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The second place Rangers seek to avoid the sweep against Minnesota this afternoon.  Then there's a day off on Memorial Day.

I hate off days on Memorial Day anyway.  It would be even worse if we have a full day off, on a holiday, having just fallen out of first place, having been swept by the Minnesota Twins, and in the midst of a four game losing streak.

Jeff Wilson's game story talks about how C.J. Wilson was great for 5 2/3 innings, before allowing a two run homer in the 6th and walking two of the first three batters in the 7th, both after getting up 1-2 in the count.

T.R. Sullivan's game story has Wilson and David Murphy each accepting blame for the big inning, and Ron Washington defending the decision to send Julio Borbon home on a one out shallow fly ball to right field that resulted in an inning-ending double play. 

Washington's explanation?  "When you're not scoring runs, you have to take a chance."  Which highlights the bigger problem with this team right now...that they aren't scoring runs.

However, when you've got the 3-4-5 hitters coming up, two runners in scoring position, and the fly ball that ends up ending the inning is in shallow right, I'm not so sure that that's a chance worth taking.  If you have Matt Treanor and Julio Borbon coming up next...sure.  But Ian Kinsler, Vlad Guerrero and Josh Hamilton?  Probably not.

Sullivan's notes also has a rather bizarre discussion of the utility infield situation:

The Rangers don't want to lose Andres Blanco or Joaquin Arias, but manager Ron Washington hasn't been able to find them playing time lately.

In the meantime, while sitting with two utility infielders on the bench, the Rangers are short one outfielder while Nelson Cruz is limited because of a torn left hamstring muscle. Cruz was out of the lineup for the second straight day while still available for pinch-hitting duties.

Cruz, who pinch-hit in Friday's game, said he is "better" and is experiencing only minimal soreness. He won't be in the lineup on Sunday but the Rangers are hoping that he can be used as a designated hitter during the three-game series with the White Sox that starts on Tuesday in Chicago.

Cruz pinch-hit for Julio Borbon in the seventh inning on Friday and grounded out. If he had reached base, pitcher Rich Harden would have pinch-ran for him. When the inning was over, Washington had to put designated hitter Vladimir Guerrero in right field and lose his designated hitter.

He was left with two utility infielders on the bench. The Rangers don't want to call an extra outfielder from Triple-A because they would have to expose either Blanco or Arias to outright waivers before they can be sent to the Minor Leagues.

"If we let either one of them go right now, we'd lose them," Washington said. "I need Blanco and I need Arias."

Blanco, going into Saturday, has not played in 10 straight games while Arias has appeared in just three of 11 games since coming off the disabled list. Washington said there are no plans to get Blanco in the lineup anytime soon. The Rangers are in a stretch where they have three days off in an eight-day period and Washington doesn't see any of his infielders needing a day off.

"I'm not going to give [Ian Kinsler and Elvis Andrus] a day off so Andres can play," Washington said. "We're trying to win ballgames. We've got to go with the best we've got."

I'm not sure how any Ranger fan doesn't read that and end up banging his head on the table.  Washington needs both Blanco and Arias, but neither of them are playing right now and they aren't going to play anytime soon.  And the Rangers need a backup outfielder, but can't add one because they might lose Blanco or Arias.

This is veering into the realm of the absurd. 

Meanwhile, Craig Gentry hasn't played the past two days in Oklahoma, even though he's apparently not hurt.  Read into that what you will.

The only thing I can figure is that the Rangers don't want to give up Joaquin Arias for nothing -- he has no place on this team, but they think he has value, and they aren't willing to let him go without getting at least close to the value they think he has.  And if that means, effectively, playing with a 24 man roster, the Rangers are willing to do that.

Jeff Wilson's notes mention that Cruz will hopefully return in the Rangers' series next week against Chicago, although he'll be limited to DH duties, meaning the outfield will continue to be stretched thin.  But hey, at least we have two utility infielders that never play!

Wilson has a Q&A with Jon Daniels up at the S-T website.

Tim Cowlishaw suggests that Vladimir Guerrero is the A.L. MVP this year.

The Economist has a story up on the ongoing Rangers sale and bankruptcy drama.

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Blanco/Arias Situation

That is the craziest, most illogical thing I’ve ever heard. I’m a fan of Jon Daniels and Nolan Ryan but why are they so reluctant to make a move here?

by Black Francis on May 30, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Concur...

I don’t know what JD is thinking here. Who cares what Wash thinks. JD needs to step in and do what’s best for the team. If Arias is exposed, and lost, who cares.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cause he's a piece of the Oswalt trade

So they’d rather lose him that way then throwing in someone else and lose Arias as well.

by Mike E on May 30, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why does it matter if you give up Blanco or Arias in that situation?

With their similar skills sets isn’t it mostly a Wash anyways?

by Heebs on May 30, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't the Rangers actually need Blanco

because he can field positions Arias can’t?

by other_shoe on May 30, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Arias is pretty much limited to 2B (and apparently, now, 1B).

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

But he has value!!!

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have MaxRam at 1B than Otis Nixon's father

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by RangersSD on May 30, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

It veered into the absurd quite awhile ago. I don’t know why this organization is so fucking obsessed with Joaquin fucking Arias when they have Esteban German and Gregorio Petit safely stashed in AAA for infield depth.

It’s absolutely astonishing that they’re hamstringing their own roster so he can take up space on the 40 man.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 30, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think its pretty clear

they aren’t that high on German or Petit.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's still not an excuse for hamstringing your roster for Joaquin Arias.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 30, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying it does

But if they feel they have no depth in minors in the IF spot, talking about having German and Petit around won’t make a difference vs. any other organizational filler that is taking those spots.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is...

…if they “feel” that they can’t afford to lose Arias because German and Petit are too much of a drop off, and are willing to basically play short a roster spot so they have Arias around in case there’s an injury to an infielder and they need him to fill in as a UIF while Blanco plays every day, then there’s a more fundamental problem with the front office.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they are planning on it for long

Cruz’s hamstring probably just has pushed them into making a decision earlier than they thought.

The scheduling right now doesn’t help much either. If we didn’t have all these off days right now, Blanco and Arias would be used more. It looks like they’ll also have only 3 off days until the AS Break and Kinsler’s ankle still being a bit questionable. But Cruz’s injury doesn’t allow you to basically play a man short right nowjust to be prepared for the possibility of needing those 2 a few weeks from now.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what?

You’re talking about your AAA insurance for your UIF.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

They don't have to be...

they’re backup utility IFers.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

In a different

thread I was blaming Daniels for this cluster, and wondering if Washington doesn’t phone him saying something like WTF. But reading that TR piece it appears it’s Wash’s call. OY! Just when I want to give the guy benefit of the doubt, you know, because, “players play hard for him”. This one just defies common sense. I’m about out on you, Ronnie.

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on May 30, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Wash should have no say in that move. None.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

Wash should have no say in that any move. None.

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 30, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Washington

What he says makes absolutely no sense at all, but you still have to blame the front office for not stepping in.

by Black Francis on May 30, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Read to me like he's peddling that company kool-aid like it's his job... which it is.

What’s he supposed to say here?

“If we let either one of them go right now, we’d lose them,” Washington said. "I need Blanco and I need Arias. But dear God I don’t need both of ‘em around here just fuckin’ spare’n it up. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK!!!??? I’ve got 3.5 OF’ers, and three full ones shouldn’t really be hitting vs lefties, but instead of giving me someone to help with that problem, I get two fucking suckass utility infielders. I hate them both. Probably gonna murder one of ’em later on tonight. No telling which one. They suck equally. HATE HATE HATE!!! "

Fun aside, this is straight out of the Managerial section of the Crash Davis Big Book of Baseball Cliches.

Managers are always gonna support their guys.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

believe me

wash is not the one making the call on this absurd move

he may have a little say, but he is not the deciding factor.

with that said, wash’s opinion should matter about as much as my opinion.

by Elvis4Prez on May 30, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Managers have a different amount of power than you think.

Which is to say… Hooray for stating things!

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually managers have about as much power as I think

I have infinite cosmic power.

But in reality, managers do have the ability to make a call on moves like this. One prime example of that case is when Ron Gardenhire basically pushed Tony Batista off the team and Nick Punto into the starting line-up in 2008. Punto was really nothing more than a utility infielder at the time but Gardenhire liked him (and T-Bat was underperforming). It was all Gardenhire on that one.

I think people seem to understate the authority of a manager on personnel decisions. It isn’t everything but to think that they have no say in the call is absurd in itself.

by Heebs on May 30, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, I just wanted to make an unfunny joke about how just stating something does not a good argument make.

And… mission accomplished!

My joke wasn’t amusing (like, at all), and you fleshed out your thoughts quite well.

Plus I once got to third-and-a-half base with an actual non-drugged human girl, so, yah, I think it’s safe to say I’m cool.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

ultimately they get paid for results, and if the manager isn’t going to his boss demanding the resources needed to achieve those results then by inference he’s saying he’s on board with what he’s got. And in reading RW’s comments in that article, that seems to be what he’s saying. Absurd as that may be.

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on May 30, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

What the manager says to the GM about the current roster and what he believes he needs is not necessarily the same as what the manager says to the press about the same subjects.

by mgb5 on May 30, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And as I told you in the other thread

Washington doing that would be ridiculous

by Mike E on May 30, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is no way

roster construction doesn’t come down on the GM, even if he does take input from the manager.

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by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think its time to accept that this team isnt all that good

The only reason we are even competitive is that our division blows.

Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!

by RA Dickey on May 30, 2010 10:34 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Its a good team

But probably only a .500 or slightly better team in a good division. Luckily for us, we don’t play in a good division and only have to beat a team that is overachieving like we are but with less talent.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed re potential of offense

but you can’t live with 2 Black Holes.

Our offense is somehow significantly worse than last year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

3 black holes

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on May 30, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak is not hopeless

and there are reasons to be encouraged. We can play nursemaid with him but not our CF and C.

Smoak needs to be here but also used when in places he can be most successful, which means Max (or somebody) needs to be starting against LH pitching for a while. There’s no shame in that.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

We Get It

Davis bad regardless of results
Smoak good regardless of results

by Heebs on May 30, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I see Smoak, I see a lot of upside

and I don’t see a hitter that’s drowning in front of our eyes and killing the team.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

smoak

the thing that stands out to me is his plate coverage. he can drive pitches 3 inches off the outside corner. can’t say the same with Davis. having said that, i’m ready to see davis up here again.

by SteveP on May 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Davis is currently hitting .292/.346/.442

Right now, our best hope for 1B production is to stick with Smoak and let Davis continue working on whatever he’s doing in the minors.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shoulda Halladay's him... I hate the way he stands at the plate. So stiff and awkward... I know I shouldn't be trying to make judgements based on my own suckass hitting coach skills, but...

I don’t see him ever being a seccusful big league hitter using that stance.

He’s like fucking Frankenstein’s Monster up there.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at his LD% relative to his bipa and I find it hard to think Smoak is really gonna continue to be a "black hole".

He’s a rookie and therefor undependable, but I find it maddening people are souring on him already.

We’re jerkin’ like 14 year old’s who just found out how to bypass the parental controls on their PC.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

If This Thing is gonna do anything in October

they can’t afford to “nursemaid” anyone. I’m not saying that our 9 hitter has to OPS 950 or anything, but each component of the lineup should be contributing SOMETHING other than automatic outs.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on May 30, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big Bob...

We played nursemaid with Tiny E last year and we’ve hit the lottery. Some players are worthy..

Smoak is not Chris Davis 2009. He’s struggled but he’s not drowning in front of our eyes.

It’s ongoing and always assessed but Smoak deserves more rope than he’s been given to date.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking you meant "nursemaid"

as willilng to put up with a complete lack of production while we wait to see if they’ll eventually get it.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on May 30, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You play nursemaid with Smoak until he starts drowning (Chris Davis, early June 2009)

or loses his plate discipline/confidence.

For the next 2 weeks, I don’t let him hit v LH starters and see what that does for his confidence.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, jeez.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

What?

I love Smoak and think he will be a player some day, but right now he is a sucking black hole, just like Borbon and Treanor

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by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has been so far... but it's almost all on his extreme bad luck.

He’s hitting .171 / .285 / .315 ; .272 wOBA so far.

There’s no way you can dress that pig up so that it’d be pretty enough to fuck in public.

But if we’re talking about going forward… there’s a lot of reason for optomism on Smoak, imo.

He’s got a 24% LD rate, and a .189 bipa, which is low even when you factor in his frustratingly high iffb%, and despite all his struggles, he hasn’t fallen into the hack trap and tried to force things, as evidenced by his more-than-solid 13% bb rate.

His struggles vs. LHP’s gives some pause, as do some ugly swings and misses vs. good breaking pitches… but those are the kinds of things you’re gonna get with rookies sometimes, imo.

I think it’s way too early to state Smoak is a black hole.

But Tricer likes being the recently downsized man’s Big Steve, so I’m not even gonna argue that one with him anymore.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last week or two

it appears to me that Smoak has changed his approach. I don’t have his LD% by week, but I’d bet its plunging. I think the slow start is getting in his head.

I still think longterm he is gonna be a stud, but it wouldn’t bother me in the least if they signed a FA and sent him down. It also wouldn’t bother me if they found a RH 1B to platoon with him. I’d rather see him being successful in the majors playing 2/3 or so of the games than continue to tank.

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by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well if he really is trending down like that, then that's troubling.

Cause if he’s really beginning to press by changing his approach, that could result in lingering problems.

Please let’s not have our brightest slugging prospect turn into a hacker cause our roster doesn’t give us any way to throw him a lifeboat.

Fuck, fuck, fuck.

Thinking about this possibility makes my penis burn with fear and also herpes.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's pretty obvious that is what has happened, plus the fact that word got around the league that he has big time trouble with the soft stuff

I guess dirk’s been so busy searching for hilarious new veins in his baby punting and hobo raping comedic gold mine that he hasn’t noticed.

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by tricer on May 30, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's some of that

But there’s still some BABIP flukiness killing him right now even with the league making adjustments to him.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Supposing he really is begining to press and that it's causing him to abandon his patient approach... You think we should be worried about the long term impact?

God knows we don’t want his struggles to result in the Mischievous Monkey of Hacktasia worming his way into Smoak’s man-brain and causing long term damage to his approach.

We can’t afford to lose Smoak as a long term cog in this machine we’ve almost got up and running.

We really need him to provide us with a cheap source of patient, high-OBP power from the 1b position if we’re gonna live the dream of the 5-6 year window of contention.

And god damn it I want that fucking dream.

I want it real bad.

I’d steal 3 elephants from a mean and slutty forest-witch to get a window like that.

Oh, how I want it…

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

If thats the case, then you'd have to do something to make sure you don't ruin him completely

I just don’t think thats the case right now.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, even your attempts at insults are dumb.

Judging from how terrible you are, I think it’s pretty clear you’ve got AIDS.

Remind me not to use the toilet after you.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you believe fangraphs and MLB data

His LD% has not dropped in the last couple of weeks, instead, it has gone up by about 1% (it’s 24.4% now), the problem is that at the same time, his popup rate increased by about 7%, which are of course automatic outs.

His BABIP of LDs is .571, compared to roughly .700 on average
His BABIP of Fly balls is .135, compared to roughly .170 on average
His BABIP of ground balls is .065, compared to about .190 on average

The low GB BABIP can be partially rationalized by his slow footspeed, but even the hurt feelings of Bengie Molina had full-season GB BABIPs anywhere between .158-.220 over the course of a season, so you would expect Smoak to have GB BABIP at least near .160, even if he is slow. He has definitely been unlucky.

As for his approach, he started swinging at more pitches outside of the strike zone in the last couple of weeks, but not alarmingly so. Even now, he is slightly above league average in plate discipline. He is also making better contact than league average on both pitches inside and outside the strike zone. From small sample size, the pitches he has struggled the most with the the curveball, followed by the fastball and then the changeup.

by Telegraph on May 30, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Woo Woo Woo

Hooray for statistical analysis over the eye test.

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by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe in my eye test.

He hits the ball really really hard right at people quite frequently.
That is the biggest problem he needs to fix.
He needs to start aiming those balls into the alleys and over the walls in order to be major-league quality.

Michael Young, our Savior, can aim to right field so easily. Why can’t Smoak do the same with the alleys?

I see him hit it hard and I just assume it’s going right at the outfielders since he’s unable to aim his shots.

The fielders have him figured out, and so it’s time to try someone else out.

by Trickman on May 30, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suck at detecting sarcasm, but this is it, right?

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I thought I was being pretty obvious with it.

by Trickman on May 30, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, yah... I was 99% on it, but after reading some Fangraph comments then "debating" an issue with Tricer, I could also see someone believing what you just wrote.

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by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured this was sarcasm (MY the savior gave it away)

but I am bored, and you are out of luck. So chart time!

Here is the spray chart for Smoak so far this year (imaginary hat tip to Trip Somers and his pitch f/x tool

and here it is for Michael Young

Smoak hit a bunch of balls right at the CF, and most of those were turned into outs, his odds were a lot better when he hits them elsewhere. Also, he is hitting them in a horrible zone – too hard, but not hard enough. In that sense, the eye test is right – he has hit a bunch of balls directly at people. The question though, is how well he can control where his hits are going. Will he be able to avoid hitting them directly to center field if he makes some adjustments. That I don’t know.

by Telegraph on May 30, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 hard line drive outs yesterday, right?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right you are

And the out to CF…sigh. Just a few feet either way…

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct on the sarcasm call.

I don’t think it’s a matter of him “not hitting it hard enough” because 2 of the line drive out’s I’ve seen in person were 12 foot ropes that travelled from his bat deep to center or deep to right — problem was, they were like a perfect throw from home to the right or center fielders.

If a ball makes it that far, never being more than 12 feet off the ground, you can’t really hit it harder — but at a lower angle it might be a single or at a higher angle a double/HR.

He’s hitting the ball on the nose and driving it. We’ll see the results when whatever god/goddess of luck he pissed off forgives him.

by Trickman on May 30, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will not accept that.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

This team is good.

They an extremely unintelligent team however, and have not, in my opinion, played anywhere near the level they are capable of playing at yet this season because of their low baseball IQ’s.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 30, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

We knew this before the year.

The only reason the Rangers were probably the most likely team to win the division because of the division. None of this is news.

by philkid3 on May 30, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had to read that TR blurb a couple of times

Its been a while since TR was the one making so much sense.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Feliz

Anybody else feel like bringing in Feliz in the 6th might not have been a bad idea? I had that thought last night when the bases got loaded. Get your best pitcher, and strikeout pitcher for that matter, in that situation. Not really surprised they didn’t go that route.

by Heebs on May 30, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

That's why Feliz doesn't need to be the closer

Not saying he’s done a bad job, but I think he’s best utilized in the Fireman role. Now that he’s The Closer, he can only pitch the 9th when we have a 1-3 run lead, which is absolutely insane.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on May 30, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Name one team that does that.

I mean a real-life team, not a video game.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, cool.

I don’t watch the Rays, so I didn’t know that. Otherwise, this is not really a valid option outside of fanboy suggestion. Almost all teams set very clearly defined bullpen roles.

(and not being rude or anything)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year, Feliz came in whenever there was a fire to be put out

Not because Wash labeled him the “Bullpen Ace” or whatever. It wasn’t until he was named the closer that he wasn’t put in in just about every high-leverage situation before the 9th inning.

You’re right in saying almost every team has defined roles. Typically, the most proven 1 inning reliever is the closer, next on the food chain is the 8th inning guy. Some teams have a 7th inning guy, but many don’t. You have a couple of long men and 1 or 2 OOGY’s of either handedness. Typically, if there is a sticky situation in the 6th, there’s one guy you trot out there to get it done. Usually it’s the 4th or 5th guy on the totem pole. Last year for us, it was Feliz. This year it’s O’Day or Ray (gotta save Oliver for the lefties, because God forbid we have more than one lefty in the pen). Why shouldn’t your best guy be that guy?

Where is it written that all managers have to follow the same crappy bullpen format?

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on May 30, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's our Ronnie!

It’s really more like playing with a 23 man roster because the last few weeks both Mathis and Moscoco were good for about an outing a week, no wonder the bullpen is wasted. Although a lot of that has to do with both of them sucking.

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That and a lot of really close games

This offense, unfortunately, is NEVER blowing anyone out. We need those blowout games sprinkled in to save our short men

by Heebs on May 30, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

YUP

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ray

is certainly on AJM’s shit list. Now he obviously sucked last night, but I thought he had at least been pitching better lately.

My question is why wasn’t O’Day or Fx2 brought in rather than Ray? If you say you need a K then you should have gone with Frankie, right? However getting a ground ball double play from O’Day and allowing one run to score there wouldn’t have been the end of the world. Most teams aren’t going to get out of a bases loaded, nobody out, situation without allowing a run to score. Ray needs to be used in less high-leverage situations. Let guys like Oliver, O’Day, Fx2, and of course Feliz handle the game changing moments.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't understand where this...

…“Chris Ray hasn’t been that bad” meme is coming from.

He is supposed to be a power arm out of the bullpen, and he’s striking out less than 5 guys per 9, has the same number of Ks as walks, and is giving up a bunch of fly balls.

He’s been terrible.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

His overall #'s...

(especially before last night) say he hasn’t been terrible.

Has he been very good. No. But saying he has been terrible is an exaggeration.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

His K/9 is 4.76

His BB/9 is…4.76.

He’s throwing some good stuff, but his control is terrible right now. He needs to go down to OKC for a bit and get his control back.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is why Ray is so frustrating to watch

it looks like he has good stuff, but he sucks anyway.

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by t ball on May 31, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is, uh anbody wondering

where the F the GM is these days?

Not only is the roster a mess, the offense is now 36 runs behind where they were 50 games in last year not to mention that the Oakland A’s….yes, those Oakland A’s I warned everybody about are now in first place.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Nope, this is JD's Baby all the way.

It’s time to be bold and time to take away some of Cocaine Ron’s toys.

Rich Harden as a pinch-runner!?!??!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shut the hell up...

about this being JD’s baby. I didn’t see you posting shit like that when the Rangers where up 4 games on the A’s? We’re all aware that JD is the one who has built this team. We don’t need you taking pleasure in the Rangers failures and kicking them when they’re down.

I swear you love to see this team lose just to plug away at your dumb-ass agenda in the morning threads. You’re truly a miserable human being.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

This was JD's Baby in the off-season, at 6-9,

at 25-18 and now at 26-23.

I’ve never wavered on that.

Per his performance to date…To early to tell, the season needs to breathe some more but the current situation of the roster is screaming for him to do something.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody besides you and Randy Galloway...

…gives a crap about where the offense is 49 games into this year compared to where it was 49 games into last year.

If you want to compare the offense to last year, compare it to what it did last year.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'm concerned about the offense, Adam. I don't think it has anything to do with the hitting coaches.

If you go back 162 games of This Thing, you’ll see that we’ve scored 748 runs and have a record of 83-79.

Is that significant? Maybe, maybe not but I think that’s where we are right now and that record is not going to win the AL West.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

be concerned about the Rangers offense and then keep talking about how great the A’s are and that they are going to win the West.

Try taking a whiff of that offense grandpa.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

RG talked about hitting coaches in his column last week and how they were so much better with RISP last year than this year.

You also mentioned in your article this morning of This Thing’s biggest problems is that they’re not scoring enough runs…and I strongly agree with you.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

But yes, you are clearly the only one who is concerned about the offense

No one else gives a damn but you.

You are the lone voice of sanity pointing out that the offense is struggling.

Congratulations.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

losing Joaquin Arias - why would that matter

Stevie German can do anything that Arias could do, and he can be parked in AAA until he’s actually needed.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on May 30, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

heh

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Offense...

It’s time to bring up Salty and slide Josh to CF for a couple weeks and roll with Hamilton/Cruz/Murph/Vlad as the OF/DH rotation.

by Topgun22 on May 30, 2010 10:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Salty

anymore reports on his, um, throwing issues? Time to fill up that OKC shuttle with gas.

by SteveP on May 30, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even if it is fine now

I think you want to give him more than a week or two to make sure that this problem is behind him. He needs to be down for at least a month with no problems throwing back to the catcher.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

pitcher

not catcher like I wrote at the end there.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the back spasms...

Need to make sure he’s fully recovered from that.

by Trickman on May 30, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

it was interesting what Newberg mentioned in his last report. Possibly giving Davis a shot at catcher. Hmm, who knows? I liked the old days, when Davis was raking and we were filled to the brim with all star catching prospects.

…..sigh

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on May 30, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell

I’m not opposed to it. If Smoak starts to to hit and god forbid Salty or Max go down, I don’t see why not. I don’t think he has that much trade value at this point. Might as well give him some value withing the organization.

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on May 30, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Newberg should credit Perryman

imo

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

not

to my knowledge. Unless he did some in high school. Doubt it though.

Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules

by AndrusImpersonator on May 30, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

this may sound stupid

but i think he might have played catcher growing up some but before HS.

"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan

by red3biggs on May 30, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

One thought on the current trade market

Is it possible teams are busy with the draft, and just don’t want to bother with UIF trade conversations?

I know the priority is the ML team, just a shot in the dark.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on May 30, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

When the Rangers suddenly transder into the AL East.

Oh wait, that’s not going to happen.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on May 30, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is amusing how...

…a half-game back of an uninspiring Oakland team, with the pre-season favorites several games back and having last their best player, so many people appear ready to give up on the season.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Because being in a pennant race this season would certainly hinder the team’s chances of being a Yankee style dynasty.

Let’s deal Vlad, C.J., Frankie, Kinsler, Hamilton, and Feldman, and shoot for dominating in 2013.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

no

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well that wouldn't make sense

Everybody you just mentioned are all younger and under longer control than Vlad.

Also Vlad is the best player at his position so far this year, unlike everybody else you also mentioned on that list.

by SaltyGoesYard on May 30, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is nice to think about what you could get but it's wayyyy too early.

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Younger and Cheper

Hell half of my statement was not even about just getting to the playoffs.

What are we gonna do when we get there and we have the Yankees with a steel toe’d kodiak work boot ready to jam up our ass.

by SaltyGoesYard on May 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go out there and play

You’re going to have a hard time convincing me that getting to the playoffs and losing to the Yanks or whomever else is worse than not getting to the playoffs.

Rangers fans are such a bunch of crybabies.

I can’t imagine any other fanbase in baseball that would say, after going a decade without sniffing the playoffs, that it is a waste of time to go to the playoffs because the Rangers would be underdogs once they got there.

But that’s what Ranger fans seem to believe.

Go talk to Cardinals fans about what can happen with an 83 win team in the playoffs.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Dallas area fans

trained by the dallas area media to overreact to wins and losses. Its like with the Cowboys where they are going to the Superbowl after every win and worthless after every loss.

This is a long season, and no team is gonna win the AL west wire to wire, and the winning team ain’t gonna be on par with the ’27 Yankees

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well I was not really crying

But maybe we have different view points on success. I in no way DON’T want to make the playoffs.

Making the playoffs coupled with our new ownership could be just the boost we need to start spending to keep and aquire talent.

But when we do get to the playoffs I want to win. I would rather have 1 World Series win and 19 losing seasons, then 20 straight seasons of playoffs and no world series.

by SaltyGoesYard on May 30, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is actually not the case
I would rather have 1 World Series win and 19 losing seasons, then 20 straight seasons of playoffs and no world series.

People say this, but they don’t really mean it. The Marlins have won the WS twice in 14 years. They seem to be pretty bad the rest of the time. Their attendance is brutal year in/year out.

Other teams that are perennially competitive without winning the big one fare much better. Winning is great until the next season starts. Losing awful stings for a long time. I am grateful that as bad as the Rangers have been, they haven’t lost more than 92 games since I’ve really followed them closely. Mediocre sucks, awful drives fans away forever.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 30, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right now

I’d settle for only 1 WS win and 19 crappy years if I knew for a fact there would be at least one WS I get to watch them win in my lifetime.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, ask the Mavericks

10 straight years of playoff basketball and all anybody every says is, “We don’t want to be the Dallas Mavericks of [their given sport].”

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

*ever says

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I person has said that.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 30, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, 1 person said that exact sentence.

But that’s what the Mavs are known for around the country, and by the way, you ever listen to sports talk radio in Dallas?

The Mavs are just chokers that can’t close the deal.

To bring this back to the topic at hand, yes, I would switch places with the Royals. 1 title and 25 years of nothing is better than being the only team in the league to never win a playoff series.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on May 30, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would switch with them so you can point back in history to that one title and say "man things were great back then?"

Because that’s ridiculous.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on May 30, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dumb people say that.

Only five teams have won NBA titles in the last ten years. The Mavs have done better than any of the teams not on that, yet somehow (in spite of this? because of this?) the Mavs have been selected by the idiot brigade to bear the torch for all the teams that haven’t won the NBA championship.

For comparison, 8 of the last 10 World Series have been won by different teams, and no team has won more than two of them. For being the only league without a salary cap, MLB has done pretty well championship-spreading-wise.

All that to say: recent history suggests that it’s easier for a traditional have-not to win the World Series than to win the NBA finals. So being willing to take another 25 years of guaranteed suck just for one World Series sounds like crazy talk to me.

by Closure GT on May 30, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you wouldn't do that

then you’re the crazy one.

Screw mediocrity.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on May 30, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

The Mavericks did win a championship a few years back.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

then maybe we'll have a Rockies like streak

winning pretty much a month worth of games consecutively heh

by Mike E on May 30, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike E's got this!!

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Gentry is travelling the the Rangers

As insurance?

Is that why he isn’t playing in OKC?

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on May 30, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't see what sense that would make

They wouldn’t be able to use him til the next game anyways..and it’s not that much of a fly. Unless we had a double header coming up.

by Mike E on May 30, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Cruz woke up this morning and his hamstring felt much worse

The club could just put him on the DL and have Gentry on the roster for tonight’s game.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on May 30, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right

They have done this before, and it does make some sense…they don’t want to risk an injury in OKC, and he’s close by if/when they need him.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You were correct, Toddler.

TR just confirmed that Gentry is at Target Field today.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't link the paid advertisement for BMFF Sr, AJM

BMFF Sr beginning a new chapter in his business life

Oh the poor thing, my empathy overfloweth…

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

That is sooooo beneath me.

/Rangers100

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Hodson.

He said “Tom Hicks is an exemplary owner” back in 2005 and was defending him last year as well.

Interesting and very forgiving dynamic between Hicks and 95% of the NMLR board, including The Newberg & Big Ed.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

no u

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of folks

have allowed Tom Hicks to make big bets with their money. Some have paid off, some haven’t. However, Hicks always gets paid, even when he is running companies into the ground.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

You see today's love letter to Hicks,

Kevin Sherrington calling him “the greatest owner in the history of the team” (last January) and the act of great admiration in print performed by noneother than Evan Grant and you can’t help but think about what was going on between Belo, the DMN and Tom Hicks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hicks

Honestly, the only owners of the Rangers that don’t get a big fat F were the Bush/Rose group- the rest were either incompetent meddlers, total skinflints, or a mixture of both.

Not to defend Hicks, but the first couple years of his tenure weren’t that bad, so those inclined to overlook what’s happened since may see him as a “good” owner by comparison to Chiles, Corbett, and Short.

I’m not one of those people, though- especially not after what he’s done to Liverpool. I’d love nothing more than to see him lose everything and wind up doing a few years in Club Fed for financial malfeasance.

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-- Chuck Morgan

by RCCook on May 30, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trammell Crow...

I remember seeing the son, Howard. in the men bars (J.R.’s) back in the day, fall down drunk most of the time. He always had a nice collection of fresh talent though.

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

This amuses me to no end.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

for what Mike E??

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

espn Dallas-bleh
After manager Ron Washington used Holland in the eighth inning of Wednesday’s loss to Kansas City, the lefty will be coming in on just three days’ rest, though it has been seven days since his last start.

Um, not really.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

He pitched an inning Wed.

Thur/Fri/Sat… yah, 3 days, right?

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

That reeks of

flat out misinformation. He threw 23 pitches. What, maybe 15 warmup pitches. Not sure what they throw in side sessions but this is essentially all that was. Too much time between competitive play is not ideal either. Wednesday should not be a factor, but if DH struggles, it’s been teed up.

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on May 30, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just about to post this same thing

He really didn’t do anything but maybe throw a few more high intensity pitches than he would have in a side session. That shouldn’t derail his start today and definitely isn’t an excuse for a poor start today.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh, not really... it says only threw one inning + mentions the extra days off from starting... Don't see how it reeks of misinformation at all.

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree that we

could read it differently. I focused on Rodney’s bolded section above, and truth be told it fed into my unreasonable hyper-vigilant distrust of lazy media.

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on May 30, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's just poorly written

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

@ JW

know this board doesn’t typically use the “at” symbol, but his question’s up there a ways,
but,
I’m guessing the GM is at the draft planning table these days. Doesn’t excuse the roster cluster, but it’s not like he’s AWOL or anything.

Year to date runs aren’t particularly relevant in light of season record so far. In fact I tend to be encouraged in the record given that the bottom of the line-up can certainly be expected to contribute at some point.

I’ve got a bigger problem with just flat out inconsistency and inability to execute. Ron likes to talk about taking what the game gives you but I don’t see it happening consistently enough.

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on May 30, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

I would be strongly disapointed in JD if he's paying

more attention to the draft planning process than the team at the major league level…that’s how division titles are lost. This roster is screaming for change and we’re bleeding losses when we should be pulling away with a lead.

Don’t misread…I want JD strongly informed about The Draft.

I loved the boldness of what JD did re Davis/Smoak. More moves like that are needed.

We’ll see about the offense but we’re going to have a difficult time winning much of anything if only score 725 runs.

 

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"if This Thing only scores 725 runs."

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

"screaming for change"

yeah, I think there are multiple elements screaming for change. Or upgrade at least. Reading Daniels quotes on a recent chat and in Wilson interview, I sense he’s expecting some course correction in performance.

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on May 30, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

"screaming for change"

I doubt there are many examples of division winning teams that get sub-replacement level performance from 1/3 of the lineup.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on May 30, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

the ones that have had weak divisions, like the Rangers.

Even the World Series Astros Biggio, Everett and the Pitcher hit better than the Rangers 1B, CF and C are currently doing.

I would certainly be looking for a RH 1B platoon, and try to trade for a CF and C. Unfortunately, I don’t see a lot out there.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's too early for any real talent trades

Which is why the all bitching is completely pointless.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

I suspect we will start seeing some soon. Memorial day tomorrow, and the ASB around the corner. We will certainly see some big trade before the ASB.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just looking around a bit

It seems the Brewers are going to move Corey Hart soon. ZiPS projects a .349 wOBA for the rest of the season, and his power is back after his injury last season. Would he be worth the upgrade/talent in trade? This would put Hammy back in CF, of course, but it could be a viable option.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's Tine....... for mass changes....

1st……Salty needs to be brought up. I think more than just throwing back to the pitcher, Salty is still being punished for the injury situation. As for who is going down, I am sure it would be Max, but I would be open to Treanor leaving as well.

2nd….Boggs needs to be brought up and Arias needs to be DFA’ed. If we lose a fringe 25th man….so be it.

3rd….Sheppers needs to be brought up…..with C.Ray being sent down.

by death of the cool on May 30, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

x
I think more than just throwing back to the pitcher, Salty is still being punished for the injury situation.

This makes zero sense.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually it makes some.

But I don’t think it’s the case with his extended stay there. Was def. a factor initially though.

by Mike E on May 30, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

It was the reason at first, and once Salty started having problems it gave Wash a built in excuse…..those problems seem to be gone.

Salty is by no means a savior with the bat, but we have to try something to get more production of of C.

by death of the cool on May 30, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the organization desperately wants Salty to establish himself as a major league regular

The idea that he’s down there in AAA as punishment for being hurt and not saying anything, while the Rangers are trying to win a division with a couple of guys who aren’t really major league caliber catchers, just doesn’t make any sense.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I think it's almost entirely that the club needs him to have it together

when he comes back. The organization may have had ambitions of teaching him a lesson early on, but that has to have been tabled once the … ahem … throwing condition surfaced.

by other_shoe on May 30, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1/REC!

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, Nolan isn't blameless either

But regardless of what his role is, JD is the one to be held accountable.

For all intents and purposes, Nolan is going to be the active owner of this club. He’s not going anywhere. If he’s steering the team off a cliff, then the GM needs to have the ability to persuade him otherwise. I’m not saying any of this is or isn’t Nolan’s fault, but if Nolan is refusing to fire Wash, then this team needs a GM who is assertive and strong enough to tell Nolan what is what.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on May 30, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Were you saying that when This Thing was 25-18?

I wasn’t .

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

On point 3, I disagree

They are competing and I don’t see any signs that they aren’t fully committed. Yes, Borbon is still up because our other CF options aren’t that good or aren’t healthy. Arias and Blanco doesn’t have much to do with developing anyone, the team just seems to be too worried about what might happen down the road (in this season) instead of about how the roster looks now.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 30, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tigers kicking Braden around and Scherzer is dealing grief. Tigers up on the A's 4-0.

Things are going so well for the Tigers that Gerald Laird is 2 for 2. Apparently the Tigers took Al Kaline’s number (12) out of retirement and gave it to Laird.

I’m serious.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know what the Tiger announcers are talking about

because Al Kaline was number 6 with the Tigers. They were joking about the number being brought out of retiring it with lots of referenes to Kaline…my bad. Cochrane, Kell, Greenberg weren’t number 12 iether and Cobb didn’t have a number.

Scherzer has 11K’s with two outs in the 5th. 9 of the 11K’s were swinging.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scherzer strikes out the side in the 5th...12Ks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on May 30, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Texasrangers.com says the game is at 7pm

Adam mentioned the game was this afternoon.

What time is kickoff?

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 30, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Otis Arias has just arrived at the stadium so it must be soon

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

I am pretty sure it is 7pm on ESPN2

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on May 30, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

It moved back to regular espn

As the Eastern Finals is over.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God

they have finally swept out the trash teams like the Suns and they can get down to real basketball.

"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on May 30, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's up with the catchers?
Since his return from the DL, Suzuki is hitting .200/.291/.240 with a double and seven RBI

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, let's trade for Sizemore!!!
Grady Sizemore (knee) will undergo arthroscopic surgery this week to determine the extent of his injury.

Sizemore will be out 6-8 weeks at the minimum, but if the scope finds a microfracture, it’ll be much longer than that. It’s all bad news for the Indians, but at least it’s some clarity on what was originally called a bone bruise. Hold on to Sizemore until after the scope. If he’s got a microfracture, it may be time to part ways, but if not, he’ll be back in August for the stretch run.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on May 30, 2010 1:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I just don't get it.
Washington’s explanation? “When you’re not scoring runs, you have to take a chance.” Which highlights the bigger problem with this team right now…that they aren’t scoring runs.

Does he really, truly and honestly not understand that giving away outs is part of why they don’t score runs? Really?

by philkid3 on May 30, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

no, no he doesn't

Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked the part in that article where they imply the '09 Rangers had bloated salaries.

Wasn’t our payroll like 25th or some such butt shit?

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I caught that, too.
To pay its bloated salaries, the club had to ask MLB for a $25m loan in 2009.

Second paragraph, early clue that the writer(s) didn’t have a complete grasp of all the details.

by mgb5 on May 30, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, whenever I see an article or piece or whatever on baseball, I also find so many little errors that it makes me doubt anything else I see from that source.

It’s a nice litmus test for me.

Whenever someone points me to a new site or magazine or what have you, the first thing I look for is to see if they have any pieces on baseball in their archives.

If they do (and most do, assuming they’ve been around any real length of time) and I can get through ‘em without having my gentle sensibilities offended, then I feel a lot more comfortable in the level of quality of the source’s other stories.

The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.

by thedirkatron on May 30, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

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