitigation planning and

emergency response in Iowa. Quite a bit of infrastructure has been built from the HGMP funds given to Iowa to recover from recent floods and tornadoes.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on May 25, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a part-time and then full-time job

for a bit working in floodplain management in conjunction with FEMA. Not really that interesting, but the outcomes are. Very cool that you are learning that stuff. It’s everywhere really. Look at the flooding in Nashville or the oil spill. Just wait until this hyperactive hurricane season starts. And tornadoes in Oklahoma…hail the size of cantaloupe? Crazy!

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by ortonius on May 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

HS Diploma + 6 credits of college

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 25, 2010 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Good for you, Jon!

Keep going buddy :)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 25, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought we where a bunch of uneductated, racist hicks?

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 25, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're both, you idiot.

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by thedirkatron on May 25, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't believe I had to go this far down to find a BS in Comp Sci.

I’m currently working on mine.

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by Gdawg on May 26, 2010 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck to both of you.

What’s the graduate program like, Closure?

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, it's pretty interesting.

On the whole, I found my graduate courses covered much more of the interesting stuff than my undergrad ones (on both on the theory and software engineering sides of things). I really enjoyed writing the code for the project I wrote my thesis about, too.

I started on my master’s right after getting my bachelors, and looking back I’ve got mixed feelings about that. I learned a lot of cool stuff, and I wouldn’t like to give that up, but it wasn’t the best move financially and after having the bachelor’s in hand I started to realize just how long I had been in school and got kinda stir crazy (I changed majors a couple of times before settling on CS as an undergrad, too). So when I found a company that would hire me with the bachelor’s and pay for me to complete the master’s as a distance student, I jumped at it.

by Closure GT on May 27, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

PhD, Agricultural Meteorology, Stats minor

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on May 25, 2010 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Agricultural Meteorology, nice

Where’d you get that degree?

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by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Other: I have an honorary doctorate in doing fucking rapes.

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by thedirkatron on May 25, 2010 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

bull

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by Ryin A on May 25, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shut your stupid beard face.

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by thedirkatron on May 25, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or did he play lacrosse at an ACC school well know for its basketball program?

"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa

by Hard8 on May 25, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

or well KNOWN for

I’m fucktarded

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by Hard8 on May 25, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

More likely Notre Dame

Followed by three years at St. Meinrad. Should be able to molest children for at least a decade before being transferred to Eastern Europe.

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by Ed Coffin on May 25, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, heh.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad taste

I shouldn’t ever go there.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
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by Ed Coffin on May 25, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if there's a line you can cross when you're flinging shame at the Catholic Church for the way they dealt with that whole issue.

It literally sickens me.

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

A banana?

Already peeled?

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

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by Ed Coffin on May 26, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness: BA from Rollins College (Winter Park, FL), major in English Lit, minor in Creative Writing.

Lived a few doors down from Reds catcher Ryan Hanigan freshman year, which is a fact I’m sure everyone’s tired of hearing about by now, seeing as how I mention like 100 times a week, I think.

But, fuck it.

I find it unbelievably cool he made it.

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I took a lot of creative writing workshops...

lots and lots of them.

I’ve come to the conclusion that workshops are torture.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on May 26, 2010 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am in no way surprised that you're educated in English and Creative Writing

Makes sense.

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you do now, Dirk?

Raping seems like it’s probably a part-time gig.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 26, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Help my parents manage their rental properties (and wait tables if I'm really in need of gooey green globs of straight up cash money), while trying to start a company... of sorts. I guess that's what you'd call it.

It’s no big secret or anything nefarious or any butt shit like that, it just doesn’t behoove me to talk about it online is all.

Before I quit to give this deal a go I was stuck in the most mindless job ever, but it paid well and I was thrifty, so now I can do this for a while.

If it doesn’t work out, I suppose I can always suicide and/or throw myself back into the “real job” market.

Prolly suicide, though.

Definitely, actually.

Hooray.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your business

Are you manufacturing rape kits? A line of hobo clothing? A baby puntery? Marketing baseball pants with extra room in the crotch for baseball weenie? Lemon ade stand? He could use some help this year.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 26, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Most people don’t realize how cheap life is as a bachelor in a cheap apartment. I pay $350/month right now and only buy about $20 a week of food. And I’m eating healthier than I ever have. I’ve got a 10 hour/week job at the radio station, donate plasma, and occasionally do spot shifts at the library. And I’m OK money-wise.
I had a job I hated but paid significantly better last year. But I couldn’t fucking wait to fall asleep every night just to escape the misery of it all… so what’s the point? Keep doing what you’re doing, man.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 26, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

350 a month??

Where do you live, Manila?

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shutup, rocket scientist.

Ooh, my house is made of gold and I shower in caviar and have my servant girls lick me clean.

I look down on people who don’t record their thoughts in moleskine notebooks and/or have less than 3 butlers.

I once took a calligraphy class and I speak multiple languages, often at the same time.

Look at me, la dee fucking dah!!!

The 40 trumps all!
Mention my name at checkout to get 20% off at www.InflatableSexClowns.com!!!

by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm no big balla

And what’s a moleskin notebook?

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 27, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's kind of a really big secret, but I'll hook you up with some secretive sites that might be able to answer that question for you...

Linky.

Secret like butsecksing 5 dudes on vacation, y’all!!!!

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit!

I was expecting a “more knobs lemon party” slinky from you!!!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 27, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aww, look at the Huntress

All dandified and fancy with the gag links.

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 27, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

What happened to my "a".

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Denton

I’m sharing a $700 2-bedroom apartment (800 square feet-ish) about a mile away from UNT (and conveniently,Fry Street).

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that's awesome

Is that pretty standard for apt.s near campus?

UT wasn’t that cheap in 1988.

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 27, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

More or less.

Denton is pretty ghetto in parts.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

cement city = cheap

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 27, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

lotsa crack too.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

Mine is considered cheap. I had to look for a while before finding it… I think one of the knocks against it is the proximity to a cemetery, as well as the fact that the pool’s not very large lavish.
Most students value stupid shit like that way more than they should. The majority of apartments are in the 500/room range. I got lucky.
Plus, the rec center’s pool is way nicer than anything boasted by the apartments.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I now know right where you live

That would be perfect for me if I went back for my MA in History. Right by Wooten

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look into it, man

The complex is called the Gazebo. It’s a diamond in the rough.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly

It actually hadn’t come to mind… but if you get serious about it, shoot me an e-mail at orthegm@gmail.com. I’ll get you more info.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

IOOF Cemetary

I love the IOOF (Independent Order of Odd Fellows)

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well my goodness

I ALWAYS wondered what the hell “IOOF” stood for. I wondered if it might be an error or something.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

IOOF

They sponsored my brother’s baseball team when he was a kid.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 27, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha, I remember that

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was 100 F

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 27, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

I-doubleO-F.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 27, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word.

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody know

The Leaning House on Oak Street?

That’s where I lived during and a little after college. It was I had three housemates and when split our rent was $117.50 per month each. It was a dump but a hell of a lot of fun.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it past Ave C/Malone/Jagoe ( I never know what the name of that street is)?

I think they demod that a couple weeks ago.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

no fucking way

1822 W. Oak? They were trying to get a zoning change for years to build apartments there, but the uppity neighbors would rather look at that piece of shit house than live near apartments and always beat it.

Piece of shit or not, that house should be a historical landmark. It was the oldest house on the street, and actually used to be a farm house. Plus it was my house.

You sure you’re not thinking of the place next door? It burned down while I was still there but it stood for a long, long time for some reason. Can’t miss the Leaning House…white, two stories, literally leaning over toward the right. Has a staircase on the side for the 2nd floor apartment.

I’m pissed off. Can you get a pic and post it?

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you promise to be angrier than you are right now. :)

I think that’s it….I park right by it for class.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You cannot be angrier

The best years of my life so far were spent in that house. So many drugs and girls and just lots of good times all around.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drugs and girls...

that combo does tend to create a plethora of good times.

by lost in space on May 27, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just google mapped it...I don't think that's it...

but I do think it’s a monestary or something weird…I’ll check it out and report back to you.

I now think I know what you’re talking about…my uncle lived on Alamo Street and we used to play in the big ass back yard behind that beast of a house…I think I remember finding Playboys in some shed in the back.

Shit, I’m all over the place who knows man.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leaning House, c. 1997

Okay, this is it…a quick negative scan so sorry about the image quality. Note the Oscar Myer “Weinermobile” pedal car on the front porch.

Is this the house that was demolished? If so I will burn Denton to the ground, William T. Sherman style:

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This, my friends,

is what we call a ‘gangsta lean’

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just like my sig.

I luv you, RD.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 27, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that's effed up

And cool at the same time. Of course I saw the Weinermobile pedal pusher before you mentioned it…I gots class!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 27, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Class

We had plenty, as you can tell not only by the Weinermobile but by the presence of the beat up recliner on the porch.

The house was fucked up real bad. There was the lean, which caused the windows to be immobilized. That was bad because there was only one window unit for the whole bottom part of the house (four bedrooms). And there was a hole behind the water heater that rats used to get in. We tried plugging it up with skateboard decks but the sons of bitches were strong enough to push them out of the way.

It was a great place. Some old ladies in a Buick Park Avenue stopped by one afternoon saying that they used to live there when they were kids. That’s how we came to find out it was the oldest house around there and that there was a farm.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

Rats in NYC are so mutated they can chew through steel. I’ve seen rats there that were 2 foot+, ask BG.

Smithsonian article on rats.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 27, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I've seen them.

These were bigger than our dog, though, and you don’t expect to see that in Denton, Texas.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup, that's the one I originally thought it was....I think it's still there.

was Eddie Lane your llord?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know who the second one was

First it was a lady, and she wasn’t very nice but pretty much left us alone. Then a couple months before we moved out she sold the place. The new owner tried to charge us a bunch of money on move-out but we took care of that. For all I know that was his name…really don’t remember. The charges were for really stupid shit like letting the grass die, when there wasn’t even a faucet outside to water it even if we wanted to. Also for fleas, but there were no fleas in there. We did have a dog but we took care of him. I wouldn’t have tolerated living with fucking fleas and no dog of mine is going to have fleas for very long either. We didn’t really take care of the house, but it was all fucked up to begin with and we left it in is good as shape as it was when we moved in.

Fucking slum lords. If that’s the guy and you know him tell him “fuck you” for me.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, no that would be him...

I can’t believe that place wasn’t / isn’t condemned, I think people still rent from there and it’s leaning even further.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 28, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good house for what it is.

It is the best house for what it is, actually, and I do not wish to see it declared unfit. But it could use some more air conditioning and a little fixing up. Last time I went by a few months ago it wasn’t leaning anymore than it ever had. The photo above doesn’t really show it that well but the lean was pronounced back in ancient times when I was in college. It must be a sound structure or we would have made it fall apart, believe me.

by Black Francis on May 28, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

$345/month

is what I paid in 2006 at the Biltmore Apartments on Park Lane in Dallas. 600 sf, $345 a month.

Now I’m in Austin, married with a mortgage. Life is not as cheap as it once was.

by VM on May 27, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

BA - Political Science...

Our motto – Why try when there’s Poli Sci?

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." Chuck Morgan 5/13/10

by GhostofSteveFoucault on May 25, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

No...it...wasn't...

I just heard someone say it a while back and it struck me as funny.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." Chuck Morgan 5/13/10

by GhostofSteveFoucault on May 26, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

i went to one of the best schools in the country...

and somehow wound up with a BA in History. turned down free masters from a couple schools… now i teach.

i = serial underachiever.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on May 25, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

i work in DISD for now, down towards the grove,

and i coach football and baseball currently. mainly a football guy. four year starter at safety at columbia.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on May 26, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

BBS - Liberal Arts (Psychology)

and followed it up with a Masters degree in Counseling and Human Development.

Should’ve gotten my LPC years ago, but got distracted by work. Now thinking about getting my teaching certificate and going into school counseling.

by Fooster7 on May 25, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

BS in Journalism

with minors in Human Comm and Youth/Family Ministry. Shoulda saved my money and gone backpacking in Europe.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on May 25, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

How did you end up a police officer, Bob?

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

BBA in Management

…and about half way done with an MBA in Integrated Management.

Some people have hobbies like fishing or fixing up old cars. My hobby is going to school, apparently.

by macromorgan on May 25, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

BS in Math

Completed all casualty actuarial exams… FCAS 2003

by JShoe on May 25, 2010 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

BS x 2

Chemistry and Homeland Security of all things

respice adspice prospice

by FormerDriller on May 25, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

not sure how that helped you

come up with one of my favorite screen names/default pic combos, but whatever works.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who was your PI?

If you don’t mind me asking.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 26, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

PI?

If that refers to major professor/advisor it was Kenn Harding.

by T Coleman on May 26, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

PI?

If that refers to major professor/advisor it was Kenn Harding.

by T Coleman on May 26, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

PI?

If that refers to major professor/advisor it was Kenn Harding.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm currently working on a BS in the RTVF department at UNT

However, I may seek a transfer to UT after another semester. Finishing my freshman year with a perfect GPA should help my cause.
We’ll see.

Why so serious?

by Joker'z on May 25, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Currently working on my BBA.

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on May 25, 2010 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Btw, goddamn at all the ambitous people on here.

Kudos to you all.

Maybe in 20 years, we can all buy the Rangers. Fuck it, let’s do it.

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on May 25, 2010 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

bachelor

in business. help run family business. worked one year for someone else. absolutely hated it. being the boss is the only way to go.

by mo on May 25, 2010 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Bringing down the average...

I’m a college dropout.

Considering a colossal waste of time (film school).

by vfn on May 25, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

You have no friends.

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on May 26, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

no u

Heh.. seriously though.

by Mike E on May 26, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on May 26, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh...

I’m thinking about doing psychology after high school (like, graduate this year). I will have to do a post-grad degree to actually get any kind of decent job in that field, right?

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on May 25, 2010 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Fixed

I’m thinking about doing psychology after high school (like, graduate this year). I will have to do a post-grad degree to actually get any kind of decent job in that field any field, right?

by Josh Lile on May 26, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a Ph.D. in Psych

Unfortunately, yes bro. Unless you want to go work at a mental institution (not kidding – you can go be a glorified orderly w/ a B.S. degree) you really do need a graduate degree.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Truth.

There are people with a Masters in Psyc who make 11/hr where I work….

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on May 27, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Whose Line Is It Anyway?"

funny show?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on May 25, 2010 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Definitely funny

some skits will be better than others, of course, but some pretty hilarious stuff.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 25, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is the best skit ever

I have seen them all, and this was the funniest moment by far…

"Hey Sanka, you can pee now... uuummm, too late...."
This used to be links to my websites... But the man got in the way, shut them all down... Damn the man... ~ Rangers Game Streams ~ Password: LSB123

by FormerLSBUser on May 26, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya

those are my go toos for laughs… the duck one is pretty great

"Hey Sanka, you can pee now... uuummm, too late...."
This used to be links to my websites... But the man got in the way, shut them all down... Damn the man... ~ Rangers Game Streams ~ Password: LSB123

by FormerLSBUser on May 26, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

MS Accounting, UTA

Passed the CPA ten years ago. Back then, I had to sit in a cold room with 1,500 people on 2 consecutive days, then wait 3 long months for the results. The CPA exams were only offered twice a year.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on May 25, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Another UTA grad!

Although I see you majored in a business-related field, so you probably weren’t made to feel like a red-headed stepchild the way us liberal arts majors generally were…

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete."

-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 26, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

About to get my BA in RTVF

From UNT.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 25, 2010 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Not sure if it was posted above

but here is the first LSB Education Survey, from 2007

The breakdown was as follows:
HS: 16%
Technical degree: 2%
Assoc. degree: 5%
Bach. degree: 49%
Master degree: 18%
Doctor degree: 8%

While it wasn’t broken down into types of doctorates, at it wasn’t clear where law degrees fit in, it looks like the distribution of degrees is statistically the same as we’ve seen today. Though with many fewer votes.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 26, 2010 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Here is the summary of that series of polls

Back then we probably had about 100 regular posters

Surprise #1: That so many of you actually answered questions, made detailed comments and voted, thank you.

Surprise #2: That there were more lesbians than females.

Surprise #3: For the most part, our discussions of religion and politics were civil. There were more serious dust-ups over Loe vs. Wright, various fast food choices, and Walmart. Kudos all around.

Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam

by t ball on May 26, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Loe vs Wright

the argument where everyone is wrong.

Just seeing those two names makes me appreciate the 2010 Rangers.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 26, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

Well, since a law degree is a doctorate, I’m sure any lawyers would have put themselves into the last category.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm about to get one

and I’m not sure I consider it the same, even though it technically is.

Something about writing no thesis

by ab03 on May 26, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speak for yourself.

I wrote a 50 page paper on the death penalty as it applies to punishing internationally born terrorists apprehended on US soil.

Not as intense as a dissertation, sure, but not real fun.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds miserable

But I wrote a 35 page paper on created water in the Rio Grande Basin and another 35 pager on Texas law pertaining to surface use by mineral producers. And both thoroughly entertained me.

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Property

Because a lot of that stuff is very, very interesting to me, but not interesting enough that I want to spend a whole lot of time on it. Those first year courses are great—the Reader’s Digest of law.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aw man.

I thought we were friends now because you responded to me without vitriol earlier.

Sigh.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Relax, it's a joke.

We’re totally best friends. And yes, I realize you have in fact started law school now.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’ve written long papers too. My friends and family have written dissertations. 50 page papers are not dissertations

by ab03 on May 26, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct, sir.

Maybe an undergraduate thesis, but it would be kind of light even for that.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I said:
Not as intense as a dissertation, sure

So, thanks.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

well then your "speak for yourself" comment doesn't really make sense

speaking for myself and everybody else that’s a JD, most of us didn’t have to write a dissertation hence I don’t consider it a real doctorate

by ab03 on May 26, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why we don't refer to each other as "doctor" so and so, probably.

I don’t think any lawyers think our degree is in as high regard as an MD or PhD or something, but it is a doctorate, make no mistake.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

As much as a PharmD for a pharmacist is a doctorate.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 27, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gagree.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

which reminds me

my alotted time for baseball is over…back to the books

by kevinkinsler on May 26, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

BA from ACU

Working on my masters

Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!

by bdk03a on May 26, 2010 12:35 AM CDT reply actions  

What are you getting your masters in?

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by RangersSD on May 27, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

MBA

gonna go back and get my JD starting August ’11

by CS3 on May 26, 2010 1:12 AM CDT reply actions  

BA in Sociology/Anthropology

Course I’m mostly a lurker from LL, so perhaps I’m throwing your statistics off.

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by MT Olson on May 26, 2010 2:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Depends...

..do you think the Mariners’ have the 6th best organization in the majors?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'd put them around twelve

Course I don’t write for Fangraphs

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by MT Olson on May 26, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, then...

…I think you’re close enough to the mean to not through off the statistics too much. =)

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woohoo!

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by MT Olson on May 26, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

UT Austin

BA, (Colonial) Latin American History/Cultural Anthro
MA, Latin American Studies, Cultural Anthro emphasis and sundry minors – PhotoJ, Rhetoric, Contemp. LA History, Contemp. LA Lit/Film

Decided the (Cultural Anthro) PhD track was not for me in the end (ZERO jobs) but I enjoyed the ride trying to figure that out (just not the debt).

by Goyogringo on May 26, 2010 2:43 AM CDT reply actions  

So what do you do now?

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on May 26, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

looking

for internships and thinking about some oral history, documentary film/photography workshops. Hopefully I eventually land a gig with an international human rights ngo/npo.

by Goyogringo on May 26, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

Good luck! I toy with the idea of switching into that line of work on occasion (ngo/non-profit).

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on May 27, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

25 lawyers?

That surprises even me. I know me, AJM, MJH, WestTXAg06 are all attorneys. Beyond that, I’m sure I was aware of a few more, just am not recalling at the moment, but 25 is a lot. We rule.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, that surprised me too

I figured we had several, but we were all just loud enough to take up a lot of space on the board. Never would have guessed there were a full 25 of us.

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by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess Newberg, too.

But I have to doubt that Newberg and MJH even voted in this poll.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are two types of lawyers on here

All of us, and then The Newberg. He gets his own category.

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by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

"I don't want to be a pirate!"

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

BBA in Real Estate

from the greatness that is UNT

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

And what do you do with that?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me personally

I am an asset manager for a property management company, but there are many posssibilities. Anything from real estate agent/broker, property manager, appraiser, mortgage officer, other stuff…

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah cool.

Maybe I should check into that. Dunno, I have been thinking about going back to school, again.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is a cool program

with awesome professors, but you don’t really need a degree for many of the jobs that fall under the real estate umbrella…it doesn’t hurt to have one though.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on May 26, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

True, unless you want to move into management or something.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

PhD Religion Politics and Society

I have some Associates degrees in something or other…
BA in Poli Sci…
Masters in Public Policy and Administration…
ABD for my PhD
      - Field research done and writing in process

by lamron on May 26, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Ph.D.

Industrial/Organizational Psychology

As some of you know, just recently found a job after 18 months of being out of work since finishing.

Those 18 months? Yeah, they were a kick in the scrotum.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

And it won't hurt if you miss work.

That fucking duck is a LIAR!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rodney,

I love you, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what you’re saying here.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhhhh.

Gotcha!

Yeah, it hurt to miss work.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Finishing up PhD

in Mechanical Engineering. MS, BS in same, and an additional BS in Aerospace Engineering.

by Outworlder47 on May 26, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

That hurts just to read.

Ha.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 26, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity, what does one do with a PhD in engineering?

Do you get a PhD with a focus on an academic career or is there a call for PhD engineers in the private sector?

I’ve always wondered about that.

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by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's essentially where I want to be

High-end research jobs love the PhDs, because they take it as an indication that you know how to design/run/follow up on your own projects.

by Outworlder47 on May 31, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm definitely not there yet, but I'd like to be there one day as well.

Designing projects is fun, but based on my master’s program experience I knew I wasn’t ready to tackle the run/follow up part of a multi-year project on my own like that. Haven’t yet built up the discipline to go for a PhD program (or the savings account, for that matter, heh).

by Closure GT on Jun 1, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

BS in Accounting from UNT

Going to get the old master’s at some point. any other accountants in here?

by phatjeremy on May 26, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Finished my Master's

in Counseling a year ago from Hardin-Simmons. I’m considering getting an MBA. I probably won’t though. I’m so tired of school. So all you guys with a PhD, I don’t know how you do it.

by smalls on May 26, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

LSB, man.

LSB.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

PhD in science

is just like having a research job which presumably you really like, only you get paid half of what the technicians (who have BAs and Masters) get. But you do get paid while you’re getting your degree. I can’t imagine how non-science/engineering PhD’s get by actually having to shell out cash for school, insurance, housing, etc. for 6 or 7 years.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 26, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh

and the whole “school” part – the classes and what not – are only about a year or two, and they aren’t like classes at any other point in your life. In my experience, they’re challenging, but they are relevant to your life, so you and everyone else works hard at them. No one fails classes in PhD programs.

The real work is afterward, but that isn’t “school,” it is research. And research is both pretty easy and really hard at the same time.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've spent the past 4 years of my life trying to explain this to people.

The “Good Lord! You’ve been in school for how long?!” stuff gets kind of old.

You’re right about the stipend though. It is pretty nice to get a PhD and not have student loans.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on May 26, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

Or an MD and PhD. The total years suck, but the not having to pay anything and getting a stipend the whole time is pretty nice.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shit. I can't imagine this.

 My Ph.D. cost me over $100 K

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

What? Should I keep this to myself? Are you going to tell my other internet friends?

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh...

you’re a lawyer. Maybe you meant that’s not that much in terms of graduate school loans. I dunno. 6 dots isn’t exactly a precise message.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 27, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought about it for awhile.

They did offer a scholarship, but it wasn’t nearly enough, especially considering that I was leaning toward government/small firm work even then.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I got $10k/year in scholarship...

…which is what swayed me. I cannot grasp the thought of having another $30,000 in debt at this point.

by FuturePants on May 27, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they're terribly worried about it

But I wonder what the “official” SMU position is on the UNT law school.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mentioned it to Cross one day after class and she acted like she barely knew what I was talking about.

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by Aqua on May 27, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Cross.

I think they will start to think about it when and if it becomes accredited (or has this happened?). Then, maybe 30 years later, if everything breaks right, it will be able to approach the top tier and threaten SMU. Until then, SMU will probably just ignore it.

by FuturePants on May 27, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Parents are the hardest to explain this to....

Parent: “How many classes are you taking?”
Child: “None.”
Parent: “When will you be finished with school?”
Child: “I don’t know.”
Parent: “What are actually doing?”
Child: “Research.”

by T Coleman on May 26, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

It’s the truth. My mom still tries to get me to quit the PhD part of the program every time I go back home.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 27, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the students in my department had TAships or fellowships

which did not pay well but allowed you to avoid big loans. I know people in the humanities who paid for their doctoral degrees with loans, but you really shouldn’t.

by other_shoe on May 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too...

Were you a Family Psych. grad. or COHD grad.?

by Fooster7 on May 26, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

COHD

I had a full time job and the family psych program doesn’t help with that at all.

by smalls on Jun 3, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

B.A.s English & Art History; J.D.

Currently: Federal prosecutor. Later: Plaintiff’s lawyer. Praying I can retire before I’m 50. Think long and hard before going to law school, folks.

by JDT217 on May 26, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, I'm not as unhappy now as I was when I was in private practice.

I actually like the job I have now; but I took on an enormous amount of law school debt, and it’s a constant source of stress and anxiety as my wife and I start a family.

by JDT217 on May 26, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true.

How long have you been in your current position?

I’m looking to be a governement lackey in some form or fashion. Not a prosecutor, though.

by brettgardner on May 26, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

year and a half

if you want to be a trial lawyer, it’s a good way to go.

by JDT217 on May 26, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This seems to fit.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consider both the Commerce and State Departments

Both have their hands full with export and trade issues, including sanction evasion, licensing, and regulatory limitations.

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by Ed Coffin on May 26, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
Think long and hard before going to law school, folks.

Could not agree more.

by FuturePants on May 26, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

I don’t regret it for a minute and things are working out splendidly for me, but I had a pretty defined idea of what I wanted to do with my law degree.

Just going to law school because you think it’s a shortcut to wealth is a recipe for disaster.

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they have.

But it is a true statement nonetheless.

by Mike E on May 26, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

Here’s an example: “Claudia de Falchi has nice tee-tahs”. Those are very true words.

by bhudson on May 26, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hitler was an anti-semite

Yay. I win!

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Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

When did Michael Jordan start rocking the Hitler 'stache? Has anyone else noticed this? Am I going crazy?

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

But you and Mr. Irish could get together and figure it out. Don’t get him mad, though, he might hurt your fillings and call you dork.

by VM on May 27, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sophomore in College

I honestly didn’t realize I was one of the younger people on this site. Another reason why I will rarely post here.

by rasta style on May 26, 2010 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Why?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 26, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck it. Do rapes. Unless you're dumb. Then keep rarely posting.

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

BA in Political Science and History from UNT

Just finished my MA in Government with a concentration in Counter-Terrorism and Homeland Security studies……… trying to figure out how to parlay that into a job……..

by Soltheman3 on May 26, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Taking it June 14th........

Need to buy the official study guide, and get serious about preparing for it….

by Soltheman3 on May 26, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

Yes. Yes, you do. And don’t fret if you flunk it the first time(s).

by JDT217 on May 26, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

gotta be one of the hardest tests out there.

by ab03 on May 26, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It shouldn't be that surprising.

I mainly went to UNT because I was a slacker. Could’ve gone to UT, but decided to stay near home.

by Josh Lile on May 26, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was a slacker and messed up going to UT (not that I could afford it) so I ended up at UNT where I slacked even more.
Plus I was close enough to home to make trips to get free groceries and do laundry.

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by rentz on May 27, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo
Plus I was close enough to home to make trips to get free groceries and do laundry.

^

Though now that I’m graduated and unemployed for 18 months since that glorious day I wish I had gone to the fucking University of Baghdad to get away from my family.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

I hear you. My parents persuaded me to go to UNT because of the closeness… which made me reluctant to go there, but it was too good a fit as a fantastic RTVF/music school with cheap tuition and generous scholarships. I don’t regret my decision at all, though travelling to visit the family in Dallas every other week gets burdensome.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did the same.

When I lived in the dorms I drove home every weekend to get away from my roommate. I didn’t really even have a true college experience.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I spent my first two years in the dorms because it seemed like the cheapest option ( I went sans meal plan)… furing my first year, I hung on to aforementioned jobs in Dallas (supervised at a deli and catering company) and worked thursday, friday and sunday. It was miserable… I came to hate Dallas simply because of what I went through when within its confines.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds exhausting.

That travel gets annoying after a while.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

More often than not

I slept at my parents’ house. Believe me, it wasn’t fun.

http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/

by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA in Advertising

Texas State ’07

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on May 26, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

You have a BA in Advertising from TS?

Sweet. What year?

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by TxStCa on May 26, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol. I meant I was in the topic now heh

The topic had died down and most on the site are in the gameday thread.. so I felt I should point out we were both in here at this time. heh.

by Mike E on May 26, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is an absolutely amazing bit

the gift that keeps giving

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike E is one of my three favorite posters

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by WestTxAg06 on May 26, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boo.

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by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF?

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bachelors in Fine Arts - UTA

I don’t know what I’m doing with my life

by oc on May 26, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

But then again, who really does?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 26, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think most of us spend most of our lives vacillating between “I’m finally doing something with my life!” and, “Dear lord, I don’t know what I’m doing with my life!”

by jwiscarson on May 26, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know...

if I’ll ever get to the point where I know what I want to do when I grow up.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 26, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do... I'm wasting it!!!

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by thedirkatron on May 26, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bachelors in Biomedical Engineering

Now working on PhD in Physiology, about half way done

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by Desert Ranger on May 26, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Soon to be B.S.

From the Bob Scheiffer school of journalism in Advertising and Public Relations…

Minor in Psychology…

My career path is fairly well defined as of now… Looking towards one of two things…

1. Media Relations/Marketing for a professional sports team or College Athletics office…

2. Public Relations/Marketing in business world, with preference in music and/or non publicly trade-able companies…

Lucky for me I have developed a lot of solid contacts over the years and have many in each of these job fields, so things might be ok…

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by FormerLSBUser on May 26, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Bob Sheiffer

So wronged at CBS. He is a bazillion times better than Cutie Couric.

by LoneStarBallUser on May 26, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's not even cute any more.

She’s like some weird android with a bad mop.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on May 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mmm... Katie Couric Sex Robot...

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by thedirkatron on May 27, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone I know that works in sports

Pro or college absolutely hates it and wants to get out. It’s usually very low paying, plus you have to work nights/weekends obviously. I almost took a low paying sports job, but I sold my soul for a corporate job instead — best decision I ever made.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Selling out is underrated

"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34

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by Brian Thomas on May 26, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Used to work for a defense contractor too at first — that was REALLY selling out.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

BS in Physics...

from ACU.

"Everybody wants the most they can possibly get for the least they can possibly do." - Todd Snider

by henryfinkel on May 27, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Late to the party...

BS in Computer Science. MBA in Marketing and Entrepreneurship.

Now working on a biomedical sciences certificate as a pre-medical degree. I should be a doctor sometime before I’m 40… I think.

by NoNameOnCard on May 27, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

BA here

Dartmouth, English/CW major. No plans to go further.

by VM on May 27, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Go further

school is so much better than anything that comes after it

by nortorious on May 27, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the advice

But I’m not ignorant of what comes after. I’ve been out of school for six years.

by VM on May 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I’m not sure why they assumed otherwise.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You aren't doing shit with a BA in Creative Writing.

My girlfriend has been unemployed for near 2 years with a Creative Writing degree from U of H.

Do yourself a favor and don’t get in our situation. Go further.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you just assuming that he hasn't already done something?

Also, no offense, but Dartmouth is quite a step up from Huoston.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going to U of H

Definitely increases your rape awareness and avoidance. Even dirkatron cant rape a girl that did time at the U of H

by nortorious on May 27, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding.

My wife gets an e-mail about once a month from their alert system. Thank goodness she doesn’t work on campus.

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by GhettoBear04 on May 27, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston is a top notch Creative Writing school. One of the better ones.

Not sure why you’re trying to pick a fight. Who cares? You can’t get very far with a creative writing degree. If he did already then more power to him.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I’m simply stating the obvious. Here’s another shocker: Harvard is quite a step up from Tech.

Don’t get offended so easily.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not offended in the least.

Dartmouth might be a better school as a whole, but it isn’t a better school for creative writing so I’m not sure what your point is.

Each school has it’s own strengths and weaknesses. Being an Ivy League school doesn’t automatically make it #1 in everything.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a general sense

But you’re not looking at the specific situation. The Lakers are a better team than the Suns, but their point guard play can’t come close to matching Phoenix’s.

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by Conjunction on May 27, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see the comparison.

People hire out of college based pretty much on resumes. I’m just willing to bet that no matter what the program, an Ivy League grad is a safer bet.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

Reminds me of Scalia’s hilarious bubble-busting last year:

By and large I’m going to be picking from the law schools that basically are the hardest to get into. They admit the best and the brightest, and they may not teach very well, but you can’t make a sow’s ear out of a silk purse. If they come in the best and the brightest, they’re probably going to leave the best and the brightest, O.K.?

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends on the specialty.

If the person who’s interviewing you knows a lot about creative writing programs (or what have you), then they’ll make the more informed decision.

In general though, I think you’re right. The manager who hired me for my first job had no idea about highly-ranked computer science programs (he graduated in the 80s and still wrote ancient programs), and the manager who hired me for my current job…was never a programmer.

by jwiscarson on May 27, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's exactly right.

I just don’t think employers generally scour the various rankings every year for Program X. Obviously some will, and as you said, they’ll make a more informed decision.

But mainly they’re just looking at school name (and general prestige either nationally or locally), jobs/activities, and maybe references.

Of course, I should say that even knowing that Houston is ranked higher—and I should say I’d certainly want to know the methodology before I cared too much—I’d probably still give the presumptive nod to the Ivy Leaguer, for the same reasons that Scalia gave.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

College prestige

I worked a bunch of odd jobs in mountain towns before I was forced to give up my wandering lifestyle due to a bad skiing accident.

When I did enter the white collar world, I’ll say that having Dartmouth on my resume (and little else, frankly) definitely gave me a leg up. Not saying that’s how it should be, but that’s how it is.

by VM on May 27, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're preaching to the choir.

I’m pretty sure that that is how it should be. With very little information to go on, it gives a very impressive insight.

Now, I wouldn’t hire strictly off resume, but as I said it creates a presumption in my mind that the other candidates would have to overcome with a great interview, etc.

Of course, I should also say that I’ve never hired anybody, and it’s very possible that I would be horrible at it using my methods.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's frankly a huge difference between undergraduate degrees and graduate degrees in this respect

A lot of times, having an Ivy-league or similar institution on your resume for your undergraduate degree is not a good measure for anything more than SAT aptitude (which, in turn, is a poor measure of intelligence because of wonderful companies like Princeton Review). Yes, many of the kids at prestigious undergrad institutions are very smart and capable; but they’re mostly just the beneficiaries of privileged upbringings.

Give me the UT/Harvard guy over the Harvard/UT guy any day of the week. (and, no, I didn’t go to either institution)

by JDT217 on May 27, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that.

Although generally speaking, the same sort of thing applies to graduates, it’s just that the process is slightly more difficult.

I mean, it was really pretty easy to breeze through undergrad, and there’s no shortage of companies looking to “help” with the LSAT, for instance.

Still, I agree that I’d take the UT/Harvard guy all things being equal.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d guess that admission into elite graduate programs is a better indicator of someone’s work ethic and such (compared to elite undergrad).

But it’s also a bit like prospect analysis: of course the performance of an 18 year old requires more uncertain projection than that of the 22+ year old.

The number of students who truly impressed me at Dartmouth was fairly small, and I often wondered if that percentage would have been similar at a hundred other schools…

by VM on May 27, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And work ethic is key here...

I think you can learn a lot more about a candidate’s work ethic from looking at his/her resume than you can about a candidate’s general aptitude. This is important because work ethic ends up trumping aptitude in most cases. This is especially so in private law practice with generic big firm X.

by JDT217 on May 27, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I should add..

I’ve never been in the position of making hiring decisions, though I have served on the recruiting committees for a couple of different large Dallas law firms. The two things I looked at most closely? Course selection and writing sample. Those two pieces tell you a lot about a candidate.

by JDT217 on May 27, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm curious about what you mean

Did you view the courses in the context of the position the applicant was applying for?

Obviously having too many “Law and ____”s is not the greatest credential-booster, but I’m just curious.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I was in a litigation section, so yes

I wasn’t going to hold it against a candidate who had a lot of transaction-related courses on his/her resume, but we didn’t get those anyway.

Just by way of example:

Candidate A

Administrative Law – B
Federal Courts – B+
Constitutional (insert theory or subtopic) – B+
Antitrust – B
Jurisprudence – A-

Candidate B

Civil Litigation (Clinic) – A
Law and Society (or whatever) – A
Evidence – A-
International (anything) – B+
Health Law – A

I’m already leaning toward candidate A after an initial review of his/her resume. Assuming (and it’s likely given the two different paths they’ve taken) that candidate A is also the stronger writer, that’s the person to whom I would give the nod.

by JDT217 on May 27, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmm

Understandable.

That also makes me happy because A is almost exactly my schedule next fall.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we've been over this already, but where are you in school?

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by Aqua on May 27, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant which school.

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by Aqua on May 27, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on the graduate degree.

For medical school, sure I agree. For a PhD in the sciences, I’d rather have the PhD from Harvard unless they’re coming out of one of the truly spectacular labs in Austin.

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by GhettoBear04 on May 27, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

But I think his point is that anything above undergrad is on a very different level.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

PhDs in sciences

generally get judged on who they did their work with and the quality of their work.

Really the only people who’ll look much at the institution are people who don’t know anything about the field. And if you’re a PhD being judged by someone who doesn’t know your field well, then you’ve probably taken a wrong turn somewhere.

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by JBImaknee on May 28, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or you're a PhD...

..applying to residency. * Worried Face *

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by GhettoBear04 on May 28, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

SAT and community service type stuff in HS, in my experience.

All those idiot kids who did stuff like study for the SAT and didn’t do stuff like take it on 4 hours of sleep after checking out haunted houses all nights to push their scores up make it too competitive these days for good old slacker but naturally good at the SAT (yay knowing lots of obscure words!) kids to have a shot at an Ivy.

(I hope this comes off more funny than bitter, I was quite happy with not going to an Ivy. It’s not like they’re known for undergrad engineering programs anyway.)

by Closure GT on May 27, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotcha

I’ve always done exceptionally well on test too, for whatever reason. Maybe i have a bitchin’ subconscious…because I never studied much until I was taking those ridic MS and Cisco tests.

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by Rodney on May 27, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

You’d have to hire and fire quite a few before your sample size was judged adequate around here.

Unfortunately, I don’t think philkid covered when Hiring Efficiency stabilizes in his Fan Post.

by VM on May 27, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard for me to say.

I think that Scalia’s reasoning comes from a very normalized and privileged perspective. I would imagine that kids whose families have greater access to wealth attend better public schools, and conversely are better prepared for the SATs (and their schools are more likely to place greater importance on these tests systemically). Consequently, they’re going to get admitted to better ranked schools.

That doesn’t make them stupid nor does it take away from their academic accomplishments, but (from my perspective) it doesn’t accurately measure their capacity to learn. For what it’s worth, I couldn’t give a shit about where you went to college or what degree you received. Your efforts (academic or otherwise) and your ability to explain those efforts are all I care about.

by jwiscarson on May 27, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I’m sure it’s not a bad correlation, but if you followed it too closely, you would miss out on some great talent.

Anecdotally, it seems like MD/PhD programs in general pull from the highest level universities, but each usually has a few spots each year that come from much smaller schools. I’m sure part of it is that they have crazy scores; but another part of it has to be that the retention rate for MD/PhD students isn’t great, so if you can find a student who’s incredible driven and can succeed from a smaller school with fewer resources, you have to like their chances once they get more opportunities.

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by GhettoBear04 on May 27, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

No surprise to see Scalia defending the “meritocracy.”

But acknowledging privilege makes the world much more complex and problematic…

by VM on May 27, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with the second part

But the problem is we’re talking about first jobs, where you can’t do much but go on the resume. I’m not sure what you mean by “explain those efforts.” Is that referring to an interview? If so, that can be even less illuminating than a school name on a piece of paper.

And I’m also not sure what you mean by “it doesn’t accurately measure their capacity to learn.”

Why doesn’t it? Even if they go to better schools with better preparation, they’ve already shown the ability to learn. I’m just not sure why a lucky draw in terms of parents should be a negative.

It seems like you’re assuming that if you put anyone in a privileged situation, they’d turn out with a super high GPA and stellar SAT, and I don’t think that’s true at all.

Also, for what it’s worth, Scalia was not especially a child of privilege himself. His dad was a professor, but if I remember correctly, he went to public schools.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You went the opposite way with my intent.

I’m not suggesting you penalize students who were lucky enough to be in privileged situations, just that in my experience, the lack of privilege (and the benefits of going to schools in high income areas) is treated harsher than is necessary.

I know that my high school treated SAT preparation with greater importance than other schools in the area. We also had many fewer distractions in our learning environment that kids in other schools did not, so we were able to spend a greater proportion of time studying. I’m furthermore suggesting that good schools hire better teachers (because of their capacity to pay more) and that this is overlooked a great deal of the time.

“Explain those efforts” was more in reference to general communication abilities than an interview specifically, but I do think those skills can shine through in interviews.

by jwiscarson on May 27, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I would agree with you

Except for a few things:

For one, elite schools do take underprivileged students all the time.

More importantly, it just seems to ask too much of an admissions committee to look at low GPA/SAT and then use some privilege calculus to show that, ah yes, in a better situation this person would have gotten X.

So if your actual point is that we should strive for overall improvement in schools, I absolutely agree. But looking beyond the numbers seems exceptionally difficult both for colleges and entry-level employers.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Affirmative Action does take care of some of this, although it’s an imperfect system in and of itself.

The tests themselves are also problematic in my opinion, as is how we weight performance as being based around these sorts of one-shot ordeals rather than a student’s entire body of work.

by jwiscarson on May 27, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

One-shot ordeals have the advantage of being standardized, whereas the body can be all over the place.

by brettgardner on May 27, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true.

I guess you’d have to have some sort of national secondary-education and college-education rating agency to standardize academic records.

by jwiscarson on May 27, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Outliers talked about this a bit.

Having 3 bad teachers in a row basically kills almost any chance a student has of being successful, though I forget what measure they used to look at ‘success’.

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by GhettoBear04 on May 27, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the point is that you aren't doing something with your degree

then sure. If you’re attempting to work in creative writing it would be best to have as well respected of a program as possible. Obviously if you’re applying for a sales job an Ivy League diploma vs U of H is superior.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m sure there are specialties where the quality of your program is scrutinized. With writing, it really doesn’t matter – who’s gonna hire you, and to do what?

As UNTJosh pointed out, the CW degree won’t get you anywhere. You have to get there with your writing (and some luck).

I mean, there just aren’t many creative writing “jobs” – with the exception of teaching writing. And you can’t even do that, generally, unless you’re a fairly successful writer.

I’ve taught writing via a small non-profit to some high school kids, but it’s unlikely that a college would hire me for a CW teaching gig unless I had some respected published works. So in that sense I’ll agree with Josh – it won’t get you anywhere.

But you can always write…

by VM on May 27, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you can definitely always write.

Don’t need a Creative Writing degree to do so though. If yopu find one good luck, but I never expect to find anything with a history degree myself.

by Josh Lile on May 27, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Creative writing programs

I’ve never even looked at a ranking of undergrad creative writing. I don’t know that I’d put that much stock in one, anyway. Teaching creative writing is a nebulous thing. In my mind, the two primary ingredients are the quality of the other writers in your workshops and the quality of the professor. I don’t know how well you could rank those two things, especially on the undergraduate level.

I think I’d put a bit more stock in rankings of Creative Writing MFA programs.

Anyway, every “successful” writer takes a different path. I know there are plenty that go the MFA route and it works out for ’em. A friend and former classmate of mine just sold his first novel for a pretty big sum after doing his MFA at Minnesota (his novel was his thesis).

But I lean more in the Cormac direction. He once said, “teaching writing is a hustle.”

That being said, I might consider going the MFA route someday if I think I’m stagnating or in need of high level feedback. But for now I make a good income when I choose to work and have plenty of time to write. The main obstacle is the discipline to actually do it, rather than wasting away my days online…

by VM on May 27, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teaching writing

is most definitely a hustle. No matter how talented you are as a writer, you cannot teach other’s to write in your exact style. The only real thing you can do to improve a person’s writing is to convince them to write in their own voice and their own style.

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by Arlington Stadium Legend on May 28, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can teach cratftmanship, though

and that is the most important thing to teach.

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by t ball on May 28, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, learning the foundation is important, but past that there's not really a lot that can be taught.

Once you get yourself a strong base it’s all pretty much up to you.

There’s not really a whole lot more anyone can teach you, imo.

Talent is always a plus, but it is in NO way necessary.

Writing is more about discipline than it is skill.

You just need to write, write, write… and then write some more.

Oh, and maybe don’t get addicted to LSB.

I’m guessing if I could total up the hours I’ve wasted here when I should’ve been pickin’ up my hustle, I’m pretty sure my penis would explode.

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by thedirkatron on May 29, 2010 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

teaching writing

I’m working on a PhD in English Studies with a concentration in Creative Writing (poetry) at Illinois State University, which is essentially a teaching school (it’s in Normal, IL…normal school, eh?). So a decent chunk of my dissertation will be about pedagogy in my field.

In the teaching of creative writing, there seems to be more debates on assessment of the writing than what/how to teach. Because it’s such a subjective thing, people do it so many ways it would be ridiculous to argue about. What is important in teaching writing is to open students’ minds to new possibilities and to get them to recognize and then develop their own style. The teaching of craft goes on at the undergrad level in intro classes, typically, so in grad school it’s all about pushing students. It’s more feedback and workshopping than standard instruction.

It’s like being a track coach. Sure, you can run on your own and probably do just as well if you pushed yourself hard enough, but having a coach (or teacher) has its benefits, not least of which being opportunities. It’s hard to get into a college meet if you’re not part of the team, and it’s hard getting published without learning how to be part of the larger community in your genre of writing.

Having gotten my MFA, it definitely does not feel like a waste. It completely made me into the writer I am today, and it wasn’t through direct instruction. It was my own interaction with everything I was exposed to in the courses I took. Either way, MFA or not, the writer does all of the heavy lifting. But the teacher can be a useful guide.

by naropean on May 29, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

You’re paying for access to their alumni networks. Also, I think I read that one of the larger Wall St firms will take graduates from a couple of the Ivy League school no matter what their major was. That was kind of surprising to me, but I guess it makes sense that if a school can teach kids how to think, then the employer can teach them the prerequisite knowledge easily enough.

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by GhettoBear04 on May 28, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Define "aren't doing shit"

I’ve never had trouble getting a job, though many of my jobs paid poorly. But they were lifestyle choices.

I’ve yet to earn a sizable income via creative writing, but that’s to be expected. Someday, perhaps.

by VM on May 27, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bachelor degree in Finance from Trinity University

and a Master’s Degree in Health Administration from WashU in St Louis

I want to go back to school now and forever

by nortorious on May 27, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

BA Economics from UT

Chased $$$ in the job market instead of grad school. Currently work in high tech.

by The_Franchise on May 27, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

How in the hell did this get 683 comments?

by Adam J. Morris on May 27, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I believe some of it.

50 percent with a bachelors seems reasonable. I think the people who’ve commented on their post-graduate work are telling the truth, actually, so what I said really didn’t make sense in the context of Adam J. Morris, Esq.’s question.

The poll for post graduate degrees just seem a bit high.

by Black Francis on May 27, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The poll has 320 votes...

I guess I’ve never realized this place has so many participants.

by lost in space on May 27, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

you don't think that 12%

of the people here at a PhD, JD, or MD?

Or is it the 22% Masters? Cause that may be a tad higher than expected. But there are a lot of weird Masters programs out there.

One guess with the Masters – some people in the middle of PhD programs said they have one, since if they were to drop out they’d get one.

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by JBImaknee on May 28, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

34 percent....

…of respondents claimed to have completed post-graduate work. That figure is more than three times the national average and seems a bit high to me. I wouldn’t doubt the real number of people around here who have advanced degrees is high compared to the rest of the nation, but 34%?

by Black Francis on May 29, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

34% does seem high

But I guess the numbers of PhDs and MDs were realistically low. And we all know that this is one of the first places most of us would come if we were in sudden, dire need of a lawyer.

I think that people who sit around on computers all day able to frequent LSB will be more likely to be sitting in offices with their MBAs or Masters of English with no job than be some guy working construction with a high school degree. Because people without college degrees tend not to have jobs that give them leisurely access to the internet all day.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 29, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought of that

But there are plenty of people who come here after work, whatever they do for a living. And I just don’t think what you described could cover the gap. Some people are undoubtedly embellishing.

by Black Francis on May 29, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

This is exactly a workforce survery conducted by HR from matter of record. I suspect there is a pretty significant % just silent.

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by Ed Coffin on May 29, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

48 hours without a game will do that.

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by Aqua on May 27, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

My first official post on here

Bachelor’s in psychology. Currently halfway through MBA.

by Orsake17 on May 27, 2010 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome.

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by Aqua on May 27, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't posted in a while...

…but I’ll jump in. BBA from University of New Mexico and currently working on the MBA in Finance.

by Schrute Farms on May 27, 2010 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Just finished my PhD in Molecular Biology from UT

and am burnt out. Currently trying to decide whether I want to keep doing research or not.

by MikeEl on May 28, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Mike!!

I had no idea.

Also crazy I considered such a path.

by Mike E on May 28, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

What are your degrees in Mike E?

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by RangersSD on May 28, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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by RangersSD on May 28, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh

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by thedirkatron on May 28, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greatest line ever.

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by jonthefon on May 29, 2010 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

MBA

Consulting. Because if you’re not part of the solution, there’s a lot of money to be made in prolonging the problem.

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by TomLovesHideki on May 28, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

what do you specialize in?

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by laxtonto on May 28, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK...

All of you guys that are UNT student for this coming fall or this su,,er post here. We might need to try and get a UNT LSB bar group going

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 28, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

?

I think you are mistaken

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on May 28, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Count me in

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by Conjunction on May 28, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word.

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by Ryin A on May 28, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're like 35... You on the Tommy Callahan plan, or what's the deal?

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by thedirkatron on May 28, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

no, I screwed around in college while playing ball the first go through (94-00, was on the TC plan back then for sure), had something like 180 hours and no degree. Finally went back to school to get my bachelors like 3 or 4 years ago, got it and then went straight to grad school.

Bonding is fun.

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by Ryin A on May 29, 2010 5:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget to mix in a writing class...

:P

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by Rodney on May 29, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finishing up

Bachelors in Accounting and IS at Virginia Tech

by dhughes9 on May 30, 2010 12:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Bachelors of Science in Latin American History

Nobody in the counselor’s office ever told me, though, that you can’t do shit with a BS in Latin American History

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on May 30, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't know if you are single

But that’s a leg up on marrying a Cubanita from a wealthy expatriate family.

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by Ed Coffin on May 30, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

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by WestTxAg06 on May 31, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably because the Latin American History department would be pretty upset about it if they'd done it.

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by Aqua on May 30, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably because the Latin American History department would be pretty upset about it if they'd done it.

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by Aqua on May 30, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did you think you could do

with it?

And why is it a BS instead of a BA? When did History get folded into Science instead of Arts? Did they finally figure out that most BA degrees aren’t that marketable?

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by DJCahill on May 31, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just finished getting my associates degree while playing baseball.

I really want to major in history and also maybe major in geology. Really random I know but, i would love to hear your guys suggestions on those two majors including getting a masters in history. I would love to be a college professor one day.

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by coltron34 on May 30, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

For now you'll have to settle for being the board's worst "tron".

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Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems harsh.

There might be a “tron” you have yet to meet.

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by Aqua on May 30, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You. Just. Blew. My. Mind.

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 31, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah there's bound to be a

VoltronWhatever at some point.

And I imagine they would really blow.

by MikeEl on May 31, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Says you! I guess we will have to have an epic battle. It will be like LSB's version of Transformers

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by coltron34 on May 31, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's no doubt you've already lost that battle.

You and whatever other ’Trons might be out there are fighting for second place.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 31, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you want to get a real job go with geology

if you want to teach, go with history, though even finding a teaching job there at the college level would be a long time coming.

by MikeEl on May 31, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Geology or geophysics

would seem to be a safer career move. Lots of 10 dollar an hour history majors who couldn’t get teaching jobs.

Each history prof has 20-30 history students, and only one of them is getting that profs job when he retires. Its just not a growth business.

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by DJCahill on May 31, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll start...

0.

I worked my ass off, full-time, all through college. I couldn’t justify taking out student loans and paying for them 10 or 15 years down the road when I knew my little history degree wasn’t going to pay off when it came time to find a career.

Of course, I’ve only got one BA. I’m sure many here who have much more schooling than myself also have the debt that comes along with it, or at least did for some years.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 31, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just took out my first loan

Not a big one, $1,000. All subsidized.
I’m a senior now, and devoting time to internships is a lot more important than making $8 an hour at the library. I’ll probably take out a larger loan at the start of the next semester, and while the job market for media is absolute shit, I live frugally enough to where I can probably pay it back fairly quickly.

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by Conjunction on May 31, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

None

They didn’t have “student loans” back then. Scholarships were relatively more abundant, but for most it was work or bail out.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on May 31, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was also

cheaper back then. UT and A&M were around 2500 a semester all inclusive (Tuition, Dorm, Board, Books, Sports pass etc.) back in the early 80s. You could make most of the money needed in the summer especially if you got an internship with a company.

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by DJCahill on Jun 1, 2010 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

After transfer to ISU, I needed to pay $36 per credit hour per trimester, year round. Selling Fords part time in July-August produced money for tuition and fees. and some books could be rented. This was in the 50’s. One August I sold 8 new cars, 14 used cars, and a truck. That was two years’ woth of school expense.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jun 1, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plenty.

I was a slacker in HS so didn’t get offered financial aid going in to college, and gambled on the engineering job market being good enough to justify taking out lots of loans instead of working during the school year. And it seems to be working, though of course now I wish I’d worked part-time instead of taking out some of the loans so I’d have smaller monthly payments. But I don’t know if I’d do it any differently money-wise if I was starting over (though I would have less debt just from graduating much more quickly due to not changing majors a couple of times).

by Closure GT on Jun 1, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely think

Engineering degrees are in the column of generally paying for themselves.

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by DJCahill on Jun 1, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eight!

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 2, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

My dad was a disabled vet

As I understand it, he was working below decks on a Coast Guard vessel and was injured (head trauma) due to something in the ship’s construction that didn’t meet regulations. The head injury gave him epilepsy — and this was in the late 60s or so, before seizure medication really did anything measurable. The epilepsy was so bad that he couldn’t hold down a full-time job for decades afterward because he couldn’t even get a driver’s license.

Anyway, this allowed me to get through college mostly because of the GI Bill. I almost made it through college with $0 of debt, but the government lost my FAFSA application going into my senior year of college. By the time they realized it was their mistake and told us to resubmit it (they wouldn’t let us submit it previously for some reason beyond my understanding), all the grant money was gone, and I was a full month into the semester, so there wasn’t a whole lot of recourse. I ended up just taking out a bunch of federal loans to get me through the last year of school, and graduated with about $9600 of debt.

by jwiscarson on Jun 3, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bachelor's of Journalism with a minor in Economics.

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by ghtd36 on Jun 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

MA English lit

just don’t ask me about fucking Proust.

by Alan Smithee on Jun 2, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, and

I was a CW major starting out but I found the people in the program(students and faculty) to be unbearable. English lit isn’t the most useful degree in the world for someone who doesn’t want to teach, but at least I didn’t have to take classes with the CW people. It was brutal.

by Alan Smithee on Jun 2, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

BS in Chemistry, BA in history, minor in AIS

working on the MD.

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by FirebatM3 on Jun 6, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

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